This is also exactly what happened to my 1.6 Xbox. I ordered 5x Panasonic FJ 3300uf 6.3v capacitors to replace the stock Nichicon HM capacitors. According to some forums I discovered while researching suitable replacements, HM caps manufactured between 2001-2004 are known for having high failure rates. I found this video after I had already diagnosed my problem, but I think that as these consoles continue to age, this video will be very useful to a lot of people looking to fix their Xboxes. Maybe they will opt to have a retro video game shop repair them, but at least the knowledge will be out there.
This video helped me diagnose what was wrong with my Xbox which wasn't powering on. Both me and my dad missed those 5 capacitors, until this video made me go back and look much more closely at them! Thank you!
Chances are good the dates on those save files are the result of the owner not bothering to set the clock. The Xbox was released in 2001, but this is a v1.6 board, meaning it was probably manufactured late in the OG Xbox's life cycle around 2004-2005.
Thanks a lot, that worked perfectly for me :) And I can also second the other comment I saw about the Soldering pump. It helped me to clean the holes for the new cap.
I'm pretty sure I have the identical issue with my 1.6. Three of those five capacitors are bulging at the top. Thanks for the video! I'm going to try the fix this weekend!
I'm already in the process of ordering caps for both of my Xbox that have failed caps. They've both (v1.2 and v.14) had the exact same 3x Nichicon caps fail (actually exploded in the v1.2), but somehow the Xbox still function just fine. Though the v1.2 doesn't want to stay turned off (but that's probably the also dead clock capacitor). Note to everyone: To avoid your Xbox having its caps fail, unplug it or switch it off at the powerpoint. That's why my first Xbox is still in perfect working order unlike my second hand ones (including its Thompson drive). Edit: Also, the v1.6 does have a clock capacitor (it's the lone gold one near the IDE connector), it's just of a better quality than the original ones. It could still fail given time. BTW, the Xbox you repaired was a v1.6/1.6b, meaning that its from 2004 at the earliest. The original owner probably didn't bother setting the clock fully (I know that I never did).
Invest in a pair of micro sheers/cutters. Bending the leads back & forth till they break is no bueno, dude! You take the risk of stressing your solder joints otherwise. Other than that, good video. 👍
Thanks for this excellent tutorial, I've just received the caps that i've ordered from the link but sadly the diameter is a lot bigger than the ones installed on my 1.6 motherboard.
I think there is a reason why M$ using these unreliable Nichicon caps. Nichicon HM-series caps has a very low impedance value - around 10mR at 100kHz for 3300uF. I suppose this essential for filtering high frequency noise, that may affect overall system stability. So, I think that swapping these caps to any other with same capacitance and voltage may be not enough. Nichicon PW series used here as replacement also has low impedance value (about 40mR). But other capacitors may have much higher imp.value and may be not suitable as replacement.
the 1.6 clock caps do leak as i've had several that have leaked and are in a worse position as the traces beside it are off the mcpx2 chip(south bridge) also the power cord he refers to was issued for the 1.0 with foxxcon psu as they were pron to failure and were never issued for later console as the issue was addressed correctly
Halo 2 was released in 2004 and yet the saves are from 2001 so the clock would have not been set right. He probably went fairly long periods between powering on so set the clock at random.
Hey, can the eeprom of the original Xbox can be remove? is be cause my Xbox have the light flashing red and you know wend that happend ther someting rwong with the eeprom and I thought it can fix it by replacing it, is ther any better way to fix that problem?
The guy did not play any of those games in 2001, because the revision of that motherboard didn't come out until 2004. He just didn't bother to set the time.
@@retro_vg_repairs3339 My xbox was the version 1.0 So some of the saves did make me curious because some where random dates, so I totally get the point of interest.
Thanks for the video - I am new to all of this so your videos have been super helpful. I think that my Xbox is a v.1.6 and it is not powering up. It looks like I will need to replace the caps as 5 of them have bulging tops but no leakage. The only info on the side of the caps is “105’C HD420”. Doesnt show any other info on the cap. Do you know what capacitors I can get to replace these? Thanks for your help.
Just out of curiosity……. How much would you charge to fix mine? It’s been years since I’ve played it but as of 12/27/2021 I thought to bring it out just to play some Need for Speed. It worked fine but today 29th it powers on but then shuts off. I don’t have time to fix it so I’ll ask you.
Black and X-MEN Legends were not released in 2001. The previous owner properly just had to adjust the clock when he turned on his console after a long time and just hit A i stead of correcting the timer.
I have 1.6 Xbox but the capacitor is not bulged out but I can see traces of fluid coming down from top which is flat perfectly ,as well as the clock capacitor which is of golden color is a little bit bulged than normal ,should I repair both because my Xbox turns off instantly when I turn it on
do anyone can share more about the model no of the capacitor that would support the origin XBOX too ? because there are so many series also name as 3300uf 6.3v, can anyone help? thx
Hey my xbox turns on for a few seconds then shuts off instantly can anyone please help me? I took everything apart and everything looked perfectly fine so im confused
1.6 xbox didn't exist until 2004. The reason he has saves from 11/01 was because he unplugged it long enough for the clock capacitor to drain, and then on next boot up just hit A a bunch to skip past setting the time, so it was set to release date.
Thanks for this! Attempting to fix a Xbox with no power right now. I believed the problem was with the actual power board but I couldn't find blown capacitors or broken traces. My dumbass didn't think of looking on the motherboard. 3 blown and corroded capacitors! Already ordered some on Ebay :)
You do not need to replace 1.6 clock capacitors if you do replace them for some reason then you need to solder a new one or else it won't boot Any older Xboxs you can just snap off the capacitor it'll boot without it
No. Everything from 2003 is a revision 1.4 at maximum which does have the capacitor issues. Yours is likely a 1.3 or 1.4 Only the 1.6 revisions are the versions without issues.
Hey mate i blew the capacitor right at the stair of the board where the power comes in and can’t read the size of it could you tell me what size yours is so I can replace my?
like other people have already noted since the vid came out, the xbox likely moved around, lost its clock while being unplugged, and the new owner didnt care about setting it properly, so it defaults to 2001. Its definitely not an accurate game save date
Hey friend. My Xbox stop to turn on. The capacitor apparently dont have any damage, top is super flat !! How can i test de power supply ? It uses a 1.1 psu version!! Thanks !
George Pucci hey, you can use a replacement power supply from a 1.0 or a 1.1. they are the same. Easiest way to check is to swap it out. You can also use a multimeter to test the voltage on the large motherboard connector. Also check the solder joints on the power plug 1:25
Retro_VG_Repairs the joints are ok ! I need to know how i can “Start” the psu to use a multimeter and test voltages from connectors. Is very hard to find another psu here !!! Thanks !!
@@GeorgePucci Yours (probably) has cracks all along the PSU board. You can fix it by checking if there's any dry solder joints on the board, especially near the power connectors.
You should make another "No power" video for a v1.0 xbox power supply. Our house got hit by lightning and it killed my 1.0 Power Supply. On the bottom of the PS, I could see that the Jumper 15 (J15) component popped and caused a no power situation. I can't figure out what component it is or how to fix it
If you're still interested it looks like a Surface Mount (SMD) Zero Ohm Resistor . I believe you can jump it with a piece of wire , but you might want to do some checking on that .
@@bryanobrien2726 That was the first thing I did and nothing happened. The lightning must've fried more than I thought but I bought another power supply and that fixed it
@@bryanobrien2726 I agree. While looking online for ways to fix it, I found out how to softmod and hardmod them and load them full of games with a larger HDD. So I went from having one retail console to having 5 modded O.G. xbox's including the one I saved lol. I also now have 2 retail Jasper 360s (one is a big block), a retail Corona slim, Trinity slim and an unmoddable Slim E
@@Wilson_Racing Sounds like me . I have 3 OG Xbox's , 1 is softmodded and will hopefully have a bigger HDD this weekend . Just did all the thermal paste on them and replaced all the bad capacitors . And I've got 4 360's , A Falcon , a Corona slim , a Corona E and a Winchester E . The old Xbox's are kind of addictive .
I swapped my bulging caps with these but my xbox just makes a clicking sound when it tries to turn on. Before the fan would at least cycle for a second... what did I do wrong?
Was it working before? Isolate where the clicking is coming from. Put your ear up against the system. If hdd is clicking, it's probably dead. Replacing a HDD is covered on my Xbox common repairs video
@@retro_vg_repairs3339 naw the HDd was not connected I realized what the problem was.. I forgot to clip one of the leads on the bottom side of the board and so one of them was shorting to the grounded shield casing. So the xbox turns on now but theres another problem. If turns off as soo as I plug in the av cord. Like it'll power on and stay on and then I plug in av cord and it turns off after a sec
@@nightrider8398 sounds like another shorting problem. what happens if the av cord is plugged all the way in before you try to turn it on? Do you have other AV cables to test?
@@retro_vg_repairs3339 I have multiple xboxes and I've tried other cables. Those work with the normal xbox's so it's not the cable. I'm suspecting trace corrosion on the board for this broken one but when I looked at it before I didn't see any..
hello can u help me ? i have an v1.2 og xbox with foxlink power supply 220V The main capacitor 400V 180uf is bulging after i replace it with the new one its bulging again and again ,pls help oh yea and theres no sign of burn component everything looks clean
@@dani8902 I mean at this point try to replace the whole PSU. Could be something wrong with the whole Power board. If you have a spare xbox thats the same model, try swapping
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This is also exactly what happened to my 1.6 Xbox. I ordered 5x Panasonic FJ 3300uf 6.3v capacitors to replace the stock Nichicon HM capacitors. According to some forums I discovered while researching suitable replacements, HM caps manufactured between 2001-2004 are known for having high failure rates.
I found this video after I had already diagnosed my problem, but I think that as these consoles continue to age, this video will be very useful to a lot of people looking to fix their Xboxes. Maybe they will opt to have a retro video game shop repair them, but at least the knowledge will be out there.
Denoex thanks for the feedback!
Do I need flux or can the capacitor replacement be done without? I already have the caps.
my xbox was made in 2004 and still works perfectly since day 1
I used some Rubycon capacitors since my Xbox had some Rubycon capacitors that stick look brand new compared to the Nichicon ones I had to replace.
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PANASONIC FJ Capacitors also working on the Xbox ? I am going on hurry to order haha
Good job young man! It's good to see younger people getting into electronics repair.
This video helped me diagnose what was wrong with my Xbox which wasn't powering on. Both me and my dad missed those 5 capacitors, until this video made me go back and look much more closely at them! Thank you!
Great video, thanks man! I love going thru all the old saves as well
Thank you so much, I followed your instructions and I now have power back in the green machine!!!
Glad to see I’m not the only one who checks out the old saves 😂
Looks like I have the same problem. Thank you for including the amazon link. Cheers!
Thanks for making this video. My Xbox was having the same issue not starting up at all. 5 new capacitors later and it started right back up.
Chances are good the dates on those save files are the result of the owner not bothering to set the clock. The Xbox was released in 2001, but this is a v1.6 board, meaning it was probably manufactured late in the OG Xbox's life cycle around 2004-2005.
Yeah I realized that after the video and that bummed me out. Good catch
@@retro_vg_repairs3339 halo 1 was launch not X-Men lol
Ironically these are the exact capacitors that went bad on mine. Thank you for this video!
This is exactly what I needed. Good Video! Thanks!
My caps are even worse. All the ones you replaced have their guts bursting out the top. Good to know this should fix it, thanks!
Thanks a lot, that worked perfectly for me :)
And I can also second the other comment I saw about the Soldering pump. It helped me to clean the holes for the new cap.
After finding this video, I just fixed a 1.6 Xbox with the exact same issue!! Thank you 👍👍👍
I'm pretty sure I have the identical issue with my 1.6. Three of those five capacitors are bulging at the top. Thanks for the video! I'm going to try the fix this weekend!
I'm already in the process of ordering caps for both of my Xbox that have failed caps. They've both (v1.2 and v.14) had the exact same 3x Nichicon caps fail (actually exploded in the v1.2), but somehow the Xbox still function just fine. Though the v1.2 doesn't want to stay turned off (but that's probably the also dead clock capacitor).
Note to everyone: To avoid your Xbox having its caps fail, unplug it or switch it off at the powerpoint. That's why my first Xbox is still in perfect working order unlike my second hand ones (including its Thompson drive).
Edit: Also, the v1.6 does have a clock capacitor (it's the lone gold one near the IDE connector), it's just of a better quality than the original ones. It could still fail given time. BTW, the Xbox you repaired was a v1.6/1.6b, meaning that its from 2004 at the earliest. The original owner probably didn't bother setting the clock fully (I know that I never did).
Invest in a pair of micro sheers/cutters. Bending the leads back & forth till they break is no bueno, dude! You take the risk of stressing your solder joints otherwise. Other than that, good video. 👍
Thanks for this excellent tutorial, I've just received the caps that i've ordered from the link but sadly the diameter is a lot bigger than the ones installed on my 1.6 motherboard.
I think there is a reason why M$ using these unreliable Nichicon caps. Nichicon HM-series caps has a very low impedance value - around 10mR at 100kHz for 3300uF. I suppose this essential for filtering high frequency noise, that may affect overall system stability. So, I think that swapping these caps to any other with same capacitance and voltage may be not enough. Nichicon PW series used here as replacement also has low impedance value (about 40mR). But other capacitors may have much higher imp.value and may be not suitable as replacement.
Awsome video!
the 1.6 clock caps do leak as i've had several that have leaked and are in a worse position as the traces beside it are off the mcpx2 chip(south bridge)
also the power cord he refers to was issued for the 1.0 with foxxcon psu as they were pron to failure and were never issued for later console as the issue was addressed correctly
Halo 2 was released in 2004 and yet the saves are from 2001 so the clock would have not been set right. He probably went fairly long periods between powering on so set the clock at random.
will those caps in the description work on every single cap replaced in that area? and do i need to order diff types?
Excellent, thanks!!
Hey, can the eeprom of the original Xbox can be remove? is be cause my Xbox have the light flashing red and you know wend that happend ther someting rwong with the eeprom and I thought it can fix it by replacing it, is ther any better way to fix that problem?
The guy did not play any of those games in 2001, because the revision of that motherboard didn't come out until 2004. He just didn't bother to set the time.
I did realize that much later , you're right. It's too bad most dates on people's game saves are probably not accurate
@@retro_vg_repairs3339 My xbox was the version 1.0 So some of the saves did make me curious because some where random dates, so I totally get the point of interest.
Thanks for the video - I am new to all of this so your videos have been super helpful. I think that my Xbox is a v.1.6 and it is not powering up. It looks like I will need to replace the caps as 5 of them have bulging tops but no leakage. The only info on the side of the caps is “105’C HD420”. Doesnt show any other info on the cap. Do you know what capacitors I can get to replace these? Thanks for your help.
On closer inspection I found the info! Thanks again.
Another great video. Any chance you can post a link to where you get your capacitors. So I know I’m getting the right ones.
just added link in the description. Cheers
Just out of curiosity……. How much would you charge to fix mine? It’s been years since I’ve played it but as of 12/27/2021 I thought to bring it out just to play some Need for Speed. It worked fine but today 29th it powers on but then shuts off. I don’t have time to fix it so I’ll ask you.
10:10 piece of history right there
How on God's green earth did you remove the solder I have been doing a lot of different techniques nothing worked
Very good! My Xbox original have problems too
Roberto Lucrezia what's wrong with yours? maybe I can fix it
Retro_VG_Repairs I click on the Power Button It turns on the led And turns off twice And on the third It blinks and has no image
Roberto Lucrezia ah that's not a good sign. usually indicates a fatal hardware problem. did you remove the clock capacitor?
Retro_VG_Repairs No
I highly suggest you watch a video about the Xbox clock capacitor, then open yours up to take a look inside.
Black and X-MEN Legends were not released in 2001. The previous owner properly just had to adjust the clock when he turned on his console after a long time and just hit A i stead of correcting the timer.
Yes I realized this after I uploaded it... silly mistake
Bought one off Facebook. Worked for 3 days now all of a sudden it wont power on and I didn’t have a power surge or anything. Dont know what to do
I have 1.6 Xbox but the capacitor is not bulged out but I can see traces of fluid coming down from top which is flat perfectly ,as well as the clock capacitor which is of golden color is a little bit bulged than normal ,should I repair both because my Xbox turns off instantly when I turn it on
Yes if it looks wrong you should replace it.
do anyone can share more about the model no of the capacitor that would support the origin XBOX too ? because there are so many series also name as 3300uf 6.3v, can anyone help? thx
Hey my xbox turns on for a few seconds then shuts off instantly can anyone please help me? I took everything apart and everything looked perfectly fine so im confused
I successfully replaced these and now have power. Problem now is that it freezes during the start up animation
1.6 xbox didn't exist until 2004. The reason he has saves from 11/01 was because he unplugged it long enough for the clock capacitor to drain, and then on next boot up just hit A a bunch to skip past setting the time, so it was set to release date.
Same here with a XBOX from 2004, looks like the nichicon caps are all gone by now...
Hope you fixed it.
Thanks for this! Attempting to fix a Xbox with no power right now. I believed the problem was with the actual power board but I couldn't find blown capacitors or broken traces. My dumbass didn't think of looking on the motherboard. 3 blown and corroded capacitors! Already ordered some on Ebay :)
Update: even with my horrible soldering skills, this managed to bring my Xbox back from the dead!
What tempeture do you have the iron at when removing and replacing the caps?
Usually 500-600
@@retro_vg_repairs3339 Celsius?
300 - 350 Celsius. Somewhere in the middle works best imho, around 330 C
Please tell me the location of the clock capacitor for that exact motherboard I have same
It's the gold one next to the IDE connector.
You do not need to replace 1.6 clock capacitors if you do replace them for some reason then you need to solder a new one or else it won't boot
Any older Xboxs you can just snap off the capacitor it'll boot without it
My XBOX was manufactured on 10/09/2003 this development version of the clock capacitor removed?
Beto BR that's likely
No. Everything from 2003 is a revision 1.4 at maximum which does have the capacitor issues. Yours is likely a 1.3 or 1.4
Only the 1.6 revisions are the versions without issues.
Same model, same capacitors, same issue lol, just got mine fixed
Hey mate i blew the capacitor right at the stair of the board where the power comes in and can’t read the size of it could you tell me what size yours is so I can replace my?
The caps that are electrolytic all have their values written on the side. Try to take good pictures
How does a 1.6 motherboard (~2005) have a 2001 game save?
like other people have already noted since the vid came out, the xbox likely moved around, lost its clock while being unplugged, and the new owner didnt care about setting it properly, so it defaults to 2001. Its definitely not an accurate game save date
Do you recommend this for a person soldering for the first time? It seems fairly harmless.
Yes it's a perfect job for a first timer
I recommend practicing on a dead board before attempting this.
Hey friend. My Xbox stop to turn on. The capacitor apparently dont have any damage, top is super flat !! How can i test de power supply ? It uses a 1.1 psu version!! Thanks !
George Pucci hey, you can use a replacement power supply from a 1.0 or a 1.1. they are the same. Easiest way to check is to swap it out. You can also use a multimeter to test the voltage on the large motherboard connector.
Also check the solder joints on the power plug 1:25
Retro_VG_Repairs the joints are ok ! I need to know how i can “Start” the psu to use a multimeter and test voltages from connectors. Is very hard to find another psu here !!! Thanks !!
@@GeorgePucci Yours (probably) has cracks all along the PSU board. You can fix it by checking if there's any dry solder joints on the board, especially near the power connectors.
Its strange, i fixed it myself but i and still in disbelief that you can fix it by just putting in some fancy cylinders
You should make another "No power" video for a v1.0 xbox power supply. Our house got hit by lightning and it killed my 1.0 Power Supply. On the bottom of the PS, I could see that the Jumper 15 (J15) component popped and caused a no power situation. I can't figure out what component it is or how to fix it
If you're still interested it looks like a Surface Mount (SMD) Zero Ohm Resistor . I believe you can jump it with a piece of wire , but you might want to do some checking on that .
@@bryanobrien2726 That was the first thing I did and nothing happened. The lightning must've fried more than I thought but I bought another power supply and that fixed it
@@Wilson_Racing Good to hear that you got it working again . It was probably a wise choice to just replace the whole power supply .
@@bryanobrien2726 I agree. While looking online for ways to fix it, I found out how to softmod and hardmod them and load them full of games with a larger HDD. So I went from having one retail console to having 5 modded O.G. xbox's including the one I saved lol. I also now have 2 retail Jasper 360s (one is a big block), a retail Corona slim, Trinity slim and an unmoddable Slim E
@@Wilson_Racing Sounds like me . I have 3 OG Xbox's , 1 is softmodded and will hopefully have a bigger HDD this weekend . Just did all the thermal paste on them and replaced all the bad capacitors . And I've got 4 360's , A Falcon , a Corona slim , a Corona E and a Winchester E . The old Xbox's are kind of addictive .
I swapped my bulging caps with these but my xbox just makes a clicking sound when it tries to turn on. Before the fan would at least cycle for a second... what did I do wrong?
Was it working before? Isolate where the clicking is coming from. Put your ear up against the system. If hdd is clicking, it's probably dead. Replacing a HDD is covered on my Xbox common repairs video
@@retro_vg_repairs3339 naw the HDd was not connected I realized what the problem was.. I forgot to clip one of the leads on the bottom side of the board and so one of them was shorting to the grounded shield casing. So the xbox turns on now but theres another problem. If turns off as soo as I plug in the av cord. Like it'll power on and stay on and then I plug in av cord and it turns off after a sec
@@nightrider8398 sounds like another shorting problem. what happens if the av cord is plugged all the way in before you try to turn it on? Do you have other AV cables to test?
@@retro_vg_repairs3339 I have multiple xboxes and I've tried other cables. Those work with the normal xbox's so it's not the cable. I'm suspecting trace corrosion on the board for this broken one but when I looked at it before I didn't see any..
If I plug the av in all the way before I turn it on, it turns on only for a sec and then turns off. Each subsequent turn on becomes shorter.
I have the same problem
it sounds like the traces on the motherboard
hello can u help me ? i have an v1.2 og xbox with foxlink power supply 220V The main capacitor 400V 180uf is bulging after i replace it with the new one its bulging again and again ,pls help
oh yea and theres no sign of burn component everything looks clean
you replaced the cap or the whole PSU?
Just psu main cap & all cap on the mother board
@@dani8902 I mean at this point try to replace the whole PSU. Could be something wrong with the whole Power board. If you have a spare xbox thats the same model, try swapping
@@retro_vg_repairs3339 Hard to find a new V1.2 PSU on market og xbox Is very Rare on My Country :/
Can i replace 6.3v 3300 uf capacitors with 16v 3300 uf replacement? @retro_vg_repairs3339