【HTTYD】→ The Deleted Scene That Could Have Saved the Light Fury's Character 「Fanmade Edit」
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- čas přidán 6. 04. 2023
- While I loved THW and don't have any serious qualms with it... WHY DELETE THIS?! It's only 2 minutes longer than the original scene! C'mon guys, this would have made the Light Fury more endearing and loveable. This deleted scene probably could have lessened the fandom's backlash on this "plain girly girl" a lot of the fandom despises.
Anyway, I figured after doing the baby bird deleted scene this was a logical follow-up. I love the Light Fury regardless of this scene being cut, but imagine the lessened amount of toxicity there would have been. longing sigh
Though I edited the thumbnail, I own nothing, so please don't attack me YT.
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I wish I knew what happened to them in between the end of that scene and when Hiccup & Astrid found them in the Hidden World
I may or may not be debating writing a short story about that, actually. I'm trying to take up some fanfiction writing for HTTYD. Not sure if many would be interested.
@@TheEnvisFury I would be interested
I have dyslexia so I can't read as well, but I'd love if maybe you made a comic of it! So it's not fully just reading.@TheEnvisFury
I like that idea!
I'm fully on board for a comic or a short story of this.
I have decided to gaslight myself into thinking this was actually in the movie and the lightfury isn't just a glittery mass with a single trait called FEMALE
Oh, please don't hate on the LF here. >.> I personally love her design.
That's harsh :(
Don't get me wrong, I love her too! It's just the fact she has barely any personality except for the fact she's toothlesses mate and doesn't like humans @@TheEnvisFury
I completely agree with you. That’s exactly why I made my own AU with a complete redesign of the Light Fury.
Yeah, I looked at the art book and they literally said they were trying to make her look female and non reptilian.
I LOVE how when she sniffs at his man-made tail fin, she looks confused, judgy, and disapproves of it. Then she flies away and has her head tilted in a "I'm better than you" pompous, elegant way.
When Toothless still acts in his usual dumb cheery playful self, THATS how he wins her over! And she actually likes it! You can see how despite him being "weird" she's charmed by him!
She acts like a noble rich person's cat while he's a goofy stray that got a loving home.
I LOVE how this storyboard/animatic gave her more personality. She tries to act all high and sophisticated but that breaks down when he encourages her more goofy side! Then they play together! It's so insanely cute and it makes their relationship feel so much more genuine and real, rather than the plot forcing them to like each other "just cuz".
It's so sad that the movie really went "This character is fierce, brave, smart, playful, a bit goofy, curious, gentle, sympathetic... and this one is a girl!"
What's wrong with it being a girl?
Nothing, but its a problem when your a main character and that's all there is too you.
@@spider-soniczilla2989 wdym?
@@EmilijaDunja So I'll explain it like this, your character can be a girl or they can just be a girl.
A well written women like any character has character traits you can point out and remember, a "girl" character has 1 trait, they are woman and that is the character.
The "girl" character is often used for love interests to the more fleshed out male lead in movies.
@@EmilijaDunja Nothing, but it's bad when that's all there is. What kind of girl is she? If she can be replaced by a cardboard cutout that's not a good character. And what she did was just sit there and look pretty for most of the movie, an object for Toothless to lust over (the only moment of her own agency was her deciding to save Hiccup, but that's only at the very end). That's the sadness of this deleted scene that shows more of Light Fury's personality - she's playful, talented flier, a bit curious, forgiving and not taking herself too seriously (not being angry at all after being accidentally slapped by Toothless wing), just in general shows more bonding between the two when she reciprocates his advances in all these subtle ways (not pushing him away anymore).
Yeah the entire movie it felt like the Light Fury was "just tolerating" Toothless. A thorough scene like this would've added some dimension to their relationship
Damn right.
She made Toothless look like a beg
I feel like the conversation regarding this scene went a little like:
“And she has personality, they interact with each other in a way that helps to understand the light fury’s character more, she seems stuck up, but she’s really playful and goofy on the inside.”
“Nah let’s make her only personality trait ‘FEMALE’ 😍”
THEYRE SO EXPRESSIVE WHEN THEYRE 2D
yes
3D models have limitations due to how the model can warp.
Their getting better, post 2018 DreamWork movies have a better render engine and model set which allows for much more expression then the pre-2018 films. Trolls World Tour had this engine used on it, which is why it was more technically advanced over Trolls and its the best example right now.
@@AngelEmfrbl yeah ofc, 3D has limitations but to see the difference is a wowie!
For someone who thought how Toothless just dropped hiccup so quickly. This small but cute scene would have really shown the chemistry that the two had and it would have gave the girl more character. They really had such a missed opportunity for the last movie.
This is so much more dynamic than what was actually in the movie. It was so much more playful and gave her a real personality and character other than "woman and love interest." It would've been a really good parallel to hiccup and astrid with the goofy man and stoic cold woman dynamic
Why r you obsessed with that dynamic? We already saw it enough times and it would make it a copy of other films. If anything at least it’s a unique character
@firefree5282 I don't know exactly what you mean. Maybe I'm taking it wrong but even though it is a heavily used trope, it would've still made her more than a love interest. The way she's portrayed in the movies is just an overly feminized version of toothless. She should've had a personality just like the rest of the dragons did. In my opinion she was just very mary sue and there was a lot of lost potential there is all
It would be better if they cut out all those stupid and uncomfortable jokes and moments about Hiccup's friend's crush into Hiccup's mom and left this scene
Fun fact: in the original books, Snotlout is Hiccup's cousin. Which makes it really fuckin weird that he likes Valka
The director explicitly said he wanted Toothless to be a dog, and for LF to just be "sexy female". You can thank him for ruining the movie.
Seems about right
Funny, because toothless was animated after cat-like poses and behavior
Well.... man you people and everyone who don't like the lighfury are harsh like, try making ur own movie see how hard it is, some respect for these pour creaitos. HAVE RESPECT
@@user-bk2gx8lo9q the light fury has a sexy model.
@@user-bk2gx8lo9q I like the movie, but I also understood their review. If you want a good income you gotta produce a good movie that people have high expectations for.
Idk if it wouldve saved her character, but they should have still kept this because it makes their relationship more expanded on.
It's adorable to see the ways they interact and flirt, idk why they didnt use it
Maybe budget?
Why would they take that out? They're properly courting like an animal would! They size each other up, show off skills, and play. She sees he's a good match for her and then shows she's receptive towards him. I would've loved to see this animated, It's far better than a silly little mating dance.
Bonding scenes are like, the heart of httyd, which makes me sad this scene isn't in the movie at all. they actually seem so cute together here too.
This would have made it so much better, actually giving her some personality besides "I'm pretty and don't like people"
there are a few singular moments that i think we really needed. the light furry was always very prim and snooty, and toothless was always enamored with her. but we never got to see the light furry fall for toothless
That should NEVER have been deleteddd
It was fan made
@@caramelcopcat It says "Property of Dreamworks, don't duplicate" at the top lmao, pretty sure it's not fan-made
@@caramelcopcat its official, Im dumb.
Don't think it would have saved her character, but it would definitely have improved it significantly and would make the relationship seem more genuine because, as is, she comes off as manipulative.
Completely agree, especially after seeing that one scene from the short film as well as this movie's ending.
Could you elaborate on that? What exactly did she do that was manipulation?
They deleted ALL the good scenes and I'm mad about it.
This woulf have been awersome, especially since we don't have a flight scene with Hiccup in this movie for some reason (unlike the other 2), this could have been an acceptable replacement.
Oh look, a deleted scene that could've made the third movie a bit more bearable than the state it is in now
YOURE TELLING ME THAT THEY HAD A WALL-E AND EVA MOMENT READY TO GO AND THEY DIDNT PUT IT IN?!?!!?
The only reason I think people didn't like the Light Fury was because Toothless suddenly wanted to leave with her. Like, after the years of being so loyal to Hiccup, he was ready to leave in a min for her.
If they had shown a bit more connection like in this. And hi trying to maybe integrate her with *his* life first. Then Hiccup seeing she wasn't going to be comfortable or happy, and the threat they were under, that is when he tells Toothless to go and it's ok.
Her character itself is fine, it's how they introduced her and didn't show this playful side of her, is what ruined her.
Agreed. I haven't seen the movie in a while and don't remember how it exactly went down, but I felt like both Hiccup and Toothless were too ready to leave each other.
"Toothless suddenly wanted to leave with her". Ever heard of this little thing called "animal instincts"?
I never thought her character was that bad, but seeing how many times they could've twirled together, it would've made the movie much more memorable!
WE COULD HAVE HAD DRAGON FLIRTING
W E CO U LD H A VE HA D
D R A G O N
F L I R T I N G
I know ;-;
For me, the light fury didn’t feel like a real breathing character. They just felt like an obstacle to teach toothless about their abilities and lessons. And that sucks! I want to like this character, tell they feel something. And I know this scene wouldn’t it do a lot of justice, but MAN is it all that I need, please she feels like a card-board cut out-
That’s because they cared more about her being a plot device rather than her own character.
i love that the last part of the scene where they interlock feet and spiral downwards mimics the mating ritual of bald eagles, who interlock talons and spiral downwards towards the ground from a high height, basically a game of chicken to see if a potential mate is worthy
In the final version she feels so robotic, like every interaction with Toothless is to test him to see if he’s “fit” kinda like birds and animals in the wild. I mean... makes sense ofc, theyre animals, but with the lengths they’ve gone thru to humanize Toothless with his demeanor, the light fury really could have used some of the same treatment and this deleted scene represents that so well. She just wasn’t likable enough in the film to warrant breaking up one of the most iconic, special duos in animated film history!
But she lived wild amongst dragons and toothless was more humanised being around the village. So it makes sense she had less of a personality and more of an 'animal instinct'
@@tsundereyoongi3869even if that makes sense in universe it doesnt really make her a more likable character. the irl reason toothless behaves like he does is because hes a central character so he does have to emote more for the audience to sympathize/relate with him. if they wanted to have people to be nearly as attached to the light fury as they are with toothless they should have given her more moments in the story to showcase that she has a unique personality other than “doesnt like humans” and “is interested in toothless”
@@tsundereyoongi3869 i guess but that’s not an excuse for poor characterization. Toothless had more personality than her when he was wild
The grabbing each others tails reminds me of bald eagle’s courtship dance where they lock talons and drop from the sky only to break away at the last minute
They actually do grab talons and drop down from the sky in a wheel into THW in the official scene, it's quite cute.
This bonding scene would have been beautiful!
The contrast between Hiccup and Toothless, were Toothless bonded with Hiccup by imitating a drawing which could be seen as an animal trying to have human aspects!
And then this one, where Toothless is reconnecting with his animal side/dragon's instincts by doing silly things with the Lightfury
I would’ve been happier with the decision to break up toothless and hiccup if they added this in the movie. Gave her actual personality.
Why is it that the deleted scenes are always some of the best
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i absolutely hate that this was deleted. i hated the light fury she had no personality and was clearly just the hot untamed girl dragon, this would have changed everything and made her so real. what a shame corporate greed said no
the movie didn't sit right. it needed more meaningful and silly pure stuff like this scene. just exploring things naturally
this wouldve made the connection to each other be more felt by the audience, we werent shown any bonding between them and they just kinda tossed the relationship at us
The biting the tail/spinning thing was so cute!! They really should've kept that, it would've been much more interesting for them to explore their relationship as feral and tamed animals than for them to do the typical male vs female characterization they always do. LF being curious of Toothless' prosthetic is not only adorable, but realistic!
AND THIS SOUNDTRACK WAS NEVER IN THE MOVIE ? IM CRYING
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this lol 😂 like why tf is El Dorado Music in this??
Why are the comments so fresh ?? So aint the only one who JUST got this at their recommendations
HELP SAME 😭😭
The same
Same
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I've been wondering why the comments have exploded too. XD
I found an in-universe explanation they could have used. The lightfuries are primarily water hunters but (insert reason for fast flying capability).The missing scales and rounder features to reduce drag and vortexes (the thing planes create at their wingtips that costs efficiency) underwater, the sparkly skin because it attracts fish. Something like that. (Still would've liked another nightfury better tho)
I agree, I myself made a few lightfury ocs with a few small tweeks, like I gave them colorful scales(usaully pastels) explaining it with it helps them both blend in underwater with coral and that it help attract mates, gave them sharper teeth used for catching slippery fish underwater, for me the lightfuries design felt bland and uncreative, I love sparkles and girly stuff just as much as the next girl, but sometimes you gotta draw the line with eye candy and a good character
Literally would have taken the writers five seconds to come up with this, but they couldn’t even be bothered.
Honestly my problem with her is that her introduction was so fast and sudden, and there was no build up to her, they could have made another movie of in which grimmel could have hinted at her apearance in a new movie toward the end, maybe even hiding her shadow in a scene, but it seems like dreamworks just wanted to get the triology over with, i mean look at nine realms, it looks like to me that they just gave up but wanted a good ending
This added SO much to the Light Fury’s personality! They truly shot themselves in the foot by cutting this! 🤦♀️
I don't think it would have made her more of a character necessarily, but it would have definitely done so much more than what we got. Here, she at least seems to have more of a personality and this 5 minutes gives us more insight into their bonding and what her personality is actually like, since it was quite rushed in the movie. This would have been so much more than what we got.
I just realized that they changed her noises in the final product. LET HER SOUND LIKE A DRAGON DAMN IT!
i've seen no one else point this out but at 4:47 they probably based that scene off of what eagles do as a courtship ritual, bald eagles lock talons with their mate in flight and spiral down towards the ground! they also sometimes do this when fighting over territory, sometimes never letting go and falling to their deaths but that part is not as important. just a small fun fact!
That is so cool
I imagine that this was mostly cut due to time restraints. Which is a shame because it is so beautifully storyboarded.
This makes so much sense! Eagles will do a similar free fall of love where they lock talons and dive.
I know the message of this movie was supposed to be “make the world a good enough place for dragons” but Toothless abandoning his half-a-decade long friendship with Hiccup for a girl dragon he’s known for a day and half made me think dragons didn’t deserve Berk , not the other way around.
It's not that much the mate but more the fact that it has become dangerous for dragons to live outside, in two years they fought Drago and Grimmel, both tried to use dragons as weapons to become more powerful. It's also very clear in the third movie that toothless is almost like a dog and not like a friend anymore, he plays fetch with his prostetic leg and acts more human than before.
Berk is pretty much the only good place for dragons and it's a good thing that they go live in the hidden world, even if it's frustrating to see them separating.
I can feel you but i believe Toothless didn’t just give up five years of friendship for a girl. Berk is a utopia and hiccup don’t know if Berk will still be friendly with dragons. They don’t know how the dragon hunters will harm a dragon or attack this island. Human research on dragons has become too deep and it may be dangerous. That dragons might become pets, slaves, or even food to throw can only leave his kind to withdraw from the cruel history of humans.
Personally it would've made more sense for Toothless to leave because the Dragon's were viewing him as Alpha, and he needed to take responsibility for that position. and Unfortunatly with Hiccup that wasn't possible. The Hidden World is not a place for people- but instead they made it all about the Light Fury, which is infuriating and feels disingenious to the build up across both the 1st and 2nd movies.
Linking everything to "go, be with her" at the end of the movie is just tiring imo.
this is what hhtyd was always meant to be, cute dragons flying around with beautiful scenery and meaningful character building
pretty much every important scene in the first movie, where characters really developed, or relationships were explored more, was in the sky
hiccup and toothless only really got each other after they flew together, same with hiccup and astrid, and every other character with their dragons; it’s like, the whole point
this would have given more insight to the light fury that I would have loveddd its like an extrovert and introvert and gives more to her than ohh la la captured edgy light fury. It shows why they are so compatible, they both have that playful nature to them but toothless is way more outgoing with it
this should have definitely have been in the movie, this scene just shows more of the bond between them instead of them just being instantly in love because its a male and female. It also gives the light fury some actual personality other than just being a wild dragon that doesnt trust humans and only acts as a love interest for toothless
There were so many ways they could have done this movie well.
It’s such a disappointment to see the way it turned out.
It’s also INFURIATING bc I fucking LOVE the light fury’s design but it’s insufferable bc she was just designed to be a “female dragon”
Light fury deserved more time to get to know her character
SO YOURE TELLING ME WE COULDVE GOTTEN FIRST FLIGHT TOOTHLESS AND HIS GF EDITION AND THEY DELETED IT???? WHOS IDEA WAS TO DELETE THIS?!?! WHO HAS SINGLE HANDEDLY RIPPED AWAY A PIECE OF ABSOLUTE GOLD RIGHT FROM THE HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON FRANCHISE. im. So fucking mad about this is. This is the worst thing to happen to HTTYD right after the 9 realms
I think it wouldn't have saved the character, but would have shown in more detail why they love each other. Their movements in the dance, the touching of their wings, the communication without words. That should have been added to the movie about dragons!
I like the movie, but I need more dragons!)))
HTTYD 2 feels more like the 3rd movie because it showed more of that "hidden world / sanctuary" inside a massive ice spire, but the actual 3rd movie felt rushed i couldn't even remember what the nightfury's place looked like, and the vikings leaving their homeland made the story ending incomplete instead 😭
i still fully believe that the movie would have just been so much better if the lightfury had been a female night fury. she could still serve the same purpose but it would make more sense that his actual species could help toothless figure out how to turn invisible instead of a sub species
I wish they added this it shows a lot more of her personality
Right at the end when they lock feet and spiral down I think this is probably a reference to the “death spiral” eagles do when they find a mate… I wish they kept that and the rest of the scene in 😭😭😭
I feel like the big problem with the Light Fury isn't even necessarily how little personality she has, but just the sheer lack of screentime she gets. She's in the film for what, 10, 15 minutes? No matter how much personality she was given in those scenes, it cannot compensate for simple lack of time. She could be an incredibly endearing and charismatic character with an interesting and meaningful relationship with Toothless, and it still wouldn't really work because a relationship with 15 minutes of screentime is never going to feel more important than one with more than ten times as much screentime that we've been following almost a decade. What this film really needed was to drop scenes and subplots to give more time to not just the Light Fury as a character, but her relationship with Toothless.
Yeah that's my main ick for her. And how Toothless just seems to ditch Hiccup, for her. Even when she nearly kills him like twice where in the past movies he was insanely protective of him.
Just felt like everything they went through was for nothing :/
@@T_E_G It's like they made him prioritize a potential romantic relationship over a platonic one (which I think is a bad message) he could have at the very LEAST been angry, but no, he's still puppy dog mode. This is supposed to be the same toothless that fought an ALPHA for his best friend of SIX years and in response to a woman he knew for a minute for trying to kill his best friend he just nervously smiled at her.
I just wish she was more expanded on, and Toothless felt more emotions toward her than head over heels.
Hiccup literally told toothless to go with her, and he came back a few years later.@@T_E_G
The way the lightfury just bounced onto toothless
honestly i hate the lightfury, for the whole franchise the entire message was basically that hiccup and toothless need to stay together, that they're family and all that- LF shows up, hates all of toothlesses past and convinces him to leave home 💀 idk if its natural, she has no personality and has literal hearts on her head - this whole movie was just a cash grab with a desire to sell merch of a 'pretty girl dragon'
YEP. Exactly how I feel it's so stupid, AND in Gift of the Night Fury, Hiccup builds a tail and Toothless actually smashes it. He had NO desire to leave before pretty girl dragon.
I think it was supposed to be about growing up and eventually having to part ways with your bestfriend... but the issue is that the bond between a human and an animal is far more co-dependent than "bestfriends" are... the alternative is... well maybe it was a metaphor for accepting the death of your pet, nature taking away from you and you just... having to accept it.
Oml bro stop hating...i honestly hate you
Weirdly enough I tolerated the light fury FAR more than I tolerated toothless. She at least had no understanding of their relationship, and she had reasons to dislike humans. Toothless on the other hand was a slobbery mess the whole time and it's really hard to believe he would leave hiccup forever so quickly like that, even if hiccup wanted the dragons to leave. There was no proper set up for it.
Also if all female dragons of that kind are white and all males are black, how are theri kids mixed black and white with spots? If Dragons are intelligent how come she didn't warn him of the trap she was a part of?
Gosh, that scene made me actually like the two of them together
this wouldve saved her character (if we can even call it that) so weelll!!
shes playfull, witty and a girl that knows what she wants in a man. when she denied to hold his wing and later on did, seeing how toothless could become invisible, my heeaarrtttt!!
NOT TO MENTION THE FALLING PART!!!
oh my god thats amazing, it resembles the courtship baldeagles perform to find the best mate. its like a challenge, they hook tallons and plunge down from great heights. the later the mate frees themselves to save their skin, the better the relationship or something like that
I thought that was them fighting over a female but uh oh well?
This would make more sense why Toothless wanted to be with her...
Just all these showed a whole falling in love scene, or is it just me?
She seemed genuine when she chuckled out of joy when toothless did the thing and all... idk, is it just me?
I thought so too, it just gave a bit more emotion to her. I think she's fine in the movie, but this just would have been extra points. XD
Really I just made this thinking some people who thought she lacked something could see what she was fully supposed to be like, and hopefully lessen the hatred for the poor girl. And I want to see this in HTTYD's original animation style. Woulda been SO pretty to see these things, just think of the colors!
okay but like its so disappointing they deleted this scene. the light fury was actually given a personality rathr than just being a mate for toothless
Sadly DreamWorks didn't do this scene...it's fanmade
@@kikirinhaa ah even worse 💀 even the community knows better
@@thehangedzai I don't understand, they did such a great job with puss in boots, but neglected such and amazing movie with great potential
Think you guys are forgetting that Toothless is only so fleshed out and full of personality because he isn't overly feral and rather human in expressiveness. The lightfury is more of a traditional feral that lacks all the silliness of Toothless and that is protrayed by her being more cold and aggressive. Y'all seem to forget that she was kept in a cage for an unspecified amount of time, didn't have good human interaction to imitate and become friendly off of like Toothless did, and also ISN'T TOOTHLESS. You all act like she should have become jolly and lively as if she and Toothless didn't come from two completely different backgrounds. May I remind you that Toothless's first experience with a human doing anything to him was a scrawny teen who ends up his best friend, meanwhile, again, the lightfury was clearly abused and was not domesticated. You guys trying to compare Toothless to the Lightfury is like comparing a domestic dog to a wolf. One clearly has more personality than the other, while the other will obviously behave like an animal with not much personality. The lightfury suddenly becoming all sweet and extra playful with Toothless would honestly by logical standards just make 0 sense since, unlike Toothless, she's experienced a lot of bad sht and terrible human interaction. Sge probably lacked a lot of the curiosity and social nature of all the other dragons we've seen as well because of the captivity.
@@JAUBAnimated but I've seen real life creatures that are feral that have more personality then her, and let's not forget that toothless was feral once and wasn't flashed out like she is
I would have LOVED to see the Light Fury reacting to Toothless' new tail fin!
Ikr!! Has a wild dragon it would have made a lot of sense!
I hate deleted scenes
they always add so much, and yet some dumb f decides they donnt belong to the movie
I don’t think it would have “saved” her but it would have made here soooo soooo much better than she was left and gave her more personality and character that the really flat “female love interest” than we got. Another thing the would have helped save he was her ORIGINAL DESIGN!! I love her original design so much but what we got is so so flat and why is it covered in glitter??? They could have harnessed fire but the only got ashes of what could have been great!
this deleted scene would've made their flight so much more lively and feel like a real HTTYD movie..
This whole sequence is so cute, not sure it would’ve saved the movie but I would’ve cared about the chemistry with Toothless and The Lightfury a little more. This reminds me of Spirit and Rain in a way.
Nothing could save the LF, this movie was doomed from the second she attacked Hiccup multiple times and toothless did nothing. This was ths most out of character shit ever
Thank you!
Yess!!!! This movie is the WORST of the trilogy
I honestly don't think it would, they should have added more bonding moments yes but more spread out imo. This character showed 0 unique traits other than "oh, new dragon with new behavioral and biological traits" I didn't see anything unique to her compared to Toothless! She didn't seem to have anything she cared for or any sort of personality, even if you eatch the movie on its own you can tell what these two are, Toothless is bubbly charismatic and shows clear personal "goals" he wants to achieve while her is just the cute-sy supportive character who has nothing going for her but this plotline. The movie had plenty issues in general but that part just rubs me the wrong way a ton
I really dont care if httyd 3 was longer cause of this. Its adorable.
I really don't understand why they deleted this. It's absolutely amazing and adorable! This scene would've really showed Toothless's and the Light Fury's relationship and how strong/true it actually is. I have decided to live in a lie and say that this scene was actually in the movie. I love the third movie, but I just wish they would've kept this scene in.
Same
I will never understand why they removed this. She has such a fun and quirky personality! Hell, SHE HAS A PERSONALITY!
Everything here is so cute and I feel like msot people would've liked to see this in the movie
I think the film makers decided to delete this scene because of how long it'll take to animate the cloud moving thanks to the wing flaps and all, but that's just my opinion, either way this scene is beautiful, gives the Light Fury a much better character than just being as a mate to Toothless
still tho it would had added more personality to luna(the light fury) while also showing people going on dates and something doesnt go to plan its ok even if its embarrassing i love luna truly i do but people are right that we didnt see really much personality every screentime she got as well she behaved the same way really this scene added to personality what kind of female she is not just toothless lover or the scared light fury
I like this because she is the one who initiates the intertwined free fall which real birds of prey do in courtship. Shows that she really did like him instead of only playing hard to get.
I have no problem with the light fury. Her being a love interest dong really seems bad. I think my problem is come on, this scene was so cute, plus the music sounds more fitting for them hanging out together. They could've kept it
As a light fury hater (I'm sorry lovers) I've got to agree... I would actually like her way better with this scene!
That's what I always thought!
Agreed. I hate the fact that any scene that gives her a shred of personality ended up getting cut. It’s almost like they were afraid to give her too much character. This scene would have made her so much better and would’ve made her relationship with Toothless feel less forced.
"Property of DreamWorks - do not duplicate"
Screw that someone animate it rn.
We now can see more into the light fury's character that she can be playful when she is out of the hidden world when her job is the queen! 😃
I quite like the bit of personality shining through the light fury in this. She acts all poised and dignified but it’s clear here that she can be just as willing to indulge in play as much as toothless does. And the look of wonderment she has when in the air with toothless after he licks her is..oh my goshhh it’s like she’s realizing for the first time that Toothless isn’t just putting on an act..he’s a weirdo but he’s sincere. And that sincerity allows her to be vulnerable with him. In a similar way Toothless was vulnerable to Hiccup..but Hiccup refused to hurt Toothless and they become friends 🥺bahhh I need to stop or I’ll be here all night.
It was a 5 minute scene, im sure they could have implemented this... I like seeing her fun and playful personality
It can take hours to animate even as little as 30 seconds depending on how detailed the movies are, they probably cut this beautiful scene so they could meet the deadline they set for themselves after already postponing the original release date :)
@@toonie_playzz maybe but even so, it would have been a lot nicer with it in
I'm still mad that they didn't even give her a NAME. The writers were like "Oh she doesn't have a name to emphasise how much of a wild untamed creature she is" Screw you, we could have gotten Toothless and Gummy, not Toothless and nameless Light Fury.
toothless and toothfull (im sorry)
@@1ynn_0toothless and toothlots
Gummy is such a cute name to give her
She doesn't have a name because she doesn't have a rider. It makes perfect sense not to humanize her that way, because she literally is the dragon that Toothless left Hiccup to become.
@@reachinghigher4259I don’t know if I would say it would “humanize” her, but I agree that giving her a name would essentially lay a claim on her that humans don’t actually have.
what couldve saved the light fury, was actual light fury lore in the movie
😂 right?
Like we have with Toothless? lol We know what he's capable of in terms of strength, sure, but we have no idea where they come from, how they adapted, where they live, where they breed - the only NF lore we got in this movie was that they mate for live and can't survive in extreme cold. So... I kind of find this a weak argument. At least we know Light Furies seem to be permanent residents in THW, since we saw three of them besides the female.
I will be taking this as cannon, and there is nothing anyone can do to convince me otherwise.
This is epic.
Agreed. It's canon until they do something to contradict it. And if they do, it means there's more HTTYD material out.
The scene was probably cut for pacing reasons, but it really shouldn't have been. Watching these two orcas of the sky in a full courtship flight would have really brought some magic back to a movie that was sorely lacking in it.
Orcas of the sky, that's hilarious. Love it. XD
@@TheEnvisFuryThink about it:
They're extremely smart, on the edge of full sapience while still being animals
They're very social. Toothless was TERRIFIED when he was first shot down and given a chance to fly on his own, flatly rejected it.
They're apex predators even though they aren't the largest dragons by far.
Their aerial courtship massively reminds one of cetacean courtship, just faster because air over water.
They can be temperamental and deadly effective in defending themselves, but do not attack humans without cause.
They really did remind me of orcas in a lot of ways.
@@ArchTeryx00 I don't disagree, it just sounded amusing. Also , "edge of full sapience while still being animals"? I hate that argument.
@@TheEnvisFury Awkwardly worded, I do admit. But what would you call something like that? Orcas, iRL, are a real edge case (as are Sperm Whales). So is Toothless. He acts instinctively some of the time as animals do, but he also has many of the hallmarks of human-level abstract reasoning. Being "an animal" isn't a bad thing - we all are - but I guess it comes down to how much ROM vs. RAM a critter has. How much is preprogrammed instinct, and how much is learned behavior? We're still researching that with orcas, but they have features no other animal on the planet save us have, like culture. In Toothless' case, that question was handled with a whole lot more grace and complexity than with most critters in animated fiction, and that's what drew me to the series in the first place.
@@ArchTeryx00 Orcas and corvids are definitely the best examples, I just dislike the way animals get cast aside because, as you said, we're all animals.
I never meant to argue your point about the intelligence and other aspects of orcas, just yeah, wording is everything online as there is no "tone of text" lol
honestly. those dragons had more romance in this scene then i'll have in my entire life. shouldve kept the scene 😭😭
This could have shown how lively she actually was instead of being just a Glittery female dragon who’s only purpose is to be Toothless’s mate
Oooooh this would've added so muuuuuch. It makes the lightfury feel like she has an actual personality, that she's an individual. And it makes you feel like she really can make Toothless happy. Plus it just is much more convincing in showing that she's warming up to him and starting to really like him. :')
This also would have made their relationship progression feel more natural
The bit with them spinning in circles while holding each other's tails and then later sort of repeating that but holding each others legs was honestly really cute. It reminds me of how some birds of prey will lock talons with each other in flight and just dive and spin around doing so during courtship. Between this and the dances they gave Toothless in the final film, I get the vibe they did a lot of research when working into this movie. Shame this scene was cut. It would have been so nice if it was kept in.
After learning about this deleted scene, I am upset
DreamWorks: THIS IS OUR PROPERTY!!!! DO NOT DUPLICATE IT!!!!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭
some guy: haha duplication go brrrr
while the “point” of the original scene comes across in the full movie (which is why i imagine this was cut) i feel like the more extended version wouldve been warranted to show the connection between these two characters. I have other issues with httyd3 and the light fury so its inclusion wouldnt magically make me love or even like the movie but it wouldve made the light fury and toothless’ bond feel a little more genuine
it was insanely sudden and yeah as cute and as awesome an idea it was, it was NOT THAT GENUINE, ngl i cant help feeling it couldve been better if she wasnt in the trailer at all somehow? (or maybe if they just yk did better) granted that wouldnt have made much sense but if they focused on grimmal tryna finish his night fury killing streak and left the light fury as a surprise maybe i wouldve loved the movie, i gotta be honest tho the scene where all dragons left had me bawling despite what unfortunately the majority of the movie lacked
The reason I think Light Fury doesn't feel more than a female put to distract Toothless as it seems to be. Is because the movie was rushed as fuck. They tried to put everything in a 1hour and a half movie. I didn't even understood well the whole story. It was for a 3 hour movie. The rushing affected the whole world building, even the villian.
i found this insanely sad cus Grimmel's character idea was AMAZING it legit had the potential to be better than drago which is near impossible for sure, and frankly i think because the movie was a tiny bit of a flop it didnt really let me end my obsession? which is now making me desperate for them to make something again but BETTER (i am aware of the live action one coming i stg it better be good or i will grind dreamworks bones into a bloody powder and make a dreamworks movie about it)
This definitely should’ve been the courting scene instead of the beach one, as fun as that scene is. I still love the light fury without this scene (I agree her character design is less than favorable but she’s still amazing to me)
So... we all got recommended this now?
...yeah
Yup
lmao yes
Yep.
Funny huh?
The bit in 4:51 should've been kept in like they did a death spiral which is based of a real life thing where bald eagles in love fly high up in the air and grab each others talons and spiral downwards so seeing this be taken out is really disappointing i would've loved to see that animated
It was short but they did do this in the movie when they entered the hidden world
The best thing about the light fury's design is the marine traits of her morphology, I wish they had leaned into that more heavily because it's so subtle that she just looks like a toothless recolor at a glance :/
That's usually the point of a sub-species, though. They're very similar and only have small physical or genetic differences. She's a simpler version of a Fury, one that clearly has adapted better than NFs seeing as LFs have survived all this time.
HTTYD 3 felt bloated with so many random plot points. I keep seeing all the deleted scenes and wishing we got those instead of half the random things in the movie