Overwatch 2 Mythbusters - S9 DPS PASSIVE Edition
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- I know it's "damage" passive not "DPS" passive but it just... sounds nicer... know what I'm sayin?
0:00 - Intro
0:14 - Do cleanse abilities remove the 20% healing reduction DPS passive?
0:29 - Can abilities that apply self-cleanse remove the 20% healing reduction DPS passive?
0:55 - Does the 20% healing reduction DPS passive reduce healing from health packs?
1:16 - Does Ana's friendly Biotic Grenade override the 20% healing reduction DPS passive?
2:07 - Do deployables apply the 20% healing reduction DPS passive? (BOB, Torb Turret, Symm Turret)
2:32 - Does the 20% healing reduction DPS passive stack when multiple damage heroes damage the same target?
2:55 - Does B.O.B. receive the global healing passive after not taking damage for 5 seconds?
3:18 - Does Echo retain the 20% healing reduction DPS passive when duplicating a Tank or Support?
3:38 - Does Pharah apply the 20% healing reduction DPS passive when she damages herself?
3:54 - Does Genji's Deflect apply the 20% healing reduction DPS passive?
4:19 - Does the 20% healing reduction DPS passive affect lifesteal abilities like Moira's Biotic Grasp?
4:35 - Does the 20% healing reduction DPS passive act as a debuff for Kiriko's Protection Suzu to grant additional HP?
4:55 - Is the respawn healing affected by the 20% healing reduction DPS passive?
5:10 - Can the Zarya+Hanzo ultimate combo burst through Zenyatta's Transcendence?
5:29 - Does Brigitte's Repair Packs heal less over time if they're spammed?
5:47 - Does Ana's Biotic Grenade amplify Doomfist's Meteor Strike healing?
6:03 - Does Doomfist keep the anti-heal effect when using Meteor Strike?
6:17 - Does Moira's Coalescence pass through Lifeweaver's Petal Platform?
6:37 - Does Moira's Biotic Orb go through Lifeweaver's Petal Platform?
6:55 - Does a Reinhardt's Firestrike pass through Lifeweaver's Petal Platform?
7:05 - Does Hanzo's Dragonstrike lifesteal under Mauga's Cardiac Overdrive?
7:21 - Does unsticking stuck projectiles count as cleansing debuff with Kiriko's Protection Suzu?
7:35 - Does Sombra's Hack remove the lifesteal aspect of Moira's Biotic Grasp?
7:48 - Does Soldier's Biotic Field healing stop if there is a barrier between line of sight of its center?
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I wish there was a visual indicator to show you have the dps passive applied to you
They're working on it
Like cauterize in paladins
They said they are working on it
Most original comment award 2024
I'd rather not have more clutter on the screen, so hopefully they just make it an option
I remember they nerfed damage boost to not apply on Hanzo's ultimate because it went through Transcendece and now it doesnt matter anymore
They did it with junk tire and dva bomb too. But that was bc mercy got insane ult charge for boosting it.
@@shanem8957 Not sure why, Mercy should be allowed to have things like this, it separates the good Mercy players from the bad ones, yet Blizzard only ever seems to remove skill expression from her.
@@bigfudge2031 the issue is when she could get valk every fight sometimes more than once. They would have to increase the ult cost to balance it.
@@shanem8957They could have just massively nerfed Valk duration but decreased the cost to make it more like a tracer pulse bomb where you earn it often but have little impact, it would make Mercy a much more fluid character.
@@bigfudge2031i dont think holding one button down instead of the other should even be called a skill expression tbh
Bubble Pop is such a throwback.
That edit took me flat out I was not expecting that
health packs are not affected by dps passive because they apply cleanse effect: you can remove Ashe burn, widow's venom mine effect by using them as well.
Don’t cleanse hack or slows tho
It doesn't cleanse Ana's anti-heal or JQ's rampage, which are probably the most similar debuffs to the DPS passive.
@@solidforge2016well to be fair it’s ANTI HEAL
@@jayayj5574to be fair, in a sense, so is the dps passive
@@robingilmore3924 while yes that’s true it’s not an active ability by another player therefore it’s irrelevant to the mechanics of the actual gameplay.
KarQ with the hyuna reference straight off the bat was definitely not something i expected, but something i do profoundly respect.
Health packs remove negative effects such as Burn and Poison. Do they remove the dps passive?
Literally answered a minute into the video
I agree! Like in Team Fortress 2
@@pixel_vengeur391No, the video answers if the health pack healing is reduced by the passive, not if the passive is cleansed afterwards.
@@bumblewynunless whoever coded the dps passive is insane then the health pack healing as normal would indicate the passive was cleansed
@@bumblewyn If the pack heals for the whole amount, it cleanses the passive, like it does the burning effect or venom mine
KarQ stands for not wasting any time! Thanks for all the work you put into these!
Genji deflecting a Moira damage orb is kinda strong if that orb is deflected into a good position, right? It'll constantly be applying the dps passive if it's floating around and touching the enemy.
You're overthinking it a bit too much, the passive it's that strong. Bastion can shoot 300 bullets at the enemies and constantly apply the passive, yet he is one of the worst DPS right now (as he always should be)
@@bigfudge2031when i play genji, deflecting the orb is exactly what i look for when targeting moira. i either end up healing myself to continue fighting her or i get a purple orb to kill her faster (plus dps passive incase i miss) it’s redundant, but still
Tfw I got the bubble pop reference immediately
Thanks again bro for making all this info super digestible and easy to understand!
If they ever want to adjust how this passive works in the future, I had an idea that maybe it could be a 10% reduction that’s stackable so a double focused target ends up taking 20%… I have no idea how balanced that would feel but it could be fun to play with target focus incentives like that
I like this a lot
I feel like the 20% is a little too strong as it is now, so I like this change!!
Personally I would make it ramp up/down based on damage, so you just don't swipe an entrire enemy team with Mei to get everyone debuffed, while heroes like Cassidy cannot do that.
to be honest the dps passive should be reworked right now. The Dps passive Deleted Tanks from the game right now. you cant play a non dive tank cause you get shred in 1 second as a TANK and this isnt even a joke. The Powercreep is just insane with this aswell, personaly they should have changed the damage in the game instead of giving more health to everyone and then lose on 20% healing.
@@alainpavek693This exactly. Heroes with less damage and fast fire rate would increase it in a linear fashion while those with higher damage and a slow fire rate would increase it in a burst. Then after a second of not taking damage from a DPS the effect would decrease back down to 0.
If they do ever add an icon to show that you're affected by the passive they could add a bar next to it that fills up, that way both you and your supports know how much their healing is gonna be reduced.
If Reins ankle is in a shield but he can't see it, does his slam still work?
Poor Flats 😢
5:29 Briggitay be slayin'
0:23 soldiers 76 icon 🤨
Great research, thanks!
Did ya know roadhog has a special voiceline if you stand on top of the car on circuit royal 1st spawn defending? He goes heh I’m on a car after you stand there for like 15 seconds. I think junkrat says something too but no other heroes say anything so I thought that was neat
really surprised that Kiriko doesn't get the boosted healing for the suzu, but I guess that would just make her too strong.
1:57 I just wanted to watch the video I didn't wanna retake algebra 😂
i know u failed that shit cause that was not algebra
@@Sasha-jo4tw didn't mean to offend the dean of algebraic equations, my bad
Learning that Symm and Torb turret apply the passive is terrifying.
They need to fix Echo copy. She is a DPS hero. EDIT: crying laughing right now at the Moira orb spaghetti code. Kind of embarrassing tbh.
5:28 Bro really said Brig-eat-tays
Man Frick the dps passive
Moira doesn’t “Lifesteal” per se, it’s a set 20HP per second and is not affected by damage amplifiers from allies nor damage reductions from enemies.
That kumon math be kicking in with these calculations
the way moira orb goes through lw platform, you can try genji deflecting rein's fs, same as the orb when bounce once it might go through.
Karq picking the most difficult ways to bust these myths instead of just setting up a simple workshop tool
Does Ashe's dynamite apply the -20% healing to her if she hits herself with it? Pharah doesn't, but dynamite might work differently since it applies burn.
No. You can’t apply the passive to yourself
7:21 What about Cassidy's grenade? Since hinder is a negative effect
Super useful!
In regards to the moira orb bug, if you throw the orb at the floor, will it bounce and penetrate the platform? or does it need to bounce specifically off of the platform twice for the bug to work?
This helped a ton, thanks King
posted 2 mins ago king
@@montymol3_467 hey, I've had a lot of questions about how it works, so I'm just trying to help boost engagement to show thanks for some answers
QUESTION: Do supports get even extra healing after 5 seconds? Like do the two healing passives stack after the allotted time?
Is symmetra's shield self-heal passive affected by the dps 20% healing reduction? Her passive only regens shield health
Rein firestrike gets deleted if it collides with the petal platform at all, unlike regular walls where the collision hitbox is smaller than the damage hitbox
4:08 this makes sense as whenever Genji deflects a projectile, he effectively becomes the new owner of that projectile.
Does Orisa's Fortify protect from all abilities that have a forced critical hit? We know it does for Mauga's Volatile Chaingun, but what about Overrun, Sombra's hacked Virus, or Reinhardt's Earthshatter direct hit?
We need a visual indicator for having the debuff.
What about reapers lifesteal?? Is it reduced from the damage passive?
4:20
Does torb get healed by his turret damage when in cardiac overdrive? Same thing for other deployables.
yes, because they are considered "pets" so it's basically an extension of the character meaning you did the dmg meaning you get the lifesteal, just like hanzos dragon in the video
Moira’s Biotic Grasp self-heal isn’t actually a lifesteal. It does a constant HPS if she’s dealing damage to an enemy hero, regardless of any damage modifiers. It’s affected by healing modifiers of course, but it’s not a true lifesteal like The Reaping.
so the way that the bounce of the moira orb goes through life weaves peddle. if you deflect a fire strike does it go thorugh it?
Does the new DPS passive reduce the +25HP instant healing by 20% in Brig's packs aswell?
And does the new DPS passive reduce Rally healing too on allies even though it gives Overhealth?
i dont think the reduction applies overhealth, as its not really healing and just straight up adding hp to the current health pool
Does the DPS passive apply to bob and torb’s turret (when trying to heal them)?
4:48 confused by Kiriko's suzu: does this mean the suzu will first remove the dps debuff since it gives a full 80hp but without considering it a debuff so not 110hp? I would've expected suzu to only heal 64hp if the debuff was still in effect.
Can you test if all healing after suzu does NOT get debuffed also?
Bump. Confused by this as well
from what i understand, suzu clenses the dps passive but doesn't consider it a traditional debuff/negative effect like anti nade or burning (maybe it's because it's a passive or something idk) so if kiriko suzus someone affected by dps passive, it removes the passive, doesn't give bonus hp for removing a debuff, then all healing returns to normal on suzud heroes
1:08 that's probably because health packs also cleanse negative effects (although it doesn't cleanse anti-heal)
Ana’s anti nade doesn’t reduce healing by 100% it makes it so you can’t be healed aka healing can’t touch you. Dps passive reduces healing by 20%. That’s why health kits can’t be picked up when hit by anti.
only damage over time effects usually I'm pretty sure
That Ana one made me dizzy 😵💫
Can you apply the DPS passive to multiple targets from one DPS? So your Sombra or Tracer with spread, and your bullets hit multiple enemies; will they all receive the debuff or just the last one shot?
Gigantic is coming back on April 9th and I'm so ready to be done with OW
I thought you were hard trolling but cool, I did have some fun with the game so it's nice it gets a new chance
@knavenformed9436 not trolling in either sense thankfully!!! Hope to see you on Gigantic in April!
Projectile size changes mythbust: did non-damaging projectiles like sombra translocator also get affected by the increase in proj size?
I wonder if you pick up a hacked health pack, do you get the 20% debuff? That technically counts as Sombra's heal, so it might work differently than an unhacked.
Thank you KarQ for being a pinnacle in the Overwatch community, answering all the questions that we're all too lazy to look into.
If the Moira's orb after bouncing would pass through the platform, would deflect do the same? How after two deflects?
Curious if the DPS passive can be applied to multiple enemies at once by the same dps or if it will cancel early on target 1 if target 2 is damaged before the timer finishes. Also, if two DPS are damaging the same enemy does the debuff timer from the first attacker get cancelled out by the second? e.g Cass hits a target and then 1 second later Ashe hits the target. Will the debuff be applied for 3 seconds or 4 seconds?
yes a dps can apply it to multiple people at once. its not discord orb. that being said, the timer doesnt "stack" it reset with each most recent dps damage applied to the person, and it will keep resetting until the dps stops proc-ing it
Does the dps passive work on the global healing passive and on the payload healing?
Was the last thing always the case? I feel like you used to be able to block soldier heals with bubble but maybe it was just LOS.
The reason also why the health pack works normally, is because the Health Pack IS a Cleanse at the same time. Just like when you walk into a health pack after burning, you'll stop burning.
I know the dps passive doesn't affect health packs but do health packs remove the effect like they remove burning?
Is torbs turret effected by the dps passive?
(The hammer repair)
So does morias ball pass through because it bounced off the platform or simply because it bounced, if you throw the ball at the floor instead of the platform would it go straight through?
Question for Tank edition:
Does Doomfist gets more hp when Ulting with the new healing passive that tanks get as well?
Just saw a clip of Lifeweaver canceling Sigmas ult by placing tree or even his platform in the center of his ult
This could be a good myth to verify
When sigma Ults a half hp target can Maugas Cardiac overdrive DMG reduction keep them alive?
You get normal healing from health pack if debuffed, got it, but health packs also cleanse virus and fire, does they cleanse the passive? 🤔 i suppose mauga cardiac overdrive or reaper lifesteal also get the passive, right?
do healthpacks cleanse dps passive?? i wonder since they cleanse ignite from dynamite and maugas gun. what i mean is will you get normal heals after getting a healthpack or -20%?
Does Ramattra's Ultimate go through Petal Platform? I swear I've died to it before while standing on top of the platform.
Blizzard does
Does Junkrats tire get affected by the self heal passive?
ive played moira for so long and im just learning she lifesteals with biotic grasp
Does placing a petal platform over a pulse bomb cover the explosion?
Does anyone know if dps passive applies to turrets, as in it reduces the healing Torb does when he is fixing the turret?
Does Mercy receive even less self healing (like -40%) while healing a teammate if they're both (mercy and her ally) under the -20% healing DPS passive ?
Does Bob, torb turret, sym turret and illri ult get life steal from mauga aoe?
i was wondering a few things
1. if genji deflects mauga, does he get the crit damage once the target is on fire?
2. if genji is discorded and deflects, does he do the extra damage?
3. what is the most damage you can do with one ability in a realistic setting? like if you have a bap, mercy and another bap (echo copy) does the damage stock?
1. Yes, the crit mechanic is built into the projectile so he does get auto crits vs burning targets
2. No. Damage amplified from discord is applied when the damage is done
3. Multiple Mercy damage boost DON'T stack but multiple Bap windows DO stack, but the effect is applied once per window, so Genji deflecting it back won't trigger another boost
So DPS debuff doesn't affect healing from healthpacks. I wonder if that's because healthpacks cleanse the debuff (as they cleanse dot too).
Can you make another settings guide please? It would be awesome
One that triggers me sometimes - Kiriko`s healing ofuda passing through Amp Matrix (Baptiste`s Ultimate) double the amount of healing per paper? Or it is just some audio bug when the paper pass though Bap window?
Yes, he answered that in kiriko’s myth-busters episode. It was like a year ago, but really good one imo
Does roadhog take a breather ability gets affected by the dps passive??
how does the % healing buff from Sombra's hack on health packs combine with the dps passive? Are the percentages applied multiplicatively or additively?
Sombra doesn't apply any healing buff. Hacked health packs respawn faster and can't be used by enemies, but the healing remains the same
@@lyzder7298 oh wait i thought they increased healing... damn learned something new
the hyuna cameo
lmao nice hyuna reference
Can Mei’s wall take you out of Zarya’s ult in OW2? I remember you could kind of in OW1.
I would make it so DPS bullet hits have a new sound effect to indicate the debuff
0:22 HYUNA REFERENCE
Does a friendly Ana nade amplify the HP/s of the global healing passive?
Does Kitsune rush speed up the activation time of the global healing passive?
Does Kitsune Rush Speed up the HP/s of the global healing passive?
Yes, no and no
Does Widow's venom mine apply the dps passive? I know Ashe's dynamite does so I'd assume yes.
Does a deflected firestrike go through petal platform?
Can you stick another person if they were killed by the impact damage of pulse bomb
Does taking a healthpack cleanse the DPS passive? (Like it cleanses burn effect)
Does widow’s venom mine apply the dps passive?
but does a reflected firestrike go through the petal platform?? and can you bounce an symbiotic orb off the ground first or does it have to hit the platform first for it to be bugged
imma test this
So does a health pack also cleanse the DPS passive?
But can Ana nade with zen trans can survive Hanzo’s ult and Zarya grav?
does reaper self heal get affected by the dps passive?
What about a deflected firestrike does it go through a lw petal
Do you have a series where you break down the maths a bit slower?
seeing temple of anubis brings me back. hopefully they rework those old 2cp maps into some other core competitive game mode
2CP is permanent in the arcade
Do HOTs (ie single moira hand spray) snapshot when applied? Do they keep healing 100% if applied to a target before the dps passive is applied or do they update with each buff/debuff application? I assume the latter bc of how biotic grenade works.
Do DOTs snapshot? Or do they update with each buff/debuff applied? (ie Does Ashe's dynamite dmg increase if discord is applied after?)
All DOTs and HOTs are dynamic.
@@alainpavek693 ty!
Thanks KarQ
Does the dps passive affects the Symmetras shield lifesteal?
i think that syms lifesteal technically counts as healing on the scoreboard so i think it does
does the dps passive affect junkerqueens self heal?
If a damage is shooting a torb turret does torbs hammer repair less