What Caused the Second Sudanese Civil War?

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    Andrew Natsios, Sudan, South Sudan, & Darfur: What Everyone Needs to Know, (2012) amzn.to/3ucfoBI
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    Footnotes
    [1] Natsios, p. 40-1, 47, Johnson, p. 55-7
    [2] Johnson, 39-40
    [3] Johnson, 41-2
    [4] Johnson 59-61, 87-90, Vance, 72, Carter 283-4
    [5] Johnson, 55-7
    [6] Natsios, 53-5
    [7] Natsios, 117-21
    [8] Johnson, 51-3, Natsios, 59-61
    [9] Johnson, 42-3, 51-3
    [10] Natsios, 57-8, Johnson, 43-4
    [11] Natsios, 117-21, Johnson, 44-5
    [12] Johnson 47-51
    [13] Natsios 58-9
    [14] Bush, 91-2
    [15] Johnson, 44-7
    [16] Johnson, 43, 51-3
    [17] Johnson, 53-5
    [18] Johnson 55-7, Natsios, 53-5
    [19] Johnson 53-5, Natsios 55-6, Carter 271
    [20] Sharon 415-7, Johnson, 59-61
    [21] Natsios 59-66
    [22] Johnson, 61-6
    [23] Carter, 205
    [24] Haig, 30, Johnson, 57-8
    [25] Reagan, Life, 290, Reagan, Diaries, 86
    [26] Reagan Diaries, 196-8, 241, 255-6, Shultz, 294, 667, Reagan, Life, 444
    [27] Johnson, 55-7
    [28] Natsios 59-61, 68-9, Johnson 67-70
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Komentáře • 103

  • @CasualHistorian
    @CasualHistorian  Před 4 měsíci +6

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  • @N3onDreamz
    @N3onDreamz Před 4 měsíci +50

    As a Sudanese person living in the diaspora, thank you for making the time to cover this issue 🙏🏿 my father lived through both wars and despite the horrors he saw, he still believes in the future of a free, democratic led Sudan.

    • @bobbobby3085
      @bobbobby3085 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Inshallah

    • @HS7NewsTV
      @HS7NewsTV Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@bobbobby3085 free, democratic led Sudan with No allah

    • @bobbobby3085
      @bobbobby3085 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@HS7NewsTV Why? the people are muslim if you said that to them they would not like that

  • @bigiron9334
    @bigiron9334 Před 4 měsíci +26

    Bro is looking even better then before. Stay on your journey brother!

  • @thomas11156
    @thomas11156 Před 4 měsíci +12

    The Northerners are Africans with many different tribes that spoke indigenous languages. But the national language is Arabic.

    • @sudanesearmy
      @sudanesearmy Před 4 měsíci +6

      Right ! That's what most other African countries and some western countries don't understand .

    • @lukashradecky5492
      @lukashradecky5492 Před 4 měsíci +6

      True. In fact the Arab speaking African nations arent considered Arab “Arab” rather the original people groups (Amazigh, Egyptians, Nubians) adopting Arab culture and language. In fact anyone who spoke Arabic no matter their ancestry considered one an “Arab”

    • @Tefera-hf8fw
      @Tefera-hf8fw Před 4 měsíci +1

      Its not pure arabic but a mixure of indiginous and arabic@@sudanesearmy

    • @moderatecanuck
      @moderatecanuck Před 22 dny

      Exactly. That point bothered so much when I heard it. Its the same nonsense they use toward other North Africans

    • @moderatecanuck
      @moderatecanuck Před 22 dny

      @@lukashradecky5492exactly

  • @user-gr9fq9gt9w
    @user-gr9fq9gt9w Před 2 měsíci +4

    Joseph lagu is still alive and he is 94

  • @deenrqqwe6794
    @deenrqqwe6794 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you for making this video

  • @DatPiffy
    @DatPiffy Před 4 měsíci

    Prescient & professional, thank you!

  • @catsnads01
    @catsnads01 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Very informative, thank you.

  • @michaelowino228
    @michaelowino228 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Good video.

  • @gnrvintagediecastracing7978

    Fantastic work , a level of detail I have never heard before.

  • @democracyboys
    @democracyboys Před 4 měsíci +7

    Damn dude you’re looking better than I do now, it wasn’t like that 3 years ago when I started following 😂 congrats and nice haircut

  • @christopherhoffer6643
    @christopherhoffer6643 Před 4 měsíci +10

    Could you make a video about the Tigray War in Ethiopia.

  • @paulgaskins7713
    @paulgaskins7713 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Thanks!

  • @ashrafnouman8010
    @ashrafnouman8010 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Please note that halaib triangle is part of Sudan not Egypt and you can check UN maps as well as US & UK department of state maps

    • @mouserat6835
      @mouserat6835 Před 3 měsíci

      but its controlled by egypt doe

    • @ashrafnouman8010
      @ashrafnouman8010 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @mouserat6835
      Well, that doesn't mean it is a part of Egypt. Rather, it means it is occupied by Egypt 😬

  • @expand9487
    @expand9487 Před 4 měsíci

    i know it takes you many days to do research about the topics that you talk about, especially given how detailed you go. but do you have any recommendation channel that does deep history.

  • @mujtabashanan3548
    @mujtabashanan3548 Před 4 měsíci +5

    You can't just lump different ethnically and culturally diverse groups and call it a nation. Sudan is till a mess and will never function as a country.
    Compared to other countries with cohesive ethnic composition, Sudan pandemonium will continue until the country fracture.

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 Před měsícem +1

      Literally no country has this. None in Africa, South-America or Asia. Ethnicity is important though.

  • @ShubhamMishrabro
    @ShubhamMishrabro Před 4 měsíci +24

    Hopefully videos like these expose how Islamists were forcing their beliefs on non Muslims. Topics like these are not talked about

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 Před 4 měsíci

      😂 you got South Sudan what more do you want

    • @MikeChol-ts5wp
      @MikeChol-ts5wp Před 4 měsíci +10

      @@skp8748 we need Nuba mountain, Darfur , and blue Nile

    • @tamrasg6960
      @tamrasg6960 Před 4 měsíci

      Exactly I agree, They still Force people into their beliefs It's something that has been part of the Islamists for centuries The great-grandpa Lied to the kids And so on Generation after generation. When in fact this religion is horrible And they're always looking to Recruit people. That's by force, also what is funny is if a black Muslim, Tries to date an Arabian girl They won't be allowed, No matter how faithful you are to the Religion, Blackman, Or a black woman These Arabs will never respect you 💯 And if she goes ahead with it, There's something called The honour and kill, They're head gets decapitated, Just saying the truth

    • @Adrob56
      @Adrob56 Před měsícem

      @@MikeChol-ts5wp all muslim regions and you are not getting it

  • @n0rthbandit352
    @n0rthbandit352 Před 4 měsíci

    Was just introduced to your channel a few mins ago with a 4 year old video of yours. Holy fucking shit.... You did a lot of work on yourself, that must've been hard. Congrats.

  • @milansimonovic8267
    @milansimonovic8267 Před 4 měsíci

    Where did you get 4:44 futage?
    The subs are in Serbian Cyrilic.
    I can translate if you have more.

  • @TorricRoma
    @TorricRoma Před 4 měsíci +30

    Arab & Islamic imperialism

  • @ebrimajallow9631
    @ebrimajallow9631 Před 4 měsíci +59

    "ethic and religious tensions causing a war in Africa" That is CRAZY

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 Před 4 měsíci

      RSF is bankrolled by the UAE... this is an international proxy war that's about some of the largest gold reserves in the world.
      Religion and ethnicity are just smoke and mirrors

    • @canalmedusa123
      @canalmedusa123 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Ethnic

    • @farrightsocialistatheist845
      @farrightsocialistatheist845 Před 4 měsíci

      High : Diversity
      Low : IQ

    • @secretagent5954
      @secretagent5954 Před 4 měsíci +8

      ethnic and religious tensions causing a war anywhere? wild

    • @Nury_the_1
      @Nury_the_1 Před 4 měsíci +12

      ​@@secretagent5954 Nah but Africa is plagued, it's as if somebody deliberately drew borders so arbitrarily with no knowledge.

  • @MikeChol-ts5wp
    @MikeChol-ts5wp Před 4 měsíci +2

    I enjoyed your representation and the last picture of red army marching which in fact I was among them at that time.

  • @nathanielzarny1176
    @nathanielzarny1176 Před 4 měsíci +2

    25:43 you seem to have shifted the autonomous region to the right by accident, making it part of Ethiopia by mistake

    • @Tefera-hf8fw
      @Tefera-hf8fw Před 4 měsíci

      Was about to call my Prime minister of this invasion.

  • @MikeChol-ts5wp
    @MikeChol-ts5wp Před 4 měsíci +2

    I got a question if you can be able to know it. Was President Reagan supporting the Government of president Gaafar Nimeiri in Sudan at the early stages of the war? From 1983 to 1990s or until the end of Reagan presidency?

    • @CasualHistorian
      @CasualHistorian  Před 4 měsíci +6

      He supported Nimeiri until the 1985 coup, at which point US support for Khartoum was significantly curtailed, and by the 90s it was entirely gone due to Sudan supporting Saddam's invasion of Kuwait.

  • @awerlual4558
    @awerlual4558 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Can you please make a video about Riak machar and why he committed a massacre on Bor in 1991

  • @thomas11156
    @thomas11156 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The civil war in Ethiopia started in 1961 with the Eritrean war of independence and secession from Ethiopia. In 1974, the emperor was overthrown.

  • @dikiyulio
    @dikiyulio Před 4 měsíci +1

    👍🏼

  • @edanridge3023
    @edanridge3023 Před 25 dny

    16:33 I feel like that’s something historians and intellectuals, do a lot with a lot of different types of conflicts, from wars, to ethnic or religious violence to crime and gang conflict, where they try to say that the undertone or real driving force behind them is economic or material, which is often true, but I feel like sometimes they do that because to them economics or materialist motivators are more familiar and quantifiable something they can calculate and understand, while things, such as sectarianism, racism, blood feuds, pride and power, are by their very nature emotional and irrational, impossible to fully measure or comprehend, unless you’re feeling them, something intellectuals, especially technocratic ones, are often deeply uncomfortable confronting.

  • @Brad_Pittstop
    @Brad_Pittstop Před 3 měsíci

    Grant Hurst is a very witty and intelligent man.

  • @thomas11156
    @thomas11156 Před 4 měsíci +3

    The Northerns are African, but they speak Arabic and local languages.

    • @bafanamahlatse1923
      @bafanamahlatse1923 Před 4 měsíci

      They are arabized,and identify as Arab not African

    • @lunyolieny4463
      @lunyolieny4463 Před 4 měsíci

      i’m a descendant of the south and they’re not my people they belong to the arabs their values and culture is arabic not african

  • @aabbccdd4710
    @aabbccdd4710 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Sugondese civil war

  • @paulgaskins7713
    @paulgaskins7713 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I wonder if words like Mississippi sound as funny to them as the word any ananwa sound to us

    • @everettduncan7543
      @everettduncan7543 Před měsícem

      Probably. A good number of languages in the region don't have the sound p

  • @beepboop204
    @beepboop204 Před 4 měsíci +1

  • @nevergiveup19841
    @nevergiveup19841 Před 27 dny

    Second civil war... This week

  • @Lightyagamee
    @Lightyagamee Před 27 dny

    Nigeria is up next

  • @zacharybradshaw8844
    @zacharybradshaw8844 Před 4 měsíci

    Why u look like Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys 😂

  • @feartheamish9183
    @feartheamish9183 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Bro you lost weight!

  • @pickititllneverheal9016
    @pickititllneverheal9016 Před 4 měsíci +9

    What are you talking about? Muslims are a peaceful religious people. They would never use violence to push an agenda!!! 🤪💥💀

    • @lukashradecky5492
      @lukashradecky5492 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Many people do. Why do you act as if you exposed a grand conspiracy?

    • @pickititllneverheal9016
      @pickititllneverheal9016 Před 4 měsíci

      @@lukashradecky5492 WHAT? Don't you have a bottom surgery appointment to get to? Go away.

    • @user-uv9tl4jt8w
      @user-uv9tl4jt8w Před 4 měsíci

      @@lukashradecky5492 Wherever you are, there is violence and conflict.

    • @loanswashere.
      @loanswashere. Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@lukashradecky5492
      I mean I dont blame them, alot of the recent news coming out of the middle east and other muslim countries is just violence. When all you see about a group of people is just them being violence you start to think everyone in that group is like that.

  • @DA7274
    @DA7274 Před 4 měsíci

    Under 301 views

  • @bunnystrasse
    @bunnystrasse Před 4 měsíci +3

    Islam was the problem, still is.

    • @Tefera-hf8fw
      @Tefera-hf8fw Před 4 měsíci

      The northern Sudanese in collaboration with the arab slave masters were selling the southerners into slavery in the middle east and Asia.

  • @abdelrahmanelsheikh5798
    @abdelrahmanelsheikh5798 Před 4 měsíci +2

    This is wholly inaccurate. This video is clearly made by someone who has never set foot in Sudan.
    I'm a Sudanese citizen in my 50s. I lived through most of these wars; imposed on Sudan I should add.
    These wars have been a waged by proxy by foreign states meddling in Sudanese affairs. The first war by the ex colonial power
    The second war was waged by the terrorist regimes in Libya (durinh Gaddafi's rule) nd Ethiopia (during Mengistu bloody regime). Later on the rebels were supported by Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Uganda, Kenya to advance their influence into Sudanse territory.
    Know that facts, not propaganda like this!

    • @thephoenix756
      @thephoenix756 Před 3 měsíci +5

      False
      There were organic, internal reasons for war in Sudan; you can't just keep blaming external powers for your own actions

  • @WeWereKingPodcast
    @WeWereKingPodcast Před 27 dny

    This guy knows nothing about my beloved Sudan. He uses western media propaganda and makes content on it but he knows nothing about Sudan

    • @gnrvintagediecastracing7978
      @gnrvintagediecastracing7978 Před 12 dny

      Then send him what he should know, what he is missing , what corrections or context is missing. As for western propaganda, the fact is the west could care less about Sudan and virtually no information is known about Sudan. This is a channel I just discovered and I have learned a lot about Sudan that I have never known. So he may be incorrect but I doubt he is incorrect about everything and I really don’t even know what is considered propaganda in this video. The purpose of propoganda is to propel a myth and if that’s the case the propaganda has failed miserably