The Qur’an Has Changed?! - Creating the Qur’an with Dr. Jay - Episode 62
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- Al Fadi and Dr Jay continue their deep delve into the creation of the Qur’an focusing not only on its origins but also the claims it makes about itself. In the last episode, they revealed that over 26 unique Qur’ans exist which is directly opposite of what the Qur’an claims about itself. It says not a single word or dot has ever been altered, but today Al Fadi and Dr. Jay will show you 26 different compilations of the Qur’an.
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The problem is, how can we convince millions of people they got scammed for centuries?
Cognitive dissonance is very strong and that's just for those who are exposed to the truth!
Not sure we can; its the same problem we have with a lot of other scams: flat earth, human evolution, c@vid !9 vaccines, the food pyramid, atheism, rising sea levels, and so forth.
@@jpsholland very easy. Education. Keep looking at and supporting cira international, shamounian pfander films, christian prince, Godlogic. Point Muslims to these channels. Understand the basics of Islam. Have the means to refute them AT YOUR MEMORY. UNDERSTAND THE BASICS OF CHRISTIANITY AT YOUR MEMORY. REFUTE THE LIES AGAINST CHRISTIANITY AT YOUR MEMORY. GET AL FADI, CHRISTIAN PRINCE SHAMOUNIAN, PFANDER FILMS COPY THIS VERBALLY READ IT OUT IN ARABIC
You have to realize that you are the one who are scammed by these haters of Islam, they will try to find anything to make Islam and Quran as false in all these years, we don't buy it, it's all lies so we leave Islam, it's you who are misguided by all these lies for all these years, all these Christians who bring false arguments are non Arabic speakers or sientist of Quran, they bring arguments and accusations withought evidence or withought bringing the people of knowledge on these subjects from Arabic world.
@@ImCarolBwell everyone got scammed for centuries remember our books were only in Latin till pretty recently. Hopefully literacy will take care of this problem in time just like it did for the west.
I’m so glad Allah perfectly preserved 37 different Qurans
One for each wife.
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and counting....
@@googlespynetworkHe had only 11 wives and concubines.
😂😂😂😂
Quran is the only book 📙 copy pasted and twisted.. The best example of evolution 🤣 🤣 over the period of time ⌚
The Holy Heinz and its 57 versions
The flying spaghetti monster approves and the congregation says, "Ramen".
Dr. Jay, Brother Al-Fadi I must say you guys are not wrong. I speak spanish, every single spanish speaker has different ways to say the same thing. But the problem is, it literally changes the meaning of everything. For example , "popote" and "silbete" mean straw. But if I were to write it in the Qur'an it's "not the same". You hit the nail on the head Brother Al-Fadi. Even if it means the same thing, it's a totally DIFFERENT word. Completely smashing the "word for word letter for letter dot for dot" argument. You guys bring the hammer down on islam like no other. Hope you guys stay alive to see the day our muslim brothers all come to Jesus.
A Colombiano asks a Mexican for a straw at McDonalds… true story… confusion happened.
So there are different words that mean the same thing and different words that mean different things! Ouch! They've got the S.I.N coming and going.
@@ImCarolB you obviously missed me and Al-Fadis point. Not surprised, you muslims seem to lose brain cells when it comes to having to understand something.
@@SHAHSAHEB-ft5kd your quran is meaningless, now tell me, what was my point if you actually understood it?
@@Robot-Fone did you read the entire paragraph or are you a jahil ? Did you not hear me & Al-Fadi make the same point? Even if it means the same thing , its a different word in the text. Ya jahil.
And what is also interesting is that none of these Qurans are till over 100yrs after Mohammed.
Fake Books.
@@SHAHSAHEB-ft5kd Which one is the real book.
They should perhaps try to retrieve the earliest and most authentic version, but that would require a general recognition among the muslims that it is a book that has been edited and honed (also mistakes due to the weak early script). Then they would want to search further for the authentic originals of Bible events for Quran Bible stories, as far as one can, so would logically end up abandoning the Quran's versions - Jesus born in Bethlehem, not in the wilderness using a creative reuse of a Hagar episode from Genesis.
The Quran has changed a lot and the original doesn't exist anymore.
there was no original one. some christian homilies. every few decades another thing added. in 1924 was the first time they even thought to reconcile into 1 standard.
The Islamic god is not one neither is its divinity one.
Allahu was Muhammad's creation for all his personal needs and Desires,, if he want anything,, he was delivering message in the name of Allah,,, infact both are one.
Can you and Shamounian and or christian prince and or Jay do a complete series on shirk. What it is , shirk in tradition, daily prayer and in actual theology. In English AND ARABIC. I'm sure native Arabic speakers in Islamic countries will be very enlightened.
@@defenderoftruth3212 you're talking about EX MUSLIMS THAT Speak, READ, AND WRITE ARABIC. they know very well what shirk is. You perform shirk every time you pray to me 5 times a day. Shirk
@@defenderoftruth3212 Sam shamounian, Al Fadi are most certainly native Arabic ex Muslim that speaks, read and write Arabic. Jay Smith is northern Indian that speaks, reads and writes ARABIC. Christian prince speaks, reads and writes Arabic.
May The Lord bless you two beyond measure. ❤❤
Kindly regaurds From Afghanistan:
There is a Quran published in Moskow (19th Century ). I Hope U find it.
Is the Moscow Qur'an printed in Arabic or Russian?
@@gavinjames1145
Arabic.because rusians wanted to ocupy central Asia. It was atrick of colonialism.
@@abdhaigardez5680 Interesting! I visited the Grand Mosque in Moscow a few years ago. I wonder if they have a copy?
Jay Smith, you are one of the most intelligent and blessed person I have ever listened to. I wish I could see you in person one day.
Thank you ! Excited to hear what more you have found out
Thank you for sharing
Love this enlightening chanel
I am laughing my pants off guys! Great job!
So Sura 2:79 came TRUE with regards to all these different Korans!
(2:79) Woe, then, to those who write out the Scriptures with their own hands and then, in order to make a trifling gain, claim: “This is from Allah.”90 Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they thus earn.
@@kellyprell3206 Yup; it refers to "scriptures" in a generalized way, therefore it INCLUDES what Uthman, Hafs, and many others did to the Koran.
Al Baqarah is abouth the Jews about the thora🙃
@@Chippoka ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ means scripture and not scriptures 🥸
@@lahceno2168 It is plural in either usage in English; and it DOES not say "Injeel" or "Taurat."
First comment!!! AWESOME VID!
Thank you
I support: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
Allah has a golden library!
Thnks gentlemen
Praying for you two brothers in Christ. May God watch over you and give you good health.
This is absolutely devastating for this religion!
The house of cards begins to fall 😂 alhamdoooollleeeeelah!
Why would you think that all of the different readings had been destroyed in Egypt? Surely they wouldn't collect every variant copy of the Quran and throw it into the Nile so it makes sense that there would be variants all over the world.
If everyone wants to save themselves times and money finding 37 Quran's and learning Arabic, just go to the site that Dr Shady Nasser has built (probably his PhD students) which is EVQ or evquran. This list probably most of them. Just the first Surah has dozen in its seven verses - I tried to count them but lost count. It is easier to count that only 2 words have no variance.
Brother Al Fadi??? God bless, in the video you both show sister Hatun has 26 quran's and then dr Jay says she has 37 quran's. Now hafs has 7 readings which would 26+7 come to 34 quran's. So, what are the other 4 names of those other four readings? You guys didn't mention which one Hatun has more? I love your video's but you guys leave out so many details. And it would be great if you guys place sources and evidence for your statements or claims. For example, where or which source do we use, so we can read the story about Al Hazar university and them dumping these books in the Nile river? It is great if you guys back up with those things you guys say.
Atleast 37 different Quran’s have been well perserved.
I would like to see the collection of tablets in heaven. Allah must have taken years to make all these versions. Can you imagine how much space it would take to store them.
Allahu was Muhammad's creation for all his personal needs and Desires,, if he want anything,, he was delivering message in the name of Allah,,, infact both are one.
The qurans are stored (lodged ) into the forhead of the angel to guard it from satan being able to alter it 😂
Thanks for the truth❤
We must understand that the contentions (or disagreements) over the “Perfect Preservation of the Quran” is a thing of great importance to Muslims. How else can a Muslim assumes his divine human superiority over his fellow human beings if the Quran has been tempered with (or moderated) by man? Allah tells Muslims that they alone, when compared to the rest of mankind, are the superior human beings ever created. Quran 3:110 reads, “You (Muslims) are the best of people ever raised up for mankind.” In Hadith Riyas as-Salihin 1839, Mohammed, the prophet of Islam, explains Quran 3:110: “The best people for mankind are those who bring them (mankind) with chains around their necks till they embrace Islam…”
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Thus, the Muslim must fiercely contend for his human supremacy by insisting the Quran, from God, is a decree that cannot be changed for all eternity. Surely, you do not expect the Muslim to give in to the claim “All men are created equal” - a claim he attributes to a “supposedly” corrupt book?
The fake Book are creations of anti Muslim elements.
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50000 differance not one word 😂😂😂
In The Quran Why -- Common Noun - Fira , Then-- Fira"UUUN Meaning -- a Fira ( Indefinite Noun ) , Fira"AA - Meaning - The Fira , Then --Why Fira"UUN"AA ??? Fira"UUN ( Indefinite Noun ) AAA ( Definite Noun ) , Why Definite and Indefinite Noun Together , In English The a Fira , ??
And yet the Islam apologists said, the Quran is untouchable, unchangeable, or whatever they claimed. 🤔
Surah 85 - says apparently the Quran is on preserved tablets in heaven.
1985 - King Fahd decides the Hafs qirat is the true version on those alleged tablets.
Who published all those other qurans?
Agree 💯
God bless you.
The preserved word in a location, (heavens) could only be the word , kalimatuhu, which would be Esa ibn Maryam ... ?
The direct dialogue between Allah & Esa ibn Maryam has to be above the Heavens ?
... beneath 'Them' are rivers of paradise ....
Furthermore, Esa ibn Maryam has the knowledge of the book , and the hikmah of Torat & Injeel... ie: 3 different subjects ...
the kitaab in here ' Surah Al Maidah ' could only refer to the Qur'an itself ?
Huge !
whats Quran name # 12 , 13 , 14, 15 19 20 , 21 , 23, 24, 25 ?
Fascinating.
Could you also say something about translations, at least into English? I would imagine there are quite a few, muddying the waters even further.
I have no idea what I have, although I did know when I bought mine that there were different translations. I just asked a Muslim friend who claims direct descent from Mohammed which to get some years ago, and ordered the one she gave me a link to.
I’ve sort of known there were some different versions in Arabic, but had zero idea there were so many! It’s mindboggling.
English translation further reflects bias of who produces it. For example, I found one in a book store that interpreted “the Holy Spirit” as “a pure spirit.”
There are in fact "a whole lot of different translations", as you expect there would be: a lot of them are not exactly honest, and attempt to use the "miracle of re-translation" to spin the text into saying less awful things; others aren't necessarily trying to pull a fast one on you, but are "improving the readability" of the text which itself is a deception, since claims of "supernatural eloquence" are made and the Quran... is NOT that, at all.
Generally speaking if you're looking for an accurate translation that's not going to editorialize, you want one made by a non-Muslim.
We must understand that erasers didn’t exist back in Allah’s time, so he just chiseled new tablets and prayed to himself for the best outcome.
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I ❤ Hatun
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Amen to Jesus Christ
You don't know him
Somebody said in an internet forum a long time ago, that in some old Islamic schools, they kept old Qurans, and those Qurans had some differences than the current one. Probably just some human errors when they copied the Qurans but it shows Quran is not perfectly preserved at all.
Fake Books.
wrong its
Thank you exposing lies of Islam and thank you for sharing .
Fruitless
Mr Preacher 👽
Hellelujah 👿✝️🏴☠️💰🍷🐷🔥💯⚰️
Islam is not about faith but comformance and obedience, asking questions is not part of the program.
Don't breathe too hard on the house of cards.
@@defenderoftruth3212 i have heard his "logic". Not capable of rational thought.
There is only 1 original Quran who
Is the author of the other Qurans
WHICH one is the "real" Qur'an? NO MUSLIM KNOWS.
The original one that's way it is good
Know the Authors of the other Qurans
How many bibles
We know the original Quran
@@RafikKhan-ol4zk , don't try to move the goalposts, peanut. there is only ONE Bible in the original Hebrew and Greek. There are 37 DIFFERENT Arabic versions of the Qur'an, with 93,000 variations between them. These variations frequently CONTRADICT each other. GAME OVER, Islam LOSES. AGAIN.
@@RafikKhan-ol4zk , do you? So which of the MANY versions is the "real" one? Hafs? Warsh? Al- Durie? Pick one of the 37 different Arabic versions of the Qur'an and tell us HOW you "know" that it is the "original". LOL!!! Good luck with that!
So Allah was wrong
Allah is wrong about a bunch of stuff, as it turns out: czcams.com/play/PLHjaRUn9mlITq7RbSoLBgdsNnRaoDACS7.html&si=YPr4CmsoQZNoBBtq
I fully expect Muslims to start suggesting that malicious time travelers going back and altering details of the past are to blame for the anachronisms in the "perfect Quran" (I say, only half joking).
Man the your proof is many different colour cover changes. 😂😂😂😂
NOPE. Jay has done MANY videos showing hundreds of variations between different Arabic versions of the Qur'an.
Trinity vs Tawhid (Monotheism)
(Christianity vs Islam)
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Trinity:
Concept: One God in three distinct persons-Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This doctrine is complex and raises questions about how three entities can be one.
Questions:
- How can three distinct entities be one God?
- Why did Jesus, if God, pray to the Father?
- How can an eternal God have a "begotten" son?
- What happens if the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit differ in will?
Complexity: The doctrine's intricacies and potential contradictions can cause doubts and confusion. The divinity of the Holy Spirit was not clearly articulated by early scholars.
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Tawhid (Monotheism) :
Concept: Tawhid, central to Islam, proclaims the absolute oneness of God (Allah). It asserts one Almighty God, beyond human imagination and incomparable.
Attributes: God is eternal, self-sufficient, and the universe's sole creator and sustainer.
Clarity: Tawhid aligns with common sense and human intuition, offering a rational approach free from divided doctrines' complexities.
Harmony: Embracing Tawhid brings spiritual clarity and peace, providing a solid foundation for worship and devotion.
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Summary:
Trinity: A complex doctrine with theological questions and potential contradictions.
Tawhid: A clear, rational, and intuitive understanding of God's oneness, fostering a direct and profound connection with the divine.
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Tawhid offers the beauty and logic of uncompromised monotheism, bringing clarity and understanding to spiritual beliefs.
you speak as a fan of a god, if there is no god your points are like the wind and have no substance.
be a nice man, and reject living like a bully.
A being beyond human imagination and incomparable fits better with the trinity by your description.
Just saying
Tawhid arabic word means unity, union, in union with, in conjucture with. ❗❗❗🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏There is no tawhid in Quran.
Ahad means one of, not mere one. This word al-Lah uses of himself in Q. 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏
Tawhid violates logic though because it specifically asserts God cannot be a trinity. But if a deity cannot be then he is not God.
Imagine I set a fishbowl on a table and I stick three fingers into the water to interact with the fish inside - feeding the fish with one, stirring the water with another, etc. To the fish, my three fingers appear as three separate "persons" even though I am one. How is this possible, you ask? Bounding. The fish are bound within the water. I, however, am not bound withing where they live. I have complete control over whether I want to be in the water and how much so.
Let's assume that God is like Tawhid says - that he cannot be more than one. The only way this holds true is if he is bound - like the fish. In other words, the universe is greater than he is. Thus he cannot truthfully be called Most High, and he is thus not the true God.
Yahweh can be three persons to us because he actually is the Most High God. He is not bound by anything and so he can dwell within our created reality to interact with his people in whatever manner he likes. Why did he choose three? I can tell you that too, but it is a much longer discussion.
ALLAH says in Quran:
And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,
We would have seized him by the right hand;
Then We would have cut from him the aorta.
And there is no one of you who could prevent [Us] from him.
And indeed, the Qur'an is a reminder for the righteous.
And indeed, We know that among you are deniers.
And indeed, it will be [a cause of] regret upon the disbelievers.
(chapter No. 69)
(verse No. 44-50)
How could anyone use this tone for himself...
if thay claim that Muhammad s.a.w wrote Quran by himself.
no god no punishments, although getting poisoned in the myth and suffering great pain before death, and the loss of his son as a baby, and no further male children might be regarded as a great punishment by a god, perhaps the greatest of all?
Also was mohammed not poisoned and said he felt as if his aorta had been cut?
@@milamber2553Yes. It is in sahih al-Bukhari most authentic sources. He did not know🤣 It exposed Qathem prophet of al-Lah false.
You had to report most authentic sources of your prophet to get them removed🤣🤣🤣Otherwise deception will not work for you. Thank god Bible teaches otherwise, stick to Truth .
The Quran says incredibly harsh things of others, so the author would be much practiced in those ways of expression, so could he not say it hypothetically of himself? The quote probably does hint of a background of a bedouin sort, where such behaviour was historically written about, in feuds, however to be fair the more honourable bedouins would not behave thus.
So many different perfectly preserved Qur'ans. This is a true miracle from Allah. (wink wink).
Jesus spoke Aramaic, and the earliest church was in Palestine, specifically in Jerusalem, Israel.
Therefore, they likely spoke Hebrew.
However, by the time the New Testament was written, it was in Greek, resulting in a translation of Jesus' words before they were ever recorded.
Furthermore, the New Testament that endured the longest in the church was not in Greek but in Latin. This means another translation. It remained in Latin for a thousand years before being translated into German, and from German, it was translated into English, giving us the KJV.
Essentially, it's a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation.
You can never translate any content into another language without losing the actual message, tone of speech, or essence. If you read the history of the transformation of languages of the Bible, you will find that almost nothing is left from the original word of God.
what part of the lord's prayer failed to translate its meaning?
"Our Father who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom and the power, and the glory,
forever and ever."
no added words to say how Jesus should be equal to god and prayed for/to like Mhnd in Islamic prayers
The reason why the Jews including Jesus spoke Greek was because they were “Hellenized Jews” so they very much spoke Hebrew/Aramaic and Greek because that was the culture at the time.
Yeshua spoke aramaic, hebrew and greek. 😌😌😌
Greek was the common language, lingua franca, of known world then, language in commerce, work relations, building sites, amongst different nationalities in Galilea where Yeshua grew up etc.
Aramaic was home language.
Tanakh was in aramaic and hebrew . Yeshua was known to be excellent, Perfect, in his Tanakh knowledge.
New Testament (Injeel poor transliteration of greek word evangeliyon) was written down in aramaic and coinic greek. Aramaic for the jews and coinic greek for gentiles.
Bible scolars and translations take authority from earliest manuscripts. Those who want deeper knowledge there are online Bibles in aramaic, hebrew and greek😌😌😌with word explanations and variant meanings of singular words.
No problems.
Why Q translations are so poor??? At-Tawba 9:31 al-Lah requires worship of him and Isa in arabic, but none translation suxceeds to mention it🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏Surely only god is worshipped.ٱتَّخَذُوٓا۟ أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَـٰنَهُمْ أَرْبَابًۭا مِّن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ وَٱلْمَسِيحَ ٱبْنَ مَرْيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓا۟ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُوٓا۟ إِلَـٰهًۭا وَٰحِدًۭا ۖ لَّآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ۚ سُبْحَـٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ ٣١
Thank god Bible translations are not of such poor quality.
Is Jesus God of Mary.??
Or Son of Mary??
Is he Abraham 's God and Adam 's God 😢😂😢
Sehen Sie was in der Welt passiert? Verblendete, taube, blinde, dumme Menschen. Ein tiefes wissen über den wahren ,ewigen, lebendigen Gott Jesus Christus , kann man nur haben wer den Gottes Geist hat. Traurig das der Rest der Menschheit Kinder des Satans sind. Ihr müsst töten, denkt ihr seid besser als andere nicht Muslime.Euer Gott ist, 72 jungfrauen im Himmel. Alkohol, Sex, Kindersex, etc. Was ist das für ein Himmel? Was ist das für ein Gott? Wenn sie noch ein wenig Verstand haben, dann suchen sie die Wahrheit. Es ist ein Kampf gut gegen Böse. Wir sind auf den letzten Weg. Schachfiguren sind weltweit dabei sich auf zustellen. Studieren Sie ihren koran und erkennen das es nicht die Wahrheit ist. Wünsche ihnen Erkenntnis die Wahrheit zu erkennen. Rufen sie von Herzen und fragen wer der wahre Gott ist. Sie werden eine Antwort bekommen. Friede sei mit ihnen.
Please adress the question in correct channel Shamounian. 😌😌😌Shukran. This channel is about 7th century islamic evidence or lack of it.
At-Tawba9:31 arabic al-Lah requires worship of him and Isa son of Maryam. Surely only god is worshipped❗❗❗ٱتَّخَذُوٓا۟ أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَـٰنَهُمْ أَرْبَابًۭا مِّن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ وَٱلْمَسِيحَ ٱبْنَ مَرْيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓا۟ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُوٓا۟ إِلَـٰهًۭا وَٰحِدًۭا ۖ لَّآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ۚ سُبْحَـٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ ٣١
Jesus is The God of mohamed and islamic allah
An-Nisa 4:171 Isa is 1) the messenger (man) 2) the Word of al-Lah (uncreated, holy, sinnless, eternal) 3) the Spirit of al-Lah bestowing from Maryam. -ing ending implies continouous action. The Spirit of al-Lah and the Word of al-Lah are essentially al-Lah, inseparate part of al-Lah. Trinity of Isa in Q, but same aya says "Say no trinity". Contradiction or does just al-Lah prefer that trinity word is not used but accepts the concept otherwise???
Isa was born by al-Lah breathing🌬🌬🌬 his Spirit into virgin Maryams underbody. The Spirit is not Jibreel since elsewhere in Q al-Lah sets angels and the Spirit apart from each other and Jibreel is a angel.
The underbody of Maryam is Ar-Rahm sharing al-Lahs name. Sahih al-Bukhari 5987, book 78 hadith 18. Ar-Rahm was in the beginning and will be in the last hour speaking eloquently (eternal ie. divine). Ar-Rahm is tied to al-Lahs throne according sunnah. Also Isa is according Q with al-Lah in 7 th heaven above the arsch.🪑🪑🪑👑👑👑Ar-Rahman🌬🌬🌬Ar-Rahm=>Ar-Rahman
An-Nisa 4:82 if there is contradiction in revelation then all of it is falsehood.
1. Muslims always add "peace be upon him" after mentioning Jesus' name, unlike Christians who often casually use it.
2. Unlike Christians, Muslims never joke or make fun of Jesus or his mother Mary.
3. We believe in all of Jesus' miracles, including speaking in the cradle, healing the sick, and raising the dead-unlike Christians who may doubt or overlook them.
4. Muslims hold Mary in the highest esteem, unlike Christians who sometimes marginalize her importance.
5. Jesus, in Islam, is revered deeply, not just as a prophet, but as a distinct and honored personality, unlike how some Christians may see him.
6. Unlike Christians, Muslims don't merely acknowledge Jesus; we deeply love and respect him as one of the greatest prophets of God.
7. Muslims eagerly await Jesus' second coming to bring justice and defeat evil, unlike Christians who may not fully comprehend or anticipate this event.
8. Jesus' teachings and miracles are embraced wholeheartedly by Muslims, contrasting with some Christians who may overlook or interpret them differently.
9. Unlike Christians, Muslims believe in the purity of Jesus' message, unaltered by human hands or interpretations.
10. Our reverence for Jesus and Mary surpasses mere admiration; it's a deep and unwavering respect that defines our faith, unlike what some Christians may display.
oh there are writings of Muslims with some very disgusting things about Jesus to belittle him.
The Jesus that Islam talks about however is not the same one Christians talk about.
Muslims also regard Mhnd as greater than god in their words and actions. Allah seems to be the afterthought to give the man power to be evil.
Jesus was the original MHMD
Also @dmisidia you misrepresented a lot in that long winded post
@@kellyprell3206 highlight
@@kellyprell3206 and that Mhnd did not include himself in any prayers. The Catholic Church did many centuries later, but Jesus did not.
There is such huge difference between the two characters at every level you can only conclude there were different gods involved in employing them.
why there is no consensus among Christians on core beliefs and are still debatable..?
1. Isn't that the divinity of Jesus is still debatable among Christians?
2. Isn't that there are varying interpretations and beliefs about Jesus' nature among different denominations and individuals?
3. Isn't that some Christians interpret the Bible literally while others see it as allegorical or symbolic?
4. Isn't that there are different Christian perspectives on salvation and how it is achieved?
5. Isn't that Christians understand the concept of the Trinity, and why do some denominations reject it?
6. Isn't that there are differing views among Christians regarding predestination and free will?
7. Isn't that various Christian denominations understand the nature and role of the Holy Spirit differently?
8. Isn't that some Christians believe in the necessity of baptism for salvation while others see it as symbolic?
9. Isn't that there are different Christian beliefs about the end times and the second coming of Jesus?
10. Isn't that Christians reconcile the existence of suffering and evil with a benevolent and omnipotent God differently?
11. Isn't that there are differing practices among Christian denominations regarding the ordination of women as clergy?
12. Isn't that Christians view the relationship between faith and works in the context of salvation differently?
13. Isn't that interpretations of the Eucharist (Holy Communion) vary among Christian denominations?
14. Isn't that there are differing Christian perspectives on the authority of the Pope and the structure of church leadership?
15. Isn't that Christians view the role of tradition versus scripture in guiding their beliefs and practices differently?
16. Isn't that there are varying beliefs about the nature of Jesus' resurrection among Christians?
17. Isn't that different Christian groups approach the concept of original sin and its impact on humanity differently?
18. Isn't that there is debate over the proper mode of baptism (immersion, sprinkling, pouring) among Christians?
19. Isn't that there are differing views among Christians on how to observe the Sabbath and whether it needs to be on Sunday?
20. Isn't that the role of Mary, the mother of Jesus, in the Christian faith is interpreted differently?
21. Isn't that Christians engage with and interpret modern scientific findings, such as evolution and the age of the earth, differently?
22. Isn't that there are different understandings among Christians about justification and sanctification in the life of a believer?
23. Isn't that Christians understand and respond to homosexuality and same-sex marriage differently?
24. Isn't that there are varying opinions among Christians on the appropriate role of social justice and activism within the faith?
25. Isn't that Christians approach interfaith dialogue and the salvation of those outside the Christian faith differently?
26. Isn't that there are varying views among Christians on the proper role of spiritual gifts (like speaking in tongues, prophecy, and healing) in the modern church?
27. Isn't that Christians approach wealth, poverty, and economic inequality differently?
28. Isn't that there are differing Christian stances on issues like abortion and euthanasia?
29. Isn't that Christians debate on how the church should engage with politics and government?
30. Isn't that the role of confession and repentance in the life of a Christian is understood differently?
31. Isn't that there are different interpretations among Christians on how to apply the teachings of Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount?
32. Isn't that Christians have varying beliefs about the nature of the afterlife, including concepts of heaven, hell, and purgatory?
33. Isn't that Christians understand the relationship between the Old Testament and the New Testament differently?
34. Isn't that the importance and role of the sacraments in the Christian life are interpreted differently?
35. Isn't that Christians address historical and contemporary issues of racial reconciliation differently?
36. Isn't that Christians discern and follow God's will or calling in their life differently?
37. Isn't that Christians have different perspectives on the appropriate response to persecution and suffering for one's faith?
all that you say is whataboutery but it doesn't hide the evidence that the story in the Quran of a person living in Arabia was wholly invented hundreds of years after the fact and redacted in time to fit an agenda to have a Mhnd.
Nor does it hide the fact that the message of Jesus was the call to live in peace, whilst the call of the Mhnd was a call for war and subjugation or removal of any none follower in the land.
I'd rather live as a neighbour to a human willing to live in peace next door than one who dreams of being my master because of a made up book that appeals to their worst side of nature.
Also there are different Muslim tribes and sects who believe differently. Shia and sunni Muslims disagree on what hadiths to follow. One believe mutah marriage legitimate others don't for example. Ahmedis differ in their outlook of Islam and are considered herretcal by other Muslims. Tafsirs disagree with each other or Muslims choose to reject tafsirs that were accepted. I've had people refute ibn Kathir because his view didn't match their narrative. To say all Muslims are the same means isis believe the same as other Muslims which in itself is a scary thought.
WRONG!!! The core dogmata of Christianity are the SAME for ALL Trinitarians. Non-Trinitarians are HERETICS, not Christians. And WHY are you OFF TOPIC??? We are discussing the WILD variations in the Qur'an, NOT the Bible!!!
ISLAM vs CHRISTIANITY
**Monotheism**
- (Islam): Belief in the Oneness of Allah (Tawhid)
- (Christianity): Varied beliefs about the nature of God (e.g., Trinity vs. Unitarianism)
**Prophethood**
- (Islam): Belief in all prophets, with Muhammad as the final prophet
- (Christianity): Varying views on the role and divinity of Jesus, with some denominations emphasizing different prophets
**Revealed Scriptures**
- (Islam): Belief in the Quran as the final revelation, along with other scriptures like the Torah, Psalms, and Gospel
- (Christianity): Diverse interpretations of the Bible, with some taking a literal approach and others seeing it as allegorical or symbolic
**Angels**
- (Islam): Belief in the existence and roles of angels
- (Christianity): Differing views on the nature and role of angels and the Holy Spirit
**Day of Judgment**
- (Islam): Belief in resurrection, judgment, Heaven, and Hell
- (Christianity): Different beliefs about the end times, judgment, and afterlife
**Divine Predestination**
- (Islam): Belief in Allah’s omniscience and divine will, with acknowledgment of human free will
- (Christianity): Varied perspectives on predestination and free will, including debates on Calvinism and Arminianism
**Five Pillars of Islam**
- (Islam): Universally accepted pillars: Shahada, Salah, Zakat, Sawm, Hajj
- (Christianity): No equivalent set of universally accepted practices; different denominations emphasize various sacraments and rituals
**Moral and Ethical Conduct**
- (Islam): Emphasis on honesty, justice, compassion, and mercy
- (Christianity): Differing views on moral and ethical conduct, with various interpretations of Biblical teachings
**Community and Brotherhood (Ummah)**
- (Islam): Strong emphasis on solidarity and unity among Muslims worldwide
- (Christianity): Different denominations and traditions, sometimes leading to significant theological and practical disagreements
**Scripture and Tradition**
- (Islam): Uniform reverence for the Quran and the Sunnah (traditions of Prophet Muhammad)
- (Christianity): Varied views on the authority of scripture vs. tradition, including the role of the Pope and church hierarchy
**Salvation**
- (Islam): Unified belief in following the Five Pillars and Allah’s guidance
- (Christianity): Diverse beliefs about salvation, ranging from faith alone (sola fide) to a combination of faith and works
**Baptism**
- (Islam): No direct equivalent; purification rites exist
- (Christianity): Different views on the necessity, mode, and meaning of baptism
**End Times**
- (Islam): Belief in the signs of the End Times, including the return of Jesus and the appearance of the Mahdi
- (Christianity): Various beliefs about eschatology, including pre-, post-, and amillennial views
**Role of Women**
- (Islam): Generally agreed upon roles with some variations in practice
- (Christianity): Wide range of views on the ordination of women and their roles in church leadership
**Sacraments**
- (Islam): No sacraments, but specific religious practices are universally observed
- (Christianity): Different interpretations and importance of sacraments like the Eucharist, baptism, and confession
**Homosexuality and Marriage**
- (Islam): Generally prohibited in Islamic teachings
- (Christianity): Diverse views on homosexuality and same-sex marriage, ranging from acceptance to rejection
**Social Justice**
- (Islam): Commitment to social justice and helping the poor is emphasized
- (Christianity): Varied opinions on the role of social justice and activism within the faith
**Science and Faith**
- (Islam): Generally seen as compatible with Islam
- (Christianity): Different approaches to reconciling scientific findings with faith, including debates over evolution and creationism
**Rituals and Worship**
- (Islam): Standardized rituals and prayers, such as the five daily prayers
- (Christianity): Various forms of worship and rituals, differing significantly among denominations
**Interfaith Relations**
- (Islam): Respect for the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) and coexistence with other faiths
- (Christianity): Different approaches to interfaith dialogue and the salvation of those outside Christianity
**Spiritual Practices**
- (Islam): Emphasis on Dhikr (remembrance of Allah) and personal supplication (Dua)
- (Christianity): Varied views on the role of spiritual gifts (like speaking in tongues) and personal spiritual practices
**Family and Social Structure**
- (Islam): Strong emphasis on family values and social structure
- (Christianity): Diverse beliefs about the importance of family values and social structures, including views on marriage and divorce
**Purity and Cleanliness**
- (Islam): Importance of physical cleanliness and spiritual purity
- (Christianity): Different emphasis on rituals of purity and cleanliness among denominations
**Wealth and Poverty**
- (Islam): Emphasis on charity (Zakat) and social welfare
- (Christianity): Varied approaches to wealth, poverty, and economic inequality, influenced by different theological interpretations
**Persecution and Suffering**
- (Islam): Belief in enduring persecution and suffering with patience and faith in Allah
- (Christianity): Different responses to persecution and suffering for one's faith, influenced by historical and theological contexts
But study the prophets, they are not like the Quran author. True prophets don't get privileges of an immoral sort, that are "revealed" to be given to the Quran author ("Mohammed"). They don't make themselves partners of Allah, like the Quran author did. They don't alter existing Bible narratives. They make prophecies. (The Quran would suggest a pagan background in part, and from that I believe comes the idea of favourites, as in pagan myths about gods, they have favourites, who they give favours to, but not of a morally good sort. God can favour us, but is not immoral.)
Tawhid indicates a UNIFIED oneness, NOT a simple oneness. Allah is simply a COMPOSTIE of the 360 gods worshipped by Arab pagans.
Lies ,the quran was memoriesed in hearts ,
Memorization is a TERRIBLE way to preserve anything. That is why there are so MANY DIFFERENT Arabic versions of the Qur'an today.
So how did you forget the ONE verse the tame sheep ate?
Where is it?
And why did aisha say many ayahs were lost because people were killed in your wars of hate
@@GedaliahAR , the Islamic sources themselves say that HUNDREDS of verses were LOST from the Qur'an during the civil war that followed Muhammad's death. Muslims conveniently ignore this.
You have a false book.
Yes, the Qur'an is a completely false book.
Hey Jay, wtf does height have to do with anything? It’s sad that you keep mentioning Hatun’s 5’2” stature like it means anything.
“I always believed the mind is the best weapon”
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Islam is a false Prophet's religion , because of "" Maaa Kaaanaaa "" Meaning [ ( See-3 :67 ) (See-3 : 93 ) ( See-44 :31 ) ( See-2 : 34 ) ( See-33 :69 ) ( See- 33 : 40 ) ( See- 19 : 13 ) ] , ???
If "" Maaa Kaaanaaa " Meaning -- Was Not , Then -- Muhammad was a Died Prophet , False Prophet , Past Prophet ,
If "" Maaa Kaaanaaa "" Meaning -- Is Not , Then -- Quran is The Wrong Book , Not The God Book ,
If "" Maaa Kaaanaaa "" Meaning -- Was Not and Is Not ( Both are the same Meaning ) , Then -- All Islamic scholars are the Liar ,
Because of - Past is the Past , Past Never became Present , But -- Only For The God Sametime Was and is are the same meaning , Because of God Never die , God always Life , God has no time Limit ,
In the Quran -- kaaanaa Musa -- the Musa Was , Maaa kaaanaaa Ibraaheem"MUU -- The Ibraaheem Was Not , kaaanaa fira"UUN -- a Fira Was , Kaaanaaa Iblessa - The Ibless Was ,
in This Point-- Maaa Kaaanaaa Muhammad"UUN Meaning -- A Muhammad or A Mh-maaad Was Not ,
Who is the Muhammad in the Quran ???
See-- Quranic Grammar ;-- What is the Meaning of ""Tanween "" " [ UUUUN , IIIIN , AAAAN ] "" in English "" ???
See - Quranic Grammar - Tanween [ UUUUN , IIIIN , AAAAN ] in English "a " & an "
"Tanween ,[ UUUN , IIIN , AAAN ] , Muhammad"UUUN , Muhammad"IIIN , Muhammad"AAAAN,
See-In the Quran had no Word Call - "" Muhammad " But - Then Why In the Quran had or has "" Muhammad"UUUN " and " Muhammad"IIIN " ?? What is the Meaning of "" Muhammad"UUUN and Muhammad"IIIN , Muhammad"AAAAN , Yaahoodiyy"AAAN , Nasaaraaniyy"AAAN , Muslim"AAAN , Muslim"UUUN , Mh-sinai"UUUN , Mh-Shrik "UUUN ,Calf-Fira"UUUN , "" ??
" Arabic Grammar and Quranic Grammar --- To Translate in English "" Yes -- ""UUN " , ""IIIN " , "" AAN " They are Not the Part of The Arabic Prophet's Name But -- If you Translate in English Then ---
Indefinite Nouns ;----
When a Noun is used to refer to an Unspecified or Unidentified Person or thing , it is Called -- the indefinite noun , It usually has tanween [ "" UUN " , " IIIN " , and " AAN " ] at the end of the noun and is Translated in English as "" a " or "" an "
Like -- A Man Arabic --- Rajul ( Common Noun ) and Rajul"UUN" ( Title -- Indefinite Noun ) ,
A Book Arabic ----- Kitaab ( Common Noun ) and Kitaab"UUN" ( Title -- Indefinite Noun ) ,
An Ahad Arabic ------ Ahad ( Common Noun ) and Ahad"UUN " ( Title -- Indefinite Noun ) ,
A Boy Arabic ------ Walad ( Common Noun ) and Walad"UUN" ( Title -- Indefinite Noun ) ,
A Rasool Arabic ------- Rasool ( Common Noun ) and Rasool"UUN" ( Title -- Indefinite Noun ) ,
A Maaadi Arabic --------Maaad ( Common Noun ) and Maaad"UUN" ( Title - Indefinite Noun ) ,
A Mh-maaad Arabic ---Mh-maaad ( Common Noun ) and Mh-maaad"UUN" ( Title - Indefinite Noun ) ,
A Muhammad" Arabic --- Muhammad ( Common Noun ) and - Muhammad"UUN " [ Title -- Surah no-- 33 , Iaaat no-- 40 ] ( Indefinite Noun )
A Muhammad Arabic ---- Muhammad ( Common Noun ) and Muhammad"IIIN " [ Title -- Surah no-- 47 , Iaaat No-- 2 ] ( Indefinite Noun ) ,
A Muhammad Arabic ---- Muhammad ( Common Noun ) and Muhammad"AAAAN [ Title --In the Adhan , durud Sharif , Indefinite Noun ]
A Jew Arabic --- Yaahoodiyy ( Common Noun ) and Yaahoodiyy"AAAN " [ 3 : 67 ] ( Title -- Indefinite Noun ) ,
A Christin Arabic --- Nasaaraaniyy ( Common Noun ) and Nasraaniyy"AAAN [ 3 : 67 ] ( Title -- Indefinite Noun )
A Muslim Arabic --- Muslim ( Common Noun ) Muslim"AAAAN , [ Title -- Indefinite Noun ]
indeed---- In the Quran -- ""UUN " , " IIIN " and " AAN " Meaning -- " A " or " An " [ Indefinite Noun ]
See -- [ surah No-28 , iaaat No--85 See - About Maaad or Maaadi ],
See -- Al Meaning -- Meccan Arabic -- "" The "
Al-Allah Ar-Rahmaan Ar Raheem meaning - The God The Most Gracious The Most Merciful ,
See -- El Meaning --- Egyptian Arabic "" The ""
see -- Al - Allah Meaning -- The God [ Meccan Arabic ] ,
See -- El-Allah Meaning -- The God [ Egyptian Arabic ] ,
See -- Ellah - Raheem = Ellah -Ra-heem = Ellah -heem = Ellaheem = Ellooheem Meaning - The God God Most Merciful ,
-- Maaa Kaaanaa Ibraaaheem"MUU Yahoodiyy""AAAN " [ 3 : 67 ] Meaning -- The Ibrahim was not a Jew ,
In This Point -- Ibraaaheem"UU Meaning -- The Ibrahim ,
Kaaanaaa Meaning -- Was , [ 3 : 67 ] Qul Huwa allahu Ahad"UUUN [ Huwa Meaning -- Is ]
Muhammad"IIIN Meaning -- A Muhammad ( Title -- Indefinite Noun ) But Not a Person's Name , [ 47 : 2 ]
Muhammad"UUUN Meaning -- A Muhammad ( Title -- Indefinite Noun ) But not a person's Name ,[ 33 : 40 ]
Muhammad"AAAN Meaning - A Muhammad ( Title - Indefinite Noun ) But Not a Person's Name , [ In The Adan & In The Duruad Sharif ]
Yahoodiyy"AAAN Meaning -- A Jew ( Title -- Indefinite Nou ) [ 3 : 67 ]
Nasraaniyy"AAN Meaning -- A Christian (Title -- Indefinite Noun ) [ 3 : 67 ] ,
Muslim"AAAN Meaning -- A Muslim ( Title -- Indefinite Noun )[ 3 : 67 ] ,
[ -- Muhammad"UUUN" , Muhammad"IIIN , Muhammad"AAAN ", Yahoodiyy"AAAN ", Nasraaniyy"AAAN " Mh-Sinai"UUUN , Mh-maaad"UUN , Mh-Shrik"UUUN , Mh-bashir"UUUN , Mh-man"UUUN , Meaning -- Not the person's name But the Title , Nation , Group , And indefinite Noun , [ A Muhammad or A Mh-maaad , a Jew , A Christian , A Mh-sinai or Mh-seeen , A Mh- Shriki , A Mh-bashir , , ],,
In The Quran Have Many Prophet's Name Like --
Ibraaheem ( Name of the Prophet's ) -- But -- Ibraaheem"AAA or Ibraaaheem"UUU -- Meaning -- The Ibraaaheem ,
Ishaaq ( Name of the Prophet's ) -- But -- Ishaaq"AAA - Meaning - The Ishaaq ,
Yaqoob ( Name of the Prophet's ) -- But -- Yaqoob"AAA - or Yaqoob"UU -- Meaning -- The Yaqoob ,
In This Point -- If Muhammad is the Name of the Prophet 's Then -- Why In The Quran has No Word Call-- Muhammad"AAA or Muhammad"UUU
Then Why Opposite Like-- Tanween [ UUUN , IIIN , AAAN ] Muhammad"UUUN , IIIN , AAAN ????
But -- In The Quran End of the name of the Prophet's has no "Tanween " -- Like- No -- Ibraaheem"UUUUN , Musa"UUUUN , Harrun"UUUUN , Issua"UUUUN , Dawood"UUUN , Solyman"UUUUN ,
But -- In the Quran has -- Nuha"UUUUN Meaning -- Nation of Nuha , Lut"UUUUN Meaning -- Nation of Lut , Add"UUUN Nation of Add , Fira"UUUN Nation of Fira , Mh-sinai"UUUN Nation of Mount-Sinai , Mh-maaad"UUUUN Meaning -- Nation of Mount-Maaadi ( 28 : 85 ) ,
Truly -- Muhammad of Meccan in the Quran Was Not Exist But in the Quran Surah no-47 , It was Named Called - Al-Qital ( The Fighting ) After That Top Islamic Scholars They Lied , They changed , They Were Put New Named Called - "" Muhammad , But In the Quran -- Surah or Chapter Name "" Muhammad "" and [ Quranic Muhammad"UUUN , Muhammad"IIIN , Muhammad"AAAN ] Both are Completely The Different and The Opposite from each Other ,
[[ Even --, Not Only That Quran Surah No-17 , It Was Called - Bani-Israel , Then - Top Islamic Scholars They Lied , They Were put New Named Al Isra ( The Journey by Night )],,;;;;
Thank you