Lab-Grown "Mini-brains" Perform Non-Linear Computation, Eat Neurotransmitters, & Go To Space

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  • čas přidán 23. 11. 2023
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    Human brain organoids ("mini-brains") are being grown in labs around the world. They're being fed neurotransmitters, competing with AI to solve non-linear equations, and going to space to study the effects of microgravity. This video reviews three preprints, preliminary reports of new scientific studies. (My AI voice caught a cold this week.)
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    Preprints:
    - Brain Organoid Computing for Artificial Intelligence (Cai et al.) www.biorxiv.org/content/10.11...
    - Modulation of neuronal activity in cortical organoids with bioelectronic delivery of ions and neurotransmitters (Park et al.) www.biorxiv.org/content/10.11...
    - Studies on the International Space Station to assess the effects of microgravity on iPSC-derived neural organoids (Marotta et al.) www.biorxiv.org/content/10.11...
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    -SpaceX: CRS-19 Mission • CRS-19 Mission
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    -todo314: Henon attractor • Henon attractor
    Other Media:
    -Resting potential image: openstax.org/books/biology-2e...
    -GPU slide: 15418.courses.cs.cmu.edu/sprin...
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Komentáře • 56

  • @GeoffryGifari
    @GeoffryGifari Před 8 měsíci +46

    Make them pass butter and I'll be impressed

    • @obelysk4209
      @obelysk4209 Před 3 měsíci +2

      PR: what is my purpose?
      R: to pass the butter.
      PR: oh god!

  • @Myblogband
    @Myblogband Před 8 měsíci +10

    If math wasn't torture enough, now the brains have to do it in a petri dish... sounds familiar, like school.

  • @LemonsRage
    @LemonsRage Před 7 měsíci +11

    And here we arer going full circle. Naturally developed brains develope devices running on anorganic matter just to discover that organic matter is just better. I am sure they will just add to this and discover a fully automated version of an organoid some day in the future. To make it easier they will encase it in a hard shell, give it limbs to interact and sensors to understand. Then after many iterations they will end up at humans

    • @esatacikgoz2016
      @esatacikgoz2016 Před 3 měsíci

      thats never gonna happen because a human contains one thing that cannot be replicated with developing body parts from stem cells ii soul

    • @mgmchenry
      @mgmchenry Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@esatacikgoz2016fascinating. So when they make the humans with no souls and compare them to the ensouled humans, maybe they'll finally see where you're hiding those people things and make sure they get attached in the future

    • @TheRealityWarper08
      @TheRealityWarper08 Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@esatacikgoz2016
      So you decide who does and does not have a soul?

  • @kaorudragneel8498
    @kaorudragneel8498 Před 8 měsíci +15

    Love seeing my instructor become a successful CZcamsr with sponsorships. Keep up the great work. I always look forward to learning from your videos.

  • @marko.p.radojcic
    @marko.p.radojcic Před 2 měsíci +3

    Fewer rounds of training and just the complexity of the system. Thank you for sharing, this is amazing

  • @degariuslozak2169
    @degariuslozak2169 Před 8 měsíci +18

    This channel is so underrated♥

  • @WeAreTheDraiken
    @WeAreTheDraiken Před 8 měsíci +10

    Next phase of developing computers.
    Gonna wait till this is oeer reviewed to state my opinions , I'm really hoping that the increased maturity due to space travel is true. Cause my childhood self just wanna say Cosmic Rays or something.(even though I know the space shuttles are shielded.😅)

  • @pinguin00o73
    @pinguin00o73 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wow never knew the human vs computer processing battle is still raging on.

  • @professorstevepotter
    @professorstevepotter Před 26 dny

    Great stuff!
    Cai's brain-o-ware was published in Nature Electronics: Article
    Published: 11 December 2023
    Brain organoid reservoir computing for artificial intelligence
    Hongwei Cai, Zheng Ao, Chunhui Tian, Zhuhao Wu, Hongcheng Liu, Jason Tchieu, Mingxia Gu, Ken Mackie & Feng Guo
    Nature Electronics volume 6, pages1032-1039 (2023)

  • @dankduck
    @dankduck Před 8 měsíci +2

    Hey watched your videos last year glad to find this channel again

  • @henrygingercat
    @henrygingercat Před 8 měsíci

    Brilliantly presented - thanks.

  • @FunkyJeff22
    @FunkyJeff22 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Do these mini brains have everything a human brain does, like a hippocampus and occipital cortex, but miniature?

    • @ihmcurious
      @ihmcurious  Před 8 měsíci +20

      Nope! They're relatively disorganized blobs of brain tissue. Check out this video for more of an introduction: czcams.com/video/u6FGq7_t3Eo/video.html

    • @unk4617
      @unk4617 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@ihmcuriousis there a scenario where we can grow these blobs with that level of organisation
      If so does that mean we'll ne stuck with the types of regions in the brain or will we be able to make a "brainoid" with regions for more specialised tasks ?

    • @giakolou2876
      @giakolou2876 Před 8 měsíci

      @@ihmcuriousuhm hey, the discord link doesn’t work… u got a fresh one maybe?

    • @ihmcurious
      @ihmcurious  Před 8 měsíci

      Refreshed

    • @ihmcurious
      @ihmcurious  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Specialization and new brain regions never before imagined are possible

  • @poppysilver
    @poppysilver Před 8 měsíci +12

    this is horrifying

    • @Mr.BrainMeat
      @Mr.BrainMeat Před 8 měsíci +4

      I’m like this is terrible! Show me more 👀👀👀

    • @nulled7888
      @nulled7888 Před 8 měsíci +3

      How is this horrifying lol

    • @blahblah367
      @blahblah367 Před 8 měsíci

      ​​@@nulled7888 yeah, same. it's hurting my head trying to understand

    • @infiniteapex8762
      @infiniteapex8762 Před 4 měsíci

      @@nulled7888exacly lol

    • @fraternitas5117
      @fraternitas5117 Před měsícem

      I have a difficult time holding back vomit thinking over this

  • @jujuoof174
    @jujuoof174 Před měsícem

    Very well-explained and interesting!

  • @liteseve
    @liteseve Před 8 měsíci

    "[...] brew beer in space. Both admirable goals" 😂 I feel you

  • @Chad-ie4wl
    @Chad-ie4wl Před 8 měsíci

    Well done

  • @Cyclically
    @Cyclically Před 8 měsíci +2

    I swear to god that thumbnail is making me see things

  • @ablazedguy
    @ablazedguy Před 3 měsíci

    Why doesn't Anheuser-Busch start with brewing beer on Earth before doing it in space? Shouldn't they first start with the easier process?

  • @minefacex
    @minefacex Před 3 měsíci

    As a computer engineer I want to go back and do brain related grad as well now 😂

  • @Bassnerd
    @Bassnerd Před 7 měsíci

    soon you’ll be able to enjoy a nice cup of coffee, plug into your brain, and enjoy the video game Scorn.

  • @peterlin5145
    @peterlin5145 Před 8 měsíci

    very exciting stuff!

  • @ghostagent3552
    @ghostagent3552 Před 8 měsíci +15

    hold on a minute... does this imply that we *could* potentially teach people math problems this way?
    If so, we literally just created the basis of installable knowledge

    • @slasheffecttech
      @slasheffecttech Před 8 měsíci +3

      matrix moment

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Looks like it

    • @TheLolzKnight
      @TheLolzKnight Před 8 měsíci +16

      No, probably not. Molecular geneticist here (Biologist). The way these organoids are taught to do problems is by having them attach to certain electrodes, which then feed them electrical pulses. The electrical response to these signals is then measured at another electrode, and when the neurons working together give us a response we like (the right answer) we reward them chemically, causing the neurons to plastically change connections so they produce the signals we like.
      The thing is your brain doesn't work that way. When we see a math problem, it passes from our eyes to our brain as visual information, then our brain decodes the meaning via the cooperation of millions of neurons. You don't have one nerve that carries all of the math problem as easy to read pulses for the organoid to attach to. It's spread through your whole brain. The same goes for the answer, the only time that ALL the information comes together again is when your brains starts trying to communicate it. Which is again a task done by thousands of neurons.
      On top of that, even if we could figure out how to attach it in one person, it would only work for one person. General brain structure is conserved across all humans. But the exact placement of neurons is not. Imagine two identical valleys that are settled twice be different people. You'd probably get similar cities, but the exact place each building and shop is put would probably be quite different
      On top of that there is the practical issue: doing brain surgery on yourself to avoid doing math homework is probably not worth it.

  • @Monorat
    @Monorat Před 3 měsíci

    So have these guys grown big, and then make a bunch of AI robots too, and then have them fight and beat AI

  • @contasfinalcontasfinal
    @contasfinalcontasfinal Před 8 měsíci

    cool 😎

  • @howrandy
    @howrandy Před 2 měsíci

    how long to grow ??.. how long they will survive ??..

  • @kindpotato
    @kindpotato Před 8 měsíci

    This research will be very cool until its scary.

  • @sashakoshka
    @sashakoshka Před měsícem +1

    the big problem with replacing digital neural networks with biological ones is that digital ones can store their state once trained and be duplicated infinitely as long as you have enough hardware. biological networks must be trained individually. until brains can be copy pasted this approach will not be viable.

  • @billburgess9100
    @billburgess9100 Před 18 dny

    What could happen if the mini-brain cells was harvested from the brain of a serial killer ?

  • @ihmcurious
    @ihmcurious  Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hey, who's here for class? What class is it? Welcome, class!

  • @Charlie-Em
    @Charlie-Em Před 8 měsíci +1

    This is pretty badass but I hope the bad guys don't get it

  • @megathe2136
    @megathe2136 Před 5 měsíci

    The WAU.

  • @immortalityIMT
    @immortalityIMT Před 8 měsíci

    They are going to beat A.I. hands down!

  • @lecrowpus.
    @lecrowpus. Před 8 měsíci +1

    ❤🎉🎉
    First

  • @scotchjones9048
    @scotchjones9048 Před 13 dny

    ah sweet , man made horrors within my comprehension

  • @isaacwellborn
    @isaacwellborn Před 16 dny

    Spy Kids

  • @SirChucklenutsTM
    @SirChucklenutsTM Před 8 měsíci

    Head cheee

  • @jitterdaoc9512
    @jitterdaoc9512 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The only thing more next generation than 7:44 would be Bitcoin. Thank me later. Or fly a rocket to turn back time and send me some from the past.