I know I'm 3 years late but I hope you see this at least. I am a math student and we use either LaTeX or handwriting for our assignments because those are the easiest and obvious choices (for things like Topology, Real Analysis, Abstract Algebra, etc). A friend of mine tried doing hers in word and she hated it, it took so much time and it wasn't worth it. But the royal pain in my ass is this guy that insists on using Google Docs. It makes me hate him more. And he thinks it's not worth it to learn TeX because that is "too hard". He wants to go to law school. Go figure.
It really seems lke you're misleading your viewers by stacking the positives in Latex's favour - there are some clear differences from the two files that have absolutely nothing to do with the functional differences of the programs. I'd like to point out some of these differences: 1. Indentation: In doc 1, you have left indentation on all text. In doc 2, you only have left indentation on text body but centre indentation on title/headings. 2. Font type: Doc 1 and doc 2 simply have different font types. 3. Font style: Doc 1 has bold headings, doc 2 has bold and underlined headings. As I said, you've stacked the odds. A completely fair analysis would control these variables so that indentation, font type and font style (among other things) are equal. We want to examine functional differences and stylistic differences arising purely from those functional differences.
Max Cresswell-Turner I think the point is That Latex is easier to achieve those results. I don’t know latex but I am considering learning it after fighting with word for so long just to make a simple paper that was about 30 pages long. The formatting was very difficult and this seems like it would dramatically simplify my life.
@@tainicon4639 the ootb latex and ootb word templates are different and were created differently. In word you can just download the latex template and that's it you have a document in latex. But it latex imagine what you would need to do in order to make it look like word
the content in WORD is easily fixed by making the fonts smaller and/or changing the fontstyle. Furthermore, in word when you click on a chapter it will also jump to that chapter in the report. so based on that, they are the same thing (i.e. word and latex), or did i miss something? ALso, they layout in the report can easily be changed, it is not a fixed thing what you are talking about. just outliine everything and make the fonts smaller...the headers can be aligned to the left. and you can make that scientific-looking layout your default setting by 4 to 5 clicks in word. i am still not convinced to be honest. because i see you write some 'code' in order to make some text bold and it goes something like this boldfs{xxxxtext} then it is bold fonts in the brackets.....dunno why someone would write so much in order to do something what can be done in WORD in matter of a click....did i miss something?
Reformatting Word documents can eat literally hours of your life... It can ignore your formatting and change your settings between paragraphs, etc, etc, etc.
I don't even use LaTeX... But I have made plenty of newsletters and other things, and Word is horrible for that. For professional use, you end up writing things in Word, then typesetting them in something less horrible like Word Perfect.
>If it was that bad of a word processor it wouldn't get so much use. Well that's the thing with LaTeX, it's a little more difficult to pick up but after learning Python it's really quite simple compared to what you need to know to write in a basic scripting language. However, word is just more intuitive than writing a script and so most people will default to that. Just be careful not to make a "crowds are never wrong " kind of fallacy, people use word becuase it's easy but not because it's good. If you're writing in Word with multiple figures then placing them where you need to can be an adventure, you need to be able to really understand how to use word to get it to play along with you. It's not bad and if you prefer it, that's okay, but I don't want to learn Word that much in-depth. I think that LaTeX documents have a certian uniqueness to them which tips you off that the person writing it took the time to master a set of skills which a lot of people would forgo, which I think is an indicator of something as well. That's why you get the smugness surrounding it like a bunch of Dark Souls players. (Of which, I am.) Not to mention that in LaTeX the document is already formatted for you so you can just write. The time you spend learning how to use it is time invested and returned when you don't need to do that in the future. It's just better.
ZENNology of Everything I switched to LaTeX 3 years ago and never looked back. Whenever I am forced to do anything in Word, I am horrified. I worked in Word for 10 years and was pretty good at it. And I was sold on LaTeX after 2 hours of using it.
Latex is over hyped. It’s good for equations. But if you were doing a book -the amount of coding is horrendous. Or download a template someone has created.
Convinced to try
Hi, Max. Great content :) Could you please provide a link to the "Fancy Thesis.PDF" latex template?
Thanks
LaTeX is AWESOME! I think one has to have used both MS word and LaTeX to experience the difference.
Is latex platform independent??
That's great, thank you very much. Could you please send me the the latex template of that thesis?
Thanks :)
fancy thesis link bitte pls
I know I'm 3 years late but I hope you see this at least. I am a math student and we use either LaTeX or handwriting for our assignments because those are the easiest and obvious choices (for things like Topology, Real Analysis, Abstract Algebra, etc). A friend of mine tried doing hers in word and she hated it, it took so much time and it wasn't worth it. But the royal pain in my ass is this guy that insists on using Google Docs. It makes me hate him more. And he thinks it's not worth it to learn TeX because that is "too hard". He wants to go to law school. Go figure.
Good story :)
It really seems lke you're misleading your viewers by stacking the positives in Latex's favour - there are some clear differences from the two files that have absolutely nothing to do with the functional differences of the programs. I'd like to point out some of these differences:
1. Indentation: In doc 1, you have left indentation on all text. In doc 2, you only have left indentation on text body but centre indentation on title/headings.
2. Font type: Doc 1 and doc 2 simply have different font types.
3. Font style: Doc 1 has bold headings, doc 2 has bold and underlined headings.
As I said, you've stacked the odds. A completely fair analysis would control these variables so that indentation, font type and font style (among other things) are equal. We want to examine functional differences and stylistic differences arising purely from those functional differences.
Max Cresswell-Turner I think the point is That Latex is easier to achieve those results. I don’t know latex but I am considering learning it after fighting with word for so long just to make a simple paper that was about 30 pages long. The formatting was very difficult and this seems like it would dramatically simplify my life.
@@tainicon4639 the ootb latex and ootb word templates are different and were created differently. In word you can just download the latex template and that's it you have a document in latex. But it latex imagine what you would need to do in order to make it look like word
I agree with this. The same basic stylistic choices had to be made. It's not like in word it takes long to change the justification or underlining.
the content in WORD is easily fixed by making the fonts smaller and/or changing the fontstyle. Furthermore, in word when you click on a chapter it will also jump to that chapter in the report. so based on that, they are the same thing (i.e. word and latex), or did i miss something?
ALso, they layout in the report can easily be changed, it is not a fixed thing what you are talking about. just outliine everything and make the fonts smaller...the headers can be aligned to the left. and you can make that scientific-looking layout your default setting by 4 to 5 clicks in word.
i am still not convinced to be honest.
because i see you write some 'code' in order to make some text bold and it goes something like this boldfs{xxxxtext} then it is bold fonts in the brackets.....dunno why someone would write so much in order to do something what can be done in WORD in matter of a click....did i miss something?
(SOrry, forgot to add: Thanks for the video, you got my 'thumbs up', danke )
Reformatting Word documents can eat literally hours of your life... It can ignore your formatting and change your settings between paragraphs, etc, etc, etc.
I don't even use LaTeX... But I have made plenty of newsletters and other things, and Word is horrible for that. For professional use, you end up writing things in Word, then typesetting them in something less horrible like Word Perfect.
>If it was that bad of a word processor it wouldn't get so much use.
Well that's the thing with LaTeX, it's a little more difficult to pick up but after learning Python it's really quite simple compared to what you need to know to write in a basic scripting language. However, word is just more intuitive than writing a script and so most people will default to that. Just be careful not to make a "crowds are never wrong " kind of fallacy, people use word becuase it's easy but not because it's good.
If you're writing in Word with multiple figures then placing them where you need to can be an adventure, you need to be able to really understand how to use word to get it to play along with you. It's not bad and if you prefer it, that's okay, but I don't want to learn Word that much in-depth.
I think that LaTeX documents have a certian uniqueness to them which tips you off that the person writing it took the time to master a set of skills which a lot of people would forgo, which I think is an indicator of something as well. That's why you get the smugness surrounding it like a bunch of Dark Souls players. (Of which, I am.)
Not to mention that in LaTeX the document is already formatted for you so you can just write. The time you spend learning how to use it is time invested and returned when you don't need to do that in the future. It's just better.
ZENNology of Everything I switched to LaTeX 3 years ago and never looked back. Whenever I am forced to do anything in Word, I am horrified. I worked in Word for 10 years and was pretty good at it. And I was sold on LaTeX after 2 hours of using it.
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Latex is over hyped. It’s good for equations. But if you were doing a book -the amount of coding is horrendous. Or download a template someone has created.
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