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I suspect the odd ankles were a compromise to keep the wheels off of the ground in robot mode without adding more parts to them. I heard a rumor somewhere (forgot where) that the initial plan for an earth mode Magnus was to use the Earthrise Prime tooling as the inner robot, but the plan either didn't work out mechanically or went over budget. I agree that the siege spoiler one is totally worth the ~$30, especially because it manages to pack in a more detailed deco, extra guns, effects, and the pink Rung over the Kingdom one. I personally prefer the latter's head, though.
I heard about that rumor as well and it would’ve been awesome to have a white Optimus with extra armor. I bet it would’ve also been the basis to a Galaxy upgrade 2.0. Guess it got canned due to the pandemic screwing up everything
@@BallisticGhast6 same
@incoherentbabbler thanks for mentioning that about the ankles and wheels.. totally can see that and makes sense. I was just looking at mine the other day and wondering why the heck they did the ankles like that.. I wish they would have engineered to rotate the wheels out of the way
I agree with most of what you’ve said here
@@BallisticGhast6 similar I think to the rumor that Earthrise Megatron would’ve been a new mold. Pandemic stuff definitely messed with that line the most
It's a decent B tier Siege mold forced to be an F tier Kingdom mold.
I agree
Agreed dude
Do this:
czcams.com/video/s0VK32fDGeE/video.html
Now the alt mode is okay
Couldn't have said it any better
agree
I told this same story on The Lazy Eyebrow's video on this mold.
I got my Spoiler Siege Magnus on BBTS since it was on sale, and never even considered the Kingdom one due to the weird alt mode, or the regular Siege one, since I was a big fan of the Netflix paint jobs at the time
Looking back, this mold suits a Cybertron mode WAY fucking better than an Earth mode, and I only plan on getting the original Siege version since it has brighter colors and the SG one since I really dig the Delta Magnus look.
The Kingdom version is more 86 movie/cartoon accurate, but the Siege version just looks better (minus the battle damage).
Moooom, everyone's hating on my favourite figure...
*Again*
I agree with the alt modes. The kingdom one needed some heavy retooling in order to get it right. However I think that the kingdom looks so much better in Robot mode. The chunkiness really works and the overall proportions (especially the shoulders) looks so much better to me. Plus the shades of the colours and that head-sculpt. “Chefs kiss”.
Yeah, I like the head on Kingdom Maggie, but not only did it manage to inherit a lot of problems form the Siege version but also managed to make some of them worse (like the visible robot kibble in truck mode). Really we would've gotten an Earth mode Magnus after Legacy as a commander class figure instead, at that pricepoint HasTak could probably come up with something on par with the Masterpiece release, maybe even better in some aspects. His slot in Kingdom could've gone to something like a Doubledealer with improved legs or even a re-release of SIege Shockwave.
I feel like Magnus will need a Commander budget to pull off properly tbh.
Worked for MotorMaster.
And hes getting it
Good news
@deathwingrocks5301fr
Update: they did and it sucks still
Im really hoping Studio Series 86 gives us a Combiner Wars retool down the line like Arcee retooled from T30s (even though subjectively worse now)
They can do a new figure with ER Optimus as a base
It's gonna be a completely new figure.
The 86 turned out even better since he's the Masterpiece figure but downscaled.
Fun fact, the butt bumper is removable. Only requires. A slight flex. I own both of these and the kingdom mag is my preference. He’s there to be g1 magnus on my 86 autobot shelf. He could be a lot better, but I don’t hate him.
Same for me more or less
Lol, I'm the exact opposite. I hated this figure at first. I have both figures shown in this video. I got the spoiler version first, I got the kingdom version in hopes that the G1 look and lack of "battle damage" would do it for me......no dice. Then one day I was moving some figures around and picked up the kingdom one. I put him on a shelf with his "86" homies. I realized he looks good. He's nice and chunky and moves around pretty good to be so chunky and bulky. I like this figure now. I do agree with you on the alt modes. Thanks for the video brother.
If they do a studio series 86 of Ultra Magnus, I pray they make a whole new mold
They're supposed to be making a Commander Class version.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio That
Sounds Quite Pricey By Comparison.
Eventhough STAKS Hauler IS
Quite Difficult For Collectors
To Find Reasonable Thesedays,
It MIGHT Be A More Reasonable
Option For SOME Collectors!!
That is, UNLESS They Decide To
Remold Magnus' Original G1-Shell?
They did it
@@shockwavethewarlock
I Saw & Fell in Love💕with
His G1-Hauler... Though Not
Quite Sure On His Bot Mode?
As I Thoroughly Enjoyed BOTH
SIEGE & Kingdom (White Primes).
Now IF Those Could FIT INTO
His 80's Inspired Shell🐚.....
Your wish has been granted, my friend. Enjoy
It always feels weird being the one person who still likes a figure even with all its flaws… though the problems with Magnus really are all over the place, that I cannot deny.
Same, I enjoy it, especially kingdom. I just dont understand the hate
I really hope that the SG Magnus fixes the hips. It's the only thing that I REALLY dislike about this mold, and I love the shattered glass Magnus deco
Great video and review! I was thinking about getting one of the war for Cybertron Magnus's but didn't know if any of the molds were good
The loose gun in the hand and the offset hip ratchets might just be your copy. I haven't had either of those problems on my kingdom magnus.
mine has those issues too
The loose gun in the hand was mostly my fault for turning it from side to side abit too much in angles. But I think the hip ratchets might just be a copy issue, since many issues people have with particular characters like SS86 Jazz I don't have.
To further the homage to RID Magnus, those black guns are supposed to be pegged in where you have his missiles currently in vehicle mode.
I have the siege Magnus and I’m getting the shattered glass version due to I love the line and a few of customization options are nice. I can only guess the “MP” version is a throwback to something at an affordable cost but why not use the siege or Earthrise as an Optimus
I highly recommend upgrade kit tbh. It’ll probably make experience better imo ,and I don’t regret buying it for mine at all.
Wow... that's a lot of issues yours has... did I get a Kingdom Magnus that passed QC with flying colors?
my Spoiler Magnus I got for like 20 bucks from a barging store, and the only issue is one of the pauldrons just refuses to fit right... still 100% worth it though!
I can understand your issues with the kingdom mold, but I don't agree with it. doesn't feel flimsy at all to me, though I try to be gentle with my figures ever since my prowl windshield had the hinges snap at the base.
Yes but have you tried swapping armor? I'm meh on these toys too but I have since donated the Kingdom armor to the Siege core Magnus and I really like this combo. It improves the vehicle mode, makes no significant change on armored mode and the Siege core Magnus just looks better. Also gave Siege core the "earthmode" wheels. Its helped me enjoy the mold anyhow.
The funny thing about the earthrise version when you look at behind the scenes info he was going to use the earthrise prime mold but modified
4:12 i have a similar problem with my earthrise magnus
I got the spoiler pack one in the same sale, the second transformer I ever bought, it was totally worth it though after handling kingdom Magnus I agree with you
I love the damaged version one. It's the only Siege Ultra Magnus I have and it worked out perfectly, since I got him for 35 usd on BBTS, and then down the line I also got Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime (a retool of the mold), Shattered Glass Ultra Magnus whom I now use as Delta Magnus, a completely separate character, Nova Prime (a retool of Galaxy Upgrade Optimus), and finally 86 Ultra Magnus as my ultimate Earth Mode Ultra Magnus.
Thank goodness I only have 1 of the Magnus mold and it's the Earthrise one which is close to the G1 and I still haven't opened it since getting for myself during Christmas lol.
2:36 has the Super Robot mode for Magnus with the wrong crotch plate (though with Kingdom's being upside-down to emulate the Sunbow model maybe that's not a bad thing)
I’ve never had that loose weapon issue on the three of the mold I have. I have Kingdom, had Siege, and have Galaxy Prime and no issues with the hands holding anything.
There is a special trick to removing the backpack off the core magnus bot. Removing the backpack also then helps for the complete magnus mode and allows the legs to have more articulation
Another issue I had with the spoiler magnus was that the mushroom pegs for the hips were so bad the leg kept falling off on one side whenever I would try to pose or transform it. Totally agree that this figure stopped being fun pretty quickly.
I really like the regular Siege version, especially with the leg upgrades that make him a lot less stumpy (it looks wonky in pics, but the proportions are pretty much fine in hand). I enjoy the alt mode, though I wish he could actually hold cars in his trailer.
The spoiler pack one is the worst use of the mold tbh, the colors and battle damage are so bad, especially considering this is supposed to be the premium deco.
Kingdom does not work at all, especially in alt mode. It should have been a new mold, the Siege Cyberstylization really clashes with the traditional 86 style.
SG and Galaxy Prime seem okay, I don’t care about them, but the mold works for them.
He can hold a small car in his trailer but you have to open it from the side and slip it in that way. Definitely not optimal.
So toy guy do you recommend the one with battle damage or the same version of it that doesn’t have battle damage? aka the siege one
I’ve felt for a while that the combiner wars mold was superior and more conceptually interesting. Man, I wish hasbro would do the mechsuit for minimus ambus thing again
@deathwingrocks White Optimus isn’t really a bad thing per say
@deathwingrocks well technically it is
@deathwingrocks5301Well without the Albino Prime, to _me_ it isn't Magnus. Magnus is Albino Prime with armor in my eyes.
Ultra Magnus needs the leg extensions, though. I mean, it’s nice having same-scale red and white Optimus Primes, but the leg extensions help out greatly when armored up.
Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus (not Thrilling 30) *does* have a core robot. It's a little micromaster-sized car that transforms into a robot that pilots UM like a Gundam. It's awesome. Just wish it attached to the altmode more securely.
I haven't bought any Magnus's since the Siege line and the one I have is a 3rd upgrade that's bigger than the official version on offer here. But I did buy 3 Shattered Glass versions though, one for S.G., one for a Diaclone/Delta head and one for keepsake but yeah...
my kingdom magnus had such a loose shoulder that it couldnt hold its own weight. The frustrating part is i had to break it to take it apart because there is a little glued in tab keeping the shoulder together even though its screwed on. I also had the loose gun issue, but i used a slight coat of superglue to tighten it
I put quite a bit of acrylic paint into the hip joints and one layer of silver on the gun handle, and it really made things much better on my Siege version. I'd still sell it if it was worth anything though. Not my favorite.
A stance angle is for vehicle mode apparently, so it can roll
The thing with the feet is because if they were flat either it couldn't roll in alt-mode or it would roll in robot mode. There is a 3D printed upgrade kit which I got which makes them flat, but it can just roll back and forwards now, which although amusing is odd.
Tightening the ratchets in the hips is a very easy fix. I used the paper off a crayon to strengthen the ratcheting system
I don’t know if you have two lemons or I have the 1 good copy, but my Kingdom Magnus hasn’t had any of the issues you’ve mentioned. The ratchets are still going strong, the tabs are solid and it’s super easy to get it into truck mode, and I did the fix where you put the forearm armor onto the hands which hides them quite nicely. However I do wish the cab articulated separately from the trailer, the little kid inside me wants to make the big truck drive around corners and not just in a straight line
Just a question, would you recommend cybertron override or crosswise?
I'm going the Lazy Eyebrow route. I have the Perfect Effect Core Magnus on the way, and then I'll be tracking down a T30 ultra Magnus
I know you mentioned that upgrade kits make the figure feel lanky, but I have the DNA Design Upgrade kit for Siege Magnus and it doesn't feel lanky in the least! Actually he feels much more proportionate to me, save for the feet. I will always recommend it, but I understand your reluctance
This Toy single handedly got me back into Transformers. It has its issues during transformation but man that is one fine chunky robot!
Did you do a video on $50 coronation starscream?
the backpack can be rather easily removed when you turn the waist at certain angle so I just consider it as part of the armor
The feet sculpted at an angle alone would drive my OCD nuts.
You forgot to flip around the croch piece
I own the Kingdom version and what I can say about it is that it looks amazing when next to my other 86 movie figures but when I'm just messing around with it I feel as if somethings off. I think it's his legs, I've seen extention kits and they make his legs way to long, so idk maybe I'm just picky. Still going to get that SG Powered Convoy though.
My Kingdom Ark's ratchet joints have exploded as well with the figures right arm ratchet is gone, snapped off, melted off, I don't know. It now lives in Ark Mode.
Coincidentally, I just got the Seige SPOILER Magnus on Father's day for the same reason, it was on sale on BBTS, (though I had to pay almost 40 american dollars, the other Magnus's would've cost me about 57, almost 80 for the Premium Finish version) I've been waiting 3 years to get my hands on a Magnus, any Magnus, I'm happy with the one I got. Thankfully I've got no issues with the figure (unless you want to count the fact that out of the box the panels on his arm guards didn't want to tab In, but after messing with them for the day and a half I've owned this figure, they want to work properly.)
If you attach Kingdom Ultra Magnus' wrist armour to the fists it makes the vehicle mode look much better.
Exactly! Just put the peg that goes in the arm in the hole in the fist instead. Thanks for mentioning this!
Did you review Galaxy Upgrade Optimus? I thought that was a fun little figure…
6:09 I present: Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus.
I don't think the titanium one partsforms either. And the G1 one only really splits into the armour and truck so I don't rly think that's partsforming either
Ok 2 things. 1. The shin guns were released with magnus first then released later with galaxy upgrade so if it was meant for galaxy upgrade then case of pretooling. 2 and this is my opinion of the feet which if they could keep the feet straight then just have the wheels to flip underneath them thus having the wheels on the inner leg/foot region to keep them off the ground.
Thats why i bought bootleg version of that um. Considering that bootleg is bigger it cost only like 25 usd with shipping here in the philippines. The hasbro one is almost as same height of the recent release galvatron, it doesnt look good.
I’m actually still ok with this mould I do prefer the kingdom ver. because it’s more g1 accurate so I can display him with my 86 collection and I do appreciate how you can lift the backpack up just to get it out of the way a little bit
The only way the pre ankle tilt has made sense to me is when in robot mode you tab his legs together the wheels sit on the ground and you can roll him around like the g1 magnus
I bought my kingdom magnus, and i love it. The legs are a bit loose on mine when armor is on, but can still hold poses, gun sucks, but is still love it. Sucks to hear that kingdom magnus broke on ya.
Pro tip: put the armor sleeves in the hand pegs backwards to cover the fists
Now I don't feel silly for getting the TAKARA LEGENDS (COMBINER WARS) Ultra Magnus with the KuBianBao Core bot instead of the new versions. Thank you, TheLazyEyebrow!
I was going to say you forgot to flip the waste piece but I see you later in the video you actually did fix that so
I've got Kingdom Ultra Magnus. Think you got a bad copy because my legs dont rattle or have the weird ratchet issue.
For truck mode I put the rockets on top of the cab, and use the arm covers over the hands to hide them and it looks alot better.
My Kingdom Magnus' legs are perfectly fine
The headsculpt without the ultra magnus armor is quite beautiful I must say.
I actually had an issue recently with my spoiler Rung where he ball joint socket on his leg just fell apart
Nice review, but I think it’s a mileage may vary because my versions are really good
I too, have both the Siege Netflix and Kingdom Ultra Magnus figures. Not out to play, just in their box packaging in my collection. They still look cool to me.
-Oh yeah, there's that 1:59 Optimus Prime version from Takara Tomy. Honestly don't get what it's suppose to be either.
what wait what just happened to ratchets and how, also which version should i buy?
The back back on the smaller figure is a problem as when in armour mode it has to be pushed down and with the chunky legs..This means the character cannot move the knees back. The upgrade kit leads to more problems as it holds nothing in place.
I only own the Kingdom version and it seems like only having one version of this mold is the key to not having your opinion of it sour lmao.
I enjoy him quite a bit. Truck mode is imperfect but he’s still cool. I’d honestly never owned any Magnus figures before so he’ll always be special for me
Thinking of selling mine tbh, just because I wanna prioritize shelf space for other incoming MMC figures
I still haven’t gotten a version of this mould (I use TFP RID magnus as my main magnus), but I might get the Shattered glass version because it looks wicked! And if we get a SS86 version I’ll get that as well
TFP Beast Hunters Magnus was my Ultra Magnus before I got the “Spoiler” one. I even bought him a G1 gun, and fitted an add-on to the handle for his hands. I like the leg armor on Spoiler Magnus, and wish TFP Magnus also had some.
@@ronaldpaterni5081 The only reason I haven’t gotten any of the other ones is because I had a feeling they’d eventually make a SS86 version of Magnus, especially considering they’ve been redoing quite a few of the characters in SS86 that got figures during the WFC trilogy.
@@DarkScorch At first, with the closeness of past lines, I wasn’t sure what would go into SS86. However, now I’m certain there will be a SS86 Ultra Magnus.
@@ronaldpaterni5081 As soon as I heard about them making the SS86 Starscream and the SS86 Ironhide, I knew for certain they’d be doing a Magnus at some point and I have a feeling he will be amazing!
@@DarkScorchgood news
Wish they would have parts-formed the smoke stacks so they weren't centered.
the one thing the various magnus deco did had a very nice idea behind, if not fully working; all version have a problem, the inside bot was devolped first, with the armor as an add-on, instead of a big part of it
basic siege, it's the cybertronian veicle, it works, arguably the better veicle. the kingdom is the full-on G1 convoy toy, but with a less convincing trailer
the spoiler version deco go the undead version, with the splotches of grey in a robotic simulation of stereotipical decomposing from zombies, the takara verison of the same use a less contrasted color, but uniform trought the whole toy, acting more like the white/bluish shade of undead in the oriental folklore. less 'decomposition' more 'no liquid blood'
the new version is inspiring, and it being basically 2 different versions at once, depending on which one you prefear, its a nice idea, but it will hardly be more than any of these are already
I have the spoiler siege magnus but I have yet to figure out what the spoiler is
Hard to believe coming back to this, that people are now having issues with the Commander class figure.
Galaxy Upgrade Prime is still one of my favorite Siege figures, along with Springer and selects C.D. Hot Shot.
I have the clean siege one, sadly the albino prime’s leg broke at the hip “ratchet”, also, just wanna say I display him with the missiles down, to cover the gap on the side, and because to me, it just looks better, but hey, as Emgo316 would say, it’s your toy, display however you wish
I hated the inner robot for this thing. I feel like it was more like Energon Oprimus than Cybertron, it had its stupid hands poking out despite being a Leader Class toy, and as much as I appreciate that they gave it RID01 Magnus's vehicle mode for Siege, its translation to G1 Magnus and Cybertron Prime just didn't work.
my spoler one kinda sucks the joints were out and the legs wont say together there is a way to fix the rachet death but you got to replace them interly
You can remove the backpack kibble if you want.
also, you guys are lucky. I had to shell out almost 45 bucks for the spoiler one when I bought it on amazon last year.
Some of his looseness and flimsy holding of weapons is probably is from mold degradation like you said. I got the siege magnus(the very 1st run of this mold) and I had the exact opposite problem. His joints that are snap able pieces were tight as shit
I didn’t even know the feet had a pivot bc his feet were at an angle I never bothered to check😭
I have a solution for the visible hand syndrome. If you tab the front of the trailer to the bit the backpack slides up, you don’t see the hands. But at the cost of nothing really tabs into the truck, and it looks like the truck is connected to the trailer.
I have the Spoiler Inside Magnus. I love him. But I agree with you on the ankles and 1000% agree with you on the transformation, plus my gun is also loosey goosey, but other than that, no other problems.
I really feel like the Kingdom figure ruined what made the Siege Magnus fun: Siege Magnus was an RID 2001 Homage that perfectly integrated as an original take on a cybertronian vehicle mode, with a chonky armor gimmick style Magnus, Kingdom was a low effort garbage fire attempt at G1 Pandering that fell on it's face with shitty proportions and an embarrassingly bad vehicle mode
Wait, I don't get it-
Do fans dislike Kingdom because of the Beast Wars characters being in it? because this opinion of mine might sound harsh but they we're the only thing I liked about Kingdom, or was it something else?
@@The_Toonami-AdultSwim_fan2002 People like kingdom, don’t know where you got the idea people didn’t. The case here is that Magnus was a decent siege figure that got forced into a terrible kingdom figure. I’ve heard it was originally going to be based on earth rise prime but budget limitations meant they had to reskin Magnus based on his siege figure.
I only got the Siege one (and Galaxy Upgrade Optimus) and I'm good with that.
7:04 You can squeeze it??? i thought it would tab al together and no weak loose parts
I once saw someone’s comment about to peg the arm guards into the fists, to box in and hide the hands. Not great, but looks OK. I have the “Spoiler” version, and he seems a little too dirty/burnt, but the extras are nice.
So, Black Friday/Cyber Week special - I found the “undamaged”/oversized Siege KO for half off - I’m liking the mold _a lot_ better now, but only because of this reworked KO…
I hope we get a Commander Class Ultra Magnus in Transformers Studio Series 86.
I like the siege mold but a clean version. I have the spoiler one but one of his antennas broke and I don't like he is battle damaged I don't like that. I am thinking on buying kingdom Magnus but I'm reconsidering that because studio series 86 exists. I just wish I got that siege one
Is this guys discord still up? i cant log into my of acc and the invites are invalid for me
Personally I like the kingdom as ultra magnus but I prefer siege ultra magnus as the tinier bot,and I’m debating on wich version of the leg upgrade kit to get for him,between white,grey,blue or black ( for the siege version)
I have the spoiler pack thanks to bbts selling it like half the price of the normal siege one. I like it a lot. I even considered getting the kingdom mold, but now… now I’ll get the Delta Magnus one just because I want a fat blue Optimus Prime >_
I do have the Kingdom version and I do like it. I do want the upgrade kit though because I want the new legs and hammer.
Part of the problem with both Siege/Earthrise Ultra Magnus/Optimus Prime is that their vehicle modes are not scaled reasonably with the car robots.
Thus you only have room for one and half cars on top of Magnus, and almost none of the deluxe figures will fit in Prime's trailer.
At the moment I have Spoiler Ultra Magnus (intended to be repainted into Delta Magnus), ER Ultra Magnus, and ER Prime.
But I'm very likely going to get a BPF Lieutenant (OS OK Siege Ultra Magnus) to use for a Delta Magnus instead.
I'm planning to replace ER Prime with the KBB MP-10v + Trailer.
And am eagerly waiting to see if it's true that we're getting a new mold for SS86 Ultra Magnus.
In the mean time I'm getting BPF's Commander (OS KO Siege OP) and Overlord (KO OS Siege Megs).
Commander is going to serve as the basis for a OS version of a custom G2 OP I saw recently that looked pretty damn cool.
Overlord is to go with MP-10v.
Ideally, I'd really like it if BPF made a similar OS OK of ER Prime, Megs, and Magnus, but for now I'll just have to work with what I have.
Could you use at least one of these in a new pooth check if you find more pooths?
I don’t have any of the mold so I do hope to get the delta magnus
Thats why I replaced my spoiler with KFC citizen stack, came with toyhax stickers already installed, looks soo awesome I got a 3d printed ultra magnus hammerfor him. No more blocky limited articulation for me.
I tried to align the hip ratchets and I did but it didn’t work
Picked up th first Siege version. I passed on the Earthrise mold because it wasn't that different.
Got the ko of the siege magnus , the fixed the height and the feet are flat and made of die-cast , also the magnus chest is made from die-cast so he has a nice heft to him.
I Paid $25 For Spoiler One &
THEN Found Out That My
Sister Bought Me One For
My Birthday From The EXACT
Same Place & Gave 2-BONUS
Targetmasters (Minicons);
Orange Rung & Purple Cobra,
Though I WISH I Bought The
Kingdom Version... But DID NOT
Want To Shell Out $45 For It.
On the kingdom version you can push in the cab