MASSIVE SpaceX ramp-up at KSC & Larger Starships confirmed!
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So, more Raptor Engines and even taller Starships are confirmed. And we saw Super Heavy booster cryo tests. SpaceX fighting for flight readiness and orbital launches. All that while they’re working on two Starship Launch Pads at Kennedy Space Center? Let’s do this!
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Nose lift points removed are not needed if the hard points under the flaps are in place. Using the spreader bar for the booster a crane can still lift Starship.
currently on a suborbital pad ... ready for a hop to be caught with the chopsticks
(really doubt it but would be cool)
The problem is that it will swing bit with two hard points vs firmly holding all around. I think Flex is right, they will re-install the hard points again. It would take bit time to make a one-off attachement like Chopsticks for the cranes they have.
They have no crane tall enough for stacking
What if they don't lift it at all and just directly test out the catching mechanism by flying from the suborbital pad to the tower 😄
@@fabian.moreno Initially I thought that, but arms are yet functional. Also, who knows if ship set to do it. I'm not doubting, but there has only been one ship landing. There going take terrible risk if they try land that sucker hope the catch arms can do their job on the first try. We've not even seen Chop sticks move very quickly yet. They need too.
I love how SpaceX launched 3 Falcon 9s in a row from each of their launch pads and landed on each of their droneships
Felix, thank you for being as busy reporting SpaceX news as SpaceX is busy in making it. 👍
So, 33 engines on the booster and 9 on the ship = 42 total.
He said it would be cool to have 42. He made it happen.
42 is the answer.
I'm sure there is some real reason for 6 Rvacs, but Musk was sure to take it if there was one. He likes his jokes. The renumbered the Boosters for B4/S20 after all.
Thanks in advance, for keeping us updated, Felix!
Have great Holidays!
You sure he was talking about a 'taller' Starship and not simply decreasing the payload volume and increasing the propellant volume of the Starship for the fuel farm?
Yeah, I'm not sure the tower is tall enough to stack a ship that is 7 meters higher than expected.
@@TomorrowisYesterday Hard points can be located further down if need be. 3 extra RVAC2 engines would keep the CG in line at a lower than flap points.
Idk why but whenever DOug says "Let's light this candle" in your intro, I hear it as "Buzz Lightyear Scandal"
I heard "but flight to seattle"
@@cooldog1635 😂
Yeah I heard that lol
I hear "Much like this channel"
@@nekrugderzweite8298 Same for me "Just like this channel"
Chief, take a bow. You've done very well by the channel's audience and your crew.
Hey Chief. Great meeting you last week (and Luis)(Thanks for the pic). Continue the great shots. I guess I left one day early and missed the booster test live :(
Bigger. I wonder if there will be a stubby, lighter ship for off world use better suited for Mars or Lunar landings and the bigger for cargo and tanking. The launch tower feeds and stabilizes from the bottom, so heights could vary.
Mechazilla still has to lift Starship on top of the booster. The catch/support pins will presumably be under the upper Elonerons. In some 3D animations there isn't much room for Starship to get taller, but e.g. in C_bass3d there is some room.
The angry astronaut has been talking about this for ages
I'm sure that the cryo test was about testing the GSE infrastructure as much as it was about testing Booster 4
Re hard-points… I speculate that, rather than arranging for removable hard-points, SpaceX might construct a jig that attaches to the chopstick hard-points, and which allows a crane to lift Starship by attaching to this jig.
Are you sure SpaceX even have such a crane capability any more?
@@lyuboslavilov Just an A frame on top of 2 SMPT's are needed. If they can design a rocket / catching arms, then a A frame aint that difficult :)
@@lyuboslavilov It depends what “crane capability” you’re talking about. I have in mind “How are they going to lift ship 20 off the test stand where it currently resides?” And SpaceX certainty has the crane capability for that.
@@zzubra Not sure the new SpaceX crane has the hight
@@lyuboslavilov It probably doesn’t have the height to stack Starship on top of the booster; but it certainly has the height to remove Starship from the test stand, and move it to a location where the chopsticks could pick it up.
The ability to get such quick updates about the development of Starship is awesome. I love getting to see the nitty-gritty and speculate about what we see. What is really funny is viewing all the side seat engineers out there explaining vocabulary. :D hahahah. Enjoy and love the stream!
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Manually taking off and putting on hardpoints is the type of design spacex usually works against, so it seems unlikely. They'll have static hardpoints somewhere else.
The Cape has road, rail, barge, and it's own private 15,000 foot runway.
Plus clean room payload and astronaut facilities are in place.
Boca Chica to become a manufacturing and test center.
Agreed. Just thinking a ship can fly where it is needed. Could a booster with a light load reach KSC from TX or maybe hop to a floating pad then hop to FL. Or just use a barge.
You don't call a manufacturing and test center Starbase. Boca Chica will eventually expand to be able to handle everything KSC does. Saying that, I do think that KSC will probably be the first place that manned Starships take off. Starbase will initially handle Starlink 2.0 launches methinks...
@@Les_S537 starship will probably never have a manned launch, unless they make significant changes in the security aspect.
@@minimovzEt I don’t follow your line of reasoning…. Changes in security aspects? Of course it will have manned launches…
@@minimovzEt Ridiculous. Where is the escape system on a 747? Even with a launch escape system it is only usable for a very small portion of the flight, most of the time mid-flight if something fails you will just die.
I think they are trying to maximize efficiency of each launch in order to cut down on the number of total launches.
As exciting as all this stuff sounds I just hope Spacex will at least get Starship safely into orbit soon.
I hope that one day it will be possible to develop a thermal mesh, from the same material as the tiles.
Felix your videos are always amazing and factual thank you for all your hard work!
One advantage of the stainless steel ring construction, add rings for bigger tank or payload area. Like Boeing did with the 737. Maybe not the best example...
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6:25 i thought this one is S21 - it was moved out of the midbay, into the highbay and back into the midbay while S22 stayed in the midbay - and the nosecone of S21 is currently in the highbay (as i remember from the @NASASpaceflight videos)
Felix gonna need a tall man shirt for the new starship.
Much better now the music has been lowered thank you.
music actually hasn't been lowered, voice has been highered
Woohoo! Uploaded 5 minutes ago. Fresh on that starship news
personally I wouldn't give a damn how weight is effected. The thrust puck is the most important part of the entire vehicle. It better be crash proof and buckle proof.
BP literally made up the term carbon footprint to obfuscate the fact that big oil is the major contributor and how little personal choice matters when it comes to our own footprints
So 33 booster engines and 9 in the ship brings us to the answer for everything.......42. :)
Cool…They’re adding 95% of a falcon 9 first stage booster volume as a stretch tank. Sounds about right.
This upper stage is going to be crazy. The whole thing is. 20,000 kilonewton for an upper-stage? That's unheard of. Almost three times that of a Falcon 9's first stage. Again. An upper-stage that is 3 times more powerful than another rocket's first stage.
2:22 How is Elon saying that Booster 7/8 will have 33 engines "confirming your theory that Booster 5 would be scrapped"?
Booster 5 has first gen Raptor engines, Elon tweeted that the next booster will have 33 Raptor 2 engines which are 2nd gen, hence the 2 in the name... Boosters 7 and 8 will have Raptor 2 engines
@@bitzelijoschaevci3444 Booster 5 has NO engines yet.
Is there evidence that it cannot fly with Raptor 2 engines?
Build retaking wall around complex to protect environment from rockets and protect starbase from environment.
Love the bloopers reel in the end.
You can see a solar power plant we just built SW of the Roberts Road Building at 9:48
Isnt it insane to think that they are already building a few launch pads for rockets that did not even fly yet?
I love the speed that they move at I just hope the rocket will work.
You have to build the machine before the first can of peas roll off the assembly line.
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Hello my name is Felix and l’m your host for EVERYDAY’s episode…..lol,
You rock !
Okay,.. I see you with the Doctor Strange ``this is getting out of hand`` reference.. clever
First one to notice? 😄👍
@@Whataboutit hAHAHAHAHA. maybe. I loved it
Everybody seems to be hyped about more engines but actually it scares me because they seem to have been quite wrong and more engines -> more fuel needed, more tank -> more tank, more weight and the rocket equation scares me. Hope it will work !!!
I'm sure it will work, but will it be efficient. Robert Zubrin has been opposed to how large Starship is in regard to returning from Mars. The claim is that it is unnecessarily large for a Mars return vehicle which means more propellant and more energy used on the Mars base just to send it back. If they are being used to stay on Mars as habitats, larger is excellent. If they are being used for two way transportation, larger is indeed more dubius in that regard.
A warmer Earth is a better Earth.
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I would think that the the older boosters and starships along with Raptor 1.0 would be useful for early tests to catch them with the chopsticks.
So what if... they plan to fly Ship20 without a booster and try to catch it with the chopsticks to see if the chopsticks actually work as intended? This might explain the hard mounting points. Doesn't even need to fly that high, just high enough to do the catch-test. They might need to remove Booster 4 from the pad tho, just to be sure.
1st orbital flight - all hardware is ditched in the ocean - not captured.
Flying is the ultimate test!
« This is getting out of hand »
Nice reference ;)
Always great content! Congratulations for a great channel!
Rock on Felix!
Hey Felix, any chance you could create quarterly recaps? I haven't been able to keep up since starting a new job but I still want to follow along. Love the channel!
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57.2 meters tall 33 Raptor engines excite
9:00 can you imagine the mess we'd be in if NASA had leased complex 39a to Blue Origin?
Blue Origin did lease LC-36 years ago and is finally converting it for use for New Glenn.
Gary Zimmermann!! God damn!! Am I the only one that caught that?!?!
You Rock
Hi Felix, I think they can´t use the hardpoints in the nosecone cause they can´t reach it when the starship was stacked on top of the booster, it´s to high for the man lifts. Thanks for your videos und Frohe Weihnachten
Starship mAgNuM 😤
Still blows my mind how little usable pressurized space/payload there is on a rocket this massive. It’s like 85% propellant.
Cannot wait for orbital launch!!! This is the very first one aaand, according to statistics, that should be the most expensive firework in the world!
Was waiting for this baby to drop!
Thanks, had a look at Wren and did a quick carbon calculation for our family home and lifestyle. Came in at about 35 tonnes CO2 equiv a year.
What percentage of atmosphere is Carbon? What percentage of that is anthropogenic-sourced?
What was the fallout of having "all hands on deck" at Hawthorn to work on the thrusters (based on the leaked memo)?
Is the latest display of engines on the booster a result of that demand ?
As a union leader, stuff like that pretty much hits only after a couple of weeks to a month. Expect diagruntled workers by the 10th of january.
that is a sign of chaotic management, that starship might be more dream than possibility. they are building a lot on untested, untried- remember, they only "nailed" one landing with many small things having caused catastropic failures leading up to that singular sucess. Starship is building too much to depend on so many critical parts working right without sufficent "field-testing".
Did Elon say the ship is being stretched? Perhaps the payload bay will be reduced with the tanks stretching into the top section.
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Nicholas Tesla always talked about the 3 6 9 equations and possibilities.
I bet, talking about climate will be main topic also on this channel. Hope Scott Manley will not lose his mind.
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Intellectually I know that Starship testing is actually ahead of schedule ( hence jumping numbers and even scrapping whole ships since they're obsolete before finishing ) and that SpaceX already expects lots of testing and likely RUDs as par for the course, but I just have to wonder just how much they have budgeted for each ship/booster if they're actually building them to completion only to discard them almost as fast. Sure, the lessons learned as they keep building will result in a better project in the end but I can't imagine what it'd be like to be working on say, Booster 5 or Ship 21...busting my ass to get stuff done and done right....only to find out "Nope, they're scrap. we'll never use them" That's kinda gotta suck
Yeah it sucks but the pipe cleaner aspect is well worth it.
You have to wonder if some of the ones already built wont be repurposed. Like send SN16 to orbit to act as an orbital tank farm. No need for the TPS as they wouldn't want it back. Do wonder why they removed the skin from SN15's flap though?
@@gravelydon7072 Elon is probably going to talk about the structure inside at the presentation.
Thanks for all this coverage.
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Just wait until we get a super starship and mega heavy
Best part is no part Felix. Elon will rather lift from mechazilla hardpoints than have to add and remove hard points on a nose. We’ve also seen that the nose points run the risk of warping the nosecone so I don’t see them using them to lift a ship with a complete heat shield again.
Once they get proof of concept in the first orbital flight, say hello to the 1st trillionare xD
Glad to see the construction at KSC. There will be a delay before starship will be deemed safe enough to launch over mainland USA. Has anyone done an analysis on if starship can launch to any starlink orbits without over flying land from Texas?
The FAA has never approved orbital launches over land, so it would be a HUGE departure for them to do that.
SpaceX chose the Boca Chica TX site because it is on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico. All Starship flights will be over water.
@@steveaustin2686 FAA approves sub-orbitals over land so why not orbitals?
@@gravelydon7072 If you are talking about the New Shepard, it never leaves the Corn Ranch that the Blue Origin's launch complex is on. It is a straight up-n-down flight, even though the media graphics shows it arching over land. The booster travels almost 4 ground miles from launch pad to landing pad and the capsule doesn't travel much further.
The Virgin Galatic SpaceShipTwo flight is also a straight up-and-down flight right by Spaceport America and is not supposed to deviate from its launch area. The Branson flight left the flight area and the FAA shut them down to investigate. That is why they haven't flown since.
White Sands missile range has sub-orbital flights, but they don't leave the range either.
None of those are similar to launching over land. The FAA may change that in the future, as a launch complex in Georgia launches over another inhabited island nearby. Its for small launchers though, nothing as large as Starship.
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Imagine a Starship-Super Heavy being stacked in the VAB
I may have misunderstood your initial comment, but you reminded me of something I've been thinking about for a while... Just as you have the Falcon 9, and the Falcon 9 Super Heavy config with two side boosters, the same thing should be done with Starship having two extra boosters on the side. What this will do is allow Starship to get into orbit with much more fuel left over on board so that you can go to the moon without having to launch a bunch of Starship refueling depots to top off its tanks.
@@Les_S537 that’s not what I was talking about at all lol. I was talking about stacking a ship onto a normal booster in the VAB and being rolled out to the pad from the VAB
Edit: as opposed to SpaceX’s own high bay
@@robyn051 I edited my comment after I realized what you were really saying... I was making a suggestion about Starship-SuperHeavy mimicking Falcon Heavy's config for the purposes of being able to lift more into space, etc...
@@Les_S537 it’s all good man. That’s a pretty interesting idea but with orbital refueling idk if they’d ever really did that, maybe for a few future launches idk. Pretty interesting though
@@Les_S537 They'd never do it. From hindsight, Falcon Heavy certainly wasn't worth building from their point of view... it took far longer and cost much more to develop, and it's barely been used... they'd have cancelled the project if they hadn't had a couple of contracts forcing them to follow through. And doing an equivalent with SuperHeavy would be even more pointless... the savings from having fewer refueling flights would never make up for the development costs of making such a monster work.
The stretched Starships you mention may be the solution for tanker Starships. Assuming they are used to refuel standard Starships, that should reduce the number of refueling missions needed which reduces the cost and complexity of the total refueling operation.
Yep. SpaceX was initially looking at 14 Tanker flights to refill the [DELETED] propellant depot and got it down to 8 with the improved Starship payload capacity of ~150 tons to orbit. So a stretched Tanker would likely need even less flights to refill a standard Starship. I wonder how much propellant they will add and how much will be left when getting to orbit, as some of that added propellant will be needed to lift the added propellant to orbit.
@@steveaustin2686 With tanker versions, there would be no need for much in the way of crew space so that area could be taken up by fuel.
@@gravelydon7072 Never said that there will be crew space on a Tanker. I fully expect it to be nothing but tanks and avionics. No need to send crew at all, even IF Starship would be man-rated in the next few years anyway.
I think that the [DELETED] propellant depot might have a crew transfer space. It makes no sense to redact the info on [DELETED] in the GAO report, only to confirm it is a propellant depot in the context of how it is used in that same report. So I think it will be used to dock and support Crew Dragon/Starliner for transfer to a Starship Shuttle. A Starship Shuttle would be a variant of Lunar Starship without the legs, as it would go to lunar orbit and back to LEO only. Then you fly up two capsules to take crew to the Starship Shuttle and the [DELETED] supports them in LEO during the Moon mission. Upgrading the follow on Lunar Starship from 4 crew to 6 crew should not be a big deal and you would be able to increase the crew on the Artemis IV+ missions by 50%.
If a Starship launch costs what it does in the HLS Option A contract, then at $147M per launch for 10 launches, a Crew Dragon launch, and a Starliner launch, and you would have 8 crew to the Moon for about the same price that SLS will take 6 crew ($2.05B). If Starship is $100M to launch, then it's $1.58B and if Starship is $50M to launch, then it's $1.08B. A much better deal that SLS and could retire SLS after the first few to half dozen launches.
@@steveaustin2686 We both are thinking along the same lines and I see no need for some of the things on the lunar versions that will be needed for Mars or Earth return ships. I would however expect that there would be some crew space on even a tanker version. Not for normal use but as sort of a space lifeboat. Sort of in the same way as they keep capsules docked at the ISS for use in case of emergency. Heck, you might even see a Crew Dragon docked to a Starship just for that purpose. And agree, if Starship knocks the price down enough, NASA will say the heck with SLS except as a backup. Now with the section looking like a door opening on a current build, it looks like they are expecting to do some work with one of the launches. If they know they can get to orbit, why not put them to work. The return is the bug bear.
@@steveaustin2686 that depends on how much LOX & Liquid Methane weighs per cubic foot. It’s possible the density requires a larger area to reach full load.
I can't agree on those top connectors being "removeable". Its aint that difficult to get a structure on 2 of the SMPT's (A frame) to transport the 2nd stage. you don't want to keep connecting on the top of the ship if in the future they also need windows towards the top.
Using the loadpoints below the fins makes a lot more sense from a structural point of view.
Apparently those top connectors were warping the frame, causing tiles to fall off. We've been aware of that for a while. Personally, I was wondering why it took so long for them to take them off. I mean just think about it. You obviously can't leave them on for the orbital test. So when do they come off? When it's stacked? You would have to do it by hanging off a helicopter. That's the only possible way. Obviously they had to come off while on the ground. I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.
@@TomorrowisYesterday Peter Pan rig on the guy and use the crane. No, I'm not volunteering to be that guy.
@@gravelydon7072 Peter Pan rig? You’re saying have someone hang off the crane? Yeah I guess that does make more sense. Just turn off all the cameras I guess.
Thanks Felix for a awesome 2021 👍
Thanks Chief!
BEZOS: I literally made my ship look more like a pecker than yours
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Kerbal space center finally making an appearance!
I hope a starship that long won’t tear itself apart under aerodynamic forces when it falls supersonicly.
Another great video!
4:40 look!!! UFO on the bottom right of the screen 😱
You are certainly one of the best sources for info on SpaceX.
If Starship, with 9 Raptors, requires a stretch for larger tanks, maybe a smaller stretch will be required at the nose to increase cargo capacity. Adding 4 more raptors to the booster may require a stretch there as well. Hopefully the stack won't exceed the height of the launch tower or impair the chopsticks. I'm sure the "Musketeers" aka aerospace wizards, have this all worked out.
One of your best ever, Felix. Especially loved the way you communicated the environmental side. Too many people think us Space Nuts don't care. Again, Good Work!
I hope they have the funds to establish a 2nd starship factory at the cape. But I think they will only build stage zero, a propellant plant, and possibly a highbay. To ship segments to stack and final assemble at the cape.
Screw the planet. SpaceX is going to Mars!
once agin nice work from all involved
If construction of a Starship orbital launch mount at pad 39A has stopped I would imagine that NASA talked SpaceX out of building it there. A mishap would put Crew Dragon out of commission for months.
Reportedly SpaceX is working on trying to lease LC-49, which is undeveloped north of LC-39B.
Good job Felix 😎👍👍👍
Make a video about how much starbase changed last year :)
second this
Wouldn't they need to extend the flaps to create more drag on the larger ships belly flop?
Due to increased leverage, a longer fuselage generally means smaller required leading and tail surfaces are needed for most attitude control situations.