Zaire Revisited: Congolese nostalgic for era of dictator Mobutu

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    More than 20 years after the fall of the charismatic Congolese dictator Mobutu Sese Seko, who ruled the vast African country with an iron fist from 1965 to 1997, many Congolese look back fondly on the era of "Papa Marshal", as he was nicknamed. Our reporters went to DR Congo to explore the legacy of the longtime strongman.
    It’s been 21 years since Marshal Mobutu Sese Seko was ousted as leader of the Democratic Republic of Congo, meaning 21 years since the large African country swapped dictatorship for supposed democracy. And although the country seemed to suffocate under Mobutu’s autocratic regime, many Congolese now look back with nostalgia on the Zaire years, as the country was called at the time. From national pride to roads and electricity, plus a weakening of tribal influence, the successes of the "Marshal" now seem to outweigh his many failings.
    In the north of DR Congo, not far from the border with the Central African Republic, lies Gbadolite. This is the location that Mobutu, the "leopard of Zaire", chose to be the stronghold of his power. Formerly a hamlet of 2,000 souls made up of a few terracotta huts, Gbadolite was transformed in the late 1960s to accommodate the dictator and his entourage. In just a few years, a modern and stylish city emerged in the heart of the rainforest.
    But one morning of May 1997, the village found itself frozen in time. Driven out by rebels led by Laurent-Désiré Kabila, Mobutu had to flee to Morocco. The Marshal’s extravagant palaces were looted or destroyed. Some buildings under construction were never completed.
    Our reporters Horaci Garcia Marti and Thomas Nicolon visited the ruins of Gbadolite and then Kinshasa, the bustling Congolese capital, to try to understand what traces Mobutu has left on the landscape and in the wider collective consciousness.
    By speaking to those who worked with the dictator, plus those who suffered from his autocratic regime, our reporters explore the difficulty of moving on from a dictatorship that lasted for more than three decades.
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Komentáře • 708

  • @Georgije2
    @Georgije2 Před 3 lety +324

    No wonder everybody you interviewed is nostalgic for the dictator, almost all of them were part of his staff!

    • @unknowable2432
      @unknowable2432 Před 3 lety +16

      Facts! Benefiting from that blood money.

    • @ominakotte8214
      @ominakotte8214 Před 3 lety +5

      HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 Před 3 lety +4

      It figures.

    • @addis1395
      @addis1395 Před 2 lety +1

      He opened Congo to neocolonosers he was corrupt so darling of the west sad

    • @peterpeterholt
      @peterpeterholt Před 2 lety +4

      Exactly, a really biased report. It get better towards the end to be fair.

  • @kolaojo1003
    @kolaojo1003 Před 5 lety +748

    We Africans are always dreaming of d old days...In the old days we wanted New times...Our problems ain't the times, but our refusal to grow and accept responsibility for this growth...life's 4 d progressive

    • @reesegoldess5740
      @reesegoldess5740 Před 5 lety +23

      Kola Ojo Amen Brother. We African Americans are the same way.

    • @AlexDeLarge1
      @AlexDeLarge1 Před 4 lety +6

      Your problems are our problems. We wish our governments in the western world would do something to help you, rather than continue to hurt you. Your infrastructure is the cause of your so-called "backwardness". Lack of health infrastructure, poor sanitation, unpaved roads, these are the problems. You can't even travel from one point to another with modern means of transport. Your governments are trying to make things right for you, but our governments prevent it. We want it to stop.

    • @royalstag3795
      @royalstag3795 Před 4 lety +11

      I have massive respect for everyone here's ability to recogise the problems that africa has

    • @dukepalatinemmxx2098
      @dukepalatinemmxx2098 Před 4 lety +7

      @@koojina so right. If Africans can get into the present and leave the past behind, this continent and all its people can even become rather wealthy. Education is the key and the development of proper self respect during the process, which leads to respect for others, the coyntry, the animals, environment and planet. Rwanda is currently a shining example of the African potential properly focused and managed. Botswana is another.

    • @wamuriuki4
      @wamuriuki4 Před 4 lety +2

      @@koojina you're an African like Tommy Sotomayor.

  • @reesegoldess5740
    @reesegoldess5740 Před 5 lety +191

    The Congo people soon forget the assassination of Patrice Lumumba now that was a real leader

    • @teddybear668
      @teddybear668 Před 4 lety +37

      Exactly...he was accused by the west for having links with the communists, as if colonialism was better than communism in any way.

    • @TheMuzikall
      @TheMuzikall Před 4 lety +21

      They didn't... it was just kept out of the news...Even the Shias in Iraq miss their sworn enemy Saddam. .but it's kept out of the news..just like how Libyans miss Muammar. .but you will NEVER hear of it...

    • @692ALBANNACH
      @692ALBANNACH Před 3 lety +8

      @@teddybear668 Read he first approached the US for support but was refused. He then approached the USSR and they said yes.

    • @Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong
      @Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong Před 3 lety +5

      @@TheMuzikall Gaddafi maybe but I don't think many people miss Saddam. A lot of people regret the US invasion but not many tears have been shed for that butcherer.

    • @benjamincolon5486
      @benjamincolon5486 Před 4 měsíci

      I know every day I your dress that guy as president every time I hear his name I always call him president and Mobutu. I just called general because he's no president and plus that's what I imagine African autocrats like Mobutu either a general or a military officer who either work? "To bribing their way to a major way corporal or brigadier general because he's no president, he murder the real one

  • @oceejekwam6829
    @oceejekwam6829 Před 3 lety +50

    When Congo recovers, Africa will recover. DR Congo is a very important country in Africa.

    • @birikunzira7183
      @birikunzira7183 Před 3 lety +3

      When ,???

    • @gloriaenoma3730
      @gloriaenoma3730 Před 3 lety

      Facts

    • @rudyniosho2505
      @rudyniosho2505 Před 3 lety +5

      And that’s exactly why it will never rise! First, western powers will never allow it, and secondly, Congolese themselves are not even conscious of that! Sad!

    • @sossiserano2707
      @sossiserano2707 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rudyniosho2505 you are right

    • @knasheed8092
      @knasheed8092 Před 2 lety +2

      Zaire will NEVER recover! Ever! This country and its politicians belong to Belgium, America, and France.

  • @neitevezana9263
    @neitevezana9263 Před 3 lety +58

    As a people, we Africans are our own worst enemies.

  • @abiodunodeleye7984
    @abiodunodeleye7984 Před 3 lety +95

    A friend worked in Congo (as a missionary physician) in the mobutu years.
    That was the only country he and his wife could not establish a school for medical asst/ surgical asst/lab assistant. Because mobutu wouldn’t give approval! And he had worked in South Asia and all over Africa.
    You can count the number of secondary schools in Congo when the Belgians were there, and mobutu left the country with the same number!

    • @Darwinek
      @Darwinek Před 3 lety +29

      True. He was a megalomaniac and egoist. Why improve a healthcare or education system if your wife needs to fly to Paris every weekend for extensive luxury shopping spree.

    • @Darwinek
      @Darwinek Před 3 lety +8

      @tanya kimbe Modern day missionaries bring healthcare and education. Something local African dictators don't care about.

    • @bobbatons1720
      @bobbatons1720 Před 2 lety +10

      We are talking about a guy, who when Congo went bankrupt in 1989, he had more money than the overall debt of Congo!! I think Congo's debt was 3 billion dollars and his own fortune was 5 billion. They guy could pay the whole debt of his country by just writing a check. And yet... you see Africans worshiping him. And that explains a lot about the situation in the Continent as a whole. Not only for Congo.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 Před 2 lety

      @@bobbatons1720 there aren't anyone reminiscing about him though, your comment screams of bias

    • @bobbatons1720
      @bobbatons1720 Před 2 lety +6

      @@oo--7714 No my comment is inconvenient maybe for those who want to put the blame for the malaise of Africa to anyone but Africans themselves. I met Congolese and they do worship him. Plus they have the same positive opinion for other African authoritarian leaders like Qantafi for example.
      Plus, the same things they said to me for Kabila. He lost power because of the evil West. The guy who had hundreds of millions in banks abroad.

  • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069

    Watching these videos, it seems very cruel how things have turned out. I imagine that back in the early 1960s there was hope and a wide-open future for nations who threw off colonial powers. Now, 60 years later, people are nostalgic for a brutal dictator because the present is so awful.

    • @MustacheCashStash125
      @MustacheCashStash125 Před rokem

      The U.S. came and ruined it all by assassinating Patrice Lumumba all because they thought he might be a communist

  • @andrewmbuvi5804
    @andrewmbuvi5804 Před 5 lety +277

    he destroyed that country, and killed lumumba the Great

    • @mastercdric
      @mastercdric Před 5 lety +49

      The CIA killed Lumumba

    • @RDGikTv
      @RDGikTv Před 4 lety +12

      @Shotgunmad xl you sound dumb

    • @blessingomodion1141
      @blessingomodion1141 Před 4 lety +8

      @@RDGikTv he is not only dumb but a useful idiot: that's what Europeans call Africans like him.

    • @angolafapla1633
      @angolafapla1633 Před 4 lety +5

      @@mastercdric Tshombé and Munongo of Conakat killed Lumumba Patrice Emery Western powers just gave them assistance with the support of Soviet Union whom turned a blind eye to the Congolese situation...

    • @denismutabazi
      @denismutabazi Před 4 lety +8

      He was a pawn

  • @kelleybrown1666
    @kelleybrown1666 Před 3 lety +45

    I remember the country being called Zaire on maps in the 90s.

    • @gabistan2007
      @gabistan2007 Před 3 lety +3

      Even before from begin his leadership

  • @Burner_Acc
    @Burner_Acc Před 4 lety +29

    Watching fools like Mobutu and Bokassa makes me appreciate Nyerere of Tanzania even more. The unsung hero of Africa.

  • @AlexS-oj8qf
    @AlexS-oj8qf Před 5 lety +20

    That backyard view! Wow it's so stunning!

    • @darthsion3844
      @darthsion3844 Před 3 lety +4

      King Mobuto definitely had the money and power to obtain such a view, at the expense of his peasants, and with the support of the global empire.

  • @etcetera3282
    @etcetera3282 Před 4 lety +85

    What is missing from this narrative is the elephant in the room: the role of France & other powers.

    • @lilsabin
      @lilsabin Před 3 lety +5

      the narrative is about the palace , not about the politic

    • @jensramputh
      @jensramputh Před 3 lety

      unfortunately its not possible to legislate prosperity

    • @JuanPablo-lt3us
      @JuanPablo-lt3us Před 3 lety +7

      No, they mentioned it. America sponsored the coup of Mobutu.

    • @Walter37165
      @Walter37165 Před 3 lety

      You were lucky but you didn't learn

    • @fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810
      @fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 Před 3 lety +7

      In the DRC the colonial power was Belgium, and the effects were the same. When they left they made sure too destabilize the country so it wouldn't recover.

  • @neitevezana9263
    @neitevezana9263 Před 3 lety +64

    "He didn't do it to earn money " of course he didn't need it after decades of plundering and looting from state coffers.

    • @samnedumedja5323
      @samnedumedja5323 Před 3 lety +1

      They are the people from his hometown, of course they missed him. He transformed a village to a city, I wonder if other villages feel the same way.

  • @theCongoleseDude
    @theCongoleseDude Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for doing this.

  • @bokay3900
    @bokay3900 Před 4 lety +67

    The people in this video must be members of Mubutu's tribe. He ran that country into the ground!

    • @jamez1224
      @jamez1224 Před 4 lety +18

      Bingo! Those people from his tribe. They never admit his wrongs, still praise him

    • @jdlc903
      @jdlc903 Před 3 lety +5

      He built it up initially

    • @rudyniosho2505
      @rudyniosho2505 Před 3 lety

      Nope! Kambayi Bwatshia was not from his tribe!🙄

  • @sethz8857
    @sethz8857 Před 4 lety +17

    Oh Africa!! For how long will i weep for u?? When will u ever wake up?? 😭😭😭

  • @TheNeverposts
    @TheNeverposts Před 5 lety +158

    what is it about horrible dictators and fashion sense?

    • @seeyouagain911
      @seeyouagain911 Před 4 lety +15

      Jist because it is something you don't see in Vogue or other white washed magazine doesn't mean it is horrible.

    • @jon-snow-GOT
      @jon-snow-GOT Před 4 lety +1

      Same with leaders in religious, business, political, academic fields and anybody with power and influence. Humans respond to style.

    • @Rm-ss5gv
      @Rm-ss5gv Před 3 lety

      @@seeyouagain911 look up vogue third picture is Rihanna

    • @Rm-ss5gv
      @Rm-ss5gv Před 3 lety

      @@seeyouagain911 and 4th is lizzo

    • @Telluwide
      @Telluwide Před 3 lety +1

      The Emperor's new clothes....

  • @uraninite8151
    @uraninite8151 Před 4 lety +25

    The coca cola factory was used to store weapons captured by the ALC from the FAC in the second congo war. The MLC still kept weapons there until 2007 when Bemba fled and the FARDC discovered them. In a SABC special assignment episode from 2000 the weapons are shown next to the coke crates. Quite interesting.

  • @shamuteyanelson5507
    @shamuteyanelson5507 Před 3 lety +28

    It's time for us Africans to start making our own documentaries,telling our own deep understanding of events and accounts regarding our own history..A story can be told from many angles.I appreciate this effort and have learnt a lot though.

  • @gasananijonan5558
    @gasananijonan5558 Před 4 lety +17

    Make another video of the role of king Leopold, Belgium and France, we shall be very happy. How about tht

  • @FlagArmadaProductions
    @FlagArmadaProductions Před 4 lety +4

    Anyone know where I can get a Zaire cap like that one the guy at 14:56 is wearing? It's so cool.

  • @jumajasjas2925
    @jumajasjas2925 Před 5 lety +74

    Why only mentioning USA and Belgium as the countries which helped mobutu... we all know he was a closer friend with France

  • @kevinkariuki239
    @kevinkariuki239 Před 3 lety +7

    He thought he would live till year 2000 but lived till 1997. No one knows tomorrow. Only God does.

  • @whitebelt920
    @whitebelt920 Před 4 lety +48

    I wish my president Mr Museveni learns from this history and he relinquishes power before it's too late.

    • @tripleceven
      @tripleceven Před 4 lety +13

      Dont even worry about him because that chapter will run its course. Rather worry about his successor for thats where your future lies.

    • @andrewrukundokyakabale9754
      @andrewrukundokyakabale9754 Před 4 lety +1

      Hard Target Mbarara will become dilapidated one day.

    • @kabongelamech2429
      @kabongelamech2429 Před 3 lety +3

      I surely can’t wait to celebrate m7’s departure

    • @evansoduor7624
      @evansoduor7624 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tripleceven exactly, their would be anarchy

    • @winebarimunsi4732
      @winebarimunsi4732 Před 3 lety +1

      Worry about yourself and your family...Museveni is still around and there is nothing you can do...Zaire and Ugandas histories are different...🇺🇬🇺🇬🇺🇬👍👍👍

  • @heraldloshi1864
    @heraldloshi1864 Před 5 lety +43

    Give me the factory,and I turn it around.Forget about this billionaire nonsense.Give it to a person with a business acumen,without any interference.Or harassments for that matter.

    • @TemdriWorld
      @TemdriWorld Před 5 lety +6

      Herald Loshi All you would need is the infrastructure to transport your goods from the factory to the rest of the country and continent. I am with you on that, I will join👍🏿✊🏿

    • @mastercdric
      @mastercdric Před 5 lety +1

      If you're black why not. There's an a lot of work to be done

    • @carlojones8610
      @carlojones8610 Před 5 lety +4

      Wrong they sat around for 20 years never inspired to work without pay until profits showed.
      And even the market not buying the product.
      they never make any native product.
      not the money but the motivations are what they need👂

    • @heraldloshi1864
      @heraldloshi1864 Před 5 lety +1

      @Carlos Jones so it is all about a weak work culture.Then they need to decolonize their minds.And this is where prudent leadership comes in.A benevolent dictatorship is what this place needs.I would like to imagine,what would happen if this plant was in say Bukavu.The people of Eastern Congo are go getters.They would try to make the best out of the worst situation.

    • @mikeaman2008
      @mikeaman2008 Před 5 lety

      It can still be done if we come together!@@mastercdric

  • @rickjames21
    @rickjames21 Před 4 lety +10

    He killed Patrice Lumumba. But I would be remiss if I didnt marvel at how he made Zaireans pride of their african heritage.

  • @logicalnutjob5285
    @logicalnutjob5285 Před 5 lety +29

    Wow, the 1st 12 minutes of that it was difficult to think of him as anything but a benevolent leader, rather than the dictator most known for Kleptocratic rule. He was revered & successful as a dictator because he was able to amass a ginormous private fortune and hold onto power for a long time. Just been reading 'The Dictator's Handbook' and he has been applauded (for being a successful dictator) in that. He did all of this at the expense of Zaire's people, he had a small coalition, for which yes, they were probably indeed very happy and still revere him, but the majority of the population did not. Why would there be protests otherwise?
    Why would there be political rivals (wanting to take over the control of money is definitely one reason)
    It was briefly mentioned that the airport COULD land a Concorde, why not state the whole truth that Mobutu did often land a Concorde there because he rented the plane from Air France? That's a serious amount of ostentatious wealth spent right there.
    There's no doubt that he was a very intelligent man, and figured out the system in which to govern very well.
    Yet this piece seems like its for white europeans who don't know anything of the country... and don't want to be pained with sorrow at the past of an African country, with a dictator in which they helped support and through this support were partially complicit in the consequences.
    It ends with... 'ah well, things are looking up... democracy is on its way'. But doesn't really go into the situation as it stands now.
    None the less, its an important piece, even if its just offers a small piece of the pie, which can be added to more if people should be inclined to think a little more.

    • @CharlieSpencers
      @CharlieSpencers Před 5 lety

      logical nutjob I would hardly call this a “comfort piece for ignorant WHITE Europeans”. It just seems like a poorly-studied piece of media that (as it always seems-to these days) takes a jab at nationalism. I don’t understand the argument that it is used to comfort European people, as this country was only the colony of Belgium and nearly every European person involved in aiding his rise to power is elderly or dead, the citizens of Belgium having near-nothing to do with it. Perhaps the piece is attempting to try at times to sympathise with those Congolese citizens who are “nostalgic” to his rule. Nonetheless, they still describe his reign as marked with “violence and oppression”, frequently mentioning his lavish spendings.

    • @logicalnutjob5285
      @logicalnutjob5285 Před 5 lety +5

      ​@@CharlieSpencers Oh i don't mean the Belgium Congo part (1908 to 1960- independence), thats a different story entirely. I mean the timeline of when Mobutu was in power (1965 -1997). Mobutu had strong ties with France, & still with Belgium and with the United States. All being significant donors of aid, which as with any dictatorship, goes mostly into the pockets of the dictator and their coalition, & is generally used to suppress their people.
      France at the time, was no doubt told a rosy story of the situation due to Mobutu being friends of the government. (or at least strategic ally).
      I say that it seems like its for white europeans because its from a French news channel, its clearly European news which Americans, Australians & a bunch of other countries aren't likely to tune into.
      Those people that watched the news when Mobutu was in power, are still mostly alive today. I believe this kind of story is for them. Whilst a lot of it is true, there's a lot of information that's been left out to make it seem 'balanced' as news channels often try to do, so as to not come across as biased. (Even when the situation doesn't demand it)
      Its the kind of news reporting that people have got used to as 'providing a fair opinion of whats going on in the country'. Of course they're only interviewing people who were looked after by the regime... so it IS biased, but the way it is presented seems like it its to placate those people that can't tell that.

    • @CharlieSpencers
      @CharlieSpencers Před 5 lety

      logical nutjob Oh, I agree that it’s biased in that their interviewbase is all favoured towards him. I’m not arguing against that. But the idea that this is made to appeal to European people to make them feel better about matters they have little to do with is poor. The average Frenchman or Belgian has little knowledge about their governments’ involvement in their misguided aid to Mobutu, so efforts to somehow relieve their absent guilt would be in vein. Despite who they interview, they very frequently mention all the wrongs of his administration. It still mentions his corruption, oppression and lavish spending, the silencing and killing of protesters (even saying his “apparent prosperity”, “apparent” used to denote that it’s of the opinion of others), so its specious reasoning to state that they’re in favour of him. It seems much more rational this is an attempt to sympathise with and understand the nostalgic Congolese, taking their opinions and what would make them feel like they do, but coming-in with very quick reminders of the Dictatorship’s wrongs, it is about the “nostalgic” Congolese, after-all.

    • @logicalnutjob5285
      @logicalnutjob5285 Před 5 lety

      ​@@CharlieSpencers Are you sure? (that they very frequently mention all the wrongs of his administration) The 1st half of it, is 'this is what it once was... here's a palace, here's his lavish spendings' (yes so lots of spendings.) Then its interviews with people who benefited from the Regime, then for a very small part (around the 12min mark) it talks about the torture, protestors being killed etc, and then goes back (around the 14 min mark) to talking to people who are trying to pay homage to the Mobutu in some way. There is no footage of the killings, there is a vague shot of a stadium in which 4 opposition members were hung... but thats it. On the whole, the imagery for people watching it is positive, despite what the narration is saying at the 12 min mark. For those that are ignorant as to what actually happened there,... it would be difficult to watch this and realise that he was such a corrupt dictator. (Dictators often kill people, how is this one any different?) . You're right, the average frenchman or belgian has little knowledge, and now with this 'update' on the country... they still have little knowledge, they're not really learning anything. They knew enough that their government was involved... but didn't bother then to find how to what extent, and because of an article like this.. still don't know. So in that way it feels like it made for them. [Its possible to have guilt from not knowing about something, & by not knowing, feeling complicit, ie. voting for a government that supports it, yet not really knowing whats going on]
      You say "so its specious reasoning to state that they’re in favour of him". You've misunderstood what i was saying i think. I'm not saying they're in favour of him, i'm saying they are presenting a biased view of the situation by leaving out information. Yes its about the 'nostalgic congolese', but there's only a small group thats nostalgic, I thought the point was about the upcoming elections at the time. But there is so little focus on that.

    • @CharlieSpencers
      @CharlieSpencers Před 5 lety

      logical nutjob 0:30: Mentioning that Belgium was a former colonial power and through that insinuating that it may have vested interests in him
      0:54: “He nationalised foreign companies, *corruption taking hold at every level of the country’s administration*.”
      1:55: “Little by little, *corruption* became endemic and the *violent* regime began to falter, *long-suffering* Zaireans fighting-back”.
      2:17: “Despite the *violence* and *oppression*, some Congolese still feel a certain nostalgia...”
      12:17: “But despite the grand facade, Mobutu was leading the country to ruin.”
      12:25: Mentioning how he tortured and killed dissidents (even hanging politicians in a stadium).
      Need I go-on? The coverage is by no means a pure display of praise.
      And people don’t generally feel guilt for something their government did a few decades-ago that they didn’t have a say-in. There would be no sense in censoring certain information for people who generally wouldn’t care past the superficial or would actually become more interested or even become disgruntled as a result of it. Revealing all the horrors of the regime would probably yield more interest and views, but it appears they did this to see what those who benefited from his regime had to say. They still mention oppression, violence and corruption, analysing how some miss him despite this. The media today is very eager to remind the West about the worst parts of its history such as slavery, colonialism and fascism, I hardly think this channel would shy-away from sharing the past goings-on of the DRC.

  • @veriteinternational
    @veriteinternational Před 4 lety +16

    US and France kept him there for a reason....

    • @birikunzira7183
      @birikunzira7183 Před 3 lety +1

      And later abandoned him...what a shame what a humiliation he felt, was sickly broke a huge nation shattered divided and still very unstable...hell

  • @deborahkobe9094
    @deborahkobe9094 Před 2 lety

    He was so high and mighty when he came but the way things ended for him is so painful, you can see by the looks of this mansion

  • @cmukupo1606
    @cmukupo1606 Před 5 lety +58

    I really hope DRC is able to get prolonged peace and development it needs, it really is Africas sleeping giant.

    • @roninkhan9669
      @roninkhan9669 Před 5 lety +3

      More like a Giant that’s been beaten into a coma by all the wars. No waking up anytime soon.

    • @cmukupo1606
      @cmukupo1606 Před 5 lety +4

      @@roninkhan9669 We hope for the best the region needs her, africa needs her.

  • @jordansernik
    @jordansernik Před 3 lety +30

    Humans really need a strong leader, eh? We're such funny animals

    • @gamemage4750
      @gamemage4750 Před 3 lety +6

      Yeah, i wish more people were willing to admit that we are animals and what that implies

  • @carlsanchious8192
    @carlsanchious8192 Před 3 lety +13

    I like that he, though it's extreme, enforced the mandatiate of the citezens to name their children African names....and for men to dress in African style clothing.....African cultural articles such as these should, even through force, be gladly obliged....,such things should be a gesture of honor and respect to a blessed people.....,. to have such beautiful culture and customs.

    • @geletoz
      @geletoz Před rokem +1

      The irony of marrying an African woman named marrie Antoinette

  • @juliusjuma2827
    @juliusjuma2827 Před 4 lety +2

    Who is watching this due to this pandemic?? Viva Patrice

  • @eddiempate600
    @eddiempate600 Před 4 lety +10

    Am I the only one who is confused by this documentary? It seems the Congolese are hailing Mobutu while the reporter is crushing him. Its high time we Africans should well document our history, not these foreigners whose views and ideas are based on their own interests. Much love from 🇹🇿

  • @tambakongoh
    @tambakongoh Před 3 lety +1

    appreciate the moment

  • @colint7743
    @colint7743 Před 5 lety +144

    Speak of the misery brought to the Congo by Belgium.

    • @ouriquerex3494
      @ouriquerex3494 Před 5 lety +10

      The misery ? Belgium brought civilization.

    • @agarjakendu
      @agarjakendu Před 5 lety +44

      @@ouriquerex3494 what an idiot. The Belgians reduced the population of Congo by 10%. King Leopold makes Hitler look like a choir boy

    • @colint7743
      @colint7743 Před 5 lety +7

      @@ouriquerex3494 Civilization? Japan modernized in 40yrs 1868 - 1912. From feudal society to modern society. Remarkable ! Unmatched in human history. Without outside interference.

    • @peter-jantentijeookwelgeno7042
      @peter-jantentijeookwelgeno7042 Před 5 lety +13

      colin thompson sorry but japan is different then africans. Ethiopia is free for the last 2000 years and nothing is done there lol

    • @agarjakendu
      @agarjakendu Před 5 lety +15

      @@peter-jantentijeookwelgeno7042 Actually just after world war 2 broke out, Ethiopia was invaded by Italy, before having their arses whipped back to Europe.

  • @kwekunyameyie238
    @kwekunyameyie238 Před 3 lety +7

    These people are crazy, Lumumba is my pick! This just shows how men will ignore so much if you give them a position and a small amount of money. Lumumba wanted all of Africa to rise!

  • @starman1144
    @starman1144 Před 3 lety +35

    Can they change the name back to Zaire. It's weird to have two countries with the name Congo. And the name Zaire sounds cooler.

    • @JuanPablo-lt3us
      @JuanPablo-lt3us Před 3 lety +6

      it does

    • @birikunzira7183
      @birikunzira7183 Před 3 lety +6

      Yes DRC is a long and not a local name, besides how democratic are they now , just get another name ..

    • @anthonyndungu5431
      @anthonyndungu5431 Před 3 lety +1

      But the name congo is derived from the kingdom of old called kongo

    • @vjcrazy3335
      @vjcrazy3335 Před 3 lety

      They can also change the name to Maleba or Malebo after the Malaebo Falls then there won't be any confusion between the two countries current names.

    • @franciscobahamondefranco7321
      @franciscobahamondefranco7321 Před 3 lety

      @@birikunzira7183 the worst ranked country by Democracy Index of 2020.

  • @gaboonviper9705
    @gaboonviper9705 Před 4 lety +40

    No single former French colony is at peace,,if they aren't fighting, poverty is humbling them

    • @andrescosetti927
      @andrescosetti927 Před 4 lety +6

      Timber wolf Bite except that the DRC was never a French colony. Also there are a whole range of former French colonies that do rather well. Cambodia, Vietnam, Senegal, Morocco, Côte d’Ivoire....none of them at war. Not a defense of colonialism, but the Anglo kind was certainly not better.

    • @sasorishino
      @sasorishino Před 4 lety +6

      Agree, Vietnam is particurly doing good.
      But I daresay that it is far from Britain's successful colonies like Singapore and Hong Kong.

    • @jocelyneinarukundo3655
      @jocelyneinarukundo3655 Před 4 lety +1

      Great observation!! 😭😭😭😭😭

    • @starman1144
      @starman1144 Před 3 lety +6

      DRC was a Belgian colony, not a French one.

    • @gaboonviper9705
      @gaboonviper9705 Před 3 lety

      @@starman1144,,Belgians were ousted by French,,

  • @grounddove4362
    @grounddove4362 Před 3 lety +5

    This man said he is very upset because he knows how his /mabutu Resident use to be ....he was one of them who's got special treatment while other's in the Country suffering...

  • @MrRJS27
    @MrRJS27 Před 3 lety +10

    The ones nostalgic for what they actually remember are quite old, because there were only four good years, 1965 through 1969. The rest are remembering something they didn't actually experience. You can read the very interesting late-1980s book "Rise and Decline of the Zairian State" about this.

  • @enoharrey79
    @enoharrey79 Před 4 lety +6

    Mobutu alongside his western masters conspired and killed Lumumba. This dictator clearly brought misery to Congo. He cared about no one else but Mombutu. Those who spoke well about Mobutu are clearly those who benefited from his looting of congo's natural resources. Congo under Lumumba would have been the light of Africa. #LONG#LIVE#PATRICE#LUMUMBA.

  • @neiltherealdeal8266
    @neiltherealdeal8266 Před 3 lety +3

    In Kenya we had our own mobutus whose children are now still running the state . They handed a lot to the british and whatever was left they gave to themselves thus condemning the majority of kenyans to abject poverty. I hope I live to see their fall.

    • @aphrodite1699
      @aphrodite1699 Před 2 lety

      Ruto will never be President, he is a murderer.

  • @marcomosala850
    @marcomosala850 Před 4 lety +1

    Land of my father' to grand fathers

  • @davidanderson9664
    @davidanderson9664 Před 3 lety +7

    Misguided nostalgia for criminal dictators/ mass murderers (Mobutu, Stalin, etc) can only be fixed by better teaching of HSTORY. It. Is. Important! D.A., J.D., NYC

  • @DogonChild
    @DogonChild Před 5 lety +16

    Hands off Africa

    • @DogonChild
      @DogonChild Před 5 lety

      @bishap global86 what's ur point?

    • @JRHartley.
      @JRHartley. Před 3 lety

      Tell that to the Chinese.

    • @DogonChild
      @DogonChild Před 3 lety

      @@JRHartley. naaah... I'll tell that to everyone

    • @JRHartley.
      @JRHartley. Před 3 lety

      @@DogonChild fair enough my man, but it's not everyone with their hands all over Africa. It is the Chinese that are slowly taking over, African Governments will be in debt to them for a very long time and they don't give a sh!t about Africa or its people.

    • @DogonChild
      @DogonChild Před 3 lety

      @@JRHartley. the comment made specifically directed at above post, interference in African affairs started way before china and that doesn't meant that china is not interfering or immune from critics of any sort

  • @kaijudude_
    @kaijudude_ Před 5 lety +32

    You'd think the state would of seized Mobuto's old palace and made it into some government place or something

    • @shanetonkin2850
      @shanetonkin2850 Před 5 lety +19

      There was no state, by the time Mobuto left the country hadn’t been able to pay civil servants like the police of the military for years. People just stopped turning up to their jobs and focussed on looking after themselves- typically by looting their previous employer of anything of value they could find.

    • @martymcfly5423
      @martymcfly5423 Před 4 lety +4

      It has historical value and shouldnt be changed at all. It should be protected and can become a tourist-attraction..

    • @denismutabazi
      @denismutabazi Před 4 lety +1

      Indiscipline

    • @kaijudude_
      @kaijudude_ Před 4 lety

      @@denismutabazi Wanna elaborate there civilian?

    • @denismutabazi
      @denismutabazi Před 4 lety +2

      @@kaijudude_ it would have been more valuable if it had been kept the way it was, instead they tore it apart. What value did they get from what they looted?

  • @barrywhite5577
    @barrywhite5577 Před 3 lety +12

    Victims often find it hard to move on from their abuser.

  • @uraninite8151
    @uraninite8151 Před 4 lety +3

    Am I right that the MLC used the palace as a base in the second Congo war? Also were there many ex-FAZ soldiers in the ranks of the ALC ?

  • @bomaye2122
    @bomaye2122 Před 3 lety

    Zaire Boma yé!

  • @simonmbogo4133
    @simonmbogo4133 Před 5 lety

    Zaire will be great again thank to the new president

  • @stephenbrand5661
    @stephenbrand5661 Před 3 lety +4

    Zaire does sound better than DRC gotta admit

  • @RoniForeva
    @RoniForeva Před 5 lety +6

    Congo has never had a chance to be the great country it could be. It is literally the most mineraly rich country in the word but the economically poorest because the entire world wants a piece of Congo’s resources

    • @ncumisagarishe2733
      @ncumisagarishe2733 Před 5 lety +3

      Roni that’s the case with the entire African continent

    • @RoniForeva
      @RoniForeva Před 5 lety +3

      @@ncumisagarishe2733 yes, but I'd argue countries like botswana, Ghana, Rwanda, Kenya, even Nigeria has had more of a chance to govern and make something of itself than DRC. From independence till date DRC has been in on form of conflict/oppression till now. The perpetrators of this have been internal and external forces on the continent and abroad. I love Africa, I have so much hope and faith in the continent but DRC is one country I don't have too much hope in although I really wish time proves me wrong especially in my lifetime.

  • @johnsanjuan9364
    @johnsanjuan9364 Před 3 lety +2

    Joseph Sese Seko Mobutu!

  • @JustinNgHC
    @JustinNgHC Před 3 lety +4

    Weak democracy or strong dictatorship?
    Win the battle but lose the war?
    The results speak for themselves

  • @josephdale69
    @josephdale69 Před 3 lety +1

    The country looked so much better back then.

  • @realnewsoftheday2027
    @realnewsoftheday2027 Před 4 lety +21

    When Mobutu was in power there wasn't a lot of killing or rape there was peace now we have genocide 16 millions Congolese killed by Rwanda and Uganda

    • @realnewsoftheday2027
      @realnewsoftheday2027 Před 3 lety +6

      What about Kagame and Museveni government they killed 16 million Congolese people

    • @tuforu4
      @tuforu4 Před 3 lety

      Muzaveni must be SO RICH.

    • @Indian_Tovarisch
      @Indian_Tovarisch Před 2 lety

      Mobotu still killed thousands of people he didn't liked and constantly spent billions for his own benefits like taking a private supersonic jet to Paris just for a doctor visit or whatever he literally was a slave of west and destoryed the entire country was causing anger before leaving

  • @Unclemiffato100
    @Unclemiffato100 Před 5 lety +10

    MUSEVENI has learned from MOBUTU. I see a morrow image of Mobutu in Museveni! He's the only man with a vision in Uganda ! Corruption is rampant among his crew of Liberators! And he also stands to become Life President ! After editing the constitution twice to suit his desires! He will probably on his death bed edit the constitution again to have the first deceased president head a country

    • @anyiethyai1261
      @anyiethyai1261 Před 3 lety

      At least uganda has seen progress under museveni

    • @siszion3926
      @siszion3926 Před 2 lety +1

      @@anyiethyai1261 Are you kidding me?

  • @tradesigSignal
    @tradesigSignal Před 7 měsíci

    Gbadolite is a paradise, believe me, I have been there. It is something to watch it and another to live it.

  • @justagapelove5204
    @justagapelove5204 Před 4 lety +1

    Live by the sword and die by the sword. Patrick lumumba ⚔ mubutu

  • @kadimamuamba
    @kadimamuamba Před 4 lety +5

    This guy is killing the names 🤣😂😂

  • @moha516
    @moha516 Před 5 lety +36

    Speak of the misery France brought in North Africa

  • @monojakennedy_3758
    @monojakennedy_3758 Před 4 lety +3

    Go to West Nile region in Uganda and you'll realise that people still think Iddi Amin was the best president Uganda had ever had.
    Although of course internationally Amin was considered to be a dictator

  • @ahmedheensaley5526
    @ahmedheensaley5526 Před 5 lety +2

    We love Mobutu

    • @g6686not
      @g6686not Před 5 lety +5

      Do not forget about Patrice Lamumba as well.

    • @shunidavid8713
      @shunidavid8713 Před 3 lety

      I can not remeber mobutu evil .his your family member may be

  • @jimmason1072
    @jimmason1072 Před 3 lety

    "TIME MARCHES ON....WHERE IT'S GOING MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW"

  • @jonsardlukula9416
    @jonsardlukula9416 Před 5 lety

    My Mobutu and my Zaire

    • @mrttripz3236
      @mrttripz3236 Před 5 lety

      Do you know anywhere that a person can find an English translation of the manifesto of n'sele?

  • @denismutabazi
    @denismutabazi Před 4 lety +12

    "European lifestyle", which European lives like Mobutu?

    • @TheMuzikall
      @TheMuzikall Před 4 lety +3

      😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

  • @augustxiii2580
    @augustxiii2580 Před 4 lety

    They make U-Turns.
    Steve taught me. Lag

  • @zacharyhenderson2902
    @zacharyhenderson2902 Před 5 lety +33

    He was a terrible dictator, but it's amazing how much Mobutu modernized the Congo, and how decrapid things have become since

    • @jenniferhaynes8625
      @jenniferhaynes8625 Před 4 lety +10

      Zachary Henderson,he had blood on his hands.

    • @gamalsankara1388
      @gamalsankara1388 Před 4 lety +3

      Jennifer Haynes every leader has blood on their hands,

    • @tomastumino3454
      @tomastumino3454 Před 4 lety +5

      I think what happened was that Mobutu was a plunderer, but at least he was a local plunderer and there was some level of trickle-down. Since Kabila's rebellion the DRC is a destabilised mess, full of rebels, some of them taking what they plunder fully overseas.

    • @theonly6359
      @theonly6359 Před 4 lety

      Tomás Tumino Somehow I believe that Kabila hates Congo 🇨🇩

  • @vincentsebina7182
    @vincentsebina7182 Před 4 lety +1

    Why wasn't this maintained for further purposes?

  • @goofsterngafster8411
    @goofsterngafster8411 Před 3 lety +2

    Bro say what you want but the vibes of those homes was too tier

  • @isibingotv2206
    @isibingotv2206 Před 5 lety +57

    its Mobutu not Mbutu and Zaire is not Zayire

    • @mosestsarai8565
      @mosestsarai8565 Před 5 lety +6

      Mbutu is more like it! I am Shona, and that word in my language is derogatory for the woman private part!! with many dictators raveging the African Continent, what a suitable name it is for one of them fallen villain or should I say scum of the Earth

    • @thehoneydeev
      @thehoneydeev Před 5 lety +3

      joseph kkabalila yes, you would think the first thing in their “research” would be to learn how to properly say the names of main characters at the heart of their documentary 👀🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @zacharyhenderson2902
      @zacharyhenderson2902 Před 5 lety +3

      @@thehoneydeev they're French, and certain words are pronounced differently in that language

    • @kmodiselle1
      @kmodiselle1 Před 5 lety

      @@zacharyhenderson2902 you pronounce a name as is. Irrespective of dialect.

    • @zacharyhenderson2902
      @zacharyhenderson2902 Před 5 lety +2

      @@kmodiselle1 not true. George is pronounced 'hor-hay' in Spanish, Joshua is spelled and pronounced I-esus (Jesus) in Latin, etc., etc.

  • @kakoozapeter9797
    @kakoozapeter9797 Před 10 měsíci

    how i wish someone in east african country knows this, the guy has been a president since 1986 up to now

  • @allthingsspontaneous491
    @allthingsspontaneous491 Před 4 lety +2

    He kept saying Gabandalight 😁💔

    • @mazuba10
      @mazuba10 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, meanwhile it's pronounced Badoleeteh

  • @robertswaleh8100
    @robertswaleh8100 Před 4 lety

    Zairean strongman...

  • @jahglemanvibes
    @jahglemanvibes Před 3 lety +1

    Huge opportunity to create a thriving economy out of the strucure that has stayed domant for over 21 years.

  • @irfanbash
    @irfanbash Před 4 lety

    Wake up, dear Congo people. Follow your own self. Don't let anyone dictate you. Dictators are not worth-praising. Educate your children to attain health and progress. Be proud Africans.

  • @josianebk5217
    @josianebk5217 Před 3 lety

    I hope you in France 24 will soon make the same kind of documentary about the leaders of Rwanda ( if you dare), Uganda, Burundi, Congo-Brazzaville, Cameroun, South Aftica/Jacob Zuma, Gabon and so on.
    I hope also that you can make the same thing about Sarkozy, France-Afrique and how the western countries invaded Lybia , causing chaos and creating poverty and desolation.
    I hope you can make the same kind of programme on how the USA invaded Irak and Afghanistan
    And I hope you will make a documentary on how Europeans invaded the rest of the world then, plundring, exploiting and stealing their natural ressources in differents forms up to day...

  • @vuzaragodwin629
    @vuzaragodwin629 Před 2 lety +1

    Make a documentary about sakorzy's and Leopold's war crimes as well.

  • @davidthiwa1073
    @davidthiwa1073 Před 4 lety +4

    Just as an aside: his name is not "EM-buto" but Mobutu with a U at the end ("Mo-Boot-ooh")

    • @donwaltz2798
      @donwaltz2798 Před 3 lety

      His real name was joseph mobuto

    • @BeeBwakka
      @BeeBwakka Před 3 lety +1

      @@donwaltz2798 his real name was Joseph-Désiré Mobutu

  • @jigarsescon1750
    @jigarsescon1750 Před 4 lety

    Hmmpp... Torch is missing why is it like that?

  • @blackenclave957
    @blackenclave957 Před 3 lety +1

    France really miss Mobutu

  • @nkyabosi4827
    @nkyabosi4827 Před 4 lety

    Mortal man

  • @Joobajuba
    @Joobajuba Před 5 lety +15

    You made him evil. These typ of none sence is over. Hypos! Please live Congo alone

    • @Joobajuba
      @Joobajuba Před 5 lety +1

      @bishap global86 am not in Europé idot

    • @felicia4409
      @felicia4409 Před 3 lety

      he was evil wtf

    • @Joobajuba
      @Joobajuba Před 3 lety

      @@felicia4409 wtf is wrong with your head

  • @paulnantulya
    @paulnantulya Před 5 lety +9

    Gosh, this fellow cannot even pronounce "Mobutu". What a shame

  • @Emmanuel967-c2m
    @Emmanuel967-c2m Před 2 lety

    Everything is indeed vanity.. Live your life responsibly.

  • @isaackidega1790
    @isaackidega1790 Před 5 lety +3

    Museveni of Uganda had accumulated lots of ill gotten but all that means nothing. He will leave behind everything like Mobutu

  • @misspascale9447
    @misspascale9447 Před 5 lety +6

    this reporter has no clue how to say Mobutu's name. He butcher's it so badly that if it were not for the images of Mobutu I would have thought that he was referring to someone else.

  • @thecornerofdelicacies2518

    Thats what happen's when you hold power for so long.tell the mtf to leave the grave and come rule again.

  • @waza_bangaodd8701
    @waza_bangaodd8701 Před 5 lety +2

    Miss his Pharaonic side. Authenticity✊🏾😭

    • @mrttripz3236
      @mrttripz3236 Před 5 lety +1

      Do you know anywhere that a person can find an English translation of the manifesto of n'sele?

    • @waza_bangaodd8701
      @waza_bangaodd8701 Před 5 lety +1

      Which one? He had to make a lot of speeches or manifesto at N’sele. I guess you may find it online « internet ». Try to google it

    • @mrttripz3236
      @mrttripz3236 Před 5 lety

      @@waza_bangaodd8701 I have but I cannot find an English translation

  • @nealblanchett2621
    @nealblanchett2621 Před 2 lety

    What a story. All that wealth, wasted, in ruins

  • @Sam1jere
    @Sam1jere Před 3 lety +1

    An interesting documentary where the scripted narrative is at odds with what the people interviewed are saying. Mobutu Sese Seko is a hero to the interviewees, while portrayed as a villain to the narrator. I do wish the ruling regimes would build on the foundations here instead of neglect. Sadly, this will hardly ever be done due to the partisan nature of politics and political interests. Sad.
    Of course, this does not excuse atrocities that were committed, and the widespread looting of state resources. This is hindsight in review. God remember the beautiful nation and a people who have got a very raw deal from the hand of politics. The potential that remains in this land is frightening.

  • @elleno4119
    @elleno4119 Před 3 lety +1

    Lol.. when the guy says he worked hard and woke up early to know the general mood of country.Hillarious. Thieves work hard too?

  • @waltermachnicz5490
    @waltermachnicz5490 Před 3 lety +1

    Building from the top down. Ends badly.

  • @ayyodele
    @ayyodele Před rokem

    Lumumba's spirit is seriously haunting these people.

  • @rolandonwuka4331
    @rolandonwuka4331 Před 3 lety +2

    Sisi seko..

  • @hezronchweya4990
    @hezronchweya4990 Před 4 lety

    time time mr

  • @owdaniel8082
    @owdaniel8082 Před 4 lety +1

    Wasted resources. That could make a good hotel museum for DRC.. a mega dollar investment

  • @alcd6333
    @alcd6333 Před 5 lety +15

    The Belgian Congo is physically a magnificent place. It could be a grand paradise, but it needs a democracy. It also requires capital investments which do not end up in the accounts of corrupt rulers.

    • @kotare86
      @kotare86 Před 4 lety +16

      Belgian Congo? Should we refer to Belgium as the German Belgium because it was once occupied by Germany?

    • @solari251
      @solari251 Před 3 lety +2

      "It also requires capital investments which do not end up in the accounts of corrupt rulers."
      That is the reason why African countries are incapable of taking off. The money just keeps ending up in the wrong hands.

    • @gemb7986
      @gemb7986 Před 3 lety +5

      It’s not Belgian Congo. It’s the CONGO

    • @alanmakoso1115
      @alanmakoso1115 Před 2 lety

      Belgian Congo was trash. Blacks are forced into Catholicism and can only attend primary education.

    • @SantiagoGeffen
      @SantiagoGeffen Před rokem +1

      Belgian Congo? Dude, the Congo has been a sovereign country for years. Have some respect 🙏

  • @denismutabazi
    @denismutabazi Před 4 lety

    What about France's and Belgium?