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- The Biggest Climber Disaster - Jim Geiger, a 68-year-old man from Sacramento, Calif., attempts to become the oldest living American to summit Mount Everest.
The Biggest Climber Disaster (2020)
Director: Steven Oritt
Stars: Jim Geiger, Liz Hawley, Ang Tshering Lama
Genre: Documentary
Country: United States
Language: English
Also Known As: Accidental Climber
Release Date: August 11, 2020 (United States)
Filming Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Synopsis:
The Film tells the story of Jim Geiger, a retired forest-worker, and amateur mountaineer from Sacramento, CA who at 68 years old, attempts to become the oldest American and first great grandfather to summit Mt. Everest. The film follows Jim as he embarks on a journey to transform from a weekend hiker to attempting one of the most extreme and physically demanding feats known to man. Driven by a desire to prove that age is just a number, Jim pushes his body to the limits, in a record-breaking quest to summit the world's tallest mountain. What ensued, however, was the worst disaster in mountaineering history, leaving sixteen climbers dead in a tragic avalanche and forever changing Jim's life.
Reviews:
"This year has been tough and amazing, just like the star of "Accidental Climber," Jim Geiger. It's so inspiring to see the story of his journey and watch as it leads him to the most important thing in his life, his family. It reminds all of us of our priorities. I've already watched it two times in three nights and can't imagine I won't watch it again a time or two this weekend. Jim is an inspiring person and he really does make you want to better your family, your health and your faith. Share this with everyone you know. It's the best thing to watch to make you forget the frustrations of life."
- written by "L.A. Hicks" on IMDb.com
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My heart goes out to the sherpas and their families. Rest In Peace. ❤
Thank you for your virtue signalling, much needed.
He would not have made it. The tragedy probably saved his life.
I agree, though I'm not so sure he ever fully intended to do it. I think he enjoyed all of the attention, but wasn't about to risk it all.
It takes an incredible amount of strength to admit that you’re not ready and turn around. I think one of the biggest problems is people on Everest push themselves and ignore their bodies and this mountain doesn’t forgive. When there is 100-200 people on the mountain, you’re putting your guides and everyone else trying to climb at risk by being physically unprepared for the trip. Knowing your limits and calling off a climb that you’ve prepared for for months-years is not an easy feat. He deserves a lot of praise for this strength.
RdR r rr
Yep good he turned around .. didnt like him from the start .. at least he was not part of a bigger problem
I think also the money that people pay is a factor that pushes them on because there are no refunds and it's not like they can easily come back again. It may have made his choice to not continue a little easier as his trip was not self-funded.
I hear you, but it looked to me like it was very clear to him (he even said as much on camera) after the attempt on the icefall that he was seriously under-prepared for Everest. Even aside from his not acclimating to the air pressure. It was clear before that on Lobuche where he couldn’t go up with the group, and only made it the next day with a Sherpa literally pushing his butt up. Maybe if he’d trained at altitude back in the US for a couple months, like in Colo, instead of Sacramento, he’d have had enough red blood cells to handle it better 🤷🏼♀️
I know. They feel like a failure if they don't summit Everest when climbing 90% of Everest is higher than almost everything else on Earth.
Quite disappointing he evaded the simple fact he was at his limit at base camp and had zero chance of ascending above it. He led everyone to believe the tragedy stopped his bid to the summit. Anyone watching this especially his great grandchildren will come to the same conclusions.
While I admire his will power to attempt that climb I don't feel as though they should've let him. He had a hard time climbing a ladder at low altitude. Honestly this video would've been better if it were dedicated solely to the poor Sherpa's and their families no offense. The poor Sherpa's that lost their lives trying to provide for their families deserves all the attention and recognition here. R.I.P. Sherpa's and may your families get blessed many times over throughout their lives. So sorry for your losses!
Absolutely! Agree 100%
What they should do is require the climbers to pay the sherpas to help them prep for the climb and then do it on their own. Sherpa tax
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“47 CHILDREN” affected from all the deaths! It’s hard to wrap my mind around this!
As I watch this in 2023, I pray all the children affected are doing well.
I’m truly sorry, for your loss.
He found out that he could not climb Everest and came back in one piece..... glad he had a safe return.
It’s a good thing that this man didn’t attempt Everest he would have never made it. He was winded at base camp and struggled to get through a couple
Ladders he would have killer himself. People need to have more respect for that mountain. Only a 69 year old who has climbed for decades could survive those altitudes. The closing of the season saved face for this guy he wouldn’t have made it to the first step. It didn’t appear to me that he even wanted to be there it was like a commitment he made and didn’t want to back out of
Right?
Exactly!!!
your statement above "Only a 69 year old who has climbed for decades could survive those altitudes...) is maybe intuitive but not accurate. The oldest American to summit Everest was 75 years old (Art Muir in 2021). He started mountaineering at age 68. However, on his first attempt he failed because he wan't adequately prepared (like Jim) and tweaked his ankle. In fact, Jim had "decades" of experience in the mountains, unlike Art Muir.
@@noblesummits you know there is always that person in the group that has to pick extreme anomalies just for argument sake. If a 1000 people with no experience at 68 attempted to climb mt.. Everest 99.9% of them would fail or he dead. I once saw where a girl was thrown out of car at high speed and ended up hanging from a high voltage power line. With her leg torn off her arm nearly torn off and many other injuries. She hung there until rescue could get he down. The burns cauterized her wounds and she is alive today. She by all accounts should have died but she didn’t there are exceptions to everything. If we look at the history of this 68 year old man who started climbing late I would bet that there are some exceptional accomplishments or habits that prepared him long ahead of time. If it’s true. but you left out any of those details with the exception of the details that support your argument. We did however get to see for ourselves what this man was working with and he would have never made that climb he like many others on Everest today are little more than an ego with disposable income. Or in one word a liability… to everyone else.
this isnt determination or courage, its delusion. i think to myself "has no one ever put this guys ego in check, at all, ever? has no one ever said no to him?" look at the sherpas dragging him up a mountain he is 1000% unable to climb without ridiculous amounts of constant assistance. guys like this need to stop kidding themselves. its utterly ludicrous
He's a narcissistic coward, he can't hide the fact he is happy and relieved that 16 sherpas died so he doesn't have to admit he was never even going to make it out of Base Camp let alone summit. What a creep.
I was really surprised to see the sherpas literally pushing his ass up the training mtn way before base camp.
Right 100% The guy is a total bullshit artist and a big lier! These kind of people put the serious true heroes at life threatening risks?? He should of pulled the plug way before he even boarded the plane in California, but no he wanted to see how far he could take it??? He's an Asshole for real that's the only truth about him if you ask me!!!
Man you are so right and you said it all in one word " he's delusional" but you also forgot another word"Asshole" I don't get these people anymore and how he even made it as far as he did is absolutely astonishing too me??
When I saw the Sherpa assistance I knew he would never make it up Everest. Jim isn’t the only person to be affected by altitude at the lower levels and he won’t be the last. It’s not your age but how your body reacts to altitude.
Major problem in mountaineering is people that think they are mountaineers for the sole fact that they have money.
Or is the main problem that real mountaineers and Sherpa’s will accept money from wealthy people who aren’t mountaineers to help them do things that only mountaineers ought to do?
On the other hand, an avalanche will kill you whether you are an elite mountaineer, or a wealthy person with no experience. You just need to be in the wrong place at the right time.
@@whoisthispianist194A little from column A and a little from column B...
Would you steal bread to feed your starving family. If your not from there, grew up there, or even been there you have no Idea what your talking about
Agreed…bunch of bored rich people that have no regards for other people’s safety …
Those people like Jim should never be on the Mountain. They endanger themselves but mostly others!
He is using the excuse of those deaths as why he didn’t climb Everest. Being able to say “I can’t do it” would be a braver thing to do.
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
Man it took too long to find a truthful comment. "Crap, my entire documentary of me summiting is me quitting at the start. Oh, people died the day after I quit? Yeah that's why I quit, the respect to my family......."
Agreed. Disgusting really.
Did you notice that later when he returned to the school kids, he asked “are you going to climb Everest?,” one kid replied, “No, I don’t want to die,” and Jim said something like, “Well, I’m still here,” as if in his mind he actually did climb Everest. (Or would have, could have, if not for the disaster.)
I don’t think ego is something butter candles can resolve, it’s part of the human condition for many people, especially those who are drawn to high-risk sports.
Still, a very well done doc despite all the in-your-face beer advertising.
@@pixels2uspot on regarding the beer commercial 😅
I'm a native Coloradoan who's lived here my whole life. Altitude matters. No amount of working out prepares your body for "thinner" air, especially when you live at sea level. He would have benefitted from living in Colorado for a couple of years and hiking our Fourteeners. Of course you're lethargic, dude.
Amen to that! A lot of my family moved there in the last couple years and I still live in Dallas. Which is around 600 ft When I went to visit my sister immediately took me backpacking to conundrum springs. And I bout died. Couldn’t breathe right for a day. Haha. Beautiful hike tho!
He had Lake Tahoe and the Sierra Nevada Mountains right there. It showed him hiking in the mountains at the start but then was doing all his training in Sacramento.
Good decisions for Jim not to continue. There is no shame in turning back, you save yourself and your family from grieving. 👍❤️
I admire his courage, but it doesnt matter how much you train, 67 is still 67.
The Khumbu Icefall, crossing over crevasses, avalanches, slips and falls, high winds blowing you off the mountain, freezing and not surviving the death zone are all ways Everest can and will kill you.
Making it back alive and losing extremities due to frostbite is still a loss.
For me, the risk just isn’t worth the reward. But I support those who think it is.
J'arrive à peine du Camp de Base de l'Everest d'où j'ai été évacué par hélico le lendemain d'une consultation avec deux médecins du Camp. J'étais malade depuis plusieurs jours, entre autres à cause d'une intoxication quelconque. J'ai monté les deux derniers jours avec aucun aliment dans le ventre car je ne gardais plus rien. Et malgré un niveau d'oxygénation vraiment bon, c'était incroyablement difficile.
Ce documentaire me touche particulièrement, surtout quand Jim nous parle de l'Ego. Évidemment, dans mon cas, je n'étais pas là pour le sommet, cependant il y a toujours des risques dans des conditions extrêmes et on doit faire confiance aux professionnels quand on nous dit que c'est assez. J'ai 60 ans et j'ai heureusement écouté cette petite voix qui m'a dit de ne pas m'entêter et partir.
Quelques jours plus tard, une dame s'est retrouvée un peu dans les mêmes circonstances que moi et n'a pas voulu écouter les médecins et partir, et elle est décédée 6 jours plus tard au Camp de Base. Je ne la jurerai sûrement pas, mais heureusement pour moi j'ai compris ce que Jim Geiger nous a livré comme témoignage.
Je suis de retour au Québec (Canada) auprès de mes enfants et petits-enfants, à savourer chaque moment présent comme le plus beau des cadeaux, vivant avec l'Essentiel et en pleine santé.
Merci à Cosmos pour ce magnifique partage.
Et merci aux 4 Sherpa qui m'ont guidé à chaque pas de mon trekking. Avril-Mai 2023.
Namaste.
Laying a ladder on the ground gives you no understanding of how the ladder will flex and move with each step, nor will it train your balance.
(From above )
He should have had the ladder on saw horses 36 inches off the ground.
Maybe, just maybe, instead of all of the steroids he was taking (allegedly) he should have thrown some road work in there.
@@kastaway2 I thought he was pretty buffed. Most likely you are right. What do you mean by road work?
It's probably more than what some do to prepare.
Jogging. Cardio.
@@kastaway2 He said he was doing 6-8 hour bike rides and 20 hour days when he spoke to his team. He probably avoided jogging due to his knees at his age. I don't know what to make of it all unless he was just making it all up! He should have had enough gas with all the training he claimed yet he was gassed just getting to base camp. Someone here suggested Colorado to prepare, probably a good idea.
Poor guy was a mess before he even got to base camp.
Takes a lot more courage to admit defeat than to push on and potentially bring other people down with you.
This guy couldn't have make it he said 1 day before the sherpas died he was under prepared and then said it was sad they didn't got a shot, lets be honest there is no way he was going to try again, my heart goes to all those sherpas dying over the years for the westerners ambition, i know is their job but they are more prepared than any western climbers its just so sad when they die because they do it because they have to, to survive to help support their families may they rest in peace.
As someone who works in a nursing home caring for people his age, this is incredibly impressive to me. The fact that he even attempted this is amazing. He has wonderful dedication and more courage and determination than most young people do. Say what you will about his training process, good on him for trying.
He should be applauded for knowing his limits and realizing he cannot accomplish this goal and chose to go home. People die on this mountain.
You are so right Clare!
I agree with you, Clare L, I agree.
Why in the world would someone his age be in a nursing home?
@@molliwilson5639 Unfortunately, there are a lot of severely debilitating diseases which can make a person old before their time.
The greatest ability in mountaineering is to know when you have to turn 180 degrees and go down. Yes. Exactly. Very good documentary. I feel bad for the families who lost their loved ones. Thanks ❤
This guy was incapable to climb the mountain. Not even oroper training, ie in mountain climbing and altutude. He had 0 skills needed. Just going to the gym snd stuff.....it's like living in fairy land. At least he had the sense to see that quickly. He however was being held by pride and was struggling with how to handle that. The disaster gave him the "out" he wanted. But he should have admitted that he wasnt prepared nor capable.
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All the people who are like "I am the oldest, I have a pacemaker, I have never climbed" Stay home! It's dangerous enough as it is
This guy is the last person on earth I would hire for life coaching. At the end of this documentary he STILL fails to admit he would NEVER have summited, that he was falling apart physically well before base camp and I'm sure he continues to lie to himelf and others that, were it not for the tragedy, he actually had a shot at the summit. He hasn't banished ego for love, he is stacking ego on top of ego thinking he now has something to teach people about achieving their goals.
100% agree. And well said.
"All about me and my emotions.. Even 16 butterlamps..."
I Jumped in here to say this. I wonder what he teaches in his life coaching sessioons? How to talk shit about doing something you have zero qualifications for and then failing miserably at it? Hey, Jim, age isn't just a number. If you're pushing 70 years old, you better have some serious mountaineering experience before you decide to take someone else's money and attempt 8,000+ meters. Hiking around Sacremento and climbing a 4,500 meter peak is not preparation for 8,800 meters.
I thought he’s teaching people how to deal with NOT reaching their dream. That’s pretty unique! ;)
@kathleen…Those are many assumptions you are making.
37:53 These Sherpas are so on it with their chants, they sound like they’re about to drop a fire ass mixed tape.
The company that accepted him as a client was hugely irresponsible. He looked very fragile. He had no chance and I doubt he had the mounteneering resume that ideally should be necessary to climb an 8000m peak.
That Everest money is good, old, money. They have a hard time saying no to retired, old, rich white men. If they die, there's little to answer for.
I agree. I think he even said himself he doesn't have any experience
As a 63 year old woman I admire this guys ambition. We still have dreams and goals, our minds tell us we can still do the things we did when we were younger but our bodies say that’s enough and it is difficult to accept. He made the smartest decision of his life turning around, RESPECT!
Same.
It's Amazing too watch people climb it's Beautiful i would never do that not appealing too Me.
Yes, same…
I am 53 austrian born and I climb. Those lathers scare the crap out of me! I can do the mountains.. its no shame to turne around.. I done it many of times.. I did highest with no propblem several times in a year Pikes Peak.. all the way up to collect my rocks..lol..an old lady but I breath the best all the way up thete at 16000 plus feet.. do not understand that one.. but I feel the best at that altitude!
Also..he is training.. but not in the altitude.. thats the importands.. he should gone to Colorado..Montana..Alaska... high up.. in the mountains!!
So.... 16 Sherpas died and that saved this old man's life!! Pathetic how they use Sherpas. This is one of the most selfish people I have ever seen.
Money talks. If people with more money then brains didn't feel the need to climb a mountain as big as their egos, tragedies like this wouldn't happen.
@@tevilpeacock9552 - very well said.
He wasn't going up anyway. He realized that before the tragedy.
He actually says "and maybe it was even a better ending this way". What, it was a good thing that 16 sherpas died so you don't have to admit you were never EVER going to make it to Camp 1, never mind summit? Can he not hear what he said? What an absolutely disgusting human being. I can't believe anyone is hiring this loser as a life coach unless he is teaching "how to fail and lie to the world about it"
I’m not quite as old as this guy and I don’t drink, smoke or have a weight problem. No diseases like diabetes, heart disease or cancer yet I still know that I’m not what I was just 15 years ago. My recovery from strenuous activity is much longer and my endurance is much shorter. Being honest with one’s self, especially men, is a difficult thing to do. If money were not an object and I had all the time in the world to prepare it still wouldn’t overcome father time. I now find satisfaction and happiness in watching my children raise their children and try to be a positive influence in their lives. There’s nothing on top of a mountain that makes me feel more complete as a person.
“WE didn’t have a shot at it …” 57:40. No sir, YOU didn’t have a shot at it. If you were honest there would have been more respect for your journey.
47 children who will forever live without their father 😭.
The truth hurts and is less popular than ever these days. But…I’m old school so here it comes. Dude is absolutely a nice man. No question about it. But……. His ego is still writing checks that his body can’t cash. He was never……under any circumstances, going to summit Everest. I’ll be 61 in three days and people who see me can’t believe it. I’m a former Army paratrooper, a retired LAPD officer and am very capable of doing shit that most guys my age can’t. There is no way that I could summit Everest…..no matter how long and hard I trained. Jim was winded on the hiking trail in the states. He was burnt out getting to base camp. The truth is….. he had clearly made up his mind NOT to attempt a summit before and during his phone call home. To use the accident as a cover is at the very least, disingenuous. He probably hates himself for letting his imminent backing out of the climb out just before a tragedy that he could have used as a believable excuse. But I saw it very clear. He was done. And that is nothing to be ashamed of. The shame is using the deaths of those fine people as a cover for his obvious inability to ever set foot on the summit. People with huge egos are plentiful. I don’t like em
I agree with absolutely every point in your comment.
My respect for this man who tried to summit (and return) would have been unwavering if he said he decided against continuing his ascent. It was obvious he was short of breath and exhausted.
But to exploit the accident is wrong. And it was transparent. All I could see and hear was ego.
On a lighter note, I have to use that line about my mind writing a check the body can't cash.
You said what I wanted to say, but better. Now my comment seems angry, lol.
@brenreidy8763 Now I'm looking for your comment...
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Found it. Not bad. Direct and to the point...
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@@amyepstein4868awesome comment and I couldn’t help but laugh at him creeping across that dangerous ladder 😂😂😂😂😂😂
We just watched Jims spiritual journey with the Hymalayas. The mountain taought him something quite profound about RESPECT - on all levels. Family, himself, the mountain, nature, the sherpas and the spirit. Very glad that Jim took the time to pay respect to the sherpas via their own spiritual beliefs . Respect
People need to see full videos of the Khumbu ice falls and the crevasses, so dangerous before attempting this. Its no joke. And God bless the sherpas!
What can you say . No country for old men. People nowadays really seem to think Everest is a walk in the park. No wonder so many people die up there. Be a little realistic and humble. Honestly , i don't celebrate his "courage and dedication. He overestimated his capability which is a potential risk for others who would have to get him down in case of emergency...... hell man , you are 68 years old , what the hell did you expect....?
"I'm going to be the oldest American to climb Everest"
.......Nope
I find the Everest journey so fascinating. I wish I had the time, money, but most importantly, courage and no fear of heights. 😂
I agree with you, but I think the walk to base camp would be adventure enough for me 😂
You live once so why wish and starting doing
I am binge watching them, sucks that I am running out.
It is fascinating. I just don't think it's worth the risk of losing fingers, hands or a foot as so many have to frost bite.
It's absolutely the most beautiful and dangerous place on earth. I wish I could save up the money. But 40-75 grand just isn't happening unless I sell my cars and house. Just not realistic
He should have known his “limitations” before he started all of the publicity. This guy appears narcissistic.
You hit the nail on the head.
He started the publicity...
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I agree 100% He believed all his own hype. Even saying he’d climbed Everest before he’d even attempted it.
What a touching video and I'm so sorry for the lives that were lost 😢
Jim says - I am fighting the demon - the voice in my hrad that says me thst I am too old and I can't do it anymore...
I think it's not a demons voice - it's the voice of reason.
Even when you are sane and in good shape, you are really to old to do some things.
There is a reason why there are not 50 or 60 years old gymnasts at the olympics.
There is a age limit for every physical activity that require a high level atlethism.
He probably doesn’t think he’ll die
Some people refuse to age gracefully so they FAFO - I'm 62 and I still participate in many of the sports I was competitive in at a younger age - but at a certain point you have to accept that ageing will affect performance and be OK with that otherwise you are just acting the fool. Cut the BS "he knew where to turn around" he couldn't handle the practice hike without a sherpa pushing his a$$ up the hill, his legs were shakey on the first ladder IMO he should never have started in the icefield because it is obvious to me he was putting other people at risk. Don't celebrate him for his "brave decision" he is a coward, he refused to admit to news sources he had ALREADY decided not to climb, he was SO glad there was a tragic accident that took the decision out of his hands so he could save face. He actually states "it's a different ending than we had hoped and maybe a better ending" So 16 sherpas dying is preferable to him having to take responsibility and accountability and admit that there was never any chance on God's Green Earth that he would have summited??? FFS. PS I'm no relation to him
@@kathleengeiger7083At least he tried……..and learned a life lesson in the process to better enjoy his time, at home, with his family.
RIP to the Sherpas who lost their lives…..
To each their own……..
To all Sherpas 🙏❤️
Rest in peace to all the brave and dedicated Sherpa, prayers for strength and peace for their families. Bless them for their sacrifices.
An incredible documentary. Very sad for the loss of the Sherpas. Thank you Jim for sharing your story with all of us. Very inspiring as I live in the PNW and share the love of hiking. At 56 I have large goals for myself and this was a boost after watching this to help me with a mindset that I needed. It’s ok to know when your body is at a breaking point. Your a stronger person to know your limitations.
I must be watching a different video than some.
He quit climbing based on how his body was responding to the thin air and lack of oxygen.
If you've ever been high on a mountain, you know about not feeling like you can breathe or catch your breath.
Very wise of him to quit. He knew his limitations.
I admire that he even tried. And admire him for quitting at the right time as well.
Maybe you are watching a different video because he didn't quit. He pretended that there was an option for him to push for the summit - while there was no way he would have made it to Camp 1.
Looks to me like he didn’t nearly train hard enough.
Not even close, lol.
Great documentary! My heart goes out to Jim for his determination and courage. Blessings to the brave sherpas who lost their lives, and their families.
Shouldn't have been there in the first place. These people bring themselves and others in danger
He was poorly trained. You don’t get ready for a climb by riding a bike or making big muscles. The training he did was woefully inadequate.
I’ve heard so many stories of the Sherpas getting short changed by clients at the end of the trip, all these Westerners can pony up the $ to go yet a guy gives his life and his family gets 15 K, they should be ashamed as a community
The woman crying and saying she told him not to go was incredibly sad. God bless them all
Jim's ego knows no bounds. It was evident from the first test ascent of a 6,100-meter peak, in which his sherpa had to drag him up, how unprepared he was for these conditions and altitude. I mean, it's not normal to need supplemental oxygen at base camp. Maybe if you're 68 and the only exercise you do is lift dumbbells with your personal trainer, climb the steps at the gym, and have an oxygen mask and backpack strapped to you on the treadmill while you're being filmed for TV. Maybe some steroids for muscle definition. I do not know. I also don't believe in the least about his 10-hour bike rides, which he boasted about at one point in the program. Even funnier was the head of the expedition company who pretended to believe him and urged him to do 12-15 hour bike rides. In the end, however, Jim attributed his inability to climb Mount Everest to the tragedy, as if that alone prevented him, rather than his physical shortcomings. The mentality of people like him - who think they are mountaineers just because they have money - is very dangerous. It's a good thing he didn't get a chance to try to climb to the top.
I hope the families of the residents are financially taken care of, it’s sad at how greedy governments are.
This is such a wonderful film. I am full of admiration for Jim and feel he accomplished his goal. He brought his body to its peak condition, which is the hard part, and the rest - adapting to altitude - is not under control of his will and determination, but of physiology/aging. I respect anyone who turns around when confronted with huge risks. To have continued may have put others in danger for ego's sake. You have to trust your gut!
HIs gut? I dont think an avalanche killed 12 sherpas is his "gut"
People do some very challenging things. I'm highly interested in knowing about their stories. Mt. Everest is one of the most daring challenges to take on. I just wanted to salute all those who have accomplished a successful journey.
Walking across a ladder that is on grass isn't going to improve your balance! I'm no mountaineer But i would of had the ladder at least a couple of meters off the ground. They way i see it is if i cant make it across a ladder suspended while in the safety of my backyard or if Im too scared that i might fall off then im certainly not capable of climbing Everest! I may fall and break a leg trying to balance across a ladder in my backyard which would suck but falling down a crevasse would suck a lot more. When it comes to training for Everest you either go hard or stay home!
He never had a chance to climb that mountain
The body is not equipped for that altitude and I don't understand why it's so hard for people to get that
At 68 you are no longer a Man.
You are an Old Man.
Instead of acting like a macho man it is much more fun and rewarding to have some humor with yourself.
Old men are frail and weak.
They are thin skinned and do not recover like a young person.
Better to enjoy your old age by sticking to what you can actually do.
This Jim Geiger, his Ego is big , but old men are frail and weak.
I was a Hawaii surfer and Tae Kwon Do Black Belt .
Now I walk my dog, cut the grass , and ride bicycle. It is a good life at 70 years .
What a stupid thing to say and absolutely wrong. I’m 69 and I have played sports all my life. I don’t planning on dying at 70. Do you live in a cave?
Jim really was in a great location to train. Sacramento is 2 hours from Lake Tahoe with the Sierra Nevada mountains all around. I ran 5ks up at Tahoe for years while I lived out there and when would come back to Virginia to visit family running a 5k was a breeze because of doing it at much higher elevation. It’s no Everest but it’s certainly an advantage over endurance training at sea level.
Edit: I don’t like how at the end he started saying the accident was the reason he didn’t get a chance to summit when the tape clearly showed he had already made that decision because he knew he’d never even make it to camp 1. Still impressive he got as far as he did. Awful for the Sherpa that the best way for them to support their families is to risk Mount Everest. Hope they got that fund setup.
I admire this man’s strength and perseverance with all his training. But it would be much more realistic if he put on his climbing boots while putting the ladder on the side of his house, like he was doing, only this time, put a plastic bag over your head to block off your breathing, because at 28,000 feet up, you only have a third of your oxygen. Plus it’s 30 below zero. People go there with a strong attitude thinking they will beat that mountain, the mountain claims them.
Ive read that people who live in high altitude places have an easier time. Even when I go to a 7-8,000 mountain near home I can feel the difference. This guy lives at sea level. He could have spent a month or so up in the Tahoe area ahead of time and coulda helped but maybe age does just play this big a factor no matter how fit you are. He could have built some of the red blood cells ahead of time.
Agree. Just watched him train at the gym with one of those "elevation training masks," which do not actually simulate elevation. He should have spent some time at elevation and taken some mountaineering courses rather than aerating his lawn and cleaning his gutters in crampons.
I don't think I would pick a body builder as my trainer.
The complete lack of proper form when lifting weights!!! Neither he nor his "trainer" had a clue what they were doing.
Not talking about this case but the body of the coach has nothing to do with knowledge...im on the business,i know top level bodybuilding pt's that are skin and bone.
About the form...Look at Arnold Schwarzenegger lifting weights,him and his buddies had no proper form executing the exercises and some of them are legends to this day@@kathleengeiger7083
This guy sounds just like the late great "Super Dave".
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OMG , spot on
Hi I’m Jim Geiger and I’ve been practicing for the big climb. Mount Everest at 68 years young! I know I can do it. I got a personal trainer, I ride my bicycle everyday with a weight in my backpack, I climb my ladder everyday, mind over matter, the trip is financed and I’m ready to go!
Arriving at Nepal: Hi I’m Jim Geiger again! Mind over matter! I’m ready for the history books! Here I come!
2 weeks later: Ohhh boy, hi folks! Jim Geiger here! Just getting my barings here! Sigh~~phew! Ahh, mind of Miami, ahhh matter, that is! Ok, phew!
2 miles from the base camp: Hi, ahhhh, phew! Ahhh Jim here, just acclimating to my surrounds! Ahhh, it’s, its, ahh, just the, ahh, acclimation process! That’s all.
1 mile from base camp: hi folks, Jim here! Ahhh, going through the acclimation process here, God! I’m exhausted! Can someone call an ambulance quick!
Jim being wheeled into base camp with oxygen mask: Ahhhh, ahh, I wanna go home!
So true, you made my day . i'll be laughing for days over this post. Funny stuff.
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lol bro
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Ego vs. ethics
Inexperienced people follow these highly trained people straight to their deaths and I'm just sitting here enjoying my warm cup of coffee in the safety of my little village
I wonder if Jim would have done better if he would have done his training in Colorado. I think training at a higher altitude would have helped him with acclimatization and stamina, just my two cents though
Not just getting used to high altitude but also train on advanced trail to train his motion and balancing or even do some small icefall climbing...this training on stairs is pretty much useless in regards to ascending mountains, when I saw his climbing technique I was expecting the worse 😢
@@jenshoefer7944 Totally agree with you! I also think the stair master thing is not very helpful either
@@jenshoefer7944 For sure, he would only be using muscle chains that fire when perfectly balanced all the time. I'm no expert, but I know this from going to the gym and being able to do heavy weights and then I try to climb a tree and suddenly I have a dozen muscles that I have never ever used! Every weak link is amplified. I imagine this would be the same but 100 times more.
….it wasn’t his physical condition that stopped him… it was the intimidation of Everest.
@@jesusisking8502 So true!!
So sad for the loss of so many..RIP to all
This is both sad and ridicolous....
I loved this .Tragic but the Sherpas took a stand finally
some of the remarks on here are just brutal and uncalled for. great documentary, great dedication and effort and courage.
Ohhhh dear
That's all i can say
The doctor said that Jim's blood oxygen saturation level was 84. For any of us, that would be a bad thing, as it should normally be 97-100 for a healthy person. Now I'm curious about what it would be for a professional mountaineer; someone capable of summiting. What a sad story this is.
Lol hypoxia is hypoxia. Anything below 100 is low. At summit it can range from 88-92% but that's still low and considered hypoxic. Your organs shut down below 80%.
@@RavingKats My O2 level is often 97 and I am a physically fit, healthy person. My temperature and blood pressure also tend to be slightly lower than average.
There's a documentary where they did an oxygen study. Healthy climbers at camp 2 had oxy levels of 60% without supplemental oxygen.
Edit: the study was done on Everest
@@SilverLady52I saw that documentary and they also said that those climbers were in about the same range as somebody dying at sea level. How they get to the summit in that condition amazes me.
That’s actually great at altitude.
"I´m way under-prepared". He was right.
After watching him on the ladders at home I'm surprised he made it to base camp.
👏 Thank you for posting this remarkably well-done documentary! It has all the elements that make it memorable: a good human story following Jim and his preparations, nice videography of what’s involved in getting to the Everest Base Camp*, his difficult acclimatization climb to Lobuche Peak and not feeling well at the Base Camp, the tragedy of 15 brave Sherpas losing their lives in the Khumbu Icefall and its aftermath, and finally the realization on Jim’s part as to what’s important in life.
* I really enjoyed the footage of the Everest Base Camp trek because it helped me relive the wonderful experience I had last October going on the EBC trek.
Ladder training in the backyard of his house was not enough…
He should have had the ladder on saw horses 36 inches off the ground.
Maybe, just maybe, instead of all of the steroids he was taking (allegedly) he should have thrown some road work in there.
i think his age was more of a factor than under preparation.....
If someone was on steroids, I wonder how that might affect acclimating to high altitudes.
Such tragedy but also a blessing for Jim to open his eyes and actually realize that he couldn’t do it. That be on camp 3 and 4 and hard to get help! Hoping the families that lost their loved ones are being helped. My heart goes out to them even if it’s 2024. God bless them. ❤
He didn’t have to tell people he couldn’t climb the mountain because he couldnt even make it through a few of the climbs. He looked like he was barely walking around the camp in the beginning. The avalanche saved him from telling people he just couldn’t do it. But the real story should be on the sherpas. The Sherpas are the real legends here. Past & present. They should be getting the big bucks instead of the government. Many Sherpas lost their lives so people can say they made it to the top. It is sad they don’t get the recognition they should have. My sincere condolences to the families of the Sherpas who lost their lives🌻🌻
Documentary on old guy who didn't climb everest
Do you mean a documentary on a guy who wasn't going to climb Everest?
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Well said!
Well, look at it this way, he couldn’t cut the mustard, but he sure can lick the jar! 😂
I am in awe of of these crazy adrenaline junkies....❤❤❤❤ god bless some of these sherpas and their bravery
some peeps aren't made for high altitude... gf and I flew into 4000+ metres.. that night i had head aches she had nothing... just genetics... re the sherpas... everyone knows it's a dangerous job.. and everyone knows families must be supported... therefore .. all guiding companies and the government should have mandatory insurance scheme.. for injured or dead sherpa ... and not a few bucks but bucks that match the cost of the license and guiding.. ie 100k + for death
My friend from work. He told me as a child when he lived at home. He talked about the beautiful view of Mount Everest. From his school window as a child.
Altitude can kick your ass, and it's hard at first to figure it out. I'd hiked at altitude (volcanoes in Costa Rica), was very fit. While I felt fine, my legs just stopped working. At age 54, I was tripping out of my mind in Cusco, Peru, feeling drunk the entire time. My brain was as off line as my body. While I'd love to go to Everest Base Camp, and only to Base Camp to interview climbers, I know that I wouldn't even make it. Kudos to Jim for recognizing his limits and for the respect he showed to those who died.
It was sure from the beginning that jim would Not make it. He was out of breath on that Forest Trail. Too old and too heavy. But a nice guy.
With an inflated ego and lied about his efforts after not making it thru the ice falls.
He wasn't even a nice guy, he is a narcissistic coward who hid behind the tragedy rather than admit he was completely and utterly shredded, physically, WELL before Base Camp. FFS the Sherpa literally pushed his fat a$$ up the training climb. Most telling moment, he says this was a better ending. He's glad 16 people died so he can lie to the world and say he would have summited "but for the tragedy". Buddy we can see your legs shaking at Base Camp altitude, you were never going to make Camp 1 never mind the summit.
You find out it’s not that simple, you to old. Stay off the mountain 😢
Just can’t put weights or bricks in a backpack and walk miles or climb a hill. And think you ready for place your not supposed to be. The man didn’t get close to the top and started having problems. He waste time and money, another man money 💰 it’s too expensive to play in that neck of woods
my admiration to Jim for recognizing his limitations and prioritizing his safety...I admire his strong will for pushing his dream of Everest as well. He was saved by his humility. RIP to the Sherpas and prayers to their families🙏🙏🙏🙏
looks like this guy got lucky...he was feeling/thinking like he didnt want to do it and the unfortunate sherpa accident happened. Seeing the video he looked releived and happy inside after the news of cancellation. his ego all gone when faced with reality. i wonder if he gave a big donation to the late sherpa families (he became popular and opened his own climbing company) becoz of this. who knows if he was alive???
Very well done documentary, he is so brave and seems like such a nice man
I know it’s expensive, but he really should’ve went 30 days before just to acclimate his body. I think they all make that mistake I would go 30 days prior and do the things I do at home for 30 days.
Delusional and ego. Guy would have killed someone. He quit before the tragedy and used it as an excuse. Couldn't admit it. Now coaches people. 5hats laughable!
The unpreparedness of this man makes me mad! What was he thinking?!!!
Beautiful.
Feel like this guy has a huge “ego” and used the disaster as a scapegoat and excuse as to why he didn’t climb Mt Everest. He would not have made it on a perfect week. Ill prepared…Weird documentary lol
I like how they made it look like my mans walked from Elk Grove to the American river
What an awesome and inspiring story!
His guides are awesome.
I'm a spiritual guy, but i think i could skip all the spiritual ceremonies and not feel like it's putting me in danger. They still do them, and the same amount of people die every year. Obviously it doesn't work.
This type of mountaineering is NOT fo the faint of heart.
He blew that other guy's money. Lol
Great doc... what a fascinating doc. Climbing often brings out selfish destructive qualities in people....
Climbing Mt everest would be the adventure of my life. I just don't have 30-40 grand to go. Maby someday
He said it cost 250.000
@Dawn BG yeah man I've looked online and it's between 40-60 for the average person. If your rich it can go up to 250k.
Never go with the cheapest option.
@@dawnbG never look like you have 250K to spare, or they will ask you for 250K
@Carmen_Rosabella Ah, words to live by. I couldn't agree more.
Especially on an incredibly inhospitable mountain. 🏔🗻🥶
I plan on being the first non grandma American to summit Mt Everest with a house cat. Hes steady, has a hood vertical leap, and sticks to stuff really well. I have been hiking in South Florida and going to YouFit to prepare.
Does the kitty wear crampons?
@melindahall5062 Unfortunately he had an accident and lost his left rear leg. But i still think we can get up there. The new motto is the first non Grandma American to scale Everset with a three legged house cat.
@@Tenebarum I’m sorry about the kitty’s leg. He’ll still get to climb Everest. I’m sure. Does he carry his own oxygen tank?….LOLOLOL👍🏼
@@melindahall5062 Kitties are born with crampons.