It’s very interesting considering in the first movie there’s a scene where jake says “the na’vi say every person is born twice” which might be what’s behind kiri’s birth, grace was probably the first human who could ever try to get transfigured and that’s what might make Kiri so special with her ability to control living things on pandora. I expect we’ll probably know the answer in either Avatar 3 (the seed bearer) or Avatar 5 (the quest for Eywa).
@@user-nz6eg5yu2k so? People can still feel emotionally connected to something, it's not real but the emotions and how it affects us is real and that's all that matters
The way I see it, the roots creating the neural link between Grace and her avatar are like a door between the two. The ceremony is essentially Mo’at holding the door open so that Grace could pass through. But remember: just because you hold the door for one person doesn’t mean that others won’t try to go through as well.
Maybe since Grace is with Aywa she is able to Influence certain things in Pandora. Perhaps thats why Kiri is the way she is. Grace is Kiri's connection to Aywa. Thats my theory
This scene where the *_ENTIRE_* Omaticaya clan gathered together and prayed to Eywa - all in an effort to save Grace's life - is still one of the most powerful scenes in Avatar for me!! 🥲
I think it’s a good thing that grace didn’t make it to her avatar because I think it was probably thanks to grace’s memories of the destruction of earth that caused eywa to intervene in the fight for Pandora
I think it's safe to say that's exactly what happened. Even Jake asked Eywa to do it: "If Grace is with you, look into her memories. See the world we came from. There's no green there. They killed their mother. And they're gonna do the same here.
SPOILERS but I think in the sequel they make it so she did make it into the avatar body, she just never woke up and threw a baby out. There's some amazing theories about where the next movies will go with that
@@angelpunch0 I don't think Grace really made it, although she was sort of reborn as Kira, it's not really her... In the scene where Kiri connects to Eywa she sees Grace there, in her "afterlife", maybe Kiri is the "essence" od Grace but still a different person with different memories etc.
EYWA: Whats up? Na'vi: Can you help her, she got shot? EYWA: Hmmmm let me see.........yeah not my build.....one of my elder sisters lost creations......i dont have the proper adapters for this terran mammal.....she's has lost too much blood.....dont have her peoples correct nutrient solutions........best i can do is back up her id and memory then repatch her with a copy into a youngling. But i have to keep the original for safe keeping. Na'vy: um what? Eywa: deep sigh......your not there yet....keep forgetting.... Dont worry about it she will be like you just wait she will be reborn soon.
From this scene when they were all calling out to Awah was calling out the entire planet’s heart. Using all that energy to save one person. But Grace was too weak to save herself and come back to her Avatar body. She ended up dying and became one with Awah.
"The Great Mother may choose to save all that She is, in this body." Didn't Eywa do that exactly? All the holy songs and ritual energy did exactly ask for Kiri to be concieved. So sad that the woman leading the ritual didn't had much faith and also said the ritual didn't work. Like she couldn't percieve and trust how mysterious the Godenergy works? But is Kiri Grace? Did Eywa know she would love to be child because the has a heart of a child with child-like curiousity? Or is Kiri Eywa herself? Who does the woman really mean with 'She' Or both? Grace was with Eywa and could have combined soul-energies with her before entering Kiri's body? 🤔 🤔
I think the last one is what happened. And I’m willing to bet Kiris epilepsy is actually a “everybody in the Navi has it” thing, just not as bad as her. As a sort of survival tool
0:21 you can see that the banshee's are even included probably the leonopteryx so i wonder if they do the same like there intelligent enough to connect to eywa themselves with there nural que's
I wonder if this practice originally started with the navi doing it to themselves? Like maybe someone in your family was sick, and you sacrificed yourself, allowing their soul to transfer into your healthy body, while you stayed with Ewa. It had to come from somewhere right? What was the purpose of the ceremony before humans arrived.
I can't remember the exact lines but it goes somewhere along this: Eywa we come before you for help (help her Eywa). We ask that you take this ones (Grace) soul (help her Eywa). And breathe her back to us (help her Eywa). Let her walk amongst us (help her Eywa). As one of the People (help her Eywa). Again not an exact translation but you get the gist.
3:25 (Jake sobs over Grace’s dead body) Jake: Grace, no! (Neytiri reaches over to comfort him.) Neytiri: Jake, I’m sorry. There is nothing we can do to save Grace now. She’s dead. Jake: But it wasn’t supposed to be like this. I feel so alone. Neytiri: You’re not alone. (Neytiri hugs Jake)
This scene hits totally different when you realize this is probably where Kiri (Grace’s Avatar’s daughter) was concieved 😮
I now just realize that! Having that place definitely changes your perspective on this scene compared to those in the second movie.
It’s very interesting considering in the first movie there’s a scene where jake says “the na’vi say every person is born twice” which might be what’s behind kiri’s birth, grace was probably the first human who could ever try to get transfigured and that’s what might make Kiri so special with her ability to control living things on pandora. I expect we’ll probably know the answer in either Avatar 3 (the seed bearer) or Avatar 5 (the quest for Eywa).
Omg
Pervert tree
U mean Kiri was a human dead girl into a Navi body ?
“I’m with her, Jake. She’s real.” That line always hits me in the feels 😭 RIP Grace Augustine
It's not real calm down
@@user-nz6eg5yu2kIt’s just a comment calm down.
@@user-nz6eg5yu2k so? People can still feel emotionally connected to something, it's not real but the emotions and how it affects us is real and that's all that matters
I'm so happy she got to see the Tree of Souls before she died.
Yeah about that...
@@maadamardear9394 yeah I mean granted it knocked her up...but still. 😆
"I need to take some samples." Still love Grace's line there.
Grace : "I need to take some sample"
Eywa planning on conceiving Kiri : "That would be me, actually"
I love how netiri went the extra mile to adjust graces arms and legs so she could lay comfortable 🥺
I love how the Na'vi and specially Neytiri and Mo'at treat Grace so gently and carefully it's just... awwww...
Grace was an amazing person she deserved to be an avatar like jake.
She has an avatar...
*Na'vi
If she hadn't been shot she would be been permanently shifted to her avatar form
@@salmanillustrator5540True.
The way I see it, the roots creating the neural link between Grace and her avatar are like a door between the two. The ceremony is essentially Mo’at holding the door open so that Grace could pass through.
But remember: just because you hold the door for one person doesn’t mean that others won’t try to go through as well.
I can already tell that with Grace's death, Kiri was conceived. Kiri is basically the child of Pandora, like Jesus.
Maybe since Grace is with Aywa she is able to Influence certain things in Pandora. Perhaps thats why Kiri is the way she is. Grace is Kiri's connection to Aywa. Thats my theory
What's wrong with her daugther Kiri?
@@dynahvelvixin.8615 I didn't finish the second movie, but Kiri has some weird connection to the planet. Like a druid to the forest
@@dynahvelvixin.8615 she could get animals to listen to her and protect those whom she cared for
So many years later and it still makes me cry till this day 😭
Grace was a good person and would have been a great mother.
She is a mother sort of
This scene where the *_ENTIRE_* Omaticaya clan gathered together and prayed to Eywa - all in an effort to save Grace's life - is still one of the most powerful scenes in Avatar for me!! 🥲
Mo’at is such a cool character
I think it’s a good thing that grace didn’t make it to her avatar because I think it was probably thanks to grace’s memories of the destruction of earth that caused eywa to intervene in the fight for Pandora
I think it's safe to say that's exactly what happened.
Even Jake asked Eywa to do it:
"If Grace is with you, look into her memories. See the world we came from. There's no green there. They killed their mother. And they're gonna do the same here.
Wonder if the movie played out little different if Grace made it to her avatar
Her dream would come true, she would become Omatikaya.
She would stay with Moat during the war, later Jake and Neytiri would live happily together.
SPOILERS but I think in the sequel they make it so she did make it into the avatar body, she just never woke up and threw a baby out. There's some amazing theories about where the next movies will go with that
@@angelpunch0 I don't think Grace really made it, although she was sort of reborn as Kira, it's not really her... In the scene where Kiri connects to Eywa she sees Grace there, in her "afterlife", maybe Kiri is the "essence" od Grace but still a different person with different memories etc.
@@zerkig9058that’s the best way I’ve heard someone explain it
EYWA: Whats up?
Na'vi: Can you help her, she got shot?
EYWA: Hmmmm let me see.........yeah not my build.....one of my elder sisters lost creations......i dont have the proper adapters for this terran mammal.....she's has lost too much blood.....dont have her peoples correct nutrient solutions........best i can do is back up her id and memory then repatch her with a copy into a youngling. But i have to keep the original for safe keeping.
Na'vy: um what?
Eywa: deep sigh......your not there yet....keep forgetting.... Dont worry about it she will be like you just wait she will be reborn soon.
After watching the movie last night this scene really hits different.
From this scene when they were all calling out to Awah was calling out the entire planet’s heart. Using all that energy to save one person. But Grace was too weak to save herself and come back to her Avatar body. She ended up dying and became one with Awah.
And then she was reborn as kiri
Sorta...
More or less
Kinda…Eywa created Kiri from Grace, so she is Grace’s daughter
@Annika Bergeson Technically, she's the daughter of Grace's Avatar, but yes, you're right
I think Kiri is definitely Grace reincarnated. To be honest, if I were Grace i'd consider myself blessed if that is so.
"The Great Mother may choose to save all that She is, in this body."
Didn't Eywa do that exactly?
All the holy songs and ritual energy did exactly ask for Kiri to be concieved.
So sad that the woman leading the ritual didn't had much faith and also said the ritual didn't work. Like she couldn't percieve and trust how mysterious the Godenergy works?
But is Kiri Grace? Did Eywa know she would love to be child because the has a heart of a child with child-like curiousity?
Or is Kiri Eywa herself? Who does the woman really mean with 'She'
Or both? Grace was with Eywa and could have combined soul-energies with her before entering Kiri's body?
🤔
🤔
I think the last one is what happened.
And I’m willing to bet Kiris epilepsy is actually a “everybody in the Navi has it” thing, just not as bad as her.
As a sort of survival tool
Im sorry but avatar 1 was SO MUCH BETTER than avatar 2... This scene alone is proof
But there is the way to revive her in Avatar 3. Recombinant technology that revive Colonel Quaritch can be use to her avatar
I feel so guilty I laughed at this part… 1:59
You actually just killed me lol 😂😂
@@princessannika4642 rip I’ll play wap at ur funeral babes
me too 😂
And this is when Kiri was convive.
please make a pack of scenes of neytiri and jake together! 💙
the first avatar on top always
I've been watching this movie (film) last week, and this movie (film) is more amazing than Avatar 2 The way of water.
I wish there was a full music track for this
There is it’s Called Healing Ceremony by James Horner
Just Search "Avatar Healing Ceremony Music" by James Horner
@@rajimwakefield7972 I want to hear the prayer too tho
Grace 😭💔
The fact she said she will die to get samples 😢
0:21 you can see that the banshee's are even included probably the leonopteryx so i wonder if they do the same like there intelligent enough to connect to eywa themselves with there nural que's
Maybe its just me but this feels pretty sinister in a way it neveer used to and i cant explain it.
I wonder if this practice originally started with the navi doing it to themselves? Like maybe someone in your family was sick, and you sacrificed yourself, allowing their soul to transfer into your healthy body, while you stayed with Ewa. It had to come from somewhere right? What was the purpose of the ceremony before humans arrived.
Hope that they can do the same to Grace as they did with the colonel
I don't think they will cuz Kiri exists. Since the actor playing Kiri is the same actor as Grace, Grace cannot come back sadly
put the scene in ×2 at 1min20 🤣
1:05
1:22 2:15 2:45 0:16
1:30 2:17 2:58 0:30 0:56
1:34 2:24 1:12 3:13
1:42 2:32 1:17 3:17
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imagine see'ing the gods!
Am I the only one that dies of laughter cus the dance.? I'm SO SO SORRY THO!!!!
Wait, is that Kechak Dance?
After grace died why she pregnant before Eywa revived her Kiri mother die
Til this day I wonder what they are saying?😤😮💨 I know it’s something powerful
I think there a dictionary that can tell you that
I can't remember the exact lines but it goes somewhere along this:
Eywa we come before you for help (help her Eywa). We ask that you take this ones (Grace) soul (help her Eywa). And breathe her back to us (help her Eywa). Let her walk amongst us (help her Eywa). As one of the People (help her Eywa).
Again not an exact translation but you get the gist.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl THANK YOU so much 😊 reading it and listen to it at the same time is what I’ve been missing in this since 😭🥹
It’s funnier when u speed it up tho
I'm afraid she's not gonna make it 😔.
Sadly she didn't make it
@@M3nzD she's is dead.😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪
However, a part of Grace lives on in the sequels.
@@narendramartosudarmo6112 I think her avatar may come back to life in 3
@@narendramartosudarmo6112 yeah they all got spicy and got grace pregnant
Mycelium
but why is she dying? what happened?
(Spoiler Alert) She Was Shot By Miles Quaritch While They're Escaping From The Base
Bruh the movie came out like a decade ago just watch it
@@kleiYT"Spoiler alert? Bruh the movie came out like 10 years ago or more it's that person's own fault for not watching it
My Name is Jake and my Sister’s Name is Grace
She wasn’t his sister
@@Queen_Springsteen I know I’m saying that I have a sister named Grace
Oh no grace is dead
3:25 (Jake sobs over Grace’s dead body)
Jake: Grace, no!
(Neytiri reaches over to comfort him.)
Neytiri: Jake, I’m sorry. There is nothing we can do to save Grace now. She’s dead.
Jake: But it wasn’t supposed to be like this. I feel so alone.
Neytiri: You’re not alone.
(Neytiri hugs Jake)
I am soo annoyed that the the sequel to this masterpiece film is the way of water. Disgraceful :(. Number 2 literally suckssss
This comment is disgraceful
@@annieleonhardt2830 no its not.
i'm in tears , so much feelings in this 😭
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