Viking tool chest hinges inspired by the Mastermyr find
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2020
- Continuing on my look at the Mastermyr Viking age tool chest, I thought I would look at forging a set of Viking age tool chest hinges. Using old wrought iron with punched holes for cliched nails.
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I love these types of hardware. Watching you forge them is a real treat for me. I would like to see more of this, please.
There will certainly be more. I like doing hardware items
Wrought Iron is on my list of "why can't I find this" metals. Glad to see you working with it, look forward to finding some of it some day!
It is hard to find in any kind of quantity.
I’m always amazed by your videos, mostly due to the fact you never burn your moustache off
That book is one of my favorite viking documentations for inspiration. I have a Viking CZcams channel and do blacksmith work from the Viking age. I love watching your channel.especially when you make cool viking style items:)
I'll check it out!
@@BlackBearForge thankyou.
Loved it! Thanks for sharing your passion and helping to inspire me.
You are so welcome!
Really likable personality
Thank you so much
Really like watching you learning a lot made my first S hook yesterday.
Hi John this is the type of project i will enjoy doing .
And John i have had 2 blacksmith classes and i
reckon that your videos are as good if not better
than a hands on class. cheers.
Love how you explain mm sizes too. Thanks for that (from an Aussie).
What a wonderful way to start my Sunday morning. Thanks John.
My pleasure!
Man that anvil is so much quieter since the new mounting system!! Love these hardware projects! Thank you for another great video!!
Amazing work, congratulations!!
Great video John! Thanks! As always you're a pleasure to learn from!
When you said how to see the second hinge, I was reminded of the "DVD Rewinder" (remember the old VHS rewinders?). Someone actually made a device that would spin a DVD "backwards" to rewind it, and actually sold it to gullible people.
Thanks John I love thin projects 😀 don’t have to use so much strength that I barely have these days. Be well.
Fantastic video John! The Mastermyr video series is one of my favorites. I really enjoy watching people work wrought iron! I hope you do a video (or a few) of the chest build.
The Mastermyr collection has been on my list to do for quite awhile. I'd enjoy seeing your take on the wooden chest also. Thanks!
a tip i found useful when you fit them to a chest, get the hinges put on the lid first then when you line the other side up with the side of the chest to mark the holes, hold the hinge up a bit so its not resting on the bottom of the loop if that makes sense? often after you fit this style of hinge you can end up with the lid not closing properly and there isnt much that can be done to fix it at that stage.
Thanks for sharing
Love wrought iron. Do more videos with it
There will certainly be more as part of the Mastermyr series.
Nice hammerwork on those shoulders! No guillotine tool today!
Always a pleasure to watch you work.
Hi John
This makes me want to make the chest as a conversation piece, but there are a hundred other woodworking projects ahead of it so I will just look at your hinges with envy, grin... Great video John.
Hello John
I like your Video very much
I learned alot from your work
Thank you very much
All the best a good week
Yours Frank
Neat and simple!
I liked the out of sequence at 12:50.
Subtle.
I really enjoy your videos. Thank you
I love the rewind! I thought they came out well. Had my own struggles with wrought iron today
Thank you for keeping old methods and materials alive. Happy 4th to you John. I see you supplied your own fireworks. Been sounding like a war zone the last few weeks culminating with quite a battle last night. I live in the hills miles away I can still here it and I'm glad I live between two fire stations.
I used to really like fireworks. Then as a firefighter, not so much
While I don't have the Mastermyr boo, I do find this Viking age hardware really interesting, I would like to try my hand at it one of these days.
Great video John, the hinges look great. Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.
I have an old barn that has shutters on it and it has hinges like that only smaller made from horse shoes or mules shoes and a lock hasp all nails with square nails and bent over on the inside
Well done! Imma try this one for sure!
Have fun!
Always!
You looked awesome when you untwisted with two tongs
It turned out pretty good, this Roth iron doesn't seem to be easy to work with. Great video John.
Thanks 👍
I am enjoying the coal forge, good choice!
Nice job John. Personally I thing the varied cracking of the wrought iron adds to the antique look of the hinge. Great stuff! Thanks for the video. 👍
Thanks 👍
Great to see the return of the Mastermyr builds.
Why did you elect to draw out, wrap, and weld the first loop as opposed to, say, slit and drift the ring?
Probably because wrought iron really wants to split/delaminate when you drift it
As metalhammerish mentioned, wrought iron would probably split in that short distance.
Think I'll use steel off cuts when/if I make some of these. I can see the reasons why you would use wrought, but I'm not that inspired - yet. Thanks John.
I made the mästermyr handsaw once.😊
That sounds like an ambitious project
Really enjoyed this. Wrought iron seems to have a life and mind of its own quite often. Not as bad as herding cats but close it feels sometimes. Nice work Sir. Even though simple in theory oft smaller pieces present bigger challenge.
Lololol recently tried a nail challenge from " nothing" .yup i failed to get a head, however learned a lot. Delayed not defeated 😁
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Is the bolster with the round holes you used under the piece made of tool or mild steel?
Also curious to see more detail of the welding fix on the drawn out portion that broke, that seems a pretty small piece to rework without changing the dimensions.
Inspiring as always. Thank you! - and happy belated Independence Day!
Just mild steel. That way it doesn't chip the edge of a punch if your alignment is off
Black Bear Forge that makes sense. Nice, I have stock like that laying all over the jobsite from setting forms. Already has some of the holes in it 😉
Thank you for taking time out of your day to respond. It’s not taken for granted.
Hey John I was trying to forge weld three pieces of steel today and it just wouldn't weld I grinded off the rust and scale and fluxed it good but it didn't tack any pointers to what I did wrong also I had it up to a yellow heat very awesome video
Its nearly impossible to diagnose forge welding problem without being there. Dirty fire, to heavy of hammer, oxidizing fire causing scale, joint not shaped to move the flux out during the weld. It's hard to say
these videos make me want to go play the elder scrolls games
Love the project. With wrought iron, would brushing the Forge weld area before the flux have made it easier? Keep up the good material- can't wait to see the chest completed.
Only if there is serious scale build up. The flux helps carry the scale out of the weld area as well as preventing new scale from forming.
Veins to the nails!
Omg I'm upto the hinges in my box yay
May I suggest you make a short simple video while you build the chest? Of course not by any means as detailed of a video as your forging ones.
I know this is a blacksmithing channel and not a wooddworking one, but since it's related to the hinges and you did a bit of woodworking on the channel already this might be suitable and I personally would love to see that.
I hope to do that and will probably post it on the other channel that isn't dedicated to a specific topic.
Very nice John! What’d you make that little square punch out of? - If you don’t mind sharing. I’m having a hard time keeping mine in working condition for longer than a few holes, even with meticulous cooling.
This one is S-7 and it isn't holding up great, but its still usable.
John, where do _you_ get your wrought iron? Where do you get _real_ highly-refined wrought iron for ornamental work -- I don't know that I trust eBay purchases of wrought iron, unless you or someone else here can highly recommend particular sellers of wrought iron? I'd love to learn to use the 'real deal"! Does using the steel-/iron-filing-based flux affect the wrought iron in any way that you can tell? And, of course, I'm looking forward to your next video!
Also, will you make a video on building the tool chest, perhaps for your second channel? I'd like to see that!
I just ordered the book too! ;)
I have picked up bits and pieces here and there over the years. Most hasn't been all that good to work with
Often it's the conceptually simple projects that can be difficult; especially when a learning curve must be earned. The difficulty of creating something that fights back is seldom known to the non creative types. Now with YT they'll know. What; if any type/steel etc., small punch could have been a better choice to punch such small holes and still have a punch left after the task is complete. Have you any knowledge (museum pieces) on weather the viking made wrought iron "whatever items" was perfected to a point of no flaws or did the vikings put necessity, speed, and minimum function over a few flaws?
Small punches are always going to get hot and deform easily. The one in the video is S7 and will still be usable but could stand to be re hardened. Making a shorter stubby tip would help as well. The few museum pieces I have seen ranged from extremely fine craftsmanship to quick and crude but functional.
How does someone create high quality wrought iron for thin pieces? Would starting at bloom and working/folding down many times make higher quality?
Check out Blacksmith Joey van der steeg, he makes all kinds of blooms
Yes. After initially refining the bloom, it is folded, cut and stacked over and over the make the grain finer.
Repeated folding and forge welding is the way to refine wrought iron and for finer work it might be worth the effort.
When will you be doing a video showing your cast iron pan apple pie recipe? I just found your channel, great videos! BTW, I'm still pist at you for cleaning my helmet, haha.
It has been many years since i have fed enough people to make a pie that big. Sorry I don't recognize the user name.
@@BlackBearForge Hint: Melted helmet, Princess Lea.
Are the welded rings (as opposed to having one or both be just bent and not connected) strictly necessary for these hinges? Would that be different in mild steel as opposed to wrought iron because it's a bit harder to bend?
Some of us are a bit iffier on forge welding than you, and it could also make assembly more convenient; though I guess you could punch one and rivet one if you really wanted to avoid welding, in mild steel.
I find this style of hinge really interesting for being able to rotate in more than one plane, yet being really easy to make. Surely there's some unique uses for that, even if you only can use one.
In wrought iron I think welding is the way to go. In mild steel it wouldn't be as important.
Would there have been a problem if instead of heating the two hinge pieces up prior to the second forge weld that only the the open "hook" was heated, the closed ring placed over the open hook and then forge welded? I would envision the finished first piece with the ring being able to hang over the side of the anvil while doing that second forge weld; or would the weight pull the piece to be forge welded open?
The relatively light area needing to be welded would most likely cool bellow welding heat while linking the two
It would be interesting to split the end with a hotcut and scroll them out.
When punch gets hot, can you cool the top of the punch too? Or not needed
It never gets that hot, ,but you can cool the whole thing. Just don't quench if its up to a red heat, let it air cool if it gets that hot
tkjazzer I think he was talking about the radiant heat on his hand holding the punch
Went to the scrap yard looking for a 3'×3'×1/4" plate for my vise/grinder stand, found a couple pieces I could weld together to make it big enough, but they are not exactly flat, they used to be at one time, but I think whatever they were originally was ran into and these cut out for repair patch, big bends across each, problem is how to straighten them, tried running one over with a forklift, very little effect, very springy, I don't have a rosebud, or even an oxy/acetylene torch, and no way to get something that heavy and red hot out of the forge. Any suggestions?
I have never had good luck straightening plate
@@BlackBearForge , I'm not expecting perfectly flat, just close.
A more simple hinge and does still serve it propose also would be more less to fell if left neglected or not lubed as often.
Maybe find a new job for it.
Thanks John Switzer teaching another lessen.
Is there a advantage to welding the first loop over just drifting a large hole in the end?
In wrought iron, yes. Because of the grain structure of the wrought iron punching and drifting would leave a weak area at the end of the loop.
What is the major differences between wrought iron, cast iron, and modern soft steel? As far as carbon content, strengths, weaknesses, hardness and toughness, etc.?
Wrought iron is very low carbon and has a grain structure similar to working with wood. Cast iron is higher carbon, very brittle and not suitable for forging. Mild steel is low carbon but very tough and doesn't have the grain issues wrought iron does.
What size motor needed for a 2" × 72" belt sander? Wanting to make my own.
i made 2 of them chests one look like i should with hinges that semi raos arub the chest that look like sea serpent ane and the other on i backpack
I love your work and your videos are awesome but it seems since the start of the pandemic the videos have got to all be a half hour long. I was never lucky enough to be laid off sitting the pandemic and a half hour video is just to long for me to for in my day. Really miss The 15 minute videos. I hope to finish this video but can't say it will happen. Been missing allot of the endings. But you do what makes you you because that's why I started watching. Oh yeah what about the ribbon burner
I do like shorter ones myself. But more people ask for longer videos plus I'm running out of good short video ideas.
Are there different grades of punches? Don't own them yet. Did you do a tool info video on punches previously?
I have talked about punches and have shown the making of various punches. I make most of my punches and the material choice is somewhat dependent on the final use with S7 being my most used steel for punches and chisels.
Excuse me Black Bear, Is it possible to make a hammer without a hammer?
I'm trying to educate myself here, so I'll ask what may be a question with an obvious answer. I know one side would need to be welded, but would it be better/faster to punch and drift the first one, then forge weld the second one through that? I understand the want to make it historically accurate, but for a more modern take, I feel like the punch+drift method would be faster if you were doing multiples.
Its a good question. Wrought iron has a grain like wood, punching and drifting would most likely split out the end. In mild steel punching and drifting should work fine.
I thought that might be the case. I appreciate the time taken to answer me. Sharing knowledge like that always helps.
I was just watching the hammers video and you mentioned dressing the hammers is there a video on dressing the hammer ? Or any proper steps to dress a hammer ?
Awesome content 👍 even though I don't have so much time for 30 -45 minute videos I send then to messanger to watch later thanks for the suggestion box!
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Thank You I'll watch it later 😁
And one more question do you dress a new hammer or let it wear to dress it ? Or any new tools ?
Finally a Clip that is not yet another hook.
If you think I mostly do hooks you have missed the vast majority of my videos.
Are anchors more refined wrought?
I have no idea,
24:33 lol
If you were making a set of those hinges to sell how much would you charge
Out of wrought iron probably around $150
The comments are turned off on your new forge tour video
Yes, since it was made specifically for an under 18 age group comments aren't allowed. I had forgotten that was the case
@@BlackBearForge darn. Silly CZcams. Would be nice to be able to ask questions etc on the video comments like you said! Oh well. I understand!
Quartz sand? Or borax in the bottle in this video
Iron Mountain forge welding flux
I'm still lost on the lock but
Thats going to involve a big learning curve.
Just starting can you make a offset peen hammer head would like to watch it enjoy your channel very informative
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