Absolutely fantastic synergy you two. State, you really have stepped into some giant shoes and while it's not the same, it's still definitely fantastic. Thank you!
I prefer State's style, he adds in a lot more info about the game than Artosis did - with Tastosis things were more chaotic and funny, probably due to having worked together for so long, but Stateless brings more in-depth knowledge and a differently funny cast.
State getting tested with the disconnects - started to lose it a bit with the Batman - Tasteless refusing to venture down Inspector Gadget Lane, but still managed to get a few nice banters back and forth and right back into the game like a pro.
Dark is the chad vs. virgin meme brought to life. A bunch of frail, skinny Terran nerds and Dark swaggers in with his classy mustache taking a break from the gym to make it to the final 4 of a GSL.
*13 hour day at work. Lives 45 minutes from work. Another long work day tomorrow. 9PM, should be getting into bed for 8 hours of sleep tomorrow. Sees new GSL vid.* NOT TODAY, SLEEP!
because he played like shit, really puts into perspective the balance of the game when the best the race has to offer plays that bad. It clearly isn't balance that made hero lose
. TIMESTAMPS TIMESTAMPS TIMESTAMPS . 5:40 Dark v TY game 1 ROYAL BLOOD 13:43 Dark v TY game 2 NEOHUMANITY 31:45 independence day ad 35:29 Cure v her0 game 1 GRESVAN 48:15 Cure v her0 game 2 DRAGON SCALES 1:04:20 hoes gon' be hoes 1:10:33 Winners Match game 1 GRESVAN 1:21:06 Winners Match game 2 ROYAL BLOOD 1:28:00 bane drop 1:37:25 doom drop 1:41:07 Winners Match game 3 NEOHUMANITY 1:46:40 fourth cc 1:59:37 interview 2:08:53 Elimination Match game 1 ALTITUDE 2:14:38 Protoss APM 2:16:29 virgin stormdrop v chad mines 2:19:38 her0 drop 2:30:38 rated R 2:35:01 Elimination Match game 2 GRESVAN 3:06:22 Final Match game 1 GRESVAN 3:17:15 dark burrowed 3:21:47 Final Match game 2 ROYAL BLOOD 3:38:15 interview
Depends on the hands that play them, for example Zerg is stronger than Protoss, when controlled by Serral, so which one is the stronger race? Depends on who specifically plays them.
Honestly, herO looked terrible this season. In these games he was forgetting units, wasting a lot, and took some incredibly bad engagements. It felt like his attention was unable to keep up for whatever reason. You can see this in a mirror match up too, when he played vs Nightmare (P) last group he was in. He got ahead, threw away tons of units and positions and BARELY won by the skin of his teeth. I like herO and enjoy his play but this season was really shake and the better players won.
@@bucherregaldomi9084emind me how many GSLs toss have won? Then tell me how many Terrans and zerg have won. These are professionals. An underpowered race simply will not attract many of them because they are here to win.
Cure's infantry push, Marines, Marauders, Hellbats and even some leftover Reapers, worked even better than the supply numbers would suggest😵💫. And every human doing his part💪.
i know it scales depending on skill level, a dia league terran wont beat a gm toss, but tvp is broken and terran in general is clearly op. not sure how any active sc2 players/ watchers can feel differently. stats dont lie, terran is op
@@tigera6 online cups don't mean much. Not much as at stake, players may not be bringing their best builds. Win all the online cups you want; if you can't win when it matters then you aren't the better player. Cure is probably the best TvP in the world right now, but what really surprised me was how amazing his TvZ looked vs Dark. Based on that series, I doubt Dark will be winning this season. Gumiho is looking amazing in TvZ (He looked really good vs Solar this tourney, plus he annihilated Solar in ESL Summer AND took 2 games off Serral in the finals), and even if Dark beats Gumiho then he hast to rematch Cure (yikes) OR play Maru (double yikes)
@@logginskenny8073 have you seen hero's play this tournament. Bro is playing like garbage, and that's still the best protoss has to offer. Meanwhile, Byun and Gumiho both are approaching's Cure/Maru level strength. Terran's are only dominating in Korea right now. Everywhere else is pretty even. It's not the race, it's the players.
@@ghosthamster6521Hero had a bad day. We’ve seen it from almost everyone at one point. Yes Terran players are best in Korea and the player usually is more important than the race. But the races are not even everywhere else. Zerg and Terran have dominated for half a decade. You can’t tell me every pro protoss is just bad. In fact if you take Reynor Dark and Serral away we would see nothing but Terrans ever win.
@@tigera6 I've over time learned to stop hoping on Maru, since every time I do he seems to choke against someone that's doing extremely well, like vs Gumi, Time and herO.
@@Necroneer he also just beat Cure last GSL Final. While I do agree that Maru has done his share of choking through the years (3 straight lost in GSL final before getting G5L, world title to Oliveira), I think Maru has zero pressure to win this GSL and hope that should allow him to play with better performance.
@@Necroneer Right, which is why he's won 6 GSL's... /s Maru is the GSL GOAT, no argument. He is the faviourite in every match he plays in, he absolutely curb stomped everyone last season. Yeah, he lost to Gumiho this season, but it would still be an upset if he doesn't win it again (although I don't think his chances are quite as good as last season)
@@space_orphan I'm not undermining his achievements or anything in fact I still think he's the best Terran (I used to be such a Maru fanboy), I just have this curse where when I root for him he just drops the ball, so I've stopped and have over all been happy with his games, win or lose.
Ghosts are a good answer, but they are the only answer. Terran has nothing else, so you can't touch them without a huge rework. It's also not stale by any means. Byun and Eric have both made crazy cool build orders that change the matchup entirely. Zergs can now do a quicker pool without trolling(very good for aggression), and this double rax reaper slows the zerg down enough to drag out the midgame for so much longer, really putting the terran in a position to gain a lot of tempo(similar to what we saw clem and byun do before Maru showed everyone how to beat zergs in the late game). There are more options for both sides now.
I cant even believe how bad Hero played. I wanted Dark to win but I'm actually pissed off with Hero's performance. This is the first time I've thought someone was intentionally throwing, it was so insanely bad to the point that he didn't belong in the tournament.
I mean to be honest these people are on constant extreme doses of adhd medication to be able to play at a superhuman level, mess one thing up in your diet, mindstate, sleep, dosage, ... and you won't be at that level.
is tasteless doing the translate of the interviews ? i don't really recall him doing it in previous seasons . Is it new ? his korean should have improved a lot then
we need a new meta, game 3 of dark vs cure is a demonstration of Terran playing single player and winning vs Zerg. its the exact same thing that the swarmhost did
@@ddenozor"Terrans are the best" lmaoooo, terran has the easiest and most powerful tools, and theres a reason, along w terran favor maps, terrans win everything
its just another group stage, not elimination bracket so Bo3 kinda make sense. But yeah, having Bo5 for the Winner, Lover and Elimination match would be pretty cool.
Sad state of affairs for Starcraft. The time to fix the glaring issues was years ago. The increased worker start ruined the early game for protoss and now they are simply too predictable to play against at a high level. A proxy tech building is the best cheese a Protoss can pull off? That's hugely risky, whereas zerg and terran have many openings and fallbacks when they fail. Hero is clearly uninspired, and I don't blame him.
i just going to disagree what you said :) this patch it is a Terren patch and Terren maps thats all. Noting to deal with the Increased worker i do not think you undestand sc2 1v1 that much as you think you are and i won't reply here anymore. after all this is internet people can say what ever they want even tho it is not True
@@Ranger0730 exactly. cure is a very good tvp player but I do not think it is a coincidence that every toss's worst MU is against terran. Eventho herO really threw today, when he won online vs dark and byun he looked way better. But yeah, last GSL all terran RO4. It is a shame.
@@Ranger0730 Nothing you said refutes my point. Proxy gateway and 4 gate were both nullified when they doubled the starting worker count. These are no longer viable openings. Not to mention probe harass and scouting opportunities were limited. Protoss used to be able to send an initial probe in to the opponents base and get in unscouted before they built their first depot at the ramp. Just one example. These threats being removed hurt the early game.
@@Ranger0730 Even the casters are having trouble hiding how bad this is for the game. I have been a diehard sc2 and sc1 fan, having watched pro games religiously since 2008, and I don't even keep up with GSL anymore. It's bad
@@Ranger0730 nothing to do w this season or this "patch", terran is and always has been overpowered. amazing how fast, high dps tier one range units that never scale poorly isnt a good design decision...
Unfortunate turn of events. I think I'll skip the rest of this tournament. I can't bring myself to watch any more TvZs. Good luck to whoever takes this and let's hope the balance of future GSLs normalizes again.
"underperforming" lmaooo, no they are doing as expected w the balance of terran and zergs, esp easy race terran. protoss is figured out and both other races have str8 forward tools to deal w anything toss does. This is how sc2 is gonna look until it dies bc no one cares terran is clearly overpowered
@@logginskenny8073 terran is so much harder than protoss the terran pros all get wrist issues from having to micro so hard. Don't pretend like Cure, Maru, or Gumiho didn't deserve a single one of their wins.
I love Tasteless to death, but damn, can you really tell he doesn't have a clue about sc2 beyond what he casts. I get that he's the hype caster, not the analyst, but still, I feel like with a very little effort (read preparation), he could do so much better. It feels like he takes the fact that we're watching for granted and that he got lazy (that's been my sense for the last ~3-4 years already). In a previous cast he has proclaimed that SoS has really retired at his peak, and I just literally couldn't believe my ears, wondering if he's drunk or high. This was the most extreme example, but it definitely feels that his internal rankings are stuck in 2018. Too long were we used to Artosis's level of analysis he just kept on bringing all those years. State is doing really well but of course has ways to go and Tasteless is just unable to carry. You can see Tastelesses great progress as a caster and host personality and his regress as a SC2 caster specifically.
Agree with you here. I mean how hard is it for Tasteless to just spend a few mins/hours to catch up on the meta and at least be knowledgeable with the game? It's his job anyway. And he's always bringing up SC1 which is so frustrating.
Serral's been experimenting with a pure ling + infestor build -- and into ultras later iirc -- vs terran the past month or two, so it seems to be a general movement of experimentation that the other races will probably adjust to.
terran imba, nerf ghost EMP buff protoss, maybe change storm somehow (+ damage on armored units?)? extend range on feedback? make feedback AOE? it should be something to do with HT I think. storm would affect Z too much.
@@chitahitsu4743 whatever I’m just saying there should a be cap to how much damage it’s able to do to the shield, I also feel like archons should be immune to emp bec they basically dissapear after they get hit w it
@@jameslog3431 actually they should deal NO damage on shields. That spell is not supposed to be an AoE nuke, it's an anti-caster spell. But that's only one of the insane things Terran have, and they still can't take the big international ones. Really, they should be ashamed with their performance outside of Korea with such a broken race.
Watching the last game of the winners match, I'm hoping some changes come to TvZ because I think Terrans can play like that a lot more and not be too easily punished. I think Zergs would almost be forced into trying to blind counter greedier builds since Terran can deny scouting fairly easily unless Zerg makes a much heavier commitment to scout. I much prefer seeing larger pushes, counter attacks, and more interaction generally from both sides.
I think its a map specific thing, Neo Humanity has the watch tower on both sides, and the rock with slow zone in the middle making it near impossible for Zerg to win in early game, Terran can just sit home and wait until they have all the lategame tech before trying to fight. Not sure why Dark let this one through because its almost an instant veto by most of the Zerg.
The terran players are just better. You can't complain about balance when hero move commands his whole army into ty and still wins. Toss deserved to lose every single game they lost. Except nightmare, who deserved to beat hero, who is in fact a protoss. maybe you should complain about protoss because pvp was the only matchup where the player who played better lost.
Honestly, the Terran players are just playing better and are probably still enjoying the game. When Hero played, it felt like he lost his confidence. It's sad to see because he has the potential to be one of the best.
Protoss usually has lesser unit counts, at pro level when they make 1 tiny mistake and the army count will be like 50 against 100, almost guarantee no return from there. But if other races make a mistake by the time Protoss arrives for counter their army count equals back lol. And their units r so bulky and slow, any attacks from 2 directions its as good as dead. Also they have so many units that can shoot down but not up or vice versa. I would like if they can nerf colossus range n dmg but can shoot air or disruptor can cancel the attack or even something more drastic.
@@maxsta4088 Look at hero's play and really consider, if that's the best pro that plays protoss, how bad is everyone else who picks the race. This guy move commands units across the map into an opponents army practically giving them away for free and still wins. Face it. These protoss players all deserved to lose.
I think it’s kinda hard to judge hero for this. P is so underpowered at this stage and you kinda have to do something out of the bag because standard play ends in a loss anyways
funny how tasteless often rushes to say " this guy is on another level" in this case talking about dark against Ty, calm ur tits tasteless he is NOT. this is fucking Ty lol, did you watch him play round of 16? ya dark played great with agression as he often does, but he also got bo advantage, and thats part of sc2 too. not because he won this series = he is on another level
No, because fair competition matters and if the best protoss player in the world throws units away for free by move commanding them into the enemy literally every game, they deserve to lose.
Forcing the Community to go to another Plattform, will destroy it. Its like commanding the viewership to go away... Im not longer watching live, im watching the vods here and im pretty sure the screen Limit is hurting more youtube users and GSL Fans...
dark didn't even look that good. Hero was just awful TY is in a rust bucket, I'm surprised he got this far this quickly. I feel like he will be back up to shape in no time
@@TheVanillatech I'm T and my favorite pros are Maru and Gumiho. Anyone with eyes and a brain can see T has an advantage in the current patch/meta/maps
@@apeist I'm a strong confident black woman and even I can see that my ancestors probably deserved to be kidnapped from Africa and taken to work in the fields of the new world...
@@apeist Maru still manage to win a GSL, and could win another one next week. Its herO who has not done well in big tournament, but he manage to win a couple of weekly and smaller tournament.
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19k so far thks everyone who support gsl
Absolutely fantastic synergy you two. State, you really have stepped into some giant shoes and while it's not the same, it's still definitely fantastic. Thank you!
I agree
I also agree
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I prefer State's style, he adds in a lot more info about the game than Artosis did - with Tastosis things were more chaotic and funny, probably due to having worked together for so long, but Stateless brings more in-depth knowledge and a differently funny cast.
State getting tested with the disconnects - started to lose it a bit with the Batman - Tasteless refusing to venture down Inspector Gadget Lane, but still managed to get a few nice banters back and forth and right back into the game like a pro.
Dark is the chad vs. virgin meme brought to life. A bunch of frail, skinny Terran nerds and Dark swaggers in with his classy mustache taking a break from the gym to make it to the final 4 of a GSL.
Watch out Dark your alpha gymbro
bod is no match for cure’s sigma sleeper build
The guy can’t even gg in a major tournament, he is so far up his own ass.
Isn’t dark more of a snackbro?
Love the g1 of Cure vs Dark. Great army composition and spread/control. Impressive g3 too.
cure the spread goat, that was amazing
네 번째 이야기 하고 있다 ㄷㅌ 수 @@stardawggunrocks5152ㄷㅌ 수 ㄷㅌ 수 있는 것입니다
*13 hour day at work. Lives 45 minutes from work. Another long work day tomorrow. 9PM, should be getting into bed for 8 hours of sleep tomorrow. Sees new GSL vid.* NOT TODAY, SLEEP!
legends watch in 360p
I watch in 360 for the same reason I stop playing sc2 :p . my internet sux
Legends just listen and see the game in their mind… I mean I can’t. Too busy squinting in 360p…
Sound to the max let's make it saturate
and there we get that og experience
I watch this in 360p on a CRT television.
I watch on 14.4K….modem 😂
Love the full VODs thank you!!
Man best toss player doesnt even have a chance
its called poor balancing and terran favored maps, revert old stim timing, fuck terrans
because he played like shit, really puts into perspective the balance of the game when the best the race has to offer plays that bad. It clearly isn't balance that made hero lose
. TIMESTAMPS
TIMESTAMPS
TIMESTAMPS
. 5:40 Dark v TY game 1 ROYAL BLOOD
13:43 Dark v TY game 2 NEOHUMANITY
31:45 independence day ad
35:29 Cure v her0 game 1 GRESVAN
48:15 Cure v her0 game 2 DRAGON SCALES
1:04:20 hoes gon' be hoes
1:10:33 Winners Match game 1 GRESVAN
1:21:06 Winners Match game 2 ROYAL BLOOD
1:28:00 bane drop
1:37:25 doom drop
1:41:07 Winners Match game 3 NEOHUMANITY
1:46:40 fourth cc
1:59:37 interview
2:08:53 Elimination Match game 1 ALTITUDE
2:14:38 Protoss APM
2:16:29 virgin stormdrop v chad mines
2:19:38 her0 drop
2:30:38 rated R
2:35:01 Elimination Match game 2 GRESVAN
3:06:22 Final Match game 1 GRESVAN
3:17:15 dark burrowed
3:21:47 Final Match game 2 ROYAL BLOOD
3:38:15 interview
thanks! add a spoiler alert maybe? :p
@@valkyrieqp hoes gon'' be hoes def needs a spoiler alert
Thank you
Thanks GSL!!
"Disruptors, if you don't tell them to attack, are just moving paperweights." LOL'd, love it!
lol when did he say that?
2:54:44 Tasteless just happened to say it exactly as I read your comment. Haha!
@@ZC.Andrew ledge
Protoss so strong. Such strong race
Depends on the hands that play them, for example Zerg is stronger than Protoss, when controlled by Serral, so which one is the stronger race? Depends on who specifically plays them.
@@bucherregaldomi9084 yes. it just so happened that none of the best players picked Protoss =>
Honestly, herO looked terrible this season. In these games he was forgetting units, wasting a lot, and took some incredibly bad engagements. It felt like his attention was unable to keep up for whatever reason. You can see this in a mirror match up too, when he played vs Nightmare (P) last group he was in. He got ahead, threw away tons of units and positions and BARELY won by the skin of his teeth. I like herO and enjoy his play but this season was really shake and the better players won.
@@bucherregaldomi9084emind me how many GSLs toss have won? Then tell me how many Terrans and zerg have won.
These are professionals. An underpowered race simply will not attract many of them because they are here to win.
@@myq723yeah i wonder why few players would intentionally pick a weaker race
Thanks for the upload!
State: "TY is still in _the Dark_" - truer words than he thought when he spoke them...
Dark looks like an ancient samurai
WTF i was thinking exactly this xD
Cure-Dark=like a Final,so far!
why the hell are cyclones so strong
Have you seen any Terran winning tournaments with Cyclones exclusively?
Cure's infantry push, Marines, Marauders, Hellbats and even some leftover Reapers, worked even better than the supply numbers would suggest😵💫. And every human doing his part💪.
Dark lost his 1st match just not to play with Maru ;)
well it is ok the goal of dark for this GSL is to prevent 4 terrans for top 4
"TY is still in the DARK" 😅
awesome games,
Darks mustache tho
Cure is so really strong in TvP. Even Hero cant handle his power
herO played like crap today, he was beating Cure and Byun in online cup recently.
i know it scales depending on skill level, a dia league terran wont beat a gm toss, but tvp is broken and terran in general is clearly op. not sure how any active sc2 players/ watchers can feel differently. stats dont lie, terran is op
@@tigera6 online cups don't mean much. Not much as at stake, players may not be bringing their best builds. Win all the online cups you want; if you can't win when it matters then you aren't the better player. Cure is probably the best TvP in the world right now, but what really surprised me was how amazing his TvZ looked vs Dark. Based on that series, I doubt Dark will be winning this season. Gumiho is looking amazing in TvZ (He looked really good vs Solar this tourney, plus he annihilated Solar in ESL Summer AND took 2 games off Serral in the finals), and even if Dark beats Gumiho then he hast to rematch Cure (yikes) OR play Maru (double yikes)
@@logginskenny8073 have you seen hero's play this tournament. Bro is playing like garbage, and that's still the best protoss has to offer. Meanwhile, Byun and Gumiho both are approaching's Cure/Maru level strength. Terran's are only dominating in Korea right now. Everywhere else is pretty even. It's not the race, it's the players.
@@ghosthamster6521Hero had a bad day. We’ve seen it from almost everyone at one point. Yes Terran players are best in Korea and the player usually is more important than the race. But the races are not even everywhere else. Zerg and Terran have dominated for half a decade. You can’t tell me every pro protoss is just bad. In fact if you take Reynor Dark and Serral away we would see nothing but Terrans ever win.
TY TY TY THIS IS GOLD!
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What song is this?
I hope Cure keeps up this streak of his, he's surely gonna win if he continues like this.
Well, hes facing Maru in the semifinal, so he would need to work hard for it.
@@tigera6 I've over time learned to stop hoping on Maru, since every time I do he seems to choke against someone that's doing extremely well, like vs Gumi, Time and herO.
@@Necroneer he also just beat Cure last GSL Final. While I do agree that Maru has done his share of choking through the years (3 straight lost in GSL final before getting G5L, world title to Oliveira), I think Maru has zero pressure to win this GSL and hope that should allow him to play with better performance.
@@Necroneer Right, which is why he's won 6 GSL's... /s
Maru is the GSL GOAT, no argument. He is the faviourite in every match he plays in, he absolutely curb stomped everyone last season. Yeah, he lost to Gumiho this season, but it would still be an upset if he doesn't win it again (although I don't think his chances are quite as good as last season)
@@space_orphan I'm not undermining his achievements or anything in fact I still think he's the best Terran (I used to be such a Maru fanboy), I just have this curse where when I root for him he just drops the ball, so I've stopped and have over all been happy with his games, win or lose.
I love seeing ultras
1:03:00 min, какая музыка играет не подскажите?
I miss Gyuri interviews
i swear to god i was listening to chill lofi and watching chill gameplay videos and came here from auto-play and became an addict mistakenly
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1:11:55 Dark is MY Daddy! ❤️
As a Terran player T vs Z is getting quite stale. I think ghost need to be a little more expensive or raise the supply cost to 3.
Then Infestor Viper need to be 3 supply as well, and cost more?
terran in general needs reworked, amazing how fast, high dps tier one range units that never scale poorly isnt a good balance idea
Ghosts are a good answer, but they are the only answer. Terran has nothing else, so you can't touch them without a huge rework. It's also not stale by any means. Byun and Eric have both made crazy cool build orders that change the matchup entirely. Zergs can now do a quicker pool without trolling(very good for aggression), and this double rax reaper slows the zerg down enough to drag out the midgame for so much longer, really putting the terran in a position to gain a lot of tempo(similar to what we saw clem and byun do before Maru showed everyone how to beat zergs in the late game). There are more options for both sides now.
why no option to download?
I cant even believe how bad Hero played. I wanted Dark to win but I'm actually pissed off with Hero's performance. This is the first time I've thought someone was intentionally throwing, it was so insanely bad to the point that he didn't belong in the tournament.
One mistske with Protoss as Grandmaster and you lose the game. Her0 had a few new ideas, but nothing worked
@@MegglAlder it wasnt just ONE mistake, but was a series of bad moves and decision that cost him both the losses.
I mean to be honest these people are on constant extreme doses of adhd medication to be able to play at a superhuman level, mess one thing up in your diet, mindstate, sleep, dosage, ... and you won't be at that level.
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Me when Dark doesn't clear the rocks on neohumanity for 17 minutes against Terran? Man was sleeping at the wheel
is tasteless doing the translate of the interviews ? i don't really recall him doing it in previous seasons . Is it new ? his korean should have improved a lot then
unexpected result who would've thought
im glad ill never be able to be good enough to go pro bc if i lost living money to balance id feel so miserable
delusional ppl asking for toss to play perfect like perfection is ever achievable in sc
@@zzzevey toss has to play 100% perfect to have a shot to beat a terran
hero literally walked stalkers into the enemy giving them away for free in EVERY SINGLE MATCH of the gsl
we need a new meta, game 3 of dark vs cure is a demonstration of Terran playing single player and winning vs Zerg. its the exact same thing that the swarmhost did
A real shame on that disconnect in game 1 of the losers match. That really killed the excitement of what was an otherwise amazing game.
2:33:42 ROFL! I just laughed so hard and so differently from the way I usually laugh that it made me confused.
1:35:50 I wonder how Artosis will make joke on these tanks :D :D :D
dark thinking what game to switch to during the match :(
What's with the mirror motif at the beginning? Is it because they knew it was gonna be a bunch of TvT's when they made the graphics? 😆
State is very knowledgeable
Dark is looking good but he's gonna have to be really good to survive the round of Terran terror.
It's gonna be really hard. These maps favor Terran and these Terrans are the best.
@@ddenozor"Terrans are the best" lmaoooo, terran has the easiest and most powerful tools, and theres a reason, along w terran favor maps, terrans win everything
@@logginskenny8073 Yeah, yeah terran have definitly the easiest tools thats why we have 3 terrans and 20 protosses at european pro scene
@@logginskenny8073 jesus christ is this a real reply or have the AI's started spamming bot-talk on SC2 youtubes already?
@@sigon8605maps matter a lot.
so fast, thanks
Why is the round of 8 b03 and not b05 thats ridiculous
its just another group stage, not elimination bracket so Bo3 kinda make sense. But yeah, having Bo5 for the Winner, Lover and Elimination match would be pretty cool.
anyone else feel Dark's Hatred in that second game vs cure? Cure kicked his butt so bad the first game I think Dark just went all out that second game
Sad state of affairs for Starcraft. The time to fix the glaring issues was years ago. The increased worker start ruined the early game for protoss and now they are simply too predictable to play against at a high level. A proxy tech building is the best cheese a Protoss can pull off? That's hugely risky, whereas zerg and terran have many openings and fallbacks when they fail. Hero is clearly uninspired, and I don't blame him.
i just going to disagree what you said :) this patch it is a Terren patch and Terren maps thats all. Noting to deal with the Increased worker i do not think you undestand sc2 1v1 that much as you think you are and i won't reply here anymore. after all this is internet people can say what ever they want even tho it is not True
@@Ranger0730 exactly. cure is a very good tvp player but I do not think it is a coincidence that every toss's worst MU is against terran. Eventho herO really threw today, when he won online vs dark and byun he looked way better. But yeah, last GSL all terran RO4. It is a shame.
@@Ranger0730 Nothing you said refutes my point. Proxy gateway and 4 gate were both nullified when they doubled the starting worker count. These are no longer viable openings. Not to mention probe harass and scouting opportunities were limited.
Protoss used to be able to send an initial probe in to the opponents base and get in unscouted before they built their first depot at the ramp. Just one example. These threats being removed hurt the early game.
@@Ranger0730 Even the casters are having trouble hiding how bad this is for the game. I have been a diehard sc2 and sc1 fan, having watched pro games religiously since 2008, and I don't even keep up with GSL anymore. It's bad
@@Ranger0730 nothing to do w this season or this "patch", terran is and always has been overpowered. amazing how fast, high dps tier one range units that never scale poorly isnt a good design decision...
Unfortunate turn of events. I think I'll skip the rest of this tournament. I can't bring myself to watch any more TvZs.
Good luck to whoever takes this and let's hope the balance of future GSLs normalizes again.
This is the balance blizzard wants. P always was the weakest race
Games are great, GSL is amazing, but can the spectator STOP leaving the cam zoomed in? Just stay zoomed out so that we can actually see everything.
holy shit the batman bit was hillarious
Protoss is massively underperforming as a race. It’s so sad
"underperforming" lmaooo, no they are doing as expected w the balance of terran and zergs, esp easy race terran. protoss is figured out and both other races have str8 forward tools to deal w anything toss does. This is how sc2 is gonna look until it dies bc no one cares terran is clearly overpowered
@@logginskenny8073 right, you said it better than I do. If protoss is ahead? They means it’s even with Terran and Zerg.
@@logginskenny8073 terran is so much harder than protoss the terran pros all get wrist issues from having to micro so hard. Don't pretend like Cure, Maru, or Gumiho didn't deserve a single one of their wins.
@@ghosthamster6521no they spam alot. Lots of T, A click spam. Thats not skill its just spam. Protoss is considerably more difficult to actually use.
Does tasteless actually speak korean?
I love Tasteless to death, but damn, can you really tell he doesn't have a clue about sc2 beyond what he casts. I get that he's the hype caster, not the analyst, but still, I feel like with a very little effort (read preparation), he could do so much better. It feels like he takes the fact that we're watching for granted and that he got lazy (that's been my sense for the last ~3-4 years already).
In a previous cast he has proclaimed that SoS has really retired at his peak, and I just literally couldn't believe my ears, wondering if he's drunk or high. This was the most extreme example, but it definitely feels that his internal rankings are stuck in 2018.
Too long were we used to Artosis's level of analysis he just kept on bringing all those years. State is doing really well but of course has ways to go and Tasteless is just unable to carry.
You can see Tastelesses great progress as a caster and host personality and his regress as a SC2 caster specifically.
Agree with you here. I mean how hard is it for Tasteless to just spend a few mins/hours to catch up on the meta and at least be knowledgeable with the game? It's his job anyway. And he's always bringing up SC1 which is so frustrating.
The player ranked #1 by Dark...it's Dark.
gotta nerf terran.. this guy cant even look at his base. and he still winning
SMASH LIKE MOFOS!
still waiting the day ghosts get nerfed
Achievement unlocked : defeat top protoss professional player with only melee units and no baneling speed
Serral's been experimenting with a pure ling + infestor build -- and into ultras later iirc -- vs terran the past month or two, so it seems to be a general movement of experimentation that the other races will probably adjust to.
batman in pajamas
NeoHumanity map 1:58:00 is too good for terrans, it doesn't make sense.
They just need to turtle and autowin
it should be an auto-ban from Zerg, just like how Alttitude is an auto-ban from Terran.
damit hero
Hero really falling off a cliff...remember RO8? he barely squeaked by
Meta now is faking you didnt see the proxy so he dont cancel his building 😂
Live chat please 😢
Protoss too predictable
Protoss too nerfed. Maru patch and Maru map pool. Hoping that Protoss gets a little buff, in a way that doesn't seem broken.
Darkness
The cameras on the players faces are good but how ever they record the gameplay is making it dull and colorless.
Is that a little cardboard box walking around on NeoHumanity??
terran imba, nerf ghost EMP
buff protoss, maybe change storm somehow (+ damage on armored units?)? extend range on feedback? make feedback AOE? it should be something to do with HT I think. storm would affect Z too much.
just make it so that ghosts emp doesn't take off the entire shield, maybe 75%
@@jameslog3431 it doesnt take the entire shield, it does 100 shield dmg flat, switching to percentage could be even worse for protoss
@@chitahitsu4743 whatever I’m just saying there should a be cap to how much damage it’s able to do to the shield, I also feel like archons should be immune to emp bec they basically dissapear after they get hit w it
@@jameslog3431 actually they should deal NO damage on shields. That spell is not supposed to be an AoE nuke, it's an anti-caster spell.
But that's only one of the insane things Terran have, and they still can't take the big international ones. Really, they should be ashamed with their performance outside of Korea with such a broken race.
"So medge recources"
1-1-1 build? Bring back Destiny Cloud Fist. #husky
Watching the last game of the winners match, I'm hoping some changes come to TvZ because I think Terrans can play like that a lot more and not be too easily punished. I think Zergs would almost be forced into trying to blind counter greedier builds since Terran can deny scouting fairly easily unless Zerg makes a much heavier commitment to scout. I much prefer seeing larger pushes, counter attacks, and more interaction generally from both sides.
I think its a map specific thing, Neo Humanity has the watch tower on both sides, and the rock with slow zone in the middle making it near impossible for Zerg to win in early game, Terran can just sit home and wait until they have all the lategame tech before trying to fight. Not sure why Dark let this one through because its almost an instant veto by most of the Zerg.
Maybe if i had pentium 2 would i watch this in 360 tnx
Buff Terran pls, other races still have some chance of winning. Oh and nerf toss.
The terran players are just better. You can't complain about balance when hero move commands his whole army into ty and still wins. Toss deserved to lose every single game they lost. Except nightmare, who deserved to beat hero, who is in fact a protoss. maybe you should complain about protoss because pvp was the only matchup where the player who played better lost.
@@ghosthamster6521imagine actually thinking this
@@ghosthamster6521 Who is complaining? You are right, Protoss definitely deserved that loses and they need to buff Terran more.
Honestly, the Terran players are just playing better and are probably still enjoying the game. When Hero played, it felt like he lost his confidence. It's sad to see because he has the potential to be one of the best.
1:04:20 hoes gon' be hoes
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protoss is so sad nowadays that it's just to fill up the preliminary rounds and a morale booster for other races to advance to finals
it's called justice
@@ryan_cowan no it is not called justice. Toss is underperforming for years. Maybe not in ur ladder games though
Toss has been so under powered for a decade.
Minimum. I'm a Terran main and toss are so bad. Like they don't ever really have a chance
Protoss usually has lesser unit counts, at pro level when they make 1 tiny mistake and the army count will be like 50 against 100, almost guarantee no return from there. But if other races make a mistake by the time Protoss arrives for counter their army count equals back lol.
And their units r so bulky and slow, any attacks from 2 directions its as good as dead. Also they have so many units that can shoot down but not up or vice versa. I would like if they can nerf colossus range n dmg but can shoot air or disruptor can cancel the attack or even something more drastic.
@@maxsta4088 Look at hero's play and really consider, if that's the best pro that plays protoss, how bad is everyone else who picks the race. This guy move commands units across the map into an opponents army practically giving them away for free and still wins. Face it. These protoss players all deserved to lose.
what are thous very bad songs in pause, put one some dnb brake core, please
Cure stole Avilo's tutrlemech strat!
You know, herO really didn't make a good case for WHY we should want more Protoss in GSL with how these games went in this group.
Bizarre comment.. very difficult to make a severely underpowered race look fun or dramatic, dont really get what youre saying
I think it’s kinda hard to judge hero for this. P is so underpowered at this stage and you kinda have to do something out of the bag because standard play ends in a loss anyways
@@matthewclark7955 On the flip side, it's really easy to make a race look underpowered when you all you do is try and rush DTs and it gets scouted.
Zerg School
#firetasteless #firetasteless #firetasteless #firetasteless #firetasteless #firetasteless #firetasteless #firetasteless #firetasteless #firetasteless
Hero played quite sloppy
funny how tasteless often rushes to say " this guy is on another level"
in this case talking about dark against Ty, calm ur tits tasteless he is NOT. this is fucking Ty lol, did you watch him play round of 16? ya dark played great with agression as he often does, but he also got bo advantage, and thats part of sc2 too.
not because he won this series = he is on another level
Please buff Terran, they can still lose games to Xenos scum!
Either buff protoss, or nerf terran...
everything zerg is fucking OP; can use more nerfs
Umm
anyone else bored of terran?
No, because fair competition matters and if the best protoss player in the world throws units away for free by move commanding them into the enemy literally every game, they deserve to lose.
Very
@@ghosthamster6521terran is a joke my friend.
Forcing the Community to go to another Plattform, will destroy it. Its like commanding the viewership to go away... Im not longer watching live, im watching the vods here and im pretty sure the screen Limit is hurting more youtube users and GSL Fans...
dark didn't even look that good. Hero was just awful
TY is in a rust bucket, I'm surprised he got this far this quickly. I feel like he will be back up to shape in no time
you guyz should puta limit number of time you say momentum.. it start being remanant
So how exactly doe Zerg beat turtle terran? The game at thi point is completely boring, terran doesnt even have to attack all game, and they win.
Having not seen this yet, I am hoping TY and herO exit this group. Sorry Dark!
Well about that
@@ghosthamster6521 I knoooow eh?
Her0 playing like ass! Missing everything. His mind definitely not all there in those Cure matches.
Yea, he's been slumping for sure. The match is definitely T favored rn, so if he's not 100% then there's really very little chance...
@@apeist I like how you got your imba complaint in there...
@@TheVanillatech I'm T and my favorite pros are Maru and Gumiho. Anyone with eyes and a brain can see T has an advantage in the current patch/meta/maps
@TheVanillatech if you honestly think that T isn't favored you must be watching a different game
@@apeist I'm a strong confident black woman and even I can see that my ancestors probably deserved to be kidnapped from Africa and taken to work in the fields of the new world...
Yes left vs right bla bla bla
Could adults not go around yelling at children lol
I'm tired of being disappointed by Hero. So sloppy and careless, bums me out, cuz we all know how good he can be.
I think like all protoss' he's just getting really bored of having to play with such an absurdly underpowered race
@@matthewclark7955 this can't be a real person, right? such an npc reply...
Hero playing like trash this whole year
I feel like Katowice really took its toll on Hero/Maru
@@apeist Maru still manage to win a GSL, and could win another one next week. Its herO who has not done well in big tournament, but he manage to win a couple of weekly and smaller tournament.
offline yes. online he still wins so much
@@BlackTorrent double storm/defensive disruptors