Age of Mythology Retold: Screenshots, No China, Repeatable God Powers, Esports Growth & More
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Super hyped from what was shown! Love the direction of the art style.
Reusable god powers are nice in theory but would need a massive balance change. Something like shockwave having a cooldown would be fine but the earthquakes, plenty vaults, flaming weapons etc would be crazy
You're absolutely correct, there is a massive difference between the power levels. This will need to be very carefully balanced so that the high impact powers don't become overbearing. I think though that repeats will be very useful for breaking up stalemates, which in general should be a good thing.
There will be probably some birting difficulties but from what i see they relay heavliy on the old game with improvements of course so i think it will be great
What I can see is the first time use is free but when the cool down is done, you have to pay up this time, depending on how strong the God power is
Reusable god powers is imo a good change. I wonder if they will include a "classic mode" as well.
Regarding the release date, I guess they'll aim for October/November 2024 considering that in the past years all major AoE releases were during that window.
In general, it's a good thing yes. Just needs to be done carefully, as some powers are devastating, while others fall off very easily over time.
But I do think that there is positive impact to be had on the late game to close out stalemates.
Reusable god powers is a terrible idea for vanilla but seeing this is basically a remake I think they can pull it off
the screenshots look amazing! i never played the og age of mythology, but i'm stoked for retold.
Perfect, I think it's supposed to do exactly this! I'll have to make guides :D
Looks awesome!! The norse screenshot was hype
My reaction on artstyle of thumbnail was quite positive, only deity I was a bit surprised was Gaia (at least I'm assuming it’s her) - they went from human look to treant-like look. Not that I would mind, both variants are fine with me, just a bit surprised.
Also, if god-powers will be now rechargable, I do think each use should cost favor as well (for example 25 for A1 powers, 50 for A2, 75 for A3 and full 100 for A4 like meteors or implosion).
With Gaia's visual changes (again assuming that's her) I believe its to go inline with how the other Titans were designed, less human more primordial and elemental.
I just find the art a bit too mobile game-like, especially on the cover. In game is much better.
As for god power cost, absolutely need a favor component, but I think normal resources too. If the favor burden is too much, myth unit play will suffer for it. So much easier to click a god power than to get myth units to pay back their cost.
@@NakamuraRTS I do have to say, I'm one of those weirdos who actually loves this cartoonish style (if the only vice of mobile games would be their artstyle, I would consider them idols of escapism xD), I loved it in last Civilization, I liked it in AoE 4 and I didn't mind it (unlike many other changes that happened there) in AoE 3 DE. But I understand it's not for everyone's taste, to each their own, I'm not going to judge.
The most important part of the game for me was the editor, with friends we had several projects and built a Community around scenarios. The death of the game was only the servers that made the game so unstable and our scenarios were unable to run without constant lags. I wish they did not mess too much with the game core mechanics and balances and simply allowed for a stable environment
This looks so good.
Wooooooooooooooooot! Prostagma!
They showed next to nothing, but the AoM community is used to nothing, so we'd take anything I guess. I like the graphics and that they introduced a new game mode. I think that the new game mode, along with custom scenarios made by fans in an improved engine with modern graphics will attract a big audience of people. My biggest hope is that the game plays good and will have a healthy stable matchmaking system.
For sure it would have given them a lot more authenticity to show gameplay, such as the first campaign mission, edited down for brevity. That said, the screenshots look pretty good. Only mildly critical about the plastic-like material of some units. Hugely agreed about new ways to play bringing in more players. Looking very forward to good multiplayer systems myself.
I don't know why people were expecting some gameplay or a new trailer when they explicitly said they were showing just some myth units
woop woop! 👏👏👏
The Hype is real baby
I'm not sure how much attention you pay to the AoE2 and AoE4 scenes, but I don't think much of this was surprising, except perhaps the lack of China. Both of those games were ported to Xbox last year and apparently were quite successful, so the upcoming game also being on console is pretty well expected. The increased focus on esports is also something that has been incredibly helpful in the older games, with competitions like T90's Hidden Cup (the 5th iteration of which starts _this weekend_ ) and Red Bull Wololo (which was also teased in the announcement) being a big draw for getting new people into Age of Empires, even if those new people end up being casual players.
I'm aware of the xbox ports. What does surprise me is that they're doing it all simultaneously. There was no talk of staggered releases, at least, unlike the games before. Would be incredible if there were large scale esports events for AoM too.
I hope they add new gods/Civs in the future.
Sumarian, Imazighen, Canaanite and other civs would be awesome.
Wow😍👍
Loving the art style, though I’ll need to see things in game to really judge. Can’t really comment on reusable god powers since I haven’t played competitively, but I like the idea behind it.
Pretty interested in if/how they’ll change campaigns, and how that’ll affect the speedruns lmao. No more easy loki’s temples.
Thanks for bringing up how different the art style is, I'm (overly) fixated on that :/
At least in-game is a lot more faithful, that's what truly matters in the end!
2:08 My guy. That Javelin Hero is from the campaign...
Not referring to Reginleif. Look in the top half, there is a new type of Norse hero there.
I am a weirdo who think the Chinese not being in is a good thing, not only do they need a complete rework, but I think they also need other civilizations near them, I know technically there is way to travel in the setting with the Sky Passage or going through the Underworld, but I think it would be more impact full if their campaign had you against other mythologies like Japanese, Hindu.
Heck, considering the setting, you could have them fighting Aztecs/Incas on the continent of Mu since that's the Pacific ocean version of Atlantis
Completely understandable that they're leaving the China DLC out, but I definitely would have preferred it had they instead chosen to improve it.
i already posted my thoughts and feelings so i won't copy past them again (didn't know you would make a separate video). i just wanted to point out that around 2:28 yes, thats the wadjet on the left with the colourful wings. honestly its way better and more accurate design. there is even a mod who gives the wadjet feathered wings and thats cause it seems wadjet means something like feathered snake or something. and i tink it makes the unit way more interesting and kind of pretty. i personally always thought even as a kid that the wadjet is one of the weakest and least interesting units but with the new design i already changed my mind at least visually! now i hope it will have a cooler attack and maybe special. (still wonder why there is a scorpian man - even it always was and is badass - and why the hydra gains heads instead of lose and regrow them or something - even it was my fav myth unit as a kid but maybe the will make there changes too the next months cause the consistency of the design is a bit "strange". like some myth units get super attentiona and kind of a brand new look and others even visually obviously upgraded, stay pretty much the same from what i saw in the screenshots. i also think the community sometimes isn't consistent aswell cause sometimes they say "thats not lorefriendly!" but then we have e.g. scorpionman a cool, but made up unit. but here they either don't talk about it or say "thats how it always was". ... like they are nitpicky in a few things but for the rest they don't care enough. i mean i have my main emphasises too, but this all feels so random at times. ... really had a discussion with a guy that said "you can't put jormungandr into the game!" and i responded "sure you can, we have units like leviathan!" and then they don't really know what to say anymore. ... also not a fan of all the "spawn" argument like "this unit is too big thats why we make it way smaller and call it a spawn or something" - why? there are other units which are no spawn or something, big and still in the game. again: no consistency. thats what bothers me by far the most over the past two decades.
Agree that the Wadjet needs something of a cool factor to it in gameplay. Maybe some poison damage over time like the scorpion man has.
As for the Hydra, perhaps the Dark Elf hydra in Total War Warhammer is a better implementation. It has multiple heads to start with, and a burst regen ability that triggers at low health, as well as a fire breath attack. Though I definitely think it is fun to grow these heads with experience farming.
Scorpion man, Roc, Avenger, Leviathan, Mummy, Anubite, and Phoenix are all filler units, primarily from other mythologies or pop culture/made up. Egyptian is tough like that, as there are few authentic options to go with.
The Jormund and Fenris spawn make sense to me, as depicting something that overpowered would be just silly. It would be like spawning Osiris from the scenario editor.
@@NakamuraRTS okay well first of thanks for the more detailed feedback and I really like to get some different point of perspective on things especially when you can write with the guy without someone getting „stubborn“ during the conversation (happened to me way too often personally) in regards of the Wadjet I think the spitting okay is okay (which I hope they remove form the jormun elver) but they could have a special either via poisoning or making a little puddle maybe which slows units (don’t know if that’s possible) yeah I really really like the Hydra design in both TWW and TWTroy. i understand that many like the growing heads mechanic via kills and gaining dmg - for me it would be a cool compromise if the design would look finally more serpent and less dino like. (my I idea would have been to let the hydra start with 5 heads which resemble 20% of the units hole life. And if you dmg the hydra it will lose heads but out of combat - as you mentioned - it will regenerate health and let heads regrow to resemble that. But I don’t know if that’s possible with the engine) about the Egypt stuff you are writing about I honestly never understood why they didn’t dig deeper in Egypt lore instead of filling it with other (cool) creatures. But it is what it is now and I am totally fine with it, I just get quite confused when you come with new ideas and ppl tell you “that’s not lore and civ accurate accurate! it can’t get implemented ” but don’t mention filler units like e.g. you mentioned. Bit weird. About Jormungandr and Fenris I understand I am alone here it’s okay xD maybe they would be better titans but I still very much think old AoM overdid it with the spawn thing and made them too small and especially the jormun elver too much like a watersnake which spits. I really hope it will be at least as big as the other naval myth units and has a different moveset and attack. If the wolf in the centre of the screenshot really is fenris brood I am not complaining at all. Finally fenris brood looks at least more badass and bigger to be on par with other myth age creatures. Liked it’s original design more than the jormun elver tho. Another unit I am curious to see and didn’t see yet is the manticore which will definitely profit very much from the better graphics and slight changes (aswell as the troll who I always thought should be heroic unit personally being tougher an throwing big rocks instead of small rocks with also a regen passive. Maybe it’s a good sign we didn’t see these units yet) and sorry I was so stubborn about the jormungandr thematic I will change my mind for the most part here.
Titans should be so powerful that they will be offen used in multiplayer.
I don't know about this one haha
I absolutely hate Isis' hands up in the air like she's palpatine using force lightning. who does she think she is... zeus?
Yeah, it looks like a silly superhero movie poster
Giga cheesy for sure haha
Man... I hope that my GTX 1650 and i5 10400f can withstand this game
The cpu should be fine, but the 1650 probably means you'll be playing on low/medium, is what I would expect.
I don't like the cartoony look but I've always wanted a modern hd remake and continuation of this game
Aw damn, I am super hyped but going back to just 4 civs feels like a bit of a downgrade.
I hope they go the AOE4 route and add more civs in later updates/dlcs. Chinese were badly implemented but a super interesting civ.
Also Aztecs, Celts and Slavs would be really cool
Strongly agree, need DLCs! But if they can deliver higher quality with just the core civs first, fine, I'll take that too.
I hope the Chinese make their return at some point and finally get the level of polish they deserve!
God power cooldowns sounds great overall, just as long as we take care to rein in a couple of special cases and keep them from being too obnoxious.
I think individual power cooldowns are likely going to be tweaked a few times in balance patches in the beta and post-launch. Yuen is right - the anticipation of knowing an important cooldown is about to run out does catch spectators' attention. I wouldn't be surprised if, say, Ceasefire has a downtime delay where the same power cannot be cast again - at least by the same team. Or maybe Ceasefire's cooldown is paused while another Ceasefire is still active to reduce the uptime.
I am interested to see, in the case of the summons (Nidhogg, Son of Osiris), will the game allow you to own more than one at the same time? I can imagine Atlanteans developing a fairly strong turtling game as they can stack up spider lairs on their main base over time, or Hades putting Sentinels on multiple town centres.
Earthquake and its ilk are already pretty devastating and can be potentially game-ending from just one cast. But if you cast it and it does nothing, that can be a pretty big FeelsBad for the user. Getting another shot at it, say, 10-12 minutes later is probably fair game in my book. It's not spammable, you can still be punished in its downtime, it's still important to use it wisely. Multiple rounds of Ragnarok probably wouldn't actually be that big a deal. You're already sacrificing your entire economy to use it, going way over your pop cap, and if you haven't won the game off the back of that you're in huge trouble and probably going to lose before it comes off cooldown to try again.
Certainly the god powers that were much weaker in the base game (Forest Fire, Undermine, Carnivora, etc.) can afford to have fairly low cooldowns.
Agree with this broadly. Multiple Son of Osiris in the same fight is asking for trouble for sure. Ceasefire back to back is a very dangerous meme that could ruin team games. They also have to think about the receiving end in team games. Triple Ra resulting in triple Locust, triple Tornado, and some shifting Sands, with potentially another round to kill off one player... This sounds awful to go through.
As for Ragnarok, if norse is any good at the late game, you should be able to stockpile resources and periodically go for Ragnarok with Frost and rams to knock down bases. It's a dangerous idea!
A great addition would be to add a "faction maker" present in many older games with custom properties such as making civilizations. They could add options for adding models and animations. It would add huge longevity.
Now game looks like ParaWorld. Not bad)
Seria bueno que Aom retold haga una colaboración con Fortnite, ya que la proxima temporada de Fortnite tratara sobre tematica griega
This is great. I am sad only that every other RTS giant is getting love except for War3. I wonder what these guys would have done with War3 if given a chance.
Feeling bad for the WC3 community. But now that the IP is under Microsoft's umbrella, perhaps you guys can create a petition?! It sometimes works!
@@NakamuraRTS dont know why there hasnt been one up until now. None of the big names from the community have tried that. People would i think sign it but big names from the community are needed to stand behind it. I will try to comment on some of the videos if major names from the War3 side of the RTS community start reacting to this splendid remake of AOM. But also some help would be nice from other parts of our community that are part of the Microsoft family ( Aoe, Aom etc ) so that we can finally all enjoy this wave of RTS renewal.
Is this have Chinese abd Aztec?
No mention of them at all. They did say long ago that China will be back, improved. But they never told us when that will happen.
I'm not convinced by the few screenshots.
I prefer wait for actual gameplay before falling to the hype trap.
Good, no need to preorder digital products. Buy when you are happy with what you see.
I hate the new Gaia. And no it's not just because we no longer get the giant bikini lady in the Titans campain. Its more that she doesn't have a nose!! My beautiful earth lady got turned into tree Voldemort
Gaia is a primordial goddess (along with her son-hubby Ouranos) and embodies Mother Earth... the ultimate mommy
Oceanus / Ôkeanos will still sport piscine features for a Titan god in Re-Told.
i never know why they didn't ad hinduisme gods it has more options then these chinese gods
why no china? I kind of liked the faction
In my opinion they will still get around to it, but later. Hopefully they don't try to sell them again though, that would not be ethical after the wider community's feedback.
@@NakamuraRTS I commented about it on the official channel and said that they probably are going to sell it to us as dlc. My comment quickly git deleted...
i think its fine. but you know, it was already an amazing game and i am just not sure whether they improved on that. the landscapes certainly look a bit nicer i guess.
There's definitely a lot more detail. Though nothing ground-breaking in the grand scheme of things if you look at other RTS games. Bringing AoM to the current generation is good enough for me!
i was quite disapointed at the reveal that we got, as it was just the improved unit models like they could have shown the screenshots and talked about them as well but for me them saying upgrading units will show on the models was something already in game both myth and normal units, for example upgrading shields would first give them a shield and them make it bigger and shiner with each upgrade. i personally would have liked to see just some basic game play even if it was heavily scripted and cheesy and all that. as considering it comes out this year, if it was next year sure they would have the chance to do this event again and show case there. but currently we havent really been shown any changes to a remake than just cosmetic which is a remaster
I agree - the AR segment was fine, but surely they could have put some of the actual game on display. That's what hypes people up.
About upgrades making visual impact, that did not use to be the case for most myth units actually! So this is very important. Hugely appreciating that. You're totally correct about human units though.
Supposedly we will see a lot more at Gamescom.
No one is going to talk about the lack of Ajax, the first great ally of Arkantos, in the cover while Amanra is there? Really?
Honestly, Zeus and the other greek gods look fine, but dear god do Odin and Gaia look stupid.
It's so cartoony and I hate it >.<
But hopefully they have some time before release to go over some of the portraits, and fix Odin's weird scifi helmet and have Gaia look a bit more grounded.
Repeatable god powers i dont like ...
Good video comment, terrible game presentation.
Wish I had more to work with lol!
Ouph.....I dont like the new grahics. It looks like AOE 4, and I didnt buy that game only because of the graphics.
I wish they would go with a AOE 2 remade look instead.
New units and China missing......another blow. I enjoy china faction. So far dont think Im jumping in.
My suspicion is China will come post-launch, either as a DLC or (hopefully) as a free update.
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I will get the game once it is back in.
I am not paying 2x for a game I already have but with less content.
Hi guys, is it going to be multiplayer/online 1v1 or 2v2 modes like prevoious game?