The Untold Terrifying Meaning of OLD (2021)
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00:00 - Old is based on a graphic novel called Sandcastle
03:15 - A general overview of the main theme
05:45 - Differences with the graphic novel
07:23 - How time is presented as a the villain
09:51 - The tragedy of its characters
12:24 - The scene that "broke me"
14:40 - Shyamalan's "plot twist"
16:35 - Sandcastle's bleaker, poetic ending - Zábava
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Unbreakable.
Definitely "The Sixth Sense", though I also rate "Signs" or "The Village!"
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Who else watched the Nostalga Critic's review of Old?
I think there’s a bit of psychological horror to the movie since most people naturally fear getting older and losing control of themselves as their mind deteriorate and to have that happen as quick as it does in the movie is actually scary
Too bad it was so terribly written
The original graphic novel this movie is based on is haunting in its unrelenting exploration of the transience of life and our lingering, inevitable mortality. It made me rethink my life after reading it.
Ryan's premise alone made it sound enticing, but I'm also half-scared to be thinking about it for a long time after
The novel was thought provoking. I'm convinced M. Night didn't understand any of it and was just like "COOL OLD PEOPLE!".
Not sure if anyone will read this, but I really do appreciate this channel. Always watch his videos whilst eating breakfast at about 6am during my commute to work, and they always cheer me up for the day. Thanks Ryan :)
Thanks!!
Strange, I always watch them when eating supper before going to bed. His videos are oddly calming and always great to listen too.
@@kingcesar8104 also am on the dinner bandwagon.
Brushing teeth over here :)
I also save his videos for breakfast.
Leon Thomas’ review of Old goes like this. “You know when you read the Old English version of Beowulf in college, and it almost resembles something you recognize but not exactly? That's what dialogue in an M. Night Shyamalan movie is like.”
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
@Jo Geller
Leon Thomas is cynical and boring.
I immediately unfollowed him following his review of old.
@@alienboy1322 from this quote he seems pretty funny and interesting to me so I’m going to check him out instead
@@maddieb.4282
Don't waste your time. I'm done with the guy.
After that 'Forest Gump" video essay which was one the most frustrating video essays I ever seen on CZcams, he means nothing to me. And I used to like the guy but now he's just being a hole of boring pretentiousness.
What a shame.
"time is just the henchman of death" damn, that legitimately sounds like a setup for a story in and of itself!
I believe death is a henchman of time. There are so many miserable and utterly heartbreaking henchman of time slowly stripping everything we hold dear. Time is the only unstoppable power. Death, we still have hope of defeating.
As much as I would prefer the original Sandcastle's ending, the actual ending of the film gave me a much needed catharsis, even if it's not thematically in line with the story like you said.
Keeping the original ending would have been too bleak
I mean, as much as I prefer the original ending because it's in-line with the story and just makes you feel disturbed and depressed, it's clear that it wouldn't be as accessible and people wouldn't exactly have received it quite as well
I worry that the original ending might leave viewers feeling just it's too bleak, but it could also work too. I remember when I was a kid my family was watching an old weird movie and it ended absolutely every character died and the bleakness of it kind of stuck with me.
Personally I think I take the Fairly radical View that Bleak endings are not really of much use to society these days.
Like the point of such can often be to try and express fatalism or comment on how life can be washed away easily or is ultimately brief. Such messages can have a point but I posit what I would assume is a radical idea that General audiences don't need to be given such a point these days.
I'd almost side with the idea that we should instead be embracing almost fantastical happy joyous endings. Which directly goes against many people's belief that such Disneyesq endings are only for children, that they have no place in movies meant for adults or discussing the real world.
Yet I would argue General audiences today need to be reminded and informed that hope is a real thing. That a message challenging nihilism and the uselessness of life or the inevitability of complete societal collapse has become the radical anti-establishment kind of messaging. If anything's Society is lacking from media and movies meant to help uplift us, whereas a movie like old has a place but I don't think it's 2022. The pandemic has made us all aware of how sudden deaths can be. It's length and seemingly endless nature, while not actually truly endless feel so in a way that I think movies and media would be seen as challenging the Zeitgeist to remind us that there is a hopeful future for us and our children.
@@BladedEdge123 nihilism, absurdism etc, these are not new to our generation. stoicism also is similar too. existentialism. i think this 'bleakness,' exists when people find that there isn't gonna be a super bright happy ending. it's almost the ending you get from years of people being shown super happy endings, when they start to realize that no that isn't completely real. you said people need happy endings because it gives them hope, but what do people do when hope is damaged? when people aren't powerful enough to conquer everything that comes in their way, or societies way. I mean certainly there is a purpose to hope. I recently started watching a little bit of super hero movies (well the bleaker ones lol), but they have that sense of noble purpose and doing the right thing, and that is beautiful too. According to Sartre's absurdism (if i understand him), he says that we are left with the awareness that there is no grand purpose to life and it's that lack of purpose that leaves us in this feeling of the absurd. which people would generally do things not to feel this. And so whether you view yourself as a hero character doing good, or this bleak hopeless one at the end of the day, i don't know that it matters. it will speak to who it speaks to.
Just like the movie, the sandcastle comic isn't a perfect graphic novel either.
The one thing that was outstanding about it was the artist's ability to age the characters page by page.
I'd give that guy an Eisner for that.
I wished that Trent and Kara's baby had survived in the film. In the original graphic novel, they're actually the last to survive, growing rapidly into middle age.
It doesn’t make sense the baby died from starvation if no one else did, because they all would have been malnourished very quickly and not growing up into healthy normal people based on their lowered caloric intake.
Her baby wouldn’t even have made it to term because she needed even more calories than normal to bring it to term.
Yeah what happened to the incest subplot??
@@ReIigionlsForIdiots I mean, babies are different. Especially a baby that would be growing at whatever rate they were. Adults and children older than a certain age can handle starving for a couple of weeks.
Not feeding a baby for 24 to 36 hours is pretty much a death sentence.
Babies need protein just to survive
I do think it was more realistic for the baby to die though. I have the graphic novel, and the ending always seemed so sad. I knew thered be a cool twist in the movie
@@LoudAngryJerk Stop trying to defend the utterly shoddy execution of the time premise.
According to the supposed acceleration in time the entire cast would have starved to death in minutes not just the baby.
“And castles made of sand fall into the sea… Eventually. “ -Jimmy Hendrix
I haven't watched Old, but I have read Sandcastle. While I'm not a purist and don't mind when adaptions change things to suit the different medium, time, and context, after hearing about Old's ending, I was put off from any desire to see it. People who prefer Old for having a more bittersweet ending are valid! Sandcastle is extremely bleak and depressing and a lot of people probably feel awful after reading it. Yet for me, there's something oddly cathartic about it. No one is saved, because time comes for us all - and no matter where you're from, we're all going to the same end.
Exactly this! I interpreted Sandcastle’s ending as meaning “You can’t fight time, and we’ll all die, so spend time with your loved ones doing things you love, even if no one remembers you after you’re gone.” That’s a poignant message. Having some characters escape feels like avoiding the thematic question. It just seemed like a cop out for a nice happy ending.
I bet the comic is better than the film
Life: The game no one wins but everyone plays.
I strongly relate to this as I consider myself a positive nihilist; sure nothing matters and we all die, but that’s why we need to find happiness in our lives so we dont die regretful. Sand castle really highlights that in my mind
@@midgematic8659 I feel the same way; we’re tiny specks on a ball spinning through the sky, who will die and be forgotten along with everything we’ve ever done. However, we’ve won the cosmic lottery to exist and live our lives. I think it’s very helpful but everyone thinks I’m a pessimist lol
My favorite part is when the adults comment that the kids are always hungry, like their metabolism has been quickened as well, it would take literally millions of calories to grow from child to adolescent, and the heat generated by the effort would probably make the person on burst into flames if it was condensed to a few hours.
Well yes, I think it's pretty clear that the events of the story are not supposed to be scientifically accurate
That’s the beauty of allegory. But I also love picking at the deeply consequential implications of the whole premise. After I watched it, I went back and tore it apart out of jest.
Yes thermogenesis would happen holy shit it would feel like your in a sauna at all times...
I think that's a big problem with the movie, that it tries to explore the specifics of the situation and ends up making you question things, whereas the novel skimmed over the details.
Like, if we really want to get into it, they all need to be eating and drinking near constantly to avoid dehydrating or starving to death. The women should spurting blood constantly since their time of the month is happening every few minutes.
It bothers me only because they show wounds healing in seconds and the baby dying of neglect almost immediately after birth, so they take some things more scientifically but other things they ignore entirely. Whereas the novel didn't bother with science at all so I didn't feel distracted by it.
That's what I mean, if the film was "accurate" they would die within seconds because their brains would use up oxygen faster than can be resupplied through the air. It would not be a very fun movie
The concept of a place that causes you to age rapidly and that you can't escape is pretty much one of my worst nightmares. When I was younger and came to the realization that all people would eventually grow old and die, (figured that out when it happened to characters in DB GT) it well horrified me, especially knowing there was nothing you could do about it. Granted I've for the most part gotten over it though this pandenmic nonsense that effectively stole more than a year of our lives from us certainly hasn't made me feel much better.
Upvote for DB GT! 😁✌
@@Matthewforpresident Yeah kind of figured people would focus on that. But seriously the last part of the final episode with only Pan left alive of the old gang, now old while everyone else, even Vegeta, Gohan and the like long dead despite all their frankly absurd power and all they'd be through.
It's like, if they can get old and die, then so can we.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 Honestly? Valid. We all learn things about life from unexpected places, and I think that honestly makes a lot of sense. (Personally Goku having a heart attack in DB Z really kinda messed with my head space a bit ngl. Dude is generally fit and really active, but genetics gonna genetic apparently.)
Personally I'm not worried about dying, I'm worried about falling apart on the way. Considering how bad off I already am, I honestly can't imagine getting old.
In a lot of ways, I'm already where people tend to describe being old. By the time I was 10, I couldn't imagine being old because I couldn't imagine life in general. I knew it happened to people by around 6, but that was to other people (including people I care about) but probably not me.
Being attached to cats, along with the above mentioned, have only deepened that feeling. It's weird.
Plandemic*
Nah for me is more a place that repeats ot self constantly for eternity
Atlist in that island you will get the solace of knowing you will die eventually
I think what annoys me most with this film is that it is genuinely a creepy concept that consistently gets hampered because no one responses to any of this like a normal human being. Heck, even some exaggeration would be more appreciated than just basically watching aliens in human skin try to make convincing drama under such extraordinary circumstances. Like that scene with that woman and her limbs getting destroyed or the baby turning into dust should have been utterly shocking, but when everything is under such a sense of mild reaction, it just makes you wonder if you should be laughing or not. At least now we can say this is pretty much entirely on M. Night if one dislikes it since he's pretty much mostly got creative control on his films since "The Visit", so it can be completely defended by saying "studio interference" or anything like that.
Agreed this film had massive potential but the writing and delivery of dialogue really takes you out of it
He makes his actors act like aliens in every fucking movie. He had one, maybe two, good movies, and he keeps getting work. Ugh.
Yeah... I'm 25 and the scene with the lady twisting her limbs into horrible positions made me tear up and I had to look away. I was shaking for a while after the scene ended. I feel like those kids were barely affected by that, and they were actually supposed to be witnessing it for real!
Based on the way M. Night writes his characters you'd think he'd never met a human being before.
I disagree. I'm tired of overly exaggerated characters who just scream every time something happens and mindlessly don't think of a way beside blaming others. In this movie, I like how they acted adults and discussed their situation and thought of many solutions like what I would have done and many other adults I know what would have done in real life.
I heard the nature of the "twist" ending was to try and create the basis of a cinematic universe in a similar vein to Resident Evil.
Just rumours but Shyamalan is known for linking movies so I can believe it.
Exhibit A: His Eastrail 177 trilogy (Unbreakable, Split, Glass). 😉
Is he trying to be a horror version of Kevin Smith or something?
I can't wait for these two adult children to somehow end up involved with whatever characters are left over from unbreakable/glass XD
I went to watch Old with my friend who is a fan of Shyamalan. Though I didn't really care for most of the movie, it was definitely the scene with Prisca and Guy reflecting on their lives as elderly people that made it worth having watched. I wish it was a short film, maybe 30 minutes, just about the family and how time speeds up and they live and die in a day, because that would be so bittersweet and tragic. And although Sandcastles' ending sounds more sharp and fitting, I think there is also an element of horror in how Maddox and Trent are going to have to live with the events of what happened, being older than their aunt, who will now take care of them, and never having the lives they would have wanted to live, and then a couple of years after the events of the movie, one or both of them will probably commit suicide due to the trauma.
So basically all of the haunting and thought provoking themes are within the original graphic novel and only conceptually within the film.
The problem is that the film was written by Shyamalan, who’s been writing dialogue for the past 2 decades like an alien who’s just still trying to decipher how humans actually communicate.
You could call it “just his style”, however his “style” is unintentional hilarity.
Lmao so true 😂
Most of his movies are unintended comedies.
What took me out of the movie was that the kids physically aged but the adults, it just seemed their maladies progressed.
At the end of the day it's a Shymalyan movie so it has an interesting concept told in the most ham fisted way possible.
What I resent about the guy as a director is how he draws you in with really compelling concepts and then just completely wastes them with dull/stupid characterizations and nonsensical plotlines. I actually thought he might've gotten his groove back after watching the trailer for The Visit, but when I actually did watch it I absolutely hated it. I've sworn him off from now on, I refuse to be tricked again.
M. Night Shyamalan is a wonderfully frustrating filmmaker and Old showed him at his best and worst. I love his style of cinematography because I am a sucker for long takes. Old had a great premise for a supernatural thriller and Shyamalan does work a lot better when making smaller-scale stories. The birth scene was wonderfully horrific. But Shyamalan has no understanding of how to write dialogue which resulted in the actors giving some wooden performances. Plus the idea of two characters who were mentally six having sex and having a baby was really icky.
To be fair that happens in the book too
Even worse for me was that the birth scene happened and was promptly forgotten, there was no lasting effect aside from 1 or 2 throwaway pieces of dialogue
I'd actually argue that two mentally 6-year old characters are more likely to have a baby that quickly. All those hormones without the knowledge to hold those feelings back is a likely consequence
"Our Town" is kind of like the foil to OLD. It's not a movie, but there is a filmed version of the play on PBS that I think can be found on CZcams.
It also explores the themes of things like time, death, life, and appreciating every moment that you can. It comes to the forefront in Act III, where Emily, the protagonist discovers that she has died in childbirth, when her spirit appears in the graveyard with the rest of her relatives/townspeople. She has the ability to pick one moment from her life that she can choose to revisit, even though she is advised against doing so, but she insists, so she picks the simple moment of her eating breakfast with her family. Not a birthday party, not her wedding day, just a simple time that you barely even think about because it happens every day.
Needless to say, Emily is heartbroken and distraught when she realizes just how much time is being wasted. Her parents are rushing past each other, no one sits down to speak with each other at breakfast. She says, "It all goes by so fast, we don't even have time to look at each other!"
And another character tells her, "That's what it was to be alive. To move about in a cloud of ignorance; to go up and down trampling on the feelings of those... of those about you. To spend and waste time as though you had a million years. To be always at the mercy of one self-centered passion or another. Now you know - that's the happy existence you wanted to go back to. Ignorance and blindness."
It's extremely depressing. But eye opening. It's a lot different from the usual "appreciate life" messages that you see in other works of media.
Thank you for sharing this, going to go check it out :)
If you enjoy theater I would also recommend Carousel, it’s an older musical and there was a very good film made in the 50’s. Very similar themes and extremely heart wrenching
The sandcastle metaphor reminds me of a Jimi Hendrix lyric, “And castles made of sand, slips into the sea, eventually”
I enjoyed Old. Even at his worst I can always find something interesting in Shyamalan movies.
One thing tho. The old age moments of the parents are AMAZING. The acting and delivery etc was great. Idk if it was on purpose but seems like the script took an upgrade there.
"Sandcastle" made me incredibly sad, but the fable told in the end made me understand it all. Everyone seems to make peace with their approaching death. Life may sometimes be as pleasant as sand in your bathing suit and time may move way faster than we think, but please don't be afraid to live! The only one who doesn't die peacefully is the baby who is the next generation left to fend for themselves in this confusing mess we call life. Maybe she will be able to escape the beach, maybe not. What happens next is up to us.
I like this style of video where ya mix in sections of you talkin to the camera. Great work as usual. I really enjoyed Old. I knew a twist was comin, which can sometimes be hit or miss… but this one I enjoyed
"Someone once told me that time was a predator that stalked us all our lives, but I'd rather believe that time is a companion who goes with us on our journey, reminds us to cherish every moment because they'll never come again." - Jean Luc Picard
Sandcastle is very "French" and as such follows certain symbols like a pig to slop.
The author has cited climate change and a family anecdote about everyone in their train car going to a concentration camp arguing with one another as the main theme and inspiration.
As a result, the sandcastle imagery is more likely a reference to the parable comparing the house-building techniques of wise and foolish men.
I've not read sandcastle but after watching old I found myself haunted by the ending, I dunno just trying to picture how the survivors will try and intergrade back into society while also trying to make up for whatever time they have left while lamenting the loss of their life just stuck with me
I wouldn't mind seeing you tackle a not so well known movie from 2009 called Lo. Its more like a play rather than a movie and is pretty low budget, but the passion behind it really shows for this story about a guy trying to use a demon to get his girlfriend out of hell.
That’s a fantastic musical film. I really enjoyed that movie tremendously. I couldn’t ever find it again though after I had watched it.
@@Dimimash I bought the DVD just to rewatch it a bunch, but you should still be able to find the whole movie on CZcams. Its not the best quality, but still entertaining.
Added this to my watchlist from this comment, thanks!
@@13JackDiamond I just remember it was on Netflix back in like ‘10 and it sat in the horror genre for awhile but I came across it with my father and that’s how we ended up watching it. I’ll probably get it on Amazon or eBay somewhere.
@@Dimimash Yeah, old Netflix had some really weird but interesting movies to look through that I'm still trying to find. I think the 2009 film Ink was also on there. Great movie. Another one was a really acid trip of a foreign film that I can't find or remember the name that was about dreams and dream vampires or something? It freaked me out but I loved it despite how it felt like I was watching a student film. Ironically trying to remember it is like recalling moments in an actual dream.
The interesting difference between the movie and the film for me is that Old adds points of reference that clarify that the beach is ageing people while their minds are working at the normal rate. Sandcastle allows for an alternate reading - where time is running at normal speed but the characters' perception is slowed down. That might explain the phone being disconnected.
I really enjoy M. Night movies, even with all the inconsistencies, plot holes, and sometimes just downright ridiculously silly characters. Sometimes I just want to let go and enjoy the ride.
As far as movies that cover the way humans relate to time, I personally love Arrival(2016) Just rewatched & bawled my eyes out.
Pls no don't give him a pass
Arrival had me rethinking my entire existence. My favorite movie of all time.
@@loganwelty7094 I think I love it more every time I watch it.
Film Joy just did a movie tournament and Arrival won 😉
@@lkf8799 thank you for the heads up 😊
I always wondered.. How did the baby die of not getting enough nutrition or w/e.. but the people didn't die of starvation, since years were going by in hours...but they never were constantly eating to keep up with their rate of metabolism?
I think someone didn't want to deal with it down the line.
Trent: "What's your name and occupation?"
Ryan Hollinger: "I'm Ryan and I'm a HOYEVER maker."
Midsized Sudan: "Oh Damn."
Have I mentioned I love this channel because it's willing to find positives in movies that are popular to shit on? Well, I'll mention it again.
I actually did like this movie (nauseating cinematography aside), and am surprised everyone seems to regard it as being horrible. I've come to actually respect Shyamalan as a filmmaker, just because he's willing to do things that are different and weird, even if it seems everyone regards him as a hack. Look at it this way: it's easy to keep making original films when you're Quentin Tarantino and everyone loves everything you do, but to keep making films when you've become a critical punching bag takes guts.
To be totally fair, this is the kind of film I would expect to have nauseating cinematography. I don't know if it was intentional, but it plays very well into the disorienting nature of the story.
@@EddieM1994 I remember being in the theater and trying to come up with a reason as to why Shyamalan chose to use the camera like he did. Say what one will about Shyamalan's previous films, but he obviously does know his way around a camera, so there's no doubt it's a stylistic choice. I eventually decided he was trying to keep the focus on the rock formations in the background, as they're basically the villains of the film, but the end result is that it's still kind of nauseating, and probably played no small part in why people didn't like the film.
This film is very unique, but I hated that they explained the reason why they're growing old so fast.
Thank you Ryan for the awesome video
Agreed, part of the experience in the graphic novel was the lack of explanation. The implication that this is just how life is and half the time the world seems cruel and unknowable.
i was hesitant to watch this movie for one major reason. i feel like the comic portrayed the children aging well. while they still had a childlike sense of curiosity they did mentally age and mature otherwise, which was an interesting point as we often force ourselves to stifle our “childlike” joys and curiosities in order to appear more adult. the adults casually and openly explain sex and aging to the kids and they understand it as it’s only natural. however i was worried that the movie wouldn’t quite have the same nuance and would just be like “these ppl who are mentally 5 year olds just had sex!” which is really just not smth i’m interested in watching. so for those of u who have seen the movie, which one is it like? is it worth a watch?
Kinda ambiguous. They're still somewhat childlike, but there's also kind of a sense of maturity as their physical bodies age (along with the chemicals that make up our biology). So maybe they're aged but emotionally immature since their lives have been a single day, or maybe they're children who appear slightly mature because of how their bodies have altered. I think they literally ask this question at some point, but don't answer it.
I'd give it a watch, make up your own mind.
I would also argue that the symbol of the sandcastle has some irony in and of itself, since castles are usually meant to be structures that outlast not only time but any other "invasive" influences. A castle made from sand could represent the very human urge to persist and conserve while, as you mentioned so fittingly, time remains indefferent to any of these efforts
What's so frustrating about this movie is how compelling the themes are. I could see this being directed by someone like Ari Aster and being an absolute masterpiece.
Time is something I have always struggled with. I’ve always had a fear of forgetting, a fear of change, terrified of growing up. What makes it all worse is that all of my fears and time itself passing is inevitable. I have to live in the present to keep myself from wanting to go back to the past and getting depressed over the time I “lost.” I can’t look to the future cuz I’d panic over getting older. I want to make something of myself, but that is change. The only way I can not fear is if time stops… and nothing changes. But time doesn’t stop.
Dear Ryan I have a film for you
Diabolique is the name and it’s a suspense story with twists and turns and is also a horror revolving about 2 women who have close ties to a principal who plan to murder and is also an underrated film by a man who is often dubbed the French Hitchcock
Is it not Les Diaboliques? Or does it not matter which you call it?
@@lovecatxx Diabolique (1996) remake. Les Diaboliques (1955) original.
I saw this movie with my parents. I feel like it struck a chord deeper for them than it did for me.
Went to see Old in cinema with a friend, laughed our asses off
Best comedy of 2021
When finding out about my cat's cancer, well let's just say 'time' is a thorny flower in the ass right now. Hoping to keep her comfortable and well enough until the end...
Last Night in Soho started out as a 10/10, but around the 3rd act I couldn’t believe how bad it got. Interested to hear your take away from it. The big granny Tyrell reveal was so dumb to me
For me, Soho was an overall great watch, but my biggest criticism is that not enough time was spent with Ellie seeing/embracing the beauty of the 60's before its cracks started to show. I was so surprised by how fast the movie ended up going through that part. That "Alice in Wonderland" thrill should've lasted longer, with Ellie soon preferring to live Sandie's life than her own, before coming to terms with how tragically effed up it was. And after letting the movie sit with me a while, I'm kind of divided about that ending. On the one hand, I appreciate Edgar Wright going against general expectation by having Sandie survive the ordeal, and I can see how the trauma she endured would cause her to be dead-set against having men anywhere in her vicinity, but I wasn't really a fan of her essentially being revealed as a mass murderer, or her sudden decision to kill Ellie before suddenly changing her mind again. That whole part felt over-the-top & inconsistent to me.
@@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose I agree with pretty much everything you said there. I felt like they should have spent more time in the past because that was the best part. And the whole ending was such a generic cliche I truly didn’t think it would go that way. I was baffled by that decision to make her the villain. So much so that I’m not sure if I want to even rewatch it. It’s a shame because it started out so amazing
I can't wait to see every video you put out this year, Ryan!
I enjoyed the movie a lot, and the Stones reference at 4:54 made me remember another vid you made on another great movie, Fallen. I guess all Denzel had to do in Fallen was go to the beach!
Glad you got my reference haha!
I don’t really see anyone talking about it but props to you for putting yourself talking on film
The best part of OLD is the fact they mentioned a Marlon Brando and Jack Nicholson movie called Missouri Breaks.
So I just finished the film. it's probably Shyamalan's best film since Unbreakable for me. It's better from an emotional point than Split and is easily his most unique/best looking film in its entirety. I had a different theory about the eventual twist, but I don't think the actual twist killed the film. I still have to see Nightmare Alley, Last Night in Soho, Candyman, Maglignant from last year-but my current favourite horror film is Ben Wheatley's In the Earth (totally recommend)
SO pumped you covered this, Ryan!
Your analysis hit hard. Your room's warm colors complimenting your button-up hits harder
The terrifying meaning: despite an unending stream of mediocre to bad movies, MKS keeps working, somehow.
@Flora Posteschild
Good. I want to see him make more films.
@@alienboy1322 Looks like you're going to get your wish. Twist!
Glad to have this channel back tbh, the introspection that comes with it is a welcome vibe to accompany the actual content
Every video of yours I watch either leaves me with questions or answers some. It makes me think or answers something I needed answers to. I appreciate your contact, man. Keep up the amazing work.
Hey Ryan, your videos are timeless! Thank you for making them!
I’m so glad you’re giving this movie a positive review, I loved it and thought it was one of Shyamalan’s best movies. The ending was a little hokey but other wise the ride was nuts.
Totally! It’s far from perfect but I always like to focus on the positives
I maintain Night just really needs a co-writer. He is legitimately excellent director, he has some great ideas, and knows how to channel other people's great ideas. But has a tin-ear for dialogue, and all around just needs another person around to make him justify some of his choices. But I love that he takes big swings and backs himself.
I like this. Tbh, ever since I saw the movie I just kept thinking about the scene of the mom and dad on the beach struggling to communicate with each-other, but it was such an oddly bittersweet situation and moment. Everybody just kinda hated this movie but I admire it.
Very best wishes for the new year! Love your essays and it's always a treat when you upload.
Happy New Year Ryan!
As an aside, when you mentioned how you wished there were on-screen transformations of aging instead of swapping actors....I think that's the whole point. Your age catches up with you and you don't even notice it. The kids still maintained their innocence while changing bodily and they hardly seemed to notice because they live in the moment. How many of us, in our obsession with time and death, actually stopped to notice ourselves growing old? We don't. We don't until one random day, we look in the mirror and notice that extra brow wrinkle, or the jawline disappearing from sagging jowls, or the back suddenly becoming angry when we bend over.
Really like having more face time in videos! If only so we could all experience that zoom-in at 14:39 for the “HOWEVER”.
Perfect way to finish my Sunday, a Ryan Hollinger video 😊. Happy new year and Sunday, Ryan.
Indeed, it's always wonderful to see Ryan upload. Best wishes for 2022 to you too!
@@trinaq heya Trina! Totally, it just a little extra yay to a weekend. Best 2022 wishes to you too 🎉 Hope you are having a great one 😊
I dig the new style of speaker commentary. It suits your narrative elements and analysis very well. Great work my dude!
This is one of your best scripts so far. So well written, thanks.
I love the positive outlook I am left with with each and everyone of your videos.
I really glad you also analyzed the comic, it left wanting to talk and hear other talk about it after I read it
On the parents making peace before dying….the wisdom of aging is you learn life is too short to hold on to grudges.
Nice new format, dude. I love it
When it comes to directors who could’ve handled this movie better, there are so many better choices I can think of than Shyamalan.
I address that at the end! It’s got Cronenberg’s name all over it.
@@RyanHollinger When it comes to Shyamalan, I feel like he should try doing a movie without shocking twists or surprise reveals. On an unrelated note, one horror film I’ve wanted to see you review is The Devil Inside from 2012, even though it was essentially yet another generic found footage movie capitalizing on Paranormal Activity.
@@d.j.mulcahy1657 Ah yes, 2012's The Devil Inside, remembered only for its infamous ending of cutting to black just as shit got real with a website link that doesn't even exist anymore. 😆
@@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose Yup. At least films like The Blair Witch Project and Cloverfield had the decency to promote their fake websites before the movies came out. What kind of horror movie/ARG waits until after the film to actually begin promoting its website?
Edit: I have the seeking suspicion that the reason why the film just cut to black was that the studio wanted to potentially turn it into a franchise, just like Paranormal Activity.
I remember seeing the trailer in theaters and everyone was totally into it…right up until Shyamalan’s name came up on the screen. Immediate and universals groan of disappointment and then laughter.
New Year, New Horror, New Horror Simps
Great video Ryan, can't wait to see what else you have coming out this year!
The biggest thing I picked up watching this film is the characters' obsession over occupation. It was so important that they all share their occupation. And not just theirs, but others. Even when the woman with epilepsy wanted to get to her sister, she stressed, "she's a therapist" as if that's important information.
It seemed like these characters associated occupation with rationality and purpose. And the obsession over occupation is absurd when you see just how fast people come and go. No one with any occupation is escaping time better than anyone else. Not a doctor. Not a nurse. Not a rapper.
Thanks for the video!
Absolutely loving seeing your awesome shirt and face as you talk my dude! Happy New Year and first video of 2022!!
I really wanted to watch this movie myself, but due to me having way too many existential crises especially once I entered my senior year of high school and because I don’t want to relapse on it, I sadly couldn’t. However, I decided to just watch stuff like this to understand it since I think it’s a genuinely great concept.
Old really could’ve been a masterpiece. If it were made by a more competent person than M. Night, focused more on the themes, had a better ending, and maybe tone down some of the nihilism Sandcastle had, it could be on that level.
I had a lot of existential crisis when I left college and when pushing 30. Funnily enough once I was 30+ I was the happiest, most confident and content I'd ever been.
Hello again, Ryan. A great year to you!
I’m really liking this new video format!
Love your videos Ryan! Much support from here in Utah!
Cool video Ryan! I´m currently recovering from covid so it´s nice to lay down with some snacks and drinks and just enjoy a new video by you :D
I liked this flick up until the ending, not because I didn´t liked it, but because it felt too rushed. But overall the movie delivers that uncanny valley vibe
That scene of them on the beach at the end was my favorite part. It really tied into Shyamalan's themes. I just wish more of the movie was like that.
So glad you’re back, my guy 💕
I thought „Old“ was hilariously bad but more because of all the plotholes and the characters. But I do love M. Night‘s movies because even if they’re not always good, they’re always entertaining and the premise is mostly pretty unique.
Wow! A great first video of the year! I really like this format with more Ryan cam. I honestly enjoyed this video more than I enjoyed the film, but I have to admit there is something I love about the concepts. I still show people the trailer, because I love the concept. I'll definitely give the graphic novel a look. Again, great video!
Shyamalan always me the vibe of someone I would run into in a creative writing class in middle school, mature enough to want to explore the deeper and darker facets of existence but without the life experience to really present those ideas in a way that won't make his teacher giggle hysterically while grading his assignments. I think he can definitely be a bit too "up his own ass" - like when he self-inserted as a character in "Lady in the Water," in the form of a humble writer whose book is prophesized to change the world, but would lead to his death because his ideas are just SO radical.
Unpopular opinion, perhaps, but I do agree that something had to change with the ending, though I'm a bit biased as I have very little patience for navel gazing nihilism. Originally the baby survives but is left to build sandcastles alone after everyone else croaks; I could see a couple ways to approach the scene without glorifying the misery of it all, or if you were willing to embrace a little corniness you could have the child escape - anything other than pulling an "Umbrella Corporation" subplot out of your ear at the last minute.
This is one of the best channels on youtube!
I love that you talked abou the cinematography, because I loved the way this movie was shot and I didn't see a single person talking about it. Can't wait for your video on Last Night in Soho which was also my favorite of the year
just want to thank you for the time and effort you put in every video.
First video of the year and Ryan already convinced me of watching yet another film.
Great start!
Do a video exploring the trend involving small creature films such as: Critters, Gremlins etc.
Another director I've thought about helming this movie is Gasper Noe. Instead of bogging the movie down with explanations and pretention, I think he would've focused more on the sheer terror that the characters would be going through. An approach similar to Climax where the camera flows inbetween characters unable to escape the impending doom would've made for a much more frightening experience. Noe has proven himself to be capable handling softer and intelligent scenes so the film could still explore different perspectives on the situation and people contemplating their mortality. Also I think he would've handled the absurdity and taboo topics in the movie more effectively since all his movies explore such ideas
I watched old recently and I think about it a lot. I liked the exploration of time and mortality. I really enjoyed your analysis! Also I like that you included more face time in your video
I wish he hadn't added the science ending to the film. Stand-alone stories that suggest the world still holds monsters and unknown natural forces we can never control or understand or even pin down not only provide fear and deep conversations, but also lend a renewed sense of wonder and adventure to the world, like the old horror tales from the 17-1800's, or the Sci-Fi stories from the 30's through 50's.
great video! i saw that this movie didn't do well, so i enjoyed hearing your opinion on it. (also, yeah hearing that we may have to wait two years for the next season of succession is the scariest thing i've heard in a while...)
I appreciate that you took the time to analyze Shyamalan's choices. I feel like a lot of people dismiss his directing as bad because well Shyamalan, and while it's true that his stuff often doesn't work I think it's important to consider that he was trying to convey something with the e.g. the weird framing. Great video as always, looking forward to the next one!
"Time is essentially the henchman of death" is a sentence I'm going to be thinking about all night. That's fucking beautiful man.
This is a missed opportunity for a true body horror film. I’d love to see Brandon Cronenberg turn it into a surreal nightmare.
its good to see you again ryan. feels like ages that we have seen you on screen. or does it? very delightful background composition you have there. and thanks for the recommendation, its been a while since i have added a graphic novel to my collection. have to read this one. and a happy new year to you too! glad the last one is over. it can only get better from here.
What a lovely take on a film I didn't really think twice about. When the first preview showed before a movie that I was seeing with my mate I turned and said that looks very interesting just like anyone else probably did. Later on as I saw the preview open up more scenes and more of the plot points I still had just as much intrigue because it was still left pretty ambiguous. After watching the movie I realized that there were stuff that couldn't really be done in a regular setting sort of like what you remarked about in regards to how this should have been like a cronenberg or you know even loved craft or something because with it just being a literal movie seeing things that you know would only be considered just sped up in life as opposed to happening you know over time I really would have loved to see some special effects type aging if that makes sense. However I really do love the way you ended this video and regarded the sandcastle story and the picture ( movie) as one product. I'm so glad I found your channel I've been binging like crazy ☺️
Hey, your new office is looking great, Ryan!
Hi Ryan, love your videos.
I hate thinking about time, I can’t help but feel like whenever I’m not enjoying life that I’m wasting time. It’s time that I’ll never ever get back, working jobs I hate, even going to school. I play guitar and video games in my free time, but really I don’t know what I want to do with my time. But I feel suffocated by other things in life, so much so that I don’t have the energy to figure out how I want to spend my time. It’s a constant cycle