LAKERS 🗣️ THE LAKERS 🗣️ Stephen A. and Mad Dog DISAGREE over best sports franchise | First Take
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- On First Take, fans submit questions for Stephen A. Smith, Chris "Mad Dog" Russo and Kendrick Perkins to answer, including whether the Boston Celtics or the Los Angeles Lakers is the best franchise in sports history.
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"He was leaning on history." That's literally the question! The question is not hard to comprehend. History does not start after you were born. Some y'all are dummies.
White guy says Celtics. Black guy says Lakers. Shocker. 😂
Honestly that’s fair can’t even lie, but as a black dude myself it’s the lakers😂😂
I can't believe ya ll consider people colors
@@Original94 Sure you can.
@@MrOctober44 right where he been at😂😂
TL;DR
Take your “love” for Los Angeles even though you suppose to be a New York Knick out the picture then answer the question again
The Lakers are in Cancun, why bother talking about that team
bc you commented LMAO
If they were in the east, they'd win it. Celtics can't even sweep a whack Cavs team.
What you want them to talk about? The Warriors?
😂
Cry
@@WRNIIVIIII Neither 🤷🏽♂️
The Celtics integrated the sport, created the fast break and also have the most chips (tied obviously). The greatest NBA franchise.
No my lakers are the greatest franchise in nba history more retired numbers more recent championships first ever in season tournament championships and won the first ever nba finals and more nba finals appearances and a giant global fanbase also Magic Johnson is the greatest point guard ever and he saved the nba💜💛.
Lakers are the greatest they have the greatest players to ever play with the most MVP’s and finals MVP players and jerry buss greatest nba owner the list goes on and on
@@nathanielcranshaw7839 I mean congrats yall bought your teams celtics were more home grown it's two different levels.
nope not tied, the los angeles lakers have 12 chips agaisnt the celtics 17
Anything to talk about Lebron and the Lakers!
Not one time was Lebron mentioned in this. That man is clearly on your mind heavy 😂
What you want them to talk about? Steph?
😂
@@mamamia5905lol boy just looked at the title and just went straight to assumptions
@@WRNIIVIIIIor the NBA playoffs that are actually going on…? Steph didn’t even make it out the play-ins.
Why tune in then dummy lol
Celtics actually draft franchise players. The Lakers just steal them
As a lifelong Laker fan, I don't care if this is true. It's their brand. NBA is a business
Kobe and Magic? Y’all stole KG and Ray Allen lol 😂
They drafted KG and Rondo?
@@lakeshow3237 Kobe, Magic, Worthy too
@@lakeshow3237 Lakers didn't draft Kobe,, genius
Mad dog counted the times Bill beat Minneapolis Lakers but doesn't count those chips for the Lakers what goofs
😂😂😂
Bill Russell came into the league in the late 50s and was beating them in the 60s when they went into LA
All the Celtics titles against the Lakers was when they got to LA lol dumbahh
@@thegreat1885 the title in '59 was the only one against the Minneapolis Lakers
as he should, the minneapolis lakers and the los angeles lakers are two different sporting entities and should be treated as such, the los angeles lakers have 12 banners by my count.
If we're not counting Minneapolis can we discount all pre-merger titles too then?
The celtics won 11 of their titles when there was only 8 teams in the league. Lakers have 11 of there titles when there was over 23 teams in the nba and 6 of those when there was 30 teams. Celtics have won 4 since 1980.
It's just that simple
Exactly! The Celtics have underachieved big time since then and their fanbase hates to admit it. But the fax is the fax 😂 they won’t win this year either btw even with that cakewalk of a journey they’re on right now 🤨
I'm not even Lakers fan, but its quite dumb to say Celtics > Lakers.
Celtics glory is more on the past side, while in modern era Lakers are winning.
It's easily the Los Angeles Lakers lol, they have a deeper and richer history...especially when it comes to the players.
3 of the Lakers are even considered top 5 of all time(Magic, Kareem n LeBron).
Yes we gonna count the Minnesota Lakers, Lakers are Lakers, the city doesn't matter, the team didn't change just the city
Chips should stay where they're won. Teams moving, changes the fans base. Just because they kept the name, doesn't mean they should keep the chips. Might be a salty minnesotan but I don't get why you'd want to have championships from a town across the country.
Minneapolis*
@@paulrodriguez2337 that's in Minnesota
@@bobhanson1037so the warriors only have 1 ring the raiders rings in the nfl shouldn’t count the rams rings outside of LA shouldn’t count
You see how crazy that sound? You telling me if the lakers move today their history erase ? Come on now
If the Lakers aint mentioned there are no ratings
Mad dog left out the Kobe-Gasol era. Wow. Just hit me. Kobe was so great he had 2000-2004 and 2008-2012 where he was competing for titles.
Did my man forget Jerry West era for Lakers
They didn’t win anything 😂 Elgin Baylor & west Lakers always lost to the Celtics
The Celtics are Historically better. It is that simple. The wuestion is about over history more Celtics are in thr Hall of Fame including broadcasters and coaches
How is they historically better same amount of rings lakers have 6 players in the top 10 all time even if you take out wilt it’s still 5 lakers innovated the entertainment aspect of basketball the lakers won or been to the finals every decade the Celtics won once in the past 38 years
I would give it to the Pittsburgh Pirates, the way Patrick Mahomes putts the puck to Pulisic to win the Piston Cup was top teir.
Asking Perk to break the tie is kind of not fair considering the fact that he used to play for Boston & contributed to a title
Lakers are in Galveston, Texas right now.
Andrew Bynum? Really? That's one of the names Stephen A brings up? Most people watching don't remember who Andrew Bynum was, because he didn't last but maybe 10 years in the league. I think 10 is an overestimate, because I only remember about 3 or 4 years he played. He was invisible the rest of the time.
Mad Dog would have threw in some better names 😂
To be fair with him, Bynum was balling at that time. He was force on the middle but he regressed later. He was much better player than Perks at that time
But got two chips doee??
@nathannguyen1593 Does that make him some kind of legend for the Los Angeles Lakers though?
Perk fixed his mouth to say Red Auerbach was the greatest coach in NBA History like Phil Jackson doesnt exist. FOH.
It’s playoff time, Lakers are in Cancun! What is this for?!!
The Lakers are the Best Franchise in NBA History 🎉🎉
As a diehard lakers fan I agree💜💛.
The Celtics have beaten the lakers more times in the finals and have a better all-time record against the lakers.
Goodness Molly omg… that dress looking fire on her
Mad Dog forgot the West/Wilt Lakers. Also the Celtics have won 1 championship in like the last 30 something years.
Stephen A needs the Lakers on First take as I need air to breath ....sheesh
Celtics won most of their chips before colorized television 😂 . Lakers have won 11 since the 3pt line
All these great playoff series and they STILL feel the need to talk about this
Mad Dog gotta be racist. Of course he picked Boston. Lakers are globally known.
What a stupid thing to say. How do you get racism from what he said?
@@lukepittle8961 Boston fans are notoriously racist. Get a clue.
Funny how the Celtics say trash Perkins wasn’t healthy for ONE game, but Bynum who was actually 10x better then Perk missed the entire 08 series
When we when not in the playoff, all yall talk about is Laker-Laker..we are simply America team
These two guys are nuts... completely 'mad' ..yes both teams have 17 championships .. the LAKERS taking the last one.beating the Celtics in seven ... Red won 10 of those championships when there WERE no other competitors .. other teams were a joke and then the new era of NBA .. clearly the Lakers are the best team in the history of the NBA ... the great Phil Jackson has 11 rings .. one more than that dude from the Celtics .. The LAKERS gave us SHOWTIME and WILT and KAREEM and SHAQ and KOBE ... it's all Purple and gold baby!
why wouldn’t we count Minneapolis it’s the same franchise you telling me if the lakers move from LA today their previous rings shouldn’t count ?
Do the Rams ring in St. Louis not count ?
Do the Raiders Rings not count
Do the warriors rings not count they won in multiple cities
What are we talking about here
Lakers by far
After Lebron the laker franchise may be a permanent joke
BI and Lonzo injury prone self’s wasn’t gonna win anything though
@@datsapaddlin They couldn’t be anymore disappointing than this Lebron experiment.
@@Ordovician71 Yeah they could have 😂. They don’t make it past the first round the last 6 years with them dudes.
@@datsapaddlin So the same as Lebron lmaooo
@@Ordovician71 Lebron got past the first round and won a championship. You have to literally say something doesn’t count for you to have an argument lol
That was a horrible justification from SAS😂
somehow we talking about the Lakers, ;D
Mad Dogg spiting truth!
10 of the Celtics championships are in the 50s
All you have to do is look at modern nba history and if you do the lakers clear the Celtics and it’s not even close
Asking a former Celtic? 🙄
Lakers but b celts are right there
Celtics had more historic stars but Lakers is the team for sure. Lakers prolly have x4 the fans Celtics does. Lakers are the face of the NBA lol. They've had more face of the league type players too, especially modern NBA.
Theirs hardly anybody on the comment section that looks at things objectively just a lot of jabs back in forth my honest opinion both of them our what they are. The lakers vs Celtics our the greatest rivalry . We might hate each other but the respect is there
LeMickey Ring doesn't count!
Be careful, you might come up missing irl
If he lost in the finals it would have for you though 😂
Shut up, child
Whilst Celtics need a injured Heat team to win
Mad dog WAS impressive here tf
The Celtics won most of their championships before Stephen A was even born 😂. They won 4 championships since the 80s.
The Lakers won most of their championships in Minneapolis. What's your point?
@@giovannielliott5942 no they didn’t…they won 5 in Minneapolis and way more in the last 40 years where there were more than 10 teams like in the 60s.
"NBA History" History doesn't start after you were born.
@@giovannielliott5942I don’t think you can count
Celtics have won 1 title since 1986 man 😭😭😭
stephen a win cus he too cute
Celtics have won 1 championship since 1986. That’s as many as the Raptors who havent even been around for that long. 😂
Why yall talking about the Lakers as if they are relevant to literally anything. Those bums are in cancun.
You sure Cancun and not Galveston?
Well their videos get a lot of views regardless so they gonna talk about them
The Lakers are always relevant. They're the Yankees, They're Real Madrid, They're the Cowboys. The face of the league plays for them.
@@tashaem1 Lebron is the only reason anybody cares about the Lakers currently. Once he retires the Lakers will be even less relevant then they were in Randle/Russel/Young era. They aren't going to win anything for the next 20 years.
It was a fan question 😂
Aight 60’s 😂🤣😭😭😭 talking about Mickey mouse
Yankees Cowboys Lakers Celtics Canadiens Packers Cardinals Giants
Celtics clear
Montreal canadiens
Mad Dog just told Stephen A that Minneapolis rings don't count, and he agrees with the history, but started babbling that they have the same number of chips. How can you be so daft? LMAO
Lakers for sure they’re even on champs but lakers been to more finals and most of their titles are in modern era(after ABA merger). I’m pretty sure it’s 11-4 in lakers favor in titles since then. Before that there were like 8 teams in the league when Boston won majority of their titles that’s definition of Mickey Mouse
Pierce’s Celtics only one once. Why didnt MadDog mention LeBron’s Laker team?
They only won once. That's not Era
Lakers, not LA Lakers, so yes Minnesota counts. Dominance over extended period of time. Easy
The Celtics have won one championship in the last 37 years
The Celtics have only won 1 championship since I’ve been born
The lakers have won 6
Stop it Mad Dog 🙄
Molly looking ridiculousssss
So did the Lakers fall off Steven A
Yet another, and I mean ANOTHER, Laker segment.....
It’s definitely BOS
Greatest coach ? I thought his name was Phil Jackson lol come on now
Since 1970 the lakers have won 12 championships and Boston since 1970 has won 6 championships. Most of Boston’s championships (11 of them )came between 57 to 69 . So don’t tell me Boston is the greatest franchise in nba history when they have not been the best team in the modern era.
I agree, and I feel the same way about people droning on about Vince Lombardi and the Green Bay Packers back in the Stone ages. That is not modern football and who really cares about what happened back in “the old days”?
I got da Warriors as da greatest n da 21st Century!!
How when the lakers won 6 since 2000 with 3 different sets of teams
So he’s gonna count the pierce celtics who won one ring and not the Kobe pau lakers who won 2 lmao. Plus west lakers got one, lebron lakers got one. In the modern era it’s not even close, but overall it’s still lakers are better. Lakers have more hall of famers and Kobe, Shaq, bron, magic, Kareem are all considered top 10 guys. Celtics only have one player like that
Lakers!!!!!
Its the Celtics. The Lakers have won 1 championship since the Kobe era ended and have had several losing seasons since Kobe's last championship. And for Boston its impossible to compete with LA the city. All the stars wanted to go there. Both teams are historic but im taking the Cetics
I’m taking the lakers The Celtics have one championship since bird while my lakers have won more since that time💜💛.
Celtics literally have one ring since 1980?
The Celtics have won 0 championships since the Kobe era ended
@kingkyrie5140 2008. Lakers were the last of us to win one. But we're with tied at 17. Boston should have at least 19 by now but they blew too many chances in the postseason
If that’s the case don’t count the Baltimore colts championships with the Indy Colts this guy is an embarrassment
The warriors rings in Philly or Oakland shouldn’t count if that’s the case also same for the raiders and the rams
Oh yes, more B.S. sports media talking points that NOBODY asked for.
Lakerss obviously
One chip in 40 years? Let’s be real the lakers are the most dominant franchise in the history of the league the last three peat was the lakers, a chip in every decade since the 80s including this one i’m not a fan of either but it’s the lakers and its not close
The lakers won in the 70s also
SAS is the biggest joke
Ha, you know your history but apparently it doesn't matter.
The Celtics
Celtics got bill n bird lakers got kareem wilt shaq magic Kobe lebron + bill chips don’t count the way everyone else chip does cuz if that’s true bill would be considered the goat
That ring narrative started with Michael Jordan and then marketed as the best player ever. MJ took the NBA into international heights, so everything before him is ignored, and 6 rings is the standard.
11 of Boston's 17 championships predate the moon landing.. they also just have ONE championship in the last 38 years. Case closed.
Agreed! And can we give it a break with players from a zillion years ago? I don’t care who it is or what sport, whether it’s Babe Ruth or Bill Russell or Terry Bradshaw - Stop telling me about athletes from ancient history when we’re talking about greatness. None of these people could hold a candle to the athletes of today, who are the greatest in history.
The Celtics fell off for awhile is Stephan A defense huh 😂 so the Lakers with Lonzo before LeBron was good? The worst team in the league or 2nd worst 😂
Celtics never won a Mickey Mouse title, which is actually a plus for the Celtics.
What happened the last time the lakers played the Celtics in the finals the Celtics record in the NBA finals in the 2000s 1-2 which is a losing record
Only trolls online who’ve never did anything physical in life. If the players there said it was difficult, then that’s all that matters
@@martaviouspaul7117 Last time? oh yeah, the Lakers got 22 free throws in the 4th quarter of game 7. Another mickey Mouse title.
@@benkylo8015 keep crying 1 championship since the 80s 0-2 in your your last 2 championship appearances cry about it
@@benkylo8015 and enjoy your Mickey Mouse run to the finals with all the injuries in the east clown you’re embarrassing
Celtics are not going to win a title this season
Every time I see this skip bayless clone I wonder what delusional take will he have next
Warriors clear both lol just joking
My lakers are and will always be better than The Celtics bill Russell doesn’t count💜💛.
I hate the Lakers but it’s the Lakers. They’re a big market team and can get any players they want. The Lakers has a lot of great players in the past: Kareem, Magic, Shaq, Kobe, LeBron etc
As a Celtics fan, it’s the Lakers rn 6 chips since 2000 we have 1 it’s not hard peoples!! But that’s why I said RIGHT NOW!! Things can change!!
Celtics!!!!!
I personally think that Phil Jackson is the greatest coach ever.
Celtics 🔥
When the Celtics were winning my granddad was drinking from a separate water fountain 😂😂😂 good for them but I don’t look at those titles like the newer ones
Kobe and Pau who beat the Celtics and won another title. goofy
Y'all Ninja's is tripping...y'all talking about the greatest coach of all time Perkins you tripping
What y'all too drunk to mention Phil Jackson's name he won 11 chips
The last 40 years it’s been the lakers, all time u have to give the edge to the Celtics….
Why would you edge it to the Celtics all time when they have the same amount of chips