Power BI vs Tableau 🔥 5 Factors to Choose a Winner
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- Compare Power BI vs. Tableau on 5 factors • Visualization • Data Shaping • Data Modeling • Ecosystem • A Mystery Factor ???
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I agree that the learning curve for Power BI is less steep for excel users than Tableau. I also agree that Tableau visualizations are more mature; Tableau has been around longer, allowing more options and detail changes that users have thought out and requested over time. For example, Tableau has a built-in out of the box forecasting option that takes data history and applies statistically significant benchmarks to display forecasted results on line and bar charts. Power BI visualizations are not far behind. Great Vid!
Kevin Warren power bi has the forecast function too
For those of us who are not hard core data scientists, but whose companies are using both, this is an excellent, practical, and unbiased comparison of those features that mean most, particularly to beginning users. This is excellent . Thank you Avi for putting this together.
Thank You Jeff. Exactly! I was a Business Analyst for the longest of time, really a glorified Excel Jockey. But used whichever tool I needed to that came my way - SQL, Business Objects, SSRS, Tableau etc. For us it's not about the tool. It's about getting the job done.
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Great video Avi - As a data scientist I work with both tools frequently. Power BI seems to have significantly better integration with python and R than Tableau. It has a built in kernel while tableau requires that you use the kernel from your local computer. You may have made a video on this already, but I would be very interested in some content around these integrations.
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@@PowerBIPro Will do! Definitely interested to see what you have to say. I would love it if you would take a look at my channel as well; I love your content and would like to make my videos as professional and informative as yours.
Nice mate! Loved your channel. You certainly have great video presence. Power On!
I’ve got a B.I. salesclerk as a student and, when we watched this video, she has pointed out these following words:
“In my opinion both tools are really friendly to the final users. The visualization is easy to create and to understand how it was made. However, when we talk about settings and formulas, Power BI shows a difficult way to do this, while Tableau is easier, and it doesn’t demand any code line.”
Hmmm...I usually say use the tool that feels best to you. Power BI and Tableau are both great tools and part of the new generation of Self-Service BI. You really cannot go wrong with either one.
As an Excel User stepping into Power BI, I found it easier to understand the Formula Language as it;s very Excel like (SUM, AVG, MIN, MAX etc.) but of course what makes it amazing is it's incredible depth. The DAX Formula language is incredibly powerful and I have enjoyed that journey. There is a link for Tutorial below for those just getting started.
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Brilliant - absolutely agree. I am a Power BI user and sit next to a Tableau user at work. We both agree that the visualisation in Tableau is much slicker than PBI - but PBI has much better data modelling capabilities.
I'll also add another point on cost. Tableau - at least in the UK - is very expensive to buy and maintain. Power BI basically has no entry costs, you can get started on the full version of desktop for free. It's only when you start to share reports efficiently through PBI service that it starts to cost money.
Tableau is free too. But with the free version you can still save and upload charts.
This video helps me a lot. I need to know that, how can we call a Power BI desktop report with parameters using c sharp code. Everywhere, it is telling about power BI report in excel. But I need to show power BI reports dynamically using Sql Server stored procedures with parameters.
I had a couple Tableau licenses in 2009, but switched to PowerPivot when that came out. Tableau good for professional visualizations, but for business user Power BI is no brainer.
Right! I really feel Excel with Power BI inside (which is what it essentially is with the Power Pivot and Power Query add-ins - that is the same technology as Power BI desktop) - is hard to beat, isn't it. I love how Microsoft has worked extra hard to enable so many scenarios where Power BI and Excel work together.
I have used Tableau for a while. I love it but use PowerBi as I am a small business user and I can't afford the multiple Tableau licenses vs Office 365 license with PowerBI Pro.
Agreed. Tableau has some good benefits but I can't justify the additional cost that they want.
@@DirtyDiaper2010 And David Kerr - Plus, Microsoft has a dedicated team that continually updates the desktop app and service.
Any chance you might do an updated version of this topic? If I'm not mistaken, there's been a ton of growth on the PBI side, just not sure how they compare at this point. Thanks!
Power Bi really helps in data transformation and advanced calculations. I love it.
Yes! Power BI is awesome!
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I worked with tableau when it's already feature filled (till date) I've been working with PBI (almost) since the beginning and as of today, it has matured a lot and pretty much kicked tableau hard!
I say PBI is a definite winner *now* because 1. pricing models, 2. incoming modifiable visuals and themes, 3. Powerful, easy data shaping and modeling, m/dax editing, 4. monthly releases, 5. from the 3rd party visual support to the MS, they are all serious about every single issue!
I'd be happy to work with tableau again without any bias but Power BI is proving itself impressively by catching up within couple of years which took tableau almost a decade!
I think this has to be an ongoing analysis because neither specialize in any industry or function of data science yet (they pretty much present the organization of data into information but no predictive modeling - so the real analysis happens outside of these tools)...Tableau once enjoyed market domination and focused on gaining new customers as the main competitive advantage however we now see them focusing on customer retention which has revolutionized their pricing model, releases and proprietary ledges.
Hey Avi, nice vid! Is it possible to make a short comparison between Qlik Sense, Tableau and MS Power BI in 2020?
With the introduction of tableau Prep last month, I think tableau has improved its hold as the BI King.
Hey Godson! Thanks for sending that...I just checked out Tableau Prep and it looks stunning!
But I think that speaks well to the industry. Competition like that spurs innovation and is great for the customer.
I can see some features in Tableau Prep that I would love to see in Power BI - may be Microsoft Team sees it the same way, ha!
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I agree that Tableau can do some things better than Power BI. However, I don't know if it offers enough to justify the cost difference. Do you know if Tableau is considering dropping their price (in light of their competition)?
Jeff Despain
I doubt if tableau will do price reduction anytime soon.they are considered the Lexus of B Iright now.
Tableau recently changed their pricing: www.tableau.com/pricing/teams-orgs
Now cheapest for Tableau Server in organizations that have > 100 audience members ($12/month for each end user). $70/months for developers. Also, don't forget that Tableau Public is still free for uses with non-proprietary data. I love using it to analyze data around interests of mine for fun and share the interactive versions on social media.
I'm unclear on the total cost of ownership for Power BI if you use it as a presentation layer, instead of Avi's proposed approach of shaping in the MS ecosystem (though Prep or Alteryx could also do that work) and then present in Tableau. Personally, I prefer load a very granular data source into Tableau and do the vast majority of my work there, which allows me to pivot smoothly to any follow-up questions from my audience.
@@godsonchikelu6024 Agree, lexus is corolla under the fancy shell making it more expensive... 😅
Avi - I've used both tools and I agree with your comparisons. I'm still pretty new to Power BI, and I'm looking forward to exploring some of the Visuals that are available through the ecosystem.
I do have one minor nit with your video, though. When you talk about what's under the hood, it looks like you're using a picture of a classic VW Beetle, and what's under the hood is in back!
;-)
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The Visuals are great, but what I truly love is the capability to clean/shape/transform data and the magical DAX measures.
The "under the hood" stuff. Speaking of which... Ha! I suppose I used the wrong visual (classic VW). Thanks for pointing that out.
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LOL - I thought I was the only one that noticed. Even if he was using a Porsche as an example in that case, the hood would still be in the back :-)
Green Arrow is under the Hood
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Great summary! Thank you.
Hi Avil, I agree with the winner factors for PBI However, there is a limitation process high volume of data with Power BI vs Tableau: incremental load. That is a feature in the backlog, but so far you need to reload all the data (ex: 2-year sales) every time you need to add or update data in your PWI repository. IMHO it should be a factor to compare. thanks
Good news. Incremental load is now included in Power BI Premium.
1. How the data processing works in between data sources and data ware house, is there any requirements of messaging queue tools.
2. How the data processing works in between data ware house to analysis db.
3. Can we process the data directly from data sources to analysis db.
Avi, in your opinion how much do .2 and .3 you discussed matter when the person who works BI also has access to raw data in a RDBMS? Because this is my situation and I always ask myself why would I chose to do the shaping and modeling in M/DAX instead of making one(some) views in SQL with what is needed. But maybe I am missing something.
True, but dax adds up New mesures and calculations that might bring up New things.
That doesn't mean you can't recreate them in sql. I think it's à matter of what tool u're most confortable with. For preparing your data
Is it possible to do it the other way round? Access data in the tableau from Power BI?
Hey there, I try to work with both tools. My fav is pbi though. Could you perhaps make a video showing the difference regarding data modelling. I find it simple to manage relationships in pbi and to create a star scheme. In Tableau it is hard, you have to do it with joins and it is rather complicated regarding the UX.
Raymond Pocher Tableau has made this process easier with their introduction of Prep Builder. See this link for details. www.tableau.com/products/prep
Hi Avi
could you please share a video with me on qlikview vs any BI tool which one is the best in term of any kind of data visualization data modeling , security , price and all .
thanks in advance
Anand
All these Data Model features are counter-productive. So what happens when the Company was using Power Bi Data Models and later on decides to use a different platform? Data Models are best done in SQL side, not in a BI tool.
While your statement is true, one thing to consider is many companies don't want analysts poking around in SQL. My company, only the data engineers have access on the SQL side. So if I want a model on the SQL side I have to put in a request the engineering, where it'll be prioritized and likely backlogged. If I have a short turnaround on an ask, I need to be able to quickly model the data without waiting for an engineering request.
Completely agreed. In real, data should be modeled database-side. Nothing documents better than a SQL script and runs as fast. But SQL developers are more expensive.
The big problem with PowerBi are the email restrictions.
1. It won't work with gmail
2. All members on a team have to have the same email domain.
I haven't heard the same about Tableau. In fact, I've seen blogposts where people use gmail as a data source in Tableau.
As an Excel professional, I find this incredibly troubling. It'd be nice to see some sustainable workarounds for this.
You could have guest users in your domain. Check this link
docs.microsoft.com/en-us/power-bi/service-admin-azure-ad-b2b
Loved your presentation.
I worked on both Power Bi as well as Tableau, while Tableau fulfills most of the Visualization as well as reporting criteria, Power BI wins hands on just because learning curve for up-skill as developer as well user is very fair and deliver good results. Power Apps/ Ad-ons are big win too
Thanks for sharing this video really helpful for this.
With technology continually changing at a fast rate, do you feel these applications will be obsolete in the near future??
Care to revisit this since the release of Tableau Prep? Curious about your take on data shaping/modeling with Prep vs PBI
Yeah, I just responded to Godson about the same. I have to say Tableau Prep looks stunning!
Good sign for the industry - seems these two titans would certainly go back and forth and spurring innovation.
My overall take is that the industry is big enough to support multiple players. #1 or #2 is a matter of semantics. Organizations would need to evaluate what fits them best.
I tend to work with business groups who are heavy in Excel and for them, I feel Power BI is a natural choice given the multiple integration points between these (covered well in Olaf's Video czcams.com/video/Zxd0FqrZf58/video.html)
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How about Looker and Look ML? In my experience, Looker has taken a slightly different approach to data modeling.
In my view, be expert in one tool - Qlik, Tableau or Power BI. But you should be familiar with all three. If you switch jobs, you are familiar with any tool that new company is using.
But to those who are new to BI tools, my advice is to start with Power BI. Because PBI is part of office 365 and will be and is available everywhere. So high chances are you will have to use it in most of the jobs you land. Companies are not gonna buy Tableau or Qlik only because if you are expert in it or you like it.
Shoaib Ahmed Khan ABSOLUTELY AGREE my Friend!!!! That's the exact SAME thing I was thinking! I love all 3 you mentioned .... but focusing more on PBI now. Well said!
i knw only MSBI, and i want to learn other tool for job purpose. also do we have more vacancy on PBI and only MSBI is enough to get the job.please suggest.
If you start out, be expert in one tool. But as an experienced BI professional you really need to know all tools. It's easy anyway: they all use the same principles, only in a slightly different format. As an architect it would be a shame to be expert in one tool, as that is what you will converge all your projects to, even if other tools would be better for that particular case.
You can't chose an overall 'winner' as it highly depends on the situation. Still a nice comparison to watch and see someones opinion.
What do you think about IBM cognos, is it in competition to the with mentioned BI tools.
Shoaib Ahmed Khan Yeah I cannot disagree with you as a Analytics Consultant I require to know how to use multiple BI tools for the same reason as client n co will not spend 1500$ bcz you love Tableau.
Another student of mine, who is an expert with all these tools, told me these words when we watched this video:
“Your comparison about these tools is very interesting, mainly which concerns to their solidity. To use Tableau, you need a data preparation with other tool, and on Power B.I., you can use its own tool to do it all. In my opinion, Tableau is easier to use for a final user, but Power B.I. is a more complete tool.”
Andre, thanks for sharing that. Tableau has come out with the Tableau
Prep tool for Data Preparation but I was a bit underwhelmed when I tried
it. Tableau Prep is still new so I'm sure it would mature with time.
Overall,
it is the Data Prep (Query Editor) but also the Modeling Capability
(Relationships, DAX Measures) which is Power BI's strength. I do love
Tableau's Visuals (always look clean and beautiful). I do think there is
space for both in most modern organizations.
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I recently had a hard time when trying to import a multi-sheets Excel-workbook into PBI. I moved forward with Tableau Public which did the job without any hassles.
+Jerrel Ajoeb Power BI can import multiple sheets. But yes it's not always intuitive. Although overall for an Excel user like me it works great. Glad to hear you were able to do it seamlessly. It's about getting the job done, not about the tool. Happy for ya! And thanks for sharing.
That's a great explanation. Gave clarity in all the way to use the tools 😉
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the title of his Channel includs "PowerBIPro", i knew the answer before I pressed Play
the answer being...that both Power BI and Tableau are legitimate tools and you could use either?
Not just that...I think these two should work together, czcams.com/video/HLRu9N2rGeo/video.html
Nice vid! Thanks bro
Hi Omar Siddiqi.
Thank you for the compliment! Means a lot.
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Hello sir, I would like to see what are the Dax function which will allow in power bi desktop with Direct query. Please share a video
Hey Rama, does this article help?
docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/analysis-services/tabular-models/dax-formula-compatibility-in-directquery-mode-ssas-2016?view=sql-server-2017
Please do a comparison of those two again for this year. A lot has changed as Tableau has recently introduced data prep, NLP into its platform. Wonder how that changes the dynamic versus Power BI, Qlik etc.
The layout of qlik looks dated to me
Power BI still number 1
that's a great idea Guru now that we are almost in 2022
Desktop Power BI has no Print/save as option - must do print screen. Once uploaded/online you can print/save 1 page at a time to PDF or export (PBIX max 15 pages) to PowerPoint. Landscape only, PowerPoint export is graphic of Power BI "page" - quality not really to be compared with PDF. Tableau does allow export to/save as PDF.
Other than that... I "inherited" Power BI just under a month ago when another employee in our department left. Already feel comfortable designing/using the application. Have been working with Tableau well over 6 months, not as "friendly" as Power BI - IMO.
As of now, Power BI Desktop has save as and print options. Also export to PDF. It Works perfectly. However. Why on earth would you want a PDF of a report? For historical data you have your DWH, for recent and real time data you have your interactive reports on mobile, touchscreen, PC or what not, hosted in the cloud.
Excelent. Thanks
Great contents
Great vdo
Make it more
Cheer !!!
You are right! Power BI is taking a very smart path and having a very good ecosystem.
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Hi Avi, Can you make a video on Dundas BI?
I feel like Tableau is more for Business Analysts who have programming skills. Lots of scripting is required in Tableau.
Where Dundas is for all BI users, from the data preparation layer, to power users to BI consumers with NO coding required. The entire platform is employee self-serve.
Care to comment?
Great video Avi!
Thanks Anthony. I really appreciate your feedback!
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If you are a O365 or D365 user then Power BI is the way to go.
Yes indeed! In general I even say if your team is heavily using Excel, Power BI is almost a no-brainer, since it plays so well with Excel (watch Olaf Hubel from Microsoft Excel team demonstrate that czcams.com/video/Zxd0FqrZf58/video.html)
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For #2 and #3, what do you thnk of Tableau Prep?
Hello Enkhbilguun & thanks for being a subsscriber! Last I looked into Tableau Prep, it look several years behind Power Query. Power Query is mind blowingly phenomenal. Tableau Prep may get there, but it would take some time.
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Hi, i work with Microestrategy, Qlickview y PowerBi... The better PBI.
in Vizs Tableau is indeed a masterpiece, every single time I create a dashboard in Power BI all I get is sad faces, But whenever is a Tableau Viz, people get really excited, it's crazy!
I agree with your video. For me, the main point is cost. Tableau is a powerful and professional product but it is expensive, especially when you want to provide licenses for larger groups of people. PowerBI seems to be better from this point.
Yes, pricing is definitely a factor. But I envision a world where we have a mix of these tools in the same organization. Even if an organization adopts Power BI overall. But specialist analysts can still use Tableau and hopefully connect it seamlessly to Power BI data models.
very nice piece
Helllo,
Very useful video, would you compare qlik sense and power BI? I heard qlik is also very interesting tool , some says it's better than PowerBI.
You are more then 100 % correct.
Hey Prithvi, thank you :)
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Hi Avi, can Power Bi (power query) replace MS Access? I use Access alot to join several tables which also allows you to do SQL queries. I found this harder to do in PowerBi. I feel PowerQuery is quite limited in creating queries I can normally create in Access. I am told that PowerBi is Access on steriods but it seems to me that it's a bit more challenging to create complex joins in PowerBi than doing them in Access. Thanks.
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Surely the best place to build your
Data model is within your SQL server environment using both tools to only perform modelling where needed.
Power BI's biggest weakness is the distribution model. Given the difference in cost to using entirely pro licences versus a small number of these and the power bi server model, if easier for many smaller companies to go down the former route. This then runs the risk of the wider company community to develop reports of varying quality and taking control away from the central BI team, where they exist.
Gordon,
I am working with a company right now that is using Power BI but decided to still build the warehouse in SQL. But users still complain that any requested changes (new columns, new calculations) take months to be delivered. Power BI can show a way where these business users can self serve themselves. And IT is not overwhelmed by requests since they can choose to only work on the "Winners" from the Self-Service BI arena - ideas that were implemented by Business Users already and are successfully being used. Otherwise IT ends up with 1000 different things that business users tend to all but not everything gets used.
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8:15 he ends by saying "Power on my friend" I guess we now know his REAL preference! ;)
S G. Especially with his bow tie and shirt lol. He is PBI fan.
S. G. Well, it is part of his name lol
I pick Power BI as the hands down best option especially for Office 365 environments. I had been a Tableau/Alteryx admin & BI Manager for five years. When we moved over to Power BI about eight months ago, I honed my DAX skills and I could never go back to using just Tableau alone.
is alteryx any good? considering it for preparing data and presenting in Power BI.
Great comparison Avi, thanks!
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I compared 2 years ago Qlik, Power BI and Tableau. Loved Tableau intuitive and beautifull visualisations. Qlik was SOLID (not sexy), this was the one we were using in a large enterprise setup and it was great but a bit boring. Power BI ranked last, simple things like formatting numbers was not (fully) available. I did predict that with Microsofts power behind it it would leap forward. It did. I don't think that they will ever surpass Tableau on visualisation, all the other stuff ... sure, done or in progress.
Sven, good analysis. Yes, Power BI has taken such a different path even with the visualization. With Open Sourcing their SDK and essentially creating a marketplace with Custom Visuals (paid and free). They might be into something there. But yeah, each path has it's pros and cons.
I almost feel like they cater to different audiences. I talk to some Tableau users who would never even consider Power BI. Then I meet Power BI users who couldn't be happier :-)
I do feel there is space in the BI industry for both tools.
Provide the steps to get the Product Key in Tableau Desktop software
Rabindranath Ghosh You should go to this link for the updated Tableau desktop products. www.tableau.com/products/desktop
Qlik is hands down the best data prep tool ...
It would be good to do this again now that Tableau has released Tableau Prep
In case anyone is interested, the link Avi provided to the BI Across Borders Event has been updated: tdwi.org/pages/chapters/seattle/home.aspx
Thanks Jeffrey, I fixed the link in video description as well
great video...keep it up.
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If sticking to usage of Power BI report files (no cloud resources), how could you use tableau on top of them?
Fred...great question. That is currently not possible, but that's just because Microsoft has not opened that option. Technically there should not be any barrier. I hope that Microsoft is going to change that soon. So that either Cloud or On-Prem you could connect a visualization tool of your choice to the published Power BI Model.
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If you want to use Tableau on top of PowerBI, it means that you want the PowerBI data model and the Tableau visualization. You can create a powerPivot model, in Excel, which is EXACTLY the same as a PowerBI model. And you can try to plug tableau on top of the Power Pivot model. If you have SharePoint on prem you might be able to host your PowerPivot on SP and access it from Tableau.
i knw only MSBI, and i want to learn other tool for job purpose. also do we have more vacancy on PBI and only MSBI is enough to get the job.please suggest.
I will just quote from a speech from a Microsoft Executive "Power BI is and will be the center of gravity of Microsoft BI for a long long time". I really feel Power BI is a huge opportunity and anyone who works with Data/Excel/MSBI should at least learn the basics. My Step-by-Step beginners tutorial is a great way to start :-)
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Avi Singh - PowerBIPro Thank you sir
There is actually much more to add to this subject besides the fact that "Tableau Prep" is now on the market... here are a couple points missed on this, al I'm sharing is based on a POC I did comparing Tableau VS PowerBI and I received help from both companies for pricing models and troubleshoot:
1) Community: Tableau has much more years in the market, therefore the community is big, it's easy to find solutions to many problems.
2) Online help & product refinement: Tableau has the advantage, many of the key functionalities I was looking for came way after I completed after the POC.
3) Server: Tableau Server it's been in the market for a long time and it's well refined, keeps evolving, is Linux compatible (hence, cheaper to have a server).
4) Pricing server models: Tableau's server pricing models are easy to digest by non tech people, are easy to scale and keep evolving and include license for high availability and Testing.
5) Price: For tiny to medium size companies it think PowerBI wins until you need manage servers and find people with previous experience in the tool.
6) Setup: I think is much easier to start creating visualizations with Tableau, you just install the desktop app and deploy to the server (if there is one) for PowerBI is much more complicated and require more than 1 applciation.
7) Intuitiveness: Tableau is much much easier to understand for new users.
8) Official training: Both have official training but Tableau has a lot of official video tutorials, downloadable materials and easy to find the topic you are looking for.
9) Maintaining and structuring a server: Here I don't have the full picture of power BI but I remember that anyone can add a new element to a dashboard and feels a little bit "over collaborative", as a server administrator Tableau is very, very easy to find and manage all kind of objects.
10) Server and 3rd party ecosystems: Tableau as long term viz king has plenty of other 3rd party applications completely, has extensions (anyone can build extensions for Tableau) and is compatible with some ETL tools that are multi platform and is AWS friendly.
These are things that makes you think twice from the perspective of a server administrator or someone that is in charge of making this the reporting platform for a company.
+fausto huezo Thanks that's very thorough. I think i might have a different take on few of those points. But thanks for sharing such detailed assessment.
Excellent points. Video was too short.
Tableau, PowerBi, Qlik etc. the optimal choice should be made when customer situation is understood. These tools can all do the job.
I couldn't agree more. It's tempting to lead with the Technology. But that can be misleading.
If they can all do the job, then shouldn't Power BI win out due to the much lower licensing costs?
What about Spotfire vs. Power BI?
Python offers even more options for PowerBI which I prefer when I need a visualization that is not available in in the product.
To the extent that I am not a PBI guru hard for me to at this point build and such in it. Have a lot of experience using PP/PQ to build the model and then visualize in Tableau, so until PBI puts on the big boy pants like Tableau hard for me to visualize using PBI for such heavy lifting, will see where I am after the PBI course is over
Hmmm...I am of the mind that less is more.
I don't think Power BI needs to necessarily pack in more and more and more features to step up to Tableau (even if - unfortunately - that's the direction they seem to be headed).
They already have a terrific tool (Excel) - which is feature packed and customizable to Nth degree.
I usually like to wield these two visualization tool in combination. And that combo is hard to beat, IMHO :-)
Especially because it's so accessible to the business user.
I need to point to a folder as my data source. I need to auto merge all the csv files saved in that folder and Power Bi does that hassle free.
+Richard Pearce Yes indeed! That's one of my favorite features in Power BI - to get all files from a folder. This used to be so much trouble earlier.
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What about customer experience?
Power Bi wins as it provides maximum flexibility and I love Dax codes.
Hi Nazimuddin Ar.
Yes, it's a great tool. Likewise, the magic of DAX!
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I believe Power BI is generally less expensive in a Microsoft - based company.
Is there a good way to do an apples to apples comparison for running totals in certain ranges in Power BI? e.g. We startet selling in Feb 2017 until jun 2018. Now I like to see the running total in comparison to last year but only feb17 to jun 17 vs. feb18 to jun18. Thanks
Yes, check out my Ultimate Calendar Playlist.
What you describe is easy to do in combination with Ultimate Calendar Table and Time Intelligence DAX Measures.
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Many thanks for your insights Avi. I only work with Power BI. On this product I am very disappointed from a perspective of Internal Control. If you write DAX-Code for a visualization that will be periodically refreshed, on that moment a control object in Power BI is issued. First of all this means that you should be able to secure the links between all systems so you can cross check all historic data and all new data. Arguments that this should be covered in a DWH or in the sources systems are not right, because the content of the DAX-Code is leading for the control object and should be covered in Power BI Service. At this moment it just is not possible. When a change is being made in one of the sources tables that touches the content of the DAX-Code, all historic data is falling to pieces in the visualizations in Power BI Service. Second of all you should be able to start from a Business Process Management-Model (BPM) so you can align with the business. Because of the complexity of the information-chain it is very important to be able to structure the separation of powers into the entire process. Step by step two different aspects should be checked in the entire process: 1 Historic continuity 2. Formula development (from the source files to a DWH and into Power BI, data can be developed to the final specifications into Power BI). As far as I have worked with Flow, this product does not provide this functionality, which is crucial for giving assurance of the quality of the process and the information to the clients via row level security). From a technical point of view this could be solved by implementing parts of Blockchain tech in combination with a BPM into Power BI. As long as they don’t, knowledgeable controllers will reject this product because you cannot give assurance on processes from different perspectives as I have explained above.
I'm rockin' with Power Bi.
Hi Leon White.
Yes! That's the spirit!
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Good Video
I prefer Alteryx + Tableau.
I'm currently trying to learn Tableau after building awesome dashboards in Excel. Tableau isn't intuitive and there aren't a lot of CZcams videos showing you how to do stuff. Also, if you work with addresses like I do 3DMaps is awesome for applying stats to maps with no X,Y to decimal degree conversions. I just don't see the big Woop about Tableau...
Hey Jennifer, as an Excel user I took to Power BI like fish to water :-)
Although I've met Excel/Microsoft folks who first started using Tableau and then found Power BI confusing at least to begin with.
To each his own I suppose. Having multiple tools in the market competing against each other is good for us (spurs innovation etc.)
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You did not cover the most important aspect of data analytics .... which is "Data volume".....
I think Tableau gives better performance with huge data volume as compered to power BI....
Can you please comment in this regard???
I think your review lacks learning curve and market share. If i use tableau how easy will og be for me to find solutions to simmilar problems that others have already dealt with and more importantly how much time and effort do i have to put into training new employees.
The best way to get smart is to put some dumb sh*t on CZcams and wait for the smart comments to roll in. Gunson1, thanks, that is very insightful. Let me think about it...
I tried to look into Marketshare but hard to find a good report. For one, this market can be measured in so many different ways. This www.datanyze.com/market-share/business-intelligence/tableau-market-share lists Tableau Market Share as 18% and Power BI as 10%.
But then the Power BI Technology is also inside Microsoft Excel (in form of Power Pivot/ Power Query), is that being counted?
Which brings me to your second point, learning curve.
For me, this was no contest. Coming from an Excel background, I took to Power BI like fish to water. And Microsoft has kept that up. There are so many ways in which Excel + Power BI is a great story (See czcams.com/video/Zxd0FqrZf58/video.html )
My general advice for companies steeped in Microsoft Excel is to look at Power BI first.
What have you seen/experienced out there yourself?
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Avi Singh - PowerBIPro im green in the BI field so I have very little experience. I am however trying to pull the company i am working for into the 21.st century. In that regard i have come across tableu and power bi.
I now have to put together a "sales pitch" and i just know these two questions will come up since our IT strategy is to use software that is as widely used as possible in order to reduce our time to market.
How about Python vs Power Query & Power Pivot video, Avi❓🙏🙏
Will work on that. thanks for reaching out
Hi Avi sir,
Am having 2yrs exp as SQL server developer,I want learn bi tools.sql + power bi is enough to get job or need learn msbi also..pls suggest on this...
Power BI is way ahead than tableau,
1- DAX here is real super Power with DAX studio and/sql profiler.
2- every month some new updates/features.
3- complete ETL through Power query.
4- Amazing M code.
Result:. Some one can sit on this tool only and can do everything starting from the ETL to data modeling to visualization to publish.
You forgot to highlight the data security aspects.
What about it?
what is power bi tenant?
Why watch a video by LearnPowerBI.com for an "impartial" opinion?
Dang! Yes, I have that against me...but at heart I am a "Business Analyst", and I see tools (Power BI, Tableau or others) as a means to an end (getting that insight from the data). So I teach Power BI because that's the only one I'm any good at...but I believe that there is space for both these tools to work together.
See my new video czcams.com/video/HLRu9N2rGeo/video.html "Power BI vs. Tableau: How to make them work together!" and let me know what you think?
Great video.... Your video reflects Learn PowerBi.com which concludes you hightlight more about PowerBi advantages.... Sorry but you were biased.
After using Tableau and power bi to develop dashboards, I can't understand why tableau is so popular? In my work, I need to use both and I have found Power BI so much easier
Power BI has a stack of visuals like Radar and Funnel ..no need to do any calculations like in Tableau and the library is updated every month.
It syncs seamlessly with one drive and Azure so there is no need for a tableau server.
Visuals can be aligned and spread out evenly just like MS Access forms
What I like about Tableau ;
Screen resolution is better - visuals appear cleaner
Has a SQL type interface
Filters are much better
as far as data modeling.. I don't believe this should be done at the visualization phase or at least it should be kept to a minimum. If you can't write a SQL statement, you have no business in data modeling.I create views and tables at the SQL server /Oracle side- and use them to serve my visuals. The advantage here is that I can use one source of truth for both Power BI and Tableau.
I suppose the killer for me is that Power BI desktop is free .. so if you are just after a learning experience then just download it and install .however.to use from the cloud you will need to pay :-(
After all that .. true visualisation is done with Python and Jupyter Notebook .. not these mickey mouse tools .
Same here I worked with QlickView and PowerBI. Beside the ability to show different presentation options there is nothing Tableau.
Nice one!! Very inspired and I like your analogy of IOS and Android, gonna steal that for my next presentation! XDD
Ha! Yup...steal away...ideas are like lighting a candle. More we spread them the better.
I tried both. As a novice user Tableau blows Power BI out of the water. But if I learned the complicated programming stuff I might see it differently. For novice users I would only recommend Tableau as Power BI is way to complicated to get into and too expensive for basic functions you would want to have while Tableau is still free.
Hey Jurij,
Yes, for the visualization side Tableau does feel easy to start. It's very well designed.
For the heavier lifting - cleaning your data, defining calculations/KPIs I prefer Power BI.
Do tell me more about your comment on Tableau being free and Power BI being expensive though?!
The way I see it - Power BI Desktop is completely free download with no restrictions and your data stays completely private.
The only free option Tableau has is the Tableau Public but that has sever restrictions
- Data sources you can connect to
- Number of Data Rows you can bring in
- Makes your Dataset Public and Accessible to Everyone in the World
Here's the quote from the Tableau Public page
"You should not publish confidential data that you want to keep private,
like your company’s sales plan or your personal financial information.
Once it is posted you should expect that data to be no longer private."
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For me one is free and the other is not. Because as a novice user I want to use it like Google Docs and share my stuff online. When I used Power BI all the sharing options I had in the free version of Tableau were only available in a paid version of Power BI. But it all depends on use. I think that if I worked for some company then not being able to upload charts online and share them easily wouldn't be a problem at all. As it is Power BI is just not for a novice user with my needs.
So I, and most people I think, would say: For novice users Tableau is recommended. Once you learn some complicated calculations and programming you can pick and choose and maybe even go open source or some much more complicated software.
How do you blend data in PowerBI? I have a many-to-many situation that PowerBI won't join.
You need to create a dummy column to do the join , if it does not exist already
Imo, Business Objects is superior to both those products. More robust, intuitive and user friendly..
+Guy Conklin thanks for your feedback. Yes, in some way the best tool is the one that works for you. I'm head over heels in love with Power BI. I do respect Tableau though and can see where Business Objects would also have its place.
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Hi there, your answers tend to be a tad bit biased. But good info overall.
I support with power-bi
Subu! What's your favorite feature of Power BI? Why do you support it? Would love to know. Power On!
Still cannot understand why you brought here Tableau :) yellow colour and "power on" :) this is 2018??? :)
Hey Adrian, so which one is your favorite tool? What stage is your organization in when it comes to adopting Self-Service BI?
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You are comparing apples and bananas on items 2 3 and 4...
Great high-level comparison! We've been doing our own comparison based on our client base (czcams.com/play/PLaBXHxGryzNOBGtna4GfFa3jTZR2IEmcK.html). We agree with your point #1 since Tableau continues to spend a ton of research to make their UI intuitive to regular business users (they research extensively before deciding to incorporate a new feature, and then they research and experiment extensively again where and how to make that feature available - bottom line, it's a sleek and ease-to-use UI). Your points #2 and 3 aren't very relevant in our client base since most of the data preparation is done with data warehousing. We diverge a bit with your #4 because we think that both products have pros and cons and it's a wash in the near future. However, we agree that PBI is becoming more well integrated with the Microsoft ecosystem and we expect it to have a definite edge for those heavily invested in the Microsoft stack. Finally, yes to #5 - that's why we support both products! Great job!
It’s definitely one or the other.
All my friends describe Power BI as Powerless BI :)
Qlik sense > Tableau + Power BI
DESIGN is not about the looks, it's about the experience. The Associative experience of Qlik makes user explore data and do business discovery at the speed of thought.
A business user starts loving Qlik after few clicks.
You fall in love at first sight.
What if we were able to disconnect the "Visualization" tool with the Data Modeling tool. Let's get the freedom to build our data model in the tools we like - Excel (Yes, the modern Excel packs a punch), Power BI or one of the Enterprise Level Options...
And then let users choose the visualization tool that works best. It could be Excel, Power BI, Tableau, Qliksense or any of the other tools.
I used to use Qlik in my last job but I am using Power BI now too in my current job.
For a beginner, yes it's easy to transform data in excel but the transformation options are limited. You can do magics in terms of ETL with Qlik or maybe Power BI ( i am not expert in PBI). What about transforming data involving more than 2 million rows? Here the excel starts suffering specially if there are sumifs and all.
Power Query is very good for beginners - all options you can see in the ribbon.
But when it comes to advance transformations, Qlik Scripting is very mature. Also you can load huge data very fast with QVDs. Like two million rows from Qvd takes only couple of seconds to load.
and obviously we still use excel too, part and parcel of life :)
Data modeling in Excel? Ha, no thanks. We can do all of this in one product, which by the way is spelled "Qlik Sense". It is so much more than a "visualization" tool as you say. Happy to demo it for you if you'd like. :)
Agree with this, qlik (view and sense) far superior.