7 things I dislike about my Id.3 (Update 21 months later)
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
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01:21 Many times at the workshop
02:11 So many things to do for driving
03:51 Ignition off when out of the seat
04:18 Unreliable App
05:08 Not illuminated buttons
05:30 Brake feel
06:09 Charging power in km/min
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Great video Chris! You have really evolved as a content creator. Keep up the good work.
I hope that VW fixes these annoying issues because the ID.3 has a lot of positive aspects: quiet comfortable ride and stable at speed. Compact external dimensions yet spacious interior. Overall it is a practical hatchback. ☮️
A rework in a few years with LFP batteries a better interior with better buttons, flappy paddle regen and further software improvements would be nice
@@Lewis_Standing VW wants to bring back buttons and they want to use LFP batteries.
@@Lewis_Standing Which will kill the prices of the old and inferior versions even more... yaaaaay. ;(
@@marcradermacher6244 are VW EV resale values not good?
Obviously Tesla's are doing well. My Hyundai ain't bad, only 5k depreciation predicted for 3 years and 30k miles.
I'm in the UK (Cornwall - very popular with German tourists!) I got fed up with waiting for the ID.3 to come out as my Bluemotion Polo had reached 150,000 miles and needed replacing. So I bought an eGolf. Wonderful decision. It lacks all the annoying features that Chris doesn't like because it's a more simple car. It has adaptive cruise control which is absolutely wonderful - I use it all the time. I don't mind clicking twice to get to B mode - why would anyone want anything else? It has no lane assist I'm pleased to say, having driven hire cars with this feature, not good on our narrow country roads. I've only charged it at home using a standard wall outlet in my garage, overnight once a week suits me well. I don't care that it only tells me the added range - I have a smart electricity meter that tells me how many KwH it's taken.
Oh, and the Mk 8 Golf (which is what this is) is a sublime car to drive. Friends who have bought ID.3 tell me they'd prefer to have a eGolf (but of course they stopped making them). Now the indicator really is that the second-hand price of an eGolf is really high, not that I am planning to sell it. I've had it 3 years now and the ONLY thing it's had are new front tyres (downside of electric front wheel drive is wheelspin if you're not careful) and its annual inspection .NOTHING ELSE. Amazing!
Ben
Thanks Chris for the honest feedback. Not many people have done this on The Tube 😊
Most professional video I’ve see you produce… Great editing, awesome drone shots 👌☺
Nice follow up video. I like the drone shots, music, and animation. It was interesting to see what changes happened since you got the car. Cool!
I love these overviews. And the video producing / editing is top notch 👍 Ha ha O love when the your car in the photage is driving backwards (reversing) when you are commenting on something 😅
Hi, Followed from day one, always a joy to watch your reports as I had the first edition + from Sept. 2020. But finally the interior quality and software issues together with 12v battery failing got to me. I have now sold it for more money than it cost me new and gone Audi Q3 phev. Will still follow you with interest.
Agree with all of your points, I own a 2021 Tour in the same colour as yours. I drive exclusively in B mode, I find it helps a bit with the braking.
Hi Chris, really value your opinions. We had the exact issue with rear offside brake drum getting extremely hotonbout id3 pro. We were on a road trip to Scotland and had recovery out to clean and check. As you say, thousands of miles since no probs. Keep the vids coming, thanks from the UK!
Yes, since January 2021 no problems
I had the exact same issue too - offside rear brake got really hot on both legs of a return journey of about 80 miles each way - it smelt of burning and the wheel got very warm to touch. Recovered to a dealer the next day, and after 2 days they could find no issue. Been running another month or so with no reoccurrence 🤷🏻♂️
Great video, as usuall. I have had my ID.4 1:st for 18 month now and I totally agree with you. VW have a lot to do with the software. So much to do that I don’t think they will fix all issues or add feature untill my 36 month lease is over. I will certainly look for another brand.
The things i dislike the most are:
- The navigation system. I don't like the UI, the EV specific things aren't integrated at all and the charging stations are not more than POIs in other systems.
- The fact, that i don't has preconditioning before fastcharging.
- Also the not illuminated buttons.
- The few features of the app (at least it is reliable now most of the time).
- The glossy plastic around the displays.
- The fact, that you are waiting way too long for updates.
good video
Great intro, keep up the good work! By the way, are you not bothered by the haptic feedback buttons on the steering wheel?
Thanks. No, I have no problem with the buttons.
Good video. Have you noticed any difference in battery heating with 3.0? I remember one of your videos you mentioned that in cold conditions battery heater is very violent and on short trips drain the battery.
Battery heater is changed with 2.4. I made a video about it.
The ignition off when you go out of the car is most annoying when you left people in the car. For instance, all your family in the car, you stop to buy bread in the supermarket, you go out and air conditioner (we are in Greece, this is important) and kids music (streamed from my wife's phone, not mine!) is off. Yes, you can turn on back with the on/off button but what the heck??? Why they did not make a delay at least for 30 seconds (variable is a rocket science for VW i suppose)?
I have the ID.4 GTX. Same annoying things and some more.
Pretty strange that Volkswagen creates annoying software instead of a smart one.
They could have had a look at BMW, Tesla, etc.
But no, they prefered to let the engineers create a very special user interface where I think nobody can be really get happy with.
But the car is great.
So Volkswagen: Why? Do you need help?
I read VW new CEO will bring back buttons on steering wheel and on center screen/climate (not clear which). Maybe software will also remember driver preferences for climate and driving mode?
Drive Mode is remembered in my car
I would never buy a car without physical buttons on the steering wheel. Physical buttons can always be found without looking & with gloves on.
It seems VW is way out of touch with it's customer base. Most people will agree with the issues you point out - but it will never be fixed, because VW does not have this focus? I've changed to a competitor and NOTHING bothers me there. So glad you mention the annoyances, and I hope they listen inside their "supertanker". It must be hard being so honest?
Hay Chris.
You live in Passau?
My wife and I came to Bavaria this summer with a BMW i3S. Our daughter is studying in Regensburg and we have visited several places and cities in beautiful Bavaria, including Passau. Greetings.
Hi Chris, could you tell me about OBD11 using the port.
How did you get this please?
My 2017 e-Golf has similar climate issues: it will remember climate settings for about 10 minutes after car shut off but then resets back to Auto. At least all controls are buttons so easy to turn off climate and turn on heated seat. Also, I am happy with Auto airflow so if I leave it in Auto, that’s fine, too.
I almost always drive in Eco mode and that setting is forgotten the same time the climate setting is forgotten.
I also have a driver profile which seems to do nothing. 😊
Overall, the car is very good and it now has over 47,000 miles of very cheap and fun driving.
I would have loved the eGolf, but it really does have a ridiculous battery size. It is sad that a good travel car, the Golf, is stuck in cities because of this
@@arthemis1039 It is a compliance car in the USA, at least, so VW did the best it could to stuff cells into the mostly ICE chassis, and left out liquid thermal management for the battery. I routinely take it on 100 mile trips and annually on a 500 mile round trip journey, but that is not enough for many.
This is my worry with the ID.4 that is arriving in Australia in 2023 well can order in late 2023 for 2024 delivery but what software will it have and will the App be any better which doesn't sound like it will. VW is just like a huge government agency with too many committees and red-tape to action things fast enough.
Hi Chris. Do you have any info about the software 3.1 release date? When will be available to download?
No, I guess spring next year.
I don't understand why so many settings in so many cars aren't "sticky". Asian cars seem to be the worst in that regard, but the Germans aren't great either. As for different users, Mercedes has different profiles as well, but the screen to select which one goes away after a few seconds at least. But even there they've missed a few tricks: Climate and mirror/seat settings aren't coupled to the user, and the profiles aren't coupled to the different keys. If it's my key starting the car, then the damn thing should be able to figure out that I'm going to want my profile and not my wife's!
What app do you use for the obdII, we'd love to have the same functionality (or have you done a video on it?)
Obd eleven. Video link was in the video right top corner as a video Tag.
Ah sorry didn't see the video link, thank you - oops. 😁
Even if i drive an ID.4 in Canada since 2021, i have pretty much the same annoyances claim. OBD 11 solved the most painful one; lane assist! The second one is clearly those non backlit buttons! What a stupid choice.
Sorry to hear of all the ongoing problems - with Tesla announcing large price reductions across the board - what are the prospects for the ID.3 and ID.4? Suddenly the UK ID.4 configurator is looking expensive.... and why still no 4 year warranty as standard?!
Thanks for sharing Chris, they tend too overthink what customers want. However they should have taken more from the BMW i3 or even Tesla. But I think they are flawed with the 'not invented here' syndrom. Sometimes it's way better to copy ideas from other manufacturers then trying it yourself but in a less positive way. I think the UI is still worse than an 2013 i3. That's 9 years ago...
I´m curious of the Mark 2 ID3 that is apparently coming not before long. How many of your items will they have fixed? And will they keep the buttons that nobody like?
Nothing will be fixed. I made a video about it.
Good video. My Cupra Born has similar annoying things. Why can't the car remember you selected Range driving mode as it always defaults to Normal ? Like in your car why can't you configure the driver profile with your personal settings for climate and drive mode so they change when you select OK ? Also sometimes my infotainment screen locks up for instance if I am in the car charging then unlock the car to remove the charging cable which ever screen is on stays on and I can't select home screen until OI get out the car and then get back in.
My id.3 remembers the drive mode. always.
@@BatteryLife Wonder why my Cupra doesn't ?
Hi Chris, das exakte Problem mit der Trommelbremse (bei mir nur hinten Rechts) ist in meinem Fall vor einigen Tagen auch einmalig aufgetreten. Wurde bei dir seitdem etwas gefunden oder getan? VW sagt, wenn das Problem nicht mehr auftritt, ist alles in Ordnung
Nein, war nur einmal. Dich könnte mein deutscher Kanal @batterylifede interessieren ;)
Agree with everything in your list. But my biggest issues are not anything to do with the EV side of it. Did no one think to sit in a mock-up before they signed off the design? The windscreen pillars seem designed especially to block the view at roundabouts and junctions. Lethal. And why are the reading lights (near the rear view mirror) lit up at night. They're distracting because they're too bright. And the light bar across the dashboard that reflects in the side mirrors just where the wing mirrors are so it looks like there are lights in the mirrors all the time.
I also find managing charging overly complicated. I want to charge during the cheap period, but it seems all I can do is set a departure time. I want the charging time to finish at 5.30am. I want the car warm and defrosted at 8am. I don't seem to be able to achieve both. And changing the charge limit in the app doesn't seem to override the limit set in the car.
For context, this is my second EV (and I have complaints about that too). These are things that I think are basics.
I ordered this car because it was available within a month whereas it was over a year for my first choice - probably a Hyundai or Kia. I feel really ungrateful complaining about a brand new expensive (not in the scheme of EVs, but £36k is a lot of money) and it's more than adequate transport, but there are things that aren't down to price; they're just not good enough design.
Hi Chris, you said you turned off your lane assist. How??? This annoys me too.
It is in the video, even a infotag on the top right to the video where I did it.
Did they fix the lighting of the climate controls in newer cars yet?
No, not a fix, they want it that way.
@@BatteryLife yeah, but only because it's cheap! The next generation of European EVs will be interesting, when they've got the economies of scale and the manufacturing experience in place that might give them enough breathing room to put some of these basic features back in. I think the MEB cars now are built on such a tight budget that they had to cut a lot of essential things like illuminated controls, even knowing that it was a terrible idea. Maybe the facelift will get spotlight from the ceiling for those...
@@krugerdave I think it was an oversight, but it can't be easily corrected as we might think. We will see if they do a refresh whether they are able to fix this.
what obd / app do you have for the id3?
Thanks
obd eleven
@@BatteryLife ultimate version? :P
For me it's #3, #3 and #3. Nothing else. Everything turning off the picosecond I get up from the seat (or after 30 mins in stand-still) is super-annoying.
how did you use the free data i listen to internet radio when driving will this use data
I orderdd it and used it for my phone, tethering. Yes, internet radio uses that data
I'm annoyed that I can't change or (de)activate the seat or steering wheel heater by voice command. Did it change by software 3.0?
Yes, you can! Since always
@@BatteryLife When I order the car to change the temperature it always reply: "Klimafunktionen werden nicht unterstützt" :-/
@@BatteryLife Voice commands for climate works only in some trims. Not sure which one. At least not in mine.
I think you was much more at the Workshop. What about the empty 12V battery and the electronic circuit
Not since the dislike video. This was all before that. Since January 2021 only twice
I heard that there isnt any window controls on the id4 doors ? I hope thats not true. Hows the id3?
yes there is. but not extra for the rear on the drivers site. You have press an extra button to control the rear windows.
@@BatteryLife thanks. Seems pretty weird even for german engineers. 😃
I love this feature! I constantly press the wrong button in my other half’s Focus and end up lowering the rear windows, so I’m happy there’s no buttons 😂
Going for MG4. Much better VFM
Maybe the next car will be a facelifted id3? I heard they are coming 2023.
Maybe
@@BatteryLife And by the way, thanks. This video is great when you are thinking of buying a used id3!
Still waiting for 3.0 after 2.4 installed 3 months ago. Lane assist comes back on while driving. Why???? Since 2.4 upgrade, Sun-blind won’t open/ close without keeping finger on the slider, Location settings disappear after 24 hours so can’t use scheduled charging. App is useless, could be so much more. Agree about the brakes.
Mine works, sorry
And the scheduled charging, doesn't works unless you have the 3.0.......
True, but I don't need it.
Havn't seen a single ID Buzz video (with 3.2 software) where they have to confirm the user, so hopefully that's going away.
I drove it for a day. Had to click it every time.
@@BatteryLife Damn...
One thing that annoys me is that if I turn on the climate in the app before driving home on a cold day, then arrive home within half an hour, park and lock the car, it turns the climate off but then immediately turns it on again. I have to pick up the phone to turn it off in the app. Is there some simple way to make it not do that?
No. App climate means 30 min climate. I like it.
You can actually set a "climate now" shortcut in the drop down menu and you can turn the preheating off by pressing that shortcut button when you enter the car for example. That's the only way to turn off preheating from the car
Gratulation? You got 3.0?
No
@@BatteryLife 😂 Of course not. 🙈
I don't understand why they sell the ID3 in the US? To many expensive EVs out there.
When does Walter go bye bye?
Sept 2023
Ignition, lol, that is a combustion engine terminology.
How do you call it?
@@BatteryLife "Ready state" or similar.
@@BatteryLife On/off button :p
“ignition”? What is there to ignite?
How do you call it? Turning it on?
In an ice car, ignition on also does not ignite yet. It is the thing before 😉
@@BatteryLife starting it
got to drive one a few months ago, was not very impressed
Whose got a drone 😃
I use it in every video. I live it
@@BatteryLife It's great! You always check the flight restrictions, your permissions, other's privacy etc.?
for me Vw has kind of lost the plot and its hurting sales globally, with the Id issues such as having no proper driver screen , a 30 year throw back where only front windows switches , terrible design for RHD (using a typical french method with next to no glove box), only available with a dark interior, its that reason alone I still like the golf over the id, none of these features have been fixed the seat borne. and more importantly even though it is hated my many vw are still replicating the same infotainment setup on all id brands, energy usage is still super high at motorway or short journeys, things finally slightly improved but why can't the scheduled departure time precondition the battery why its still not plugged in is beyond me
finally battery tech and life isn't as good as other brands, we still don't have a vw answer for a GTI equivalent, its self a really easy fix, the pack volatage is lower and limited to sub 130kwh this may have been ok 4 years ago but now both tesla and multiple korean brands have cracked rapid charging to a point were petrol heads can be happy,
final bug bear range, vw quote a full charge but when you get it they tell you to only charge to 80%, this takes a plus 200 mile real well range bellow the acceptable level especially if your an autobann or motorway muncher.
First? Ouuu yeeeeeah! ;)
Number 3 is stupidly annoying
The online mode question is so annoying each time... Really annoying. VW please change that please please
It's replaced by the profiles in 3.0.
The reasons I didn’t buy the id3 after test-driving it are the drum brakes (in the 21st century sand st this price point!) and the shitty plastic interior. I liked the drive, so I may get a Cupra instead.
You will still have drum brakes in the cupra. It's standard on the MEB platform
@@francisreed452 At least it doesn't look so bad inside, I must confess I intend to spend more time sitting in front than checking the rear wheels.
Thumps down because the seven jingles are to loooong.
Then film and edit it yourself!
@@BatteryLife Perhaps I was unclear. The content of the video was good, you are so nice to listen to! It was just the jingle itself I found to be to long.
Do you ever think cars have become unnecessarily complicated? So much that can go wrong and fail/break. Having to faff about with the climate controls through the screen each time is just ridiculous.
No, that is the fun. Just driving would get boring quick.
Too expensive, too big….
Too big? You want a smart 😉
I got tired of the software and the fact I won't be getting auto parking and other features because I bought it like 2 months too early to have the hardware.
Tesla still updates 2017 cars with new hardware if they have bought the autopilot.
Also I don't trust they'll do any better in the future, I had some faith in Diess but they kicked him out so no more VW EVs, I'm selling mine and I buy a Tesla.
POA music
A Tesla Model 3 might be better.
Not for me. Too sporty of a ride. Not my style of steering.
Biggest dislike for me is.....its electric.🤮
Most stupid comment possible. Thank for you nothing.
@@dogothedogo Ooo blimey bit of a exaggeration, dog. Don't get your knickers in a twist. 😘