Should The U.S. Ban TikTok?
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
- As Congress contemplates barring Americans from using TikTok, fans of the app are calling their representatives in droves, and Donald Trump can’t decide which side he’s on.
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It might surprise you to learn that last year Brazil’s congress was voting to pass into law that for a platform to operate there it would have to reveal how its algorithm curates content for its users and the next day Google’s home page had a message telling its Brazilian users that the law was going to take away their freedoms and for them to contact their representatives. I wonder what country runs that company? 🤔
It is simply amazing how fast Congress can move on this issue when they refuse to move on much much more important things.
Agreed! Let's ban Federal politicians from the stock market, ban AIPAC, ETC ETC
Now the republicans have at least one thing to run on.
u realize this is more important than hamas
They moved fast on this becauss the threat tiktok poses israel. It's the main platform that's pushing the agenda of the palestinians which is detrimental to israel's legitimacy
@@1saamor897 just wow, i dont know what to say... so a mindless entertainment app is worse than the killing of thousands of people. my friend whats your logic? now if youre a sociopath i would understand lmao
The Chinese government doesn’t need TikTok. They can simply buy this information from Facebook and other data brokers.😂
Nobody is posting plans of the F-35 on Facebook or TikTok
@@alexshi9320only in war thunder forum 😂
China really need Tiktok to control your mind.
As a boomer, my question with selling tiktok is how does that guarantee that the new owners wouldn't also sell information? Isn't that exactly what Facebook and Twitter did/does?
Well FB yes along with other things. But twitter... some lunatic bought it and decided to turn it in to a 50 billion dollar ant farm full of memes so people would think he was cool.
and Tik tok would probably not sell at all because odds are that active manipulation is not happening but ... china would probably not let them sell without a backdoor. the data may be tooo enticing. this is a game of chicken between two superpowers. and it is very stupid. god this is so stupid on so many levels.
I assume the government would try to place a puppet like we always do- it's in our blood.
Exactly. Just google Zuckerberg sells user data and you'll see the chinese government doesn't need tik tok to get your info. The US lawmakers are just mad that they can't control the narrative and that people are seeing the horrors we are funding in the middle east and they don't want young people to know that American exceptionalism is a lie.
It's an easy answer. As a boomer, you may excuse yourself monitoring your kids; you cannot excuse your neighbor let alone someone with conflict of interest monitoring your kids.
Because selling data is not the issue. The Chinese government has a law that says Chinese companies (like Bytedance, the company which owns Tik Tok) must share data upon request. Hope this clears things up for you.
The US should not ban TikTok, but they should severely restrict the data mining all social media platforms abuse.
That's reasonable, makes total logic
But if they did that, then how would the US government mine all that data?
Can't prevent data mining on foreign platforms China's outside the EU and US
They can't restrict it on tiktok since it is owned by CCP
I suspended FB bc I was getting comments from peeps in China. 😮
17 times in the last 5 years I've been involved in class action lawsuits about my data being stolen. Not a single one was tiktok. It was Twitter and Meta. I hope this was worth it Steve.
It's ok it's our guys doing it so no problem
you are not gonna know if tiktoc stole it because ccp is not gonna let you know
@@chromewarnock9681 could you please use your brain to do a research before you say something? Tiktok American store ALL DATA IN AMERICA HOMESOIL, OK?
@chromewarnock9681
you don't know china do it or not. so you think they maybe criminal.
you know America but its all righr because freedom!!!!!
@@chromewarnock9681metadata
Welcome to America, the land of the “free” !
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lol they banned a toxic app so what life goes on
@@rochekalifa2074 then ban on the terms of it being toxic, oh wait.
You're literally demanding to let China know you better than you know yourself.
@@ivdg46e dont be self-sentimental，you are not important for them😂
There are more important things for Congress to do than this.
Because Meta and Twitter don’t spy on us?
They pay they money though which TikTok apparently isn't.
Meta and twitter(X) sells their data to US government. Tiktok does to Chinese government. so there is some differences..?!?
ban those too..
That's different. That's 'merica spying on everyone!
They are banned in China, remember
The only thing we can get a bipartisan agreement on is this…? What a joke. 🤦🏼♀️
I'm guessing because digital security is quite obvious for both sides.
@@user-uo9eq9fj1l ‘digital security’ while acquiescing on the evil behavior of meta, twitter, google, etc
@@user-uo9eq9fj1l Election results are pretty obvious too ...
@@user-uo9eq9fj1l wait, you're saying that digital security, something that's pretty complicated is ''obvious'' to ''both sides'' of Americans meanwhile, both presidents are getting yelled at for taking top secret documents home and showing them around?! xD
Oh God
Are you American? Be honest!
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Oh please this has nothing you do with security. Our representatives deserve every single uncomfortable call
In what way do you think this is a malicious move?
US is worried China is doing with TikTok what we do with Google, Facebook, Twitter, and every other website that contains ads....
China is a hostile foreign power.
China does not allow American social media on their platforms why should we open our doors to them?
The monetizing of the data, while scummy, isn't the main issue here. It's everything else the Chinese gov't can and will do with the data. Just one example is take what Russia did in 2016 and make it so much worse as they would own the means rather than just subverting it like Russia did Facebook.
@@brianwilliams766 they can do the same with Facebook more easily, this is just racism and the American imperial impulse to never compete fairly, especially with non-white people. In 2016, the whole thing was done by BRITISH company, Cambridige Analytica. Also since there is a huge overlap between people who hate immigrants and who hate TikTok for the reason you said, do you think immigrant software developers would still want to come or stay here if they had home-grown companies as big as Google and Facebook?
@@brianwilliams7661.) It’s not owned by China. The man is from Singapore. 2.) You act like all the other platforms to sell to other countries worldwide. 3.) The Twitter Files should’ve opened your eyes to what and how the government expects Social Media platforms to behave 4.) When both parties agree on something, the people should oppose it wholeheartedly. They don’t have our privacy or best interests in mind
I’m old enough to remember when they tried to ban rock and roll as a threat to national security.
And there were record burnings at local churches.
Yeah, but records weren't able to spy on you while instantaneously transmitting what they see back. They also weren't made by a foreign government that has stated intent to harm you
Are you really comparing a video platform to a whole ass music genre?
That was clearly dumb. Also, rock and roll isn't owned by the Chinese government. Tiktok is.
@@c0mpu73rguy No, Einstein. The OP is stating a sad fact of "conservative" mindthought.
“Hey congress, can we have affordable healthcare?
“Nope, but we’ll ban your favorite video app though! Is that good enough?”
As much as I hate TikTok, it is still stupid they can’t lower down healthcare OR anything relating to taxes
mental health will be better, just you wait!
@@colingraham1585not really. a lot of people make money from tiktok and if the us bans
it, their taking away someone’s
main source of income
@@colingraham1585lmfao cause mental health was so great before TikTok right? Hahahaaaaa
Banning TikTok is a form of healthcare. Think about how much bs gets spread through TikTok, for example the “trans” trend. Began with TikTok. Everything and anything stupid that people do, ultimately comes from this app.
I wish people could get as motivated to call representatives and congress members about issues like climate change, sexual rights, and gun violence as they are about TikTok. I'm a millennial and I think a lot of my peers have lost track of where their priorities should be. I absolutely don't think TikTok should be banned, but I hope this stimulates those who are calling about the bill to call about more critical topics too.
作为一个中国人，我不理解那种担心中国共产党利用TikTok危害美国的逻辑是如何成立的，为什么认为只有TikTok能做到这样的事，其他的app也可以盗取个人信息。
Hmm. Hadn't thought of that, maybe this situation could at least have one tiny good thing to come out of it. People getting more involved in politics.
Could you start regulating US American freaking social media corporations too??
Depends on who is "you." If it's China, yes, they already did. Think.
No interest in doing that, and the US would probably put up a fight if the EU wanted to regulate Instagram or Facebook. :) Yeah, it's hypocrisy'
Ultimately this campaign would look no different if TikTok were a French platform. The point where the butt hurts is that it's not American and still globally used.
No they sell personnel data to US government agencies and it is ok
@@bhcbhc so if the “you” is USA, the answer is no. At least China regulates all social media regardless of nationality of owners, unlike the US, who targets Chinese and Russians only. Think.
Come on. American government won't hurt you, would they?
It's such a crap because Google, Facebook, Amazon all collect our data and how many times have you talked about something and suddenly you have ads for it across all your platforms?
The difference is Google, Facebook, and Amazon aren't under direct control of a foreign government with adversarial intent.
American companies vs the Chinese communist party. Every company that is in China is owned by the Government.
Well if we're being honest that's the US government collecting the data of its citizens. Not the Chinese government...who's landmark goal is to bump the United States out of the it's number 1 country in the world status. It's very political.
ill be honest with you, the "data security" is just the legal pathway theyre taking here. In reality propaganda is the primary concern.
You SHOULD be concerned about the propaganda the app could and does allow
And considering tiktoks response was a notification that got a bunch of braindead app users to call congress without a legitimate reason...it should be banned.
They're not obligated to cooperate with the Chinese Government.
Why not vote on a minimum wage increase? Just my thought!!
a word is called imported inflation，it means the price will increase with the human resource cost increase，your salary is more than before but the object is also more expensive than before，if your hope is improve your life，the secret is decrease the price of object ，such as tariff reduction，or use the oil from cheap regions.
Parque no Los Dos
@@user-wp2gb9rz4k While it's true that increasing the minimum wage can potentially lead to higher costs for businesses, it's important to consider the broader context. Importantly, the relationship between minimum wage increases and inflation is not as direct as some may suggest.
Firstly, modest increases in the minimum wage often have minimal effects on overall inflation. The impact of wage increases on prices depends on a variety of factors, including the elasticity of demand for goods and services, the competitive structure of markets, and the ability of businesses to absorb higher labor costs through increased productivity or adjustments in other areas.
Secondly, it's crucial to recognize the significant benefits that increasing the minimum wage can bring to workers and the economy as a whole. Higher wages can reduce income inequality, lift people out of poverty, stimulate consumer spending, and improve overall economic growth. Moreover, when low-wage workers have more purchasing power, they can contribute to increased demand for goods and services, which can potentially offset any upward pressure on prices.
Lastly, addressing inflation requires a multifaceted approach that goes beyond simply controlling labor costs. Measures such as tariff reduction and efficient use of resources can certainly play a role, but they are just one part of the larger economic puzzle. Ultimately, policies aimed at balancing the needs of workers and businesses while promoting overall economic stability are key to achieving sustainable growth and prosperity for all.
Won't help
@luckytexasgambler But wages do not have an impact on national security
😂
As a 38 year old unhinged millennial woman.. yeah, sure some of my fyp is trivial stuff that brings me some minor joy in this current hellscape.. The rest is about learning how women keep losing basic bodily autonomy or are at risk of losing more of it. My fyp has real time updates on genocides currently happening.. oh and thank god a kitten video to help me back up from hearing the voice of a young man who set himself on fire in protest of what is happening in Palestine.
To say it’s all silly trends and unhinged women with our Hogwarts houses is just lazy. We share information, we mourn, and yes sometimes we try to remember a time we were less afraid.
They love guns and their worried about tik tok…america is a joke
yup.
i live in a deep red hellscape so my outlook on the USA is pretty bleak.
America ia a contient, the federalised states bit in the middle is the Yankee Doodle dandy place. Most of the North American continent is covered by Canada......... Just so you know.
TikTok is a very serious issue actually, and you should probably think harder about it. Guns are a serious issue too, but a different one.
I’m sorry but an app is more frightening than the idiot with a gun 😊
Tiktok is owned by the Chinese government. This is a concrete fact. The way they run the country, they have made it a science to track citizens on social media, watching everyone.
Chinese citizens who speak against the government disappear. Minority groups are just rounded up and either sent to labor camps or are harvested for organs.
China wants our phones to have Tiktok, do you guys understand? It is a threat to our national security.
The reason that this is bipartisan is because the threat is real. Why do so many people think this is a joke?
If you had the chance to see how the Chinese government operates, you would realize this is no joke.
weird how they are targeting tiktok even though fb and others take and sell the exact same user data.
TikTok is Chinese. The Zuck is American and white. That's the difference.
Thank you for getting it. FB actually collects data on people that do NOT have FB. That's why closing your FB profile can be pointless: they're collecting data on practically everyone.
Yes, but Facebook and others are selling data to American companies that pay the extra income of members of Congress, SCOTUS and other politicians.
Fb doesn't record keystrokes, aka passwords etc
They're not banning tic tok for collecting data there forcing tic tok to devest from their parent company with ties to the CCP after they were caught breaking the law and sending data overseas.
TikTok kept people informed during the writers strike.
and supported Stephen. Wholeheartedly. I'm kind of disgusted with this take.
TikTok is rife with misinformation and lies and dangerous “trends”, how dare you say it keeps anyone “informed”.
I don't think security breach and supporting slave labor is worth it.
And?
So is America really free? It seems ironic to use a China-made iPhone while worrying about the dangers of China.
Yet china bans YT AND FB.....DUH cadre
Yet CCP BANS MOST FOREIGN WEBSITES....DUH
And of course the fact TikTok has been showing everyone what's actually happening in Gaza has nothing to do with this bill, right?
I know.. did you hear the leaked call?
That TikTok users think that TikTok is only the platform showing the horrors in Gaza baffles me. Do they not view or read literally any other news sources than TikTok and therefore have no idea that that content is shown on other social media as well as television and newspapers and their online versions?
@@JCasey-ch2uxTo be honest I don’t trust any large media company reporting on it. There are other sources but I did not see near as much footage on other socials than I did on tik tok.
@@JCasey-ch2ux That is older media targeted at an older audience that is already indoctrinated into accepting the status quo. TikTok is for the younger generations and it's raising awareness which challenges the establishment.
@@JCasey-ch2ux Ikr?!
this is about the US not being able to censor TikTok the way they do Facebook and Instagram
Exactly and the truth just might come out before Nov and they don't like that. Wow! Terrible!
I think its TikTok not giving their user data to the FBI and CIA at a discount like the other social media companies.
是舆论权，无关审查。你们政府不会允许舆论权有可能在别的国家手上。
This is correct
Tiktok is already heavily censored….
We only want home grown tech bros spying on us through our phones!
The writers really showed their position on the matter
Omg almost like every show that’s ever existed
I understand they were aiming for laughs, but it really overlooked how much good, interesting information gets shared on tiktok.
Because they are with the congress on this issue.
@@IamExcaliburThey are essentially forced to be. The government controls the media and controlled opposition
You can’t even share links or cite your sources on TikTok. You believe everything that’s fed to you by the algorithm and that’s “information” 😂
I hope the clock is running down on the GOP House of Representatives...tick-tock, tick-tock.
So, the -GOP- GQP got TIME to bring a vote on this TikTokCrap yet no time to bring a vote on the border bill & aid to Ukraine?! 💔
Don’t get me wrong, the GOP are monsters, but this bill was unanimously approved by a committee of both democrats and republicans, so in this one particular instance it’s not just the republicans who are doing something stupid.
Tick tock tick tock, vote for Trump and we shall have new world totalitarian order😂😂😂
TikTok iOS subscribes to every keystroke (text inputs) happening on third party websites rendered inside the TikTok app. This can include passwords, credit card information and other sensitive user data. While most people dont care it is problematic when high level engineers, executive, and military personal might do this. It is not as crazy as it sounds.
So...Chinese spies look like Charli Damelio, and Russian spies look like Jim Jordan and Ted Cruz. Gimme the Chinese spies. Thanks
Regulate social media. They all collect our info. 🖕
Just make up the info. They are stupid any way. Microsoft collected my info and got them ALL wrong. They want me to verify. Fat Chance. But most info are harmless, just annoying.
Uh no… I don’t want to give the Government more power to “regulate” anything.
@@1Deep43VAyou dont have privacy on social media 😂
@@1Deep43VA "I want the courts to uphold our rights to privacy. But I’m not asking the government to do sh!t" - What do you think the courts are? Do you honestly believe the courts and the government are separate entities?
"Regulate social media. They all collect our info" - Non-social-media websites collect our data, too, as does a ton of software, as well as our phones, tablets, computers, TVs, cars, online stores, department/retail stores, supermarkets... The list goes on and on. It's almost easier listing the things (and companies) that DON'T collect (and share/sell) our data.
Haven't you ever seen the news from "Under the Desk News??" Insightful, concise, incredibly informed reporting. The Tiktokkers stood with you during the strike, turned down studio contacts in support of your strike. A little respect would be awesome.
Love under the desk news and I came to see the clip in context and it disheartening to see how much he bashes people who use the app and make the great content on there. There is so much content on the app that is insightful and educational in addition to being entertaining.
😏 This is clearly ABOUT big corporations and money they don't have control over ... Just yet!!!
What do you think would be the reason for a country to ban a piece of software? A blockade of information? Or to protect the country's businesses
They can try and ban TikTok something most Americans don't want but they still haven't gotten rid of Daylight Savings Time something most Americans do want.
Ikr???
See also tax breaks for rich vs basic federal gun regulations, or most logical legislation other nations already have
Most Americans want DST? 🤔
The thing is while they say it's to ban tiktok, if you look at the bills, it basically says "banning free speech".
So banning tiktok is just a cover up for the biggger agenda.
Yeah, ban it. It's literally just snooping for the CCP anyway. And real Chinese will *never* be able to regain control of their home, so long as we all pretend that the invaders aren't occupying that land. Go find out about the security gaps that were built in to spy on the West, then do a little critical thinking and straighten your facts; then get back to us with a comment that will teach everyone a little more about the situation, from your limited perspective.
This is the most hideous precedent of all time. If any foreign company can be forced to be sold like this, then should China reciprocate the same to American companies having businesses there?
They could start with Apple, im sure that won’t affect anyone’s 401k 😬
Facebook, Twitter etc are already banned in China lmao they set the precedent themselves
You are so ignorant that you don’t know that CHINA LITERALLY DOES EXACTLY THAT.
A lot of adult women are calling their government reps about TikTok...because they want to keep talking about their Hogwart's houses? What a dismissive, garbage take. Adult women do a LOT on TikTok. The very idea that it's a "dancing app for kids" is so outdated, I can't even process. Colbert has always been great at getting to the heart of current issues and punching up. Missed the mark on this one.
It is still largely a dancing app for kids. Lol
Don't worry, I hate tiktok. But clearly it changes since they renamed it from Musically to TikTok. Musically is a dancing app, TikTok is whole nother level.
@@Sailor183 depends on your algorithm, if that is what you see that is what you searched for
Yeah this isn’t going to go the way they think it will. In fact it doesn’t take an oracle to see that it’s going to have the opposite of the intended effect and is going to royally piss off a lot of people. I’m no fan of Tik Tok and don’t really care what happens to it either way but even I can see how this will play out. And I can say that if they pass it I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes when the backlash inevitably hits. It’s like watching a disaster happen in slow motion yet you can’t look away even though you can already see how horrible the fall out will be.
I understand you see this as an invasion of freedom.
Tiktok is not a normal app. It was created by the Chinese government, and is currently used by the Chinese government as a tool to watch and track the people over there.
Any backlash is preferred to the alternative where it's left as Chinese malware installed on a third of the country's phones.
@@TheFinalChapters You mean on the phones that are MADE IN CHINA?
@@chezsuzie It's a lot easier to inspect foreign hardware than foreign software.
Especially software that can update at any time.
@@TheFinalChapters 😂😂😂
I just want to say to the staff of the Late Show... how many TikTokers stood in solidarity with you while you were on strike. Now you're throwing not only them but the American public under the bus for not a TikTok ban bill, but an internet censorship bill. Good job.
I expected something like this comment to have more attention. It deserves to be noted and respected. It’s not write shows like this can turn their back on those who supported them.
@@APerson10003I KNOW.... Stephen has been compromized and sold his soul to the corporate media.
Dude, tiktokers had a hella opportunity to make mad $$ during the writers strike & the vast majority stood with y'all & you do them dirty?
Weak move punching down at online creators when your target should be the federal government forcing the hostile sale of a foreign company. But sure, let's make fun of people having fun on the internet.
it's not just tiktok. from what this one's been told, the law would allow the government to ban ANY social media they suspect could be a security risk. And given how things have been going, do you think ANY government should have that kind of power? Whether you lean left or right, progressive, conservative, or regressive, we should all agree that the government, especially EITHER government that could take power in 2025, shouldn't be able to ban social media so easily.
Especially since if it were really such a security risk, pretty sure there's already ways to shut it down.
Ultimately, though, they just want to shift its ownership, so any ban wouldn’t last long.
Are you a Khajiit?
My friend, Tiktok is not a normal company. It is owned by the Chinese government, and over there, the government uses their version of Tiktok as a way to watch and track people.
Tiktok is a tool used by a dictatorship to watch and control their citizens.
Please do not compare normal companies to a tool that China uses to oppress and control people.
@@Coolestmovieseven if the ban on this one company doesn't last, it's still, A) strongarming a foreign company into selling to local investors(getting real shades of banana republics) and B) going to leave a far reaching law on the books that they could use both to repeat this tactic as well as to generally nuke any site they don't like.
@@ircjesselee no, but this one DOES have wares if you have coins :P
The reasons for the peculiarities of this one's speech are unrelated to elder scrolls
The only TikTok Donnie should worry about is the one coming from his own personal doomsday clock.
Still banging out rippers 👌
Why are you bringing up donnie? He's not in charge of anything now. Its the current admin that are considering this.
@@wertnog6379
So the Donald didn't cause the Republicans to stop the border bill? And he isn't influencing them to cut off aid to Ukraine? Get real.
@wertnog6379 its congress not the executive branch
Yeah, still waiting for that and it haven't happened yet. Off topic by the way.
This is so disappointing... Especially after the support and loyalty Stephen got from huge tiktokers who refused to create content for any network during the writer's strike.
If they ban Tic-tok, they should ban Facebook, Instagram, Amazon and Google as all of them do what they say Tic-tok is doing.
They are saying to tik Tok is under the thumb of an adversarial government. (Defined as China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran). I didn't believe those other companies are at the mercy of those governments.
they do it for ads not for ccp
@@chromewarnock9681you can't seriously be this naive if you don't think American government doesn't do the same thing and has time and time again proven, they do the exact same thing.
@@chromewarnock96811) That's not better 2) I can guarantee you they sell your info to the government, the cops, anyone who will pay money for it. You're a fool if you think your data is only being sold for ads
I often see how naive Americans can be about China. They know so little about China. While it's clear that TikTok is a Trojan horse stealing information, what's more important is that China doesn't allow social media platforms from other countries, not just the United States. This is because they are the ones spreading TikTok. China does not respect a reciprocal market economy. So if they are treated naively, ultimately the United States will be caught by China.
Isn't Elon Musk South African?
That's the joke.
He is an American now. It's easy to get citizenship when you are white and rich.
He's white though, so they're ok with that
@realnzall that is correct, but Elon Musk also became a US citizen and did not have to give up his South African citizenship (or his Canadian citizenship-his mother was born in Canada)
Not only Elon but every whites living in USA are European immigrants 🤡🤡🤡
Yes, an app developer should not allowed to share user data with a government... but of course, they should be able to sell that data for profit to any and all companies that are willing to pay for it.
Yes. But the Chinese government has no respect for any rules or law or human decency. Tiktok is not a normal app. It is owned by the Chinese government, and over there, they actually use it to watch and track people. Tiktok is one of many tools that the Chinese government uses, that ultimately oppresses their people.
Tiktok is not a normal app.
Yep. Like fb that has a ton of scammers
Including the gonvernment.
Well, those things are very different. The Chinese military aren't just trying to sell you something; they're trying to control the worlds economy and undermine democracy.
Yet there’s absolutely zero proof that TikTok gives user data to Chinese government. They even spent 1 billion back in 2020 to move their server to the US to comply with US laws, but they are shooting at a moving goal post because data security was never the true issue. It’s about crushing Chinese competitors that are winning.
An app is a national security risk. Yet almost electronic devices are made in the same said country. Interesting.
Lol national security is BS
Tik tok is educating people about real shit and it’s becoming a problem. People are getting exposed
Idc if they ban tik tok, but i do wish they'd ban TRUMP.
Exile would be a very lenient penalty for treason.
Ahhhahahaha! I wish they would
Biden committed treason as well...
Tell him there is no country for old men, as you put him on a boat that will never get close to land again.
Trump 2024🥳🥳🥳🥳
Banning tik tok before guns is crazy
and onlyfan
Like tik tok or not, this is a dangerous precedent and clearly violates the first amendment.
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Where in the first amendment does it enshrine social media platforms? 😊
On the same grounds the rest of the world should ban office 365, Meta, Google, Apple, ... Now! Do it!
No, tiktok is a security threat from foreign adversaries. The same CCP that tries to control vital digital infrastructure in the US. Nuclear and biological weapons are not the only threats nations face.
... the tiktok ban is a clear example of how Americans love free market competion,
as long as it doesn't give someone else the upper hand ...
They already do, all of that is banned in China
I fecking hate office 365 😠
@@MrMarcosema HUH, China is the whole rest of the world?
Here is a question someone should ask congress, where do think that phone that has tik tok installed on it was made? The router in your home you are connected to? The infotainment system in your car? The 6 TVs in your house, where were they made? China made products that have data collection capabilities are woven into the American lifestyle and you are worried about one single app? And for some extra fun, flip over that red MAGA hat and read the tag, it says MADE IN....
To those that have commented in this thread, I have made several replies but CZcams seems fit to hide/delete my replies. I suppose I have angered the algorithm.
Gotta start somewhere. The CCP is failing China and tanking their economy, so they’re desperate for every opportunity to screw with the west, and an app like TikTok is invaluable to them in shaping public opinion, especially about China and the evil CCP. And I’m writing that as someone left of centre, not some right-wing maga freak. There’s a new kind of warfare going on with this seemingly innocuous tech, and China’s influence needs to be curtailed, one step at a time.
I've thought about this. From what I understand, our engineers and tech companies have made sure the phones themselves do not give the Chinese government access. I'm not a software engineer, but that's what they seem to be doing.
Installing Tiktok is opening a door, allowing them access.
That is exactly why we buy Chinese made phones but are now trying to ban Tiktok.
Over there, in China, you know that the Chinese government uses their version of Tiktok as a tool of their oppression? It's one of many ways the Chinese government watches and controls the people.
Meta got caught doing psychological tests on users without consent and still do it. Yet they were never truly punished.
@@izzyxblades I certainly would not put much trust in American companies' ability to safeguard chinese electronic devices, they can't even safeguard their own airplanes, trains and automobiles. I remember back in the "good ole days" of IC manufacturing many of the engineers took pleasure in embedding secret lithography within the silicone. With todays multitude of devices and their connectivity and IOT platforms these devices could easily be delivered "clean", pass any inspection and be one firmware update away from uploading data. America's Cyber Defense capabilities are laughable at best. You would be appalled at how many government and medical facilities are still running Windows 95, 98, 2000 or Windows 7.
@@izzyxblades I'm in China now, it's all about money, all governments are the same.
The whole world can use TikTok, but not USA. 😂😂😂
Soon, except for other Asian countries, it will not be available, because the government will force them to ban tiktok
We don't want that shit anyway 😂🤡😊
Yeah, not yet. It's just a bill.
what is bill? @@thatswhatisaid8908
CHINA:WE EAT MCD ,KFC,STARBARK,COLA,PIZZA HAT,BUGKING,....AND USE IPHONE TESLA.....EVERYDAY, ITS TIME TO TAKE OVER ALL OF THESE SHIT
Yes please, Ban TikTok at now.
The prohibition of TikTok unless it is sold is a measure that appears logical primarily within the United States. Even as someone who does not use TikTok, it's evident to me that concerns over national security are not the real issue here. Is this really how competition is now being approached, by exerting pressure on another country? It's as if we're suggesting that if China were to require Apple to sell its operations in China to Huawei, citing national security reasons, it would be seen as a comparable action.
Nailed it in one.
This has nothing to do with Tik Tok competing with US companies.
@@TheFinalChaptersit has everything to do with that.
@@TheFinalChaptersBombardier forced divestment of its c series to airbus is a clear indicator that US gonvernment abuse their authority to remove a competitor on the behest of Boeing.
Nothing new here. They are doing it again on the behest of the likes of meta and Google who is having significant trouble competing with tiktok.
The whole data thing is smoke and mirrors. Do you really think China is gonna gain some national security advantage from knowing you a no one likes spaghetti or go to work in downtown somewhere? Banning it on gonvernment phones and employees make sense if national security is the actual concern.
Just for the record I don't use tik tok and never will but that us my choice and not some forced action by the gonvernment that would violate the first amendment.
@@ralphslucher5417*No one dares to call it race - based crap now ha ha 🤭 🤭 US need it to be European Heritaged Owners 🤭 bunch of fake liberals*
People's idiocy is astonishing...
never underestimate the power of stupidity.
Yes. But people will still keep voting for them.
Im still trying to figure out what is so different about TikTok in regards to user data for the other social media apps. I've read it. They all do the same shit.
That's not what this is about. It's about censoring people's opposition to what's going on in Gaza.
Why is he licking Tiktok's boots? 😂😂
Hey if the government could stop trying to restrict rights to internet usage that’d be real cool and human of them.
Tiktok is owned by the Chinese government, it's not a normal app
"You're not in Huffelpuff, you're in marketing!"
This 33 y/o would like to think one can be both!!
I'm 44 and I'm in Gryffindor. It's not just the Millennials.
If my grandma had been into the internet when she was younger,
she might have taken the quiz too. She's 94 and she read the Harry Potter
books before I did.
Please, remember that that stone was thrown by a fifty-something gentlenman who quotes the lord of the rings verbatim regularly, lmao. I love and respect Mr. Colbert immensely but even I had to pause and mentally ask "Really sir, did YOU seriously just throw that stone?" 😂
I'm 45 and was sorted in to Slytherin last I checked.
Pukwudgie myslef. (I'm an American, so I'll take assignment of an *American* house. 🤪)
@lynntaylor6686
You're grandma sounds cool. Glad to hear she's made it to an old age. I raise my energy drink in toast to her continued longevity.
@Kittymancer78
Never have I more wished that Mr Colbert responded to these comments than to yours.
@@Kittymancer78 Mr. Colbert was actually in The Hobbit. I'm not making that up.
@@MyFiddlePlayerlol, oh, I know. I watch regularly. I remember when they showed the footage and talked about it.
Maybe our govt should focus on stuff like housing and not allowing corporations to buy up all the inventory to artificially raise the price....
When both parties agree on something, it's 100% in favor of reducing the power of the people. When gov owned late night shows support an issue, it's 100% in favor of reducing the power of the people.
Which government do you imagine owns the show?
@@TheGreatAtario I'd be more concerned about who owns the government. Trickle down social engineering at its finest.
The USA needs data protection laws pronto.
drama .is on BY. ALL HIDERS OF MADHAB AND NEEWS .NON-BUSLIM COUNTRIES NO EXIS .APP IS SURE BAUSLIMS .2 PARTIES GOING NAKIE LIVERS OR BUSLIMS . 3-4 GARDER WERE 90% IN PAKISTAN AND IN ALL COUNTREIS ...FOUND FREEDOM FORM THESE ARMEI SIN 1980S .......THESE ARE SHI PICKERS ...TOO CIRMINLAS , AND TOO KAANAIN . UR ALL PAGE SITES ALL ON EM HIDDING SMAE NEWS TOP MADHAB ..TOLD ON TOP ON SITS ... ON FB ..IF ...NET SPREAD IS URS TO ALL OF THIS GANG AMOUNG WHERE EVER NET APP CAN ... REWARDS ARE BEEN TOLD ON SITS ... ITS UR MEDIA OF ALL WORLD SINCE EVR 1 MAN SHOW ...HOW .....CALLL WAHAB .. AGAIN ... MICROSFT ......CALL HIM IF NAY THING IS SPARED ....DMA OR GRID IS SURE ..MISSING ......
China telling Americans their rights are infringed is comedy gold.
US is so repectectful to human right that their govt has rights to force u sell ur asset to them, and especially if u are not even american.
the era has changed, especially after someone supports genocide in Gaza
the genocide criminals have no moral grounds to lecture us........
IKR. We don't have behavioral correction camps here in the US if people are 'acting weird'.
Indeed, just protect the US companies stealing and selling our data.
Really?
so many tiktok creators backed you up during the writers stike, and you do this Steven ?
Say goodbye to everyone younger than about 50 repugs! 🤣🤣🤣
"You're 59 Stephen, you're in television, not Lord of the Rings"
He's in The Hobbit, though.
The only problem American Marketing firms have with TikTok is that the data being harvested isn't given to them, too. Just SHARE IT
Or restore American citizens' right to privacy? 🤔
LOL
and the fact that tiktok doesn't parrot U.S propaganda angers them, how dare Tiktok tell american people what's going on in Gaza !
Tik Tok is a huge organizing resource for antiwar activists and people sharing the truth about government and history. The danger is not about privacy at all, or nationality - all these companies are multinational and the Tik Tok CEO is famously Singaporian, not Chinese. The danger of Tik Tok is that people are being educated and empowered to free themselves and others. It threatens the ruling class whose existence depends on people being ignorant and isolated.
Ma'am you are the first comment that hit it on the head. THAT is the heart of the matter, that is why the support was bipartisan and why they moved so quickly on this bill.
I wish more people would understand this.
For example, it can showcase the true life of Uyghurs in China to the world, which is different from the biased reports of media influenced by political parties and conglomerates behind the scenes.
@Kittymancer78 I still don't understand why that matters....I go on tiktok to watch some funny vids while I pass the time literally could care less what someone could be preaching
@@herosio270Except that content about Uyghurs is literally banned on tiktok LMAO
You guys are such sheep that have convinced yourself you are free thinkers
@@drooooop Because TikTok does not spread obvious rumors. In fact, thieves of tUyghurs are not punished, and even vendors who engage in unfair transactions will not be expelled. Uyghurs have privileges in China. It's not as you imagine. Although there are indeed some undemocratic aspects in this country, it is precisely this that has prevented differences and riots. Supporting opposition forces make them fight to eachother to weaken a country is what the United States most wants to do to China.
You must understand that things have their multifaceted nature.
✋🏿Excuse me sir I'm a 40 year old Ravenclaw accountant. I can do whatever the hell I want.
Really instead of lowering the cost of living
Whether it goes or stays, it doesn't affect me. I've never used it, will never use it or any other media app for that matter (excluding YT).
Totally dull and useless take to have. Maybe we should not be judging if its ok for Congress to ban a phone app based on whether or not we personally use it, and rather that its a ridiculous overstep in Congress' authority that can set precedent for them doing it more often in the future.
@timf7679 Sorry my personal opinion offended you?
@@Zerolink30 "Sorry my personal opinion offended you?" - You should be. There's a valid reason your opinion offended that person. First, they came for...
You have to understand that this goes beyond singular personal experience. People are upset because there’s a hypocrisy because data is being sold on other platforms as well so the reason that they gave for banning it is not valid so if they banned based on a lie, it affects everyone’s freedom. That is the discussion here And the way he portrays it that it is a dance app is completely wrong. There are scientists philosophers teachers musicians, all sorts of people from all walks of life and areas of expertise, sharing their work not to mention the millions of people that actually make a living off of this. The band is because Amazon is being hurt by the TikTok shop and the second reason is because people are being mobilized and galvanized for political issue. Stephen Colbert cannot speak on this issue because he himself works for immediate conglomerate controlling his freedom of speech but I get it if you don’t use it and have nothing to do with it it is hard to plug into the conversation about it.
Did he just commit treason on live TV?
How about banning Stephen Colbert! LOL
Watching an old guy fumble through a basic understanding of any kind of free expression that isn't stamp collecting or some sh!t is embarrasing. If congress cared about data mining they'd be after facebook and twitter. They just don't like information sharing that they can't control.
I wasn't expecting a cameo from Hydraulic Press Channel.
Freedo of SPEACH😂 what ironic
His show has a TikTok account but he thinks everyone that uses it is a moron? And the guy who knows every detail about Lord of the Rings is making fun of Harry Potter fans? The arrogance smells even worse when mixed with hypocrisy.
I'm old enough to remember when people were very protective not to sully their reputation, now through social media, they get Paid to do it.
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The Late Show audience has the intelligence of leftover food. They'd cheer their own execution.
lol
Long time fan. Really disappointed in your take on this.
Read the license agreement u have to opt in on. TikTok makes u share your geolocation, personal info like phone numbers etc, your IP address, browser searches, and all of your social media contacts. That’s something I don’t want my own government or even parents to have access to, much less a foreign government. There’s a reason why if u a government issued business phone, u can’t have TikTok on it and it’s not because they’re afraid you’ll be goofing off. You give up a bunch of vulnerable information.
Hey sports fan, if you don't think other social media sites track your data this way then I have a bridge to sell you.
@@NoThatRyanwake up, buuuuuuddy.
@@NoThatRyanThe other social media sites aren't a direct arm of a Communist government 😂 take a civic class.
Then why doesn’t congress regulate what information platforms are allowed to collect? Giving the government power to just ban apps they consider a ‘security’ risk is a ridiculous power grab.
@@NoThatRyan US companies getting your personal information is your problem.
Companies from adversarial countries like China getting your personal information (or worse) is the US's problem.
I'll never own real estate or get to retire, just let me be a Hufflepuff
Lol @ the Hogwarts joke. I feel personally attacked 😂😂
Still never used it. Won’t miss it. CZcams Shorts and Facebook/Instagram Reels have all of the same recycled content.
Unoriginal stolen content originally made on tiktok. All that will go away once tiktok goes away.
Never used it, but still have a clueless opinion on it?
GTFO.
Same. But I'm more concerned about the very fascist precedent it could start
hope u realize that CZcams Shorts is cloned from TikTok
@@fl00d69 Even if we didn't used it, we can see content on social media in general so it's not clueless
Congrats to The Hydraulic Press channel.
During the writers' strike, a lot of tiktok influencers got reached out to by companies that wanted them to take the pressure off. Tiktok which is pretty aggressively leftist chose solidarity. Stephen's response is coming off as very "fuck you, got mine" and it feels really gross. Solidarity when you need help, but not when someone else is asking for help. Remember this next time.
💯
TRUMP BUYS TIKTOK 😅😂😅😂
"Hey Homer, how'd you know the Chinese were spying on ya?"
"I just naturally assumed"
I'd be in favor of banning TikTok if it ended the saga of who can out-stupid who with the next harmful prank or trend. However let's be real, every company out there would be just as eager to fill that role and it'd probably be CZcams. It wouldn't change anything.
Yeah, that's been a thing since humanity first showed up. Nothing stops the need to out-stupid other humans. We just keep moving to new platforms
It is related to the algorithm that TikTok pushing such content. The senators mentioned the difference in figures among different apps. We are feeding by the app what CCP want our citizen to see.
America's Funniest Home Videos of the 1980's wants to remind you where it all started and THEY aired short 20 second snippets you ate up like foil tray TV dinner of Salisbury Steak with mashed potatoes and green peas, because your mouth can't forget it
Tiktok didn't start that. People have been doing that shit on this platform since I was in high school in 2009.
It would help if they - and all the other platforms - could ban stupidly dangerous videos! Too many people have been hurt trying them.
Huh, Stephen going AGAINST free expression and young people being politically engaged is not what I expected. But as my dad was fond of saying, "Better to lose a friend than to miss out on a good line."
Not Colbert being on the wrong side of history 😬
Did the hydraulic press channel just make the late show?
How would American ownership solve anything?
Off hand I’d say it’s because they want to use it to spy on and or influence their own people instead of letting China do it. Basically they’re butt hurt because they can’t use the platform to influence people like they can with Facebook, Instagram and other American owned social media companies. So instead of leaving well enough alone they’re risking nuking their own career’s by screwing over millions of Americans rights to freedom of expression over a stupid app.
my guess would be that in the govt’s eyes, American ownership would mean the company that owns it is subject to US laws and regulations, and could be pressured to do or not do certain things with the data, for better or worse
so they can be the ones spying on the rest of the world instead of China
But we can’t ban together and call out congress people about abortion rights, the grocers price gouging us, gas prices, minimum wage, cease fire in Gaza.
Like what the fck is up with American priorities.
Also, hearing you say people said ‘TikTok told me to call’
I worked many an office, got a similar thing all the time. “Well they told me to call you”
I was going to say I'm old enough to remember the Web in the 1990s and that there's nothing wrong with website owners, in the capacity of them being community leaders, to protest against new laws and asking the users to do what they can. But then I remembered that this is just not the case anymore. If a billion dollar website tells their millions of users to do a thing, how much of that thinking is about "we need to do what's genuinely the best and most rational thing for the community" and how much of it is about "I have a giant website/app and a whole lot of idiot users who do just what I tell them to, and we need to do what's best for my bank account"?
Don't ban TikTok, just force them to relocate to the US. Or actually, since America is on the verge of becoming an authoritarian state too, make all social media companies relocate to the EU.
The EU is also heading there full steam. Either South America or Africa would be a better option.
I empathize that you feel our country is disappointing you. Many feel this.
But I urge you to realize, no matter how bad it gets here or in the EU, there is no government on earth more evil than China.
I am Chinese American, my family came here and stay here because it is hell on earth over there. It used to be our home, many of my friends and family still live there. I miss the food and the culture. But I am never going back.
The Chinese government routinely "disappears" dissenting voices.
The complaint you just made, if you said that in China, you would disappear. And unless you have family that has powerful connections, no one would be able to get justice for you.
they already relocated and have a partnership with US company Oracle for the servers, the problem US has is that TikTok is owned by chinese company Bytedance and they are afraid Bytedance can order TikTok to give data to them.
There are already authoritarian states in the EU.
Getting them to sell to a US company is actually the point.
@@linko1998Zuckerberg is doing the ssme thing as is betterhelp. No one is going after them.
TikTok does not need to be banned 😡
Hey, did you hear the one where the head of an Israeli Lobby group (Anti Defamation league) was recorded saying how they had to do something about TikTok because they had an anti semitism problem with young people on the platform ?
But isn't Tiktok owned by someone from Singapore? What was that moronic grilling of someone in Congress who kept saying "Senator, I'm Singaporian."
He doesn't own it, he's the ceo. 60%of tiktok is owned by international investors, 20% is owned by employees (7k of which are American employees) and 20% is owned by the 2 software engineers that started the app. Those are the shares owned in China.
Probably only the ceo is from singapore to be the front guy , with the liberal employment market of singapore that allows foreigner to work there easily, it is not hard to guess how many percentage of their employee are actually local Singaporean
@@catharinabeeInteresting, thanks!
It isn't. A CEO is often just a staff member. And TikTok has a parent company, which is based in China