Bungie Need To NERF This Hunter Build... (Here's How!)
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- Bungie Need To NERF This Hunter Build... (Here's How!) #destiny2 #shorts
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Bro I feel like everytime I shoot a hunter they panic and press every ability key and run away
As a hunter main, I see hunters and warlocks running the most, titans funny enough never bail from a fight
@@Turmoosebecause we generally can't lol
That's what they've done for a decade lol
@@theezenriarinze9203my slow titan ass trynna turn a corner and all of a sudden mfs bring out well and shatter skating in crucible
@@theezenriarinze9203this
Going against hunters always go like this.
1. Engage gunfight
2. Dodge to spawn clone
3. Take aim assist completely away from opponent
4. Hunter throws swarm nades to make you one shot
5. Repeat steps 1 to 4
Its every time I swear 😂😂😂
Don’t forget smoke to either confuse further or make it impossible to fight back 😂
@@JA-si6sjyeah but smokes compared to a titan charge is just ridiculous
@@Biscossitydumbest thing ive heard in a long time
Id much rather fight smokes than a literal tank with commando pro
@jamesford871 the difference there is a smoke hard counters a titan sprint. And a Warlock camping. And blocks visibility. And removes radar. And.... you get my point.
The only thing the smoke doesn't do is a bunch of damage but you have weapons for that and extended chip damage+slow is better than 60-100 damage for a melee anyways.
I literally lose a week off of my life every time i open a gunfight with a hunter and they shit a scarecrow and stand behind it with a Khovostov.
u mad? it's not like titans havent rampaged crucible for 5 years can we have 3 weeks? oh and our supers still suck in pvp compared to every other class. heres where youre gonna say a bunch of bs that they dont but they do. altho that new prism one is maybe kinda op, its nothing like the prism titan one where they literally throw axe supers for all their tm's to pick up along with an insane super itself because why not. so yeah all the prism supers are overtuned on release.
@@cryengine_xbro grow up stop asking people if they’re mad😂you’re just a hunter main who can’t accept the fact that hunters are also extremely easy to use and have been for a long time. Stop taking personal offense. It’s a fucking character in a video game.
All I know is in IB so far, the amount of times I’ve been smoked, swarmed, and cloned on is too high. Hunters get amazing area control on all 3 of their abilities, and usually teams are majority hunters, makes so many parts of the map annoying to walk into
Skill issue, get better.
Don’t forget the super that they all run which is equivalent to three thundercrash now add three more people running it your bound to see that super a dozen times in a game
@lc6997 your ass was definitely like a 0.7 pre final shape. stop acting like you got what it takes
Idk why the Hunter clone registers as an enemy as opposed to a destructible object like the Titan wall does. Would solve the AA issues a ton.
Or make the clone show up as a dot once you shoot it once so the radar is more legible.
Because that's what it's supposed to do
Prismatic hunter is the most discouraging thing to fight against as someone that's fully deaf.
Tbh I couldn’t even think of ways to combat this.
Yeah. Kinda like a fart in a spacesuit.
It’s too bad they don’t use audio visual cues like Fortnite! That would be awesome
Me too@@roach2110
Ever tried not being deaf?
Dont forget that op super(duration) where they can damn near teleport around half the maps nuking the entire team in one super
Bro prismatic hunters are so female dog made, they just ability spam before shooting and they get it back wayyy too fast
An overshields effectiveness and a dodge are very different inherently.
I think a better nerf would be to remove all aim assist off the clone. Most of the time when they get away from me it’s because my stick got pulled off them for that final bullet.
That would defeat the purpose of the clone
@@Costelloworldno
Destroying a clone should allow you to proc buffs like the stasis turret
Lol. No
Threaded Specter casually being one of the most attrocious things in the Crucible.
One thing they could do is delay the aim assist and bullet magnetism of Threaded Spector. That way, if a Hunter panic-dodges, I'll still land my shots. Also, why not add a cooldown? Icarus Dash has one? Shoulder Charge abilities have one?
It’s haves one you need wait 38 second if you have 100 mobility
@@cartagena818 True, but there's also Coyote, Frost, and that one Prismatic Fragment(I forgor) which effectively reduce that cooldown by half.
Clones should be every two dodges you only spawn one
This was already was made months ago... with strand when you use the clone aspect it has a longer cooldown I assume works the same way on prismatic
I say just swap out specter for the whirlwind aspect and slow dodge for shatterdive and problem solved. You have all the movement options and the oppressive clone spam is gone
Running into a trials match with 3 hunters wasn’t even fun. Especially my buddy and I play titans…
Even when we were better it was still just 3 people trying to run down a hunter spamming evasive maneuvers while doing enough damage to wreck your shit 😂😂😂
Instead of dodge every 20 seconds, it’ll be every 40 seconds in pvp… Yup…
That Hunter aspect lame af. Rolling on the ground like toddlers and creating bs
I feel they should choose one, either let it manipulate radar and remove the damage and threadlings or the opposite
That makes zero sense, considering there’s literally an exotic that generates more threadings when your clone is hit. They can’t just remove an exotic function. And that would make Balance of Power an OBVIOUS choice in pvp.
That make zero sense
Why are you feeling like it shouldn’t do damage though it doesn’t kill anymore since they nerfed it the first time
It’s honestly been completely useless since that nerf it’s genuinely mid and shouldn’t be compared to something that blocks all damage and gives you an overshield and besides if you stand in a barrier it does damage
@@Edges_ brother it draws aim assist like crazy. Especially on controller. It zones off an area because of the damage it can do. It spawns threading’s which also keep you out of an area. The number of times I lose fights because someone dodged and my controller keeps shooting the clone is ridiculous.
@@Atleastafewyards it does not do enough damage to kill you
I play on controller and the aim assist is manageable if it can’t have any of that which all of that besides the sim assist got nerfed what can it have exactly?
I’ve used this thing the most out of anyone the nerfed version that is because after it got nerfed no one used it and I don’t blame them because it got significantly worse so that fact that people think it needs more is ridiculous and to compare it to a barrier is worse
The issue is that doubling its cooldown really would stink for PvE. I think just remove any and all aim assist/bullet magnetism interactions, then make its PvP damage amount significantly lower. It’s radar impact can also be decreased
I genuinely think this is the most broken subclass we’ve ever had to deal with in crucible. And as a cherry on top, they were given a super which is essentially 3 thunder crashes. 💀
How does this stuff even make it to live build?
I never even saw the problem with that super. It's like a slightly more tuned version of Nova warp. But nova warp lasts longer
@@HugeHaddockthat’s you, you could be completely brain dead for all we know. that super is completely busted, and needs to be severely nerfed because it is just boring as fuck seeing nothing but the worst players in the game solo super and teleport to you instantly from across the map with no penalty and barely any time to react.
@@HugeHaddockway further range on both the damage and the usage of it compared to nova warp, you’re looking at the most used vs one of the least used pvp supers for a reason
I completely agree, i dont think they should nuke it but this is what I've been saying for awhile aswell
It already got nuked it’s fine if they touch it again then it’s never getting used again
It’s not comparable to a barrier at all
The issue with prismatic as a whole is that it almost completely takes away from the know-ability of an engagement that you use to have. You see a warlock, hunter or titan and peep their subclass, you more or less know what you're getting with your engagment. Now, it is always always a guessing game.
But none of the abilities are new...so it shouldn't matter...
The actual problem is that there is no reason to run the single-element subclasses anymore and if you are not using Prismatic then you are at an objective disadvantage 90% of the time in a PvE or PvP scenario.
Hunters need a major nerf in general
Wait until you start fighting invis hunters that are amplified… the whole goddamn match!
😂 I gotta try that
There is so much broken about prism hunter that I honestly it needs a full rework. I don't know how a 17 second cooldown with that much value made it through playtesting
@@rhys5596 hunter is their biggest player base and they needed Final Shape to sell by making players feel high with power. Same reason still hunt works with nighthawk
Who says they do play testing?
@@aksis7187agreed. Not to mention Sixth Coyote having relevance to the story and Micah-10.
What else is broken on prism hunter that isn't the clone?
At the end of the day it's 17 seconds you will only be able to use it a limited amount of times per match and that value decreases the less often you need it. Not as broken as people think it is.
Why did they even give hunters swarm nade? Isn’t tripmine a lot more on brand
Not really...swarm was always the better base pic in D1...trip was only good with the exotic in D1 and D2 ...without the exotic trips are trash..you can run/ walk right through them and take little to no damage...fallen trips are better that hunter ones...thats why most hunter don't like the Prismatic grenade
Smoke bombs should only ping radar, weaken, and being generous but remove radar if ran through. Slow and blind should be exclusive to stasis and arc.
Not double the time on dodge but instead just put a timer on the clone meaning if I use the clone doesn’t matter if I dodge again the clone won’t appear again after a certain time pass like 20 second or more it would less the complains.
It's the aim assist that needs to be taken off the clone. It's the broken part. Imagine warlocks turrets and titan baracade had that. It doesn't need it and is a bane in pvp
The decoys should only be used as what it's meant to be.... a decoy for the map, not be able to take damage and send out threadlings! Also smokes and swarm grenades need a cooldown🥲 this hunter meta is ruining pvp experience for every1 and its boring af
Tbh, the clone isn't even that problematic. Its only an issue of you run head first in with a shotgun. Otherwise its not a problem. If they add a cooldown to it, sure, whatever. I just think its unnecessary.
Take away the aim assist vacuum from the spectre. It's a literal magnet and is ridiculous to fight against. Also Doubling the timer is a Renewal Grasp situation all over again. Last time they did something like that, they effectively killed the exotic for like an entire year.
Your only option is to run away from it but by the time you go to take a different angle they have the next one set up it’s just very annoying to play against especially when that’s half of the team using it and the super which is basically three thundercrash so you could potentially get killed by it 5-6 times in a game with basically no counter besides a snipe while they are loading the teleport up
Give it a deactivation time of 5 seconds like Mask of Bakris and make it so players can shoot through the clone without aim assist. A little less uptime for an anti-aggression radar manipulating buddy, while also not being a “get out of jail free” ability while engaged in a gunfight.
Well said 👏
Mask of bakris takes 10 seconds to start recharging that’s definitely how this should be idk why they haven’t done that before but the aim assist on that clone is so hard I can’t take my reticle off it not even real players have that much aim assist it’s weird trying to hit a shot when the clone makes me stare at it
This is not a good suggestion. Whatever the change ends up being it has to be something that will not affect PVE. The story of Hunter is PVP sandbox actively making the class less fun for PVE.
That’s kinda what happens when a game is literally split into 2 balancing sandbox like many said before Destiny 2 will always be held back by PVP when it comes to balancing. If they ever do try to make a Destiny 3 or if frontiers happen to be a Destiny 2 going forward they seriously need to drop PVP because the game will never reach its potential when PVP sandbox have to keep everything at a minimum check
@@KalvinKoolAidKoolAgreed. PvP ruins the game. It's a small, optional part of the game, yet many nerfs come from it that are also changed in PvE. Nerf our "god-slaying" abilities because a bunch of sweaty losers think PvP is the main game and can't get better
I will say that the arcbolt grenade is the worst choice for hunters. I would've preferred the flux since it's been my favorite since D1
Sounds fair. On Titan the strand melee cooldown got increased by nearly a minute and that's for one charge. I think a super will recharge faster naturally before your 3 melee charges
In PVP sure, but they won't do it, because it would kill the aspect in PVE and we all know this game is PVE game with PVP is something optional on the side. Most people don't even care what PVP players think and devs knows this.
as long as the cooldown is only in PvP then I'm pretty sure most players wouldn't mind it... BUT!
Seeing how the last nerf where they added more cooldown to it also affected it in PvE I fear doubling the cooldown would just murder the aspect all together in both PvE and PvP.
And seing how most of the aspects on prismatic Hunter is VERY PvE oriented except the Threaded Specter it could be quite a brutal way to try and fix it and keep in mind this would also affect Strand Hunter who isn't really an issue.
If i were to nerf the Threaded Specter I wouldn't touch the cooldown, but I would instead nerf the AA pull just to make sure controller players don't get completely hard countered by a simple dummy. Furthermore I would also make it so the Threadling will only spawn if either the Hunter shoots and destroy the dummy, or of course if other players run into it.
But if an opposing guardian shoots and destroys it no threadlings would spawn and I would also reduce it's health in PvP by 30%.
As for PvE just remove that damn cooldown nerf lol
Regarding the Titan's bastion cooldown is mainly because how it synergizes extremely well with other Void Titans giving them a 200% increase to their grenade cooldown and buff to melee damage.
Threaded Specter on the other hand doesn't really synergize with anything... maybe if every Hunter ran with those new legs? (Balance of Power) with those on I could 100% justify doubling it's cooldown for PvP.
Similar to citan's ramparts... please Bungie remove the cooldown nerf in PvE... please....
What’s annoying is the shards that shoot at you and follow & freeze you. It gets on my FUCKING nerves
Need to remove the wall hacks from hunter too. It was OP on OEM for titans
Is bro talking about Knucklehead radar? Brother u must've not been there. OEM was broken bc when someone shot u(in a FPS) you got a damage buff, a way more consistent wallhack, AND an overshield when u killed them. Them two are not the same
@@camelot1722 Dude...he's talking about how you get walls after going invis
@DavidJohnson-zu4or OEM is still better by miles. Like it's wallhacks vs wallhacks, dmg buff, and overshield. And OEM walls are literally easier to get then hunters. Like the hunter rage boner going on rn is crazy
Just remove AA from the clone and make it so when shot in pvp no threadlings come out, only have threadlings if the person who made it shoots it or another player triggers it by getting too close
Change the grenade! The main reason I don't touch the Pris class. Usually still use the normal subclasses on the hunter.
Instead of the spike grenade how about like use the grapple grenade that suspends targets and when defeated or after a few seconds it spreads scorch or jolts near by targets?
It's pure bail out, I should've lost in so many encounters due to swarm nades but that clone just takes priority
Maybe make it so that while the clone is up your class ability doesn't Regen. It only starts to Regen after the clone is popped by any method.
Yoooo this is actually interesting asf and I would love to see how that plays out in games
@@travwolfe101 no.... then you have no dodge for days....
That would kind of Neuter pve Hunter a tad bit
Some people just dodge as soon as they’re being chased or in a gun fight, then once out of the way they immediately break their decoy so threadlings will come out and attack whoever was chasing
@@ravenmoonbow2262I mean that’s at the cost of throwing off radar and zoning in the meantime
Nothing I don’t even get why this is getting tweaked when titans have 15 ways to one hit melee you and warlocks have a better healing factor than wolverine.
You are delusional if you dont think hunters dont deserve a nerf. We have so much engage and disengage potential with our smoke swarm and spectre. Its not at all a fun time to play against them and there is barely any counterplay to this.
You're on some drugs if you think hunter is balanced at all. Titan is the least used class in endgame activities so if you are running into a lot of pvp titans, I really don't think you are in skilled enough lobbies to know what you're talking about
@@dante16g5 it is very easy to counterplay it’s called stop using radar as a crutch and listen to your surroundings play with your team the way PvP is supposed to go. When they disengage the only way you’re punished is by continuing to engage. You stop the. They have to wait for their abilities to come back. I’ve seen high skill people utilize this build and still get killed in trials and comp. Learn to counter it it isn’t easy bjt the best builds shouldn’t be easy to counter imo.
@@Mysticbean54 maybe titans are least used in endgame pve but all I run into are titans in PvP. For every hunter I play there’s two prismatic or void titans running around. Bubble is still good in trials the axes are stupidly good in pvp. They have several one hit abilities and with the right fragment any melee kill spawns a stasis shard which if you have a brain is another free kill. Most teams I’ve played in the first 2 weeks of trials were prismatic and/or void titans and a prismatic warlock on the speaker mask. And that was in the flawless pool too yes there were hunters but just as many if not more titans. I’m not saying prismatic hunter isn’t good and a bit spammy it is but if you disengage it’s not hard to counter. Stop chasing after them cuz that feeds into the loop. Stop radar crutching and listen all 3 abilities make noise. All 3 abilities are proximity based so stop getting in the proximity and you won’t die to them it’s that simple. It’s not by any means a free kill even if you do land all 3 abilities what it does do is punish apes which is what PvP needed and still needs. It’s a skill issue.
Bro literally most of crucible hunters consist 50 percent of players. Titans and locks sometimes get their time to shine
Finally hunters have something to fight against the damage blocking, one hit punching gorillas
The thing is… it already has the ensaring slam cd penalty. I swear cc don’t even know the game they are playing
Why tf are you even talking about hunters changes when titans are absolute dumpster fire
its a nerf not a buff and he was asked a question in his Twitch chat
PvP wise I agree, also people complaining about how hard to kill a Hunter in their arc super must forget that you can just stack DR ontop of DR. Pretty sure you could survive a marital dispute with an arc class
I digress though, i do think the distance covered should be nerfed.
The difference is there is no counter play to the Arc Teleport.
You can't shoot them down. You can't escape the AoE. You can't set a trap and kill them when they approach unless you're also a hunter with every ability up. You can't even block the knife with Bannershield which ABSOLUTELY should work.
The only work around is to ALWAYS 1shot the Hunter with a special weapon on every encounter.
@@leonalchamendris4036 As long as the knife doesn't land on you then you can literally blink away from it or jump. The aoe is horizontal, not vertical. If the blade hits you, then you die and you should die from it in that case.
@dannybuckles2070 I agree that you SHOULD be able to. But as stated, should and can are not the same in this case. The correct answer is to remove DR from the activation but only take the super after the first teleport, like Well only loses super once the sword is planted.
A long range teleporting instant kill super SHOULD NOT have the same DR as literally Thundercrash. It's just a straight superior Arc Titan super in every way for PvP.
Weavers call, frost pulse, arc souls, hellion, child of the old gods, bastion, juggernaut, drengers lash, threaded specter, ensnaring slam, vanishingstep, and winters shroud should all have a downside since it buffs your class ability tremendously. Whether it be freezing someone, suspending them, giving overshields, or calling in literal battle buddies. None of them should have the uptime they do they all need to be cut in half for the PvP sandbox. As well as anything that gives you more class ability or another ability. Like sixth coyote, claws of ahmkara, spine of ahmkara, Starfire protocol, those boots that buff drengers lash on Titan, kehpris horn, speakers sight. The list could honestly go on, but those exotica should not give you more ability uptime on crucible they create a unbalanced sandbox with high ability uptime and less gunplay.
Yeah but only nerf that in pvp because it doesn’t need that in Pve. As soon as hunters have some sort of ability or playstyle people don’t like they cry about it. Whenever it’s titans or warlocks though there’s an outrage whenever they get a nerf
Nah let's talk about titan. They gave us all the crystal based stasis stuff. Grenade, super, and the class item roles with hoarfrost. Can't shatter them easily tho. Replace diamond lance with glacioclasm and call it gold there
And give Titans more long range burst damage. The axes are fine, but still way too slow compared to other classes burst damage
Imo, the best thing they could do is let killing the clone activate a damage perk like a stasis turret, and have stuff like hakke breach armaments be capable of breaking it without making an explosion or releasing threadlings.
They should learn to keep sandboxes separate. This would tank builds in PvE which I enjoy 100000x more than PvP with an already limited fanbase. Hunters are finally the top pick and people just wanna tank em
did you just say PvE has a limited fanbase? are you a real person?
@@cIosure are you a fucking troll lmfao I said PVP with an already limited fanbase quit fishin for drama and get a life
Damn people really hate hunters having fun
I'm glad hunters are having fun but the issue is hunters are making the other classes useless. Hunters dominate so hard in literally every possible situation. Boss dps, ad clear, melee builds, survivability, pvp, grand master. They are simply way to strong. Especially in pvp where it's getting to the point of being unplayable.
@@DailyGoodJob I mean that's more the player than the class cause titans are LITERALLY built for survivability. Outside of pvp what good is having high mobility
@jamesford871 True, but still, hunters need to either be toned down a bit or titans need a MASSIVE buff or rework, warlocks are alright, but a tiny buff wouldn't be bad.
@@DailyGoodJob warlocks need starfire protocol back
@jamesford871 they should honestly replace strand aspect on titan aspect for either banner or storm Melee one. And the unbreakable void one for Bastion. Then replace abyent leap on exotic class item for acd feedback or for pure chaos replace it with worm god. But yeah titans are desperate for anything at this point. Warlocks just the be useful other than well duty
This is probably the only staple in hunter playstile, because they nerfed everything else...
You hit a hunter and the first thing they do is dodge into clone. Every time. Heck you look at them the wrong way they dodge. It’s always freaking up!
I thought threaded specter in pvp had like a 50% cooldown debuff. Knowing bungie, they'll just nerf gamblers dodge again. We used to have 9 second dodges, and people actually used dragons shadow. Now it's a dead exotic. Nerf the aspect, but if you could just give me some semblance of a reason to use these dead exotics, it'd be nice.
So long as this is only a PVP change, go for it. But it won't be, and pvp crybabies will yet again ruin something in pve too.
Stop asking Bungie to nerf shit and start telling them to buff the others glasses instead.
200%
@JohnLee-kl4tc I'd say in this case a little bit of both would be awesome. Hit prismatic hunter a little but and retune all the light subclasses
I am always using arc melee so the dodge is just always available.
As a hunter, I hate fighting prismatic hunters because bungo just gave all the annoying (or newly buffed) abilities to us in one subclass and it’s way too easy and free. I wish we could go back to a time of shitting on titans for being shotty apes and not have to win every gunfight with guerrilla tactics
That ain't gonna happen, remember that especially in the crucible Hunters are using mask of Bakris and in order to use their class ability they already have to wait more because of the debuff that Bakris gives them when they use this exotic so that kind of nerf makes no sense.
Hunters got all this great stuff, not knowing how annoying they are to go against, then when i one shot melee them and diamond lance them they friend me, call me dogshit and unfriend so they get the last word💀
Still haven’t figured out how to get rid of aim assist on console so you get shafted every time someone sits behind a clone
Increase all the ability cooldowns. Having a smoke, specter, slow on dodge, damage resist and grenade that can all come back with nearly every engagement is asinine
If bungie ever adds pvp based exotics into the class item rolls its over.
I know there are some "pvp" exotics in there already (ophidian, sixth coyote, etc) but I mean like Gemini's, Tranversives, AC/DO feedback fence
Actually it’s a 3rd as Often ; base timer is roughly a minute compared to 3 minutes
If to remove that, maybe remove titan wall or make it can be destroy by 1 hit? And put heal rift last for 1 second? They are all op
Not even close lmfao, rift and wall are limited to making you stay in one spot and do an animation just to be barrel stuffed by literally anyone with half a brain
In hardcore run threaded specter with sixth coyote.
The double clone makes me a monster lol
Hunters dominate so hard in everything there is literally no point in playing anything other than hunter, or unless you need a well for the very slighy usefulness it is now.
How about fuck no, cause the hunter class Stat is the most useless in endgame content, so we can't spec into Mobility really to reduce the cooldown cause we gotta run Resil all damn day
Threaded specter is op asf, for being so free its crazy how powerful it is. Its so crutch and it needs to be nerfed into oblivion.
I think if they stop controllers sticking to them i would have 0 problems fighting a hunter
Yeah no kidding
The funny thing is it only has aim assist because controller players complained they were hard to shoot😂
Agree 100 percent
here is how to play against the clone and the smoke bomb run a gun with threat detector that's it if you pull out you threat detector gun (info stick) and don't see the perk proc congrats its a clone or a smoke. as for the controller sticking ether have a way to destroy the clone immediately or just don't fight the hunter when they are next to their clone
Clones: Remove aim assist from them and increase the cooldown penalty to match Warlock Rifts. Buff them in PvE by a bunch to compensate this.
Slow Dodge: Remove Damage resist against players (it currently gives 25% DR for 4 seconds after use).
Smokes: Remove the movement crippling effect, again, only against players (also a good excuse to buff Nightstalker in it's less than great areas).
Swarm Grenades: They needed a buff, but it's turning out a bit too much, partially walk back those buffs.
Storm's Edge: Drastically reduce the range on the spin attack. Drastically increase PvE damage.
Never cook again
@@galendetta2334😂 yea hes going straight to prison with that one
This guys definitely a titans main, if they did half of these things prismatic hunter would be useless
Wait, Hinters dont have a clone dodge increase on cooldown? Seems kind of unfair
Imo hunters only have a dodge titans get a shield thay can block damage or give an overshield and warlocks get a rift that heals and can potentially give an overshield
Mobility should increase how fast your ability animation speed excluding supers
I have not died to a Hunter clone enough for it to warrent a change. Its just part of the game now, and really isnt that big of a threat.
You fall for clone - you ignore clone - you watch other flanks. Problem solved.
If the clone is a problem, so is the warlock arc buddy lowering the ttk of every weapon they use, in almost any engagement...but theyre not really a big issue because good players dont use them.
Yeah, I've seen that a lot. People complaining about constantly shooting the clones, like after the first shot. Just stop and re aim on the hunter that's barely out of the animation by then. It's a free kill if you time it right
Or just give titans back the oversheild. There's perks ect that can deal with all that now
I’ve been hearing things about bungie having a PvP team but I’ve yet to see any proof of that or they are completely delusional
Iron banner has just been threaded spectre and smoke, from hunters. It’s become so annoying I can’t actually play titan without feeling like I’m at a huge disadvantage
You forgot the swarm grenades
Bro if you think playing titan puts you at a disadvantage you’re genuinely terrible, whenever I want easy wins I switch to Titan lmao
@@killclip6449 2.5kd is terrible? Playing against good players who use an abundance of abilities that disorients and damages you is genuinely annoying. I go to engage in a fight and now I’m slowed, severed and scorched, not a single way you survive that
Dodge should have had a time close to titan and warlcok class ability. for years not just now hah
yeah, but nerfing hunter specifically for crucible makes a lot of good hunter builds in pve obsolete
No kidding lol
if they doubled the cooldown and it also affected PvE only Prismatic Hunter with Combination blow would be able to run it.
While Strand Hunter would fall even further down than he already is :S
I'd wish Bungie could just seperate the PvP and PvE nerfs :S
@@TwinGamer64they do know holy shit destinys community is just retarded
That’s not a good fix. People will still choose the clone dodge
Still love the expansion. Hope they master balancing prismatic at some point. Otherwise there’s gonna be one class, it’ll get boring, and no one will have fun anymore
How about instead of nerfing the hunter or hunter aspect again, nerf six coyote? Second dogde and reaper for free ? Thats where the true problem lies
The problem is how to nerf something that simply gives a 2nd charge to an ability.
Again? Mate, hunters don't get nerfed at all. Warlock get broken stuff like this build and more then 50% complain about it gets nerfed in an instant. Titan doesn't get nerfed either.
@sourwolfbane this whole comment is cap. Every class has gotten big nerfs over the years. Titans have probably gotten more nerfs than hunters and warlocks combined
@@sourwolfbane bruh, all the classes get hit when something is too strong. some classes also keep things that are insanely strong as well, like how Icarus dash is still insanely op for movement or how over shields have remained strong with bastion on titans. I'm sure they will tune prism hunter, speaker helm, and knock out diamond lance. How they tune them is whats worrying. as someone who plays all three classes and likes going flawless a couple times a week i would hate to see them killed because of some youtuber saying they are too strong especially since the nerf he wants is already a thing, they did exactly what he said a while back to strand and the change did carry over, im not sure why he doesnt know that tho. btw the clone problem isn't even that big of a deal, i think if they made smoke bomb not slow in pvp and the super less glitchy i wouldnt even mind the class so much. if anything speaker helm is way more of a problem.
@@Lv6_Esper your comment is cap. warlocks have always had their stuff nerfed in a couple of days of it being to powerful. titans feel that way now due to them not being a viable option for the new raid for dps. warlocks don't have anything really except for the transcendence now. which exotic again was nerfed first off the list again, oh that was a warlocks. plus warlocks right now do not have a broken exotic that double a supers damage out put like the titan and hunter.
I main a Hunter, Gunslinger 99.9% of the time, and even Im tired of all the clones everywhere.
It already does that...the did that nerf back in lightfall...and prez has nothing to do with it because ppl have been using this build with 6th coyote to have two clones b4 prez came out...oh and the nerfed the aim assist the clones have back then also
They should not let people use prismatic in pvp at all because of the builds you can make are ridiculous against a 100hp it should only be pve orientated since you ts such an mmo subclass coming from a Faceit player and d1 wagers in competitive environments that have gentlemen’s agreements
Agree. Give it the Bakris treatment 100%.
I hadn't played crucible in a while, came back for IB pinnacles. Fucking clones everywhere 😂 Its literally too effective.
Idc about the timer just dont get them god mode when the dodge with this thats all
Only in PVP. They nerf it in PvE im not plsying anymore. Balance of power is the only hunter i really enjoy.
Nah man, it would negatively impact pve players for no reason lmao
So if they nuke dodge let us one hit melee like titan can
specter already has a cooldown penalty so long as the clone is alive. makes class ability regen nearly 0 while clone is alive
Which is irrelevant in most fights given that hunters panic pop the Specter at close range and have it pop immediately when you were already shooting in their direction
That's a horrible nerf for pve
Yall need to chill nerf this nerf that stfu. 😂
We found someone who crutches this
@Vysedragon I don't even play pvp like that. Nor do I even use the exotic tied to it, let people enjoy shit for awhile just like everyone enjoyed joutun for awhile. Garbage ass gun btw
@@skylerfaust8084 you have zero room to speak then, especially when it comes to nerfs that effect PvP.
@Vysedragon has it seriously come to telling people they have no privilege in speaking on a topic in a video game. You need to focus on something else in life legitimately. Let people enjoy it for awhile. Your just the most sorry person I've ever spoken too btw, have a great day
@@skylerfaust8084 yes you are someone who doesn’t play PVP you have zero rights to speak on something you don’t have any experience with. Just keep your mouth shut virgin
I love getting smokebombed constantly, searching for hunters just to find a clone while they already have their abilities crouched in a corner