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- Dr James Grime discusses ancestry and why we ALL have royal blood. See also our new video on family extinction at: • Will your name become ...
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Can you somehow interview Mr Perelman?
5:59 I spotted same-gender marriage ... with kids 😂
Probably related to everyone but the hapsberg line cous we all know they didn't look very far for mates if you catch my drift...
Can someone have two biological mothers? What if someone has a child with an alien?
@@heliocentric1756 Accidents happen? ;)
It's always nice to see my distant cousins making great video's!
@Sandcastle • My not so distant cousin does that sometimes!
@Sandcastle • I do that sometimes
I think it’s nice to see my distant cousins back each other up.
Hi fam
Now that I think about it, we all are at some point distant relatives of people like Albert Einstein or Abraham Lincoln.
Though, that could mean that we are also distant relatives of Hitler so...
"Mommy, how are babies born?"
Mother: "We roll dice and a baby appears."
Keeping it family friendly.
You got that backwards. That's how parents are born.
Actually, babies are born based on your charisma roll
Playing a bit of d&d in bed. Now I know why some people are so against d&d. Bunch of prudes
*This is what mathmaticians actually believe
My Uncle was very proud of the the fact that he was 8,527 in line to be the King of England ,if people died in a specific order. He got depressed when someone died in the wrong order and he went up to well over 12,000 in line. He said he now had no real chance.
"died in the wrong order" huh?
@@demonking86420 Yes so depressing!
i think it would be the funniest detective show ever if it turned out someone was killing 8527 people in a specific order so they could become king
@@davevaness4172😮
If you're 8,527th in line to the throne, it shouldn't matter if someone further down the line dies. Your position in the line of succession remains the same. It only changes if someone higher up the totem pole than you dies, in which case, you get bumped up a spot to 8,526th.
The way this man pronounces sloth is so unimaginably British I started crying tea
aaahaahahahahahaaaaa
You made me laugh
LOL
When did he say?
@@MichaelSotoCE 18:23
Great, I'll tell Elizabeth that I'm moving in next week.
not anymore...
not anymore...
??
@@Triantalex what happened to QE? that's a little hint for you.
"Virgin birth once every 2000 years"
I see what you did there Brady
tricky
Hahaha. Funniest line ive heard in awhile!
That doesn't make any sense though because there wasn't another virgin birth in the year 2000, either real or religious
@Superstar Banana Mix
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?!?!?!
@@jamirimaj6880 I feel like we would have heard about it by now.
"Everyone has 8 great grandparents"
*Charles II has left the chat*
*of Spain
There are still 8 great grandparents, just not necessarily 8 different people. LOL. Some repeats
*House of Habsburg is typing...*
*Ptolemaics are typing*
Not true. Charles II had 8 separate great grandparents.
On his father's side he had Phillip II, Anne of Austria, Charles II, and Maria Anna of Bavaria (1551-1608).
On his mother's side he had Phillip III, Margarita of Austria,. Ferdinand II, and Maria Anna of Bavaria, (1574-1616).
That is 8 separate people.
The only name that shows up twice is Maria Anna of Bavaria, and those were two different Maria Anna's of Bavaria since they were born in different years and died in different years.
Phillip III may have been his grandfather on his father's side and his great-grandfather on his mother's side, but he still nevertheless did not have a great-grandparent on his mother's side who was also his great-grandparent on his father's side.
So he still technically had 8 different great-grandparents.
Some of those were also his grandparents, but he still did ultimately have eight great-grandparents in total.
"Only 3 generations for everyone to be related."
Welcome to Wales
”Only 1 generation for everyone to be related.”
Welcome to Texas
“Everyone is related.”
Welcome to Alabama
Move to a rural county in USA, I learned that when I started teaching, everyone is related.
@@vernie7882 *Pakistan
"Everyone is the same person."
Welcome to China
Who cares about being royal? A ton of us are related to James Grime.
*And* Matt Parker!
*AND* Hannah Fry!
@@mattsadventureswithart5764 maybe it's just a parker relation
kdawg3484 Even my dog is.
I never understood why people care so much about them. They're a relic of the past, and basically it's just a rich family that doesn't have to do anything, and get praised for it.
They pretty much just won the human lottery, basically.
I am NOT hosting the next family dinner!
I know, it's your cousin.
if you do host us please remember your most fancy dinner ware set because we are all royalty...LOL
@@Lillith. which one?
@@timgheys can't spell his name, it's Arabic. I believe he lives in Yemen near the border with Oman.
@@Lillith. Hmmm. No. Not even close.
Who has more desendants than Genghus Khan?
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Genghus Khans Dad.
someone from Africa the birthplace of humanity
A mouse from the Cretaceous period
A veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery small single-celled organism 2 billion years ago.
Antonio Cromartie?
NeilIsBored How about 4 billion years ago.
I love that it's in James' nature to draw the whole thing out, I feel like someone like Matt Parker would program something in python and animate it.
8:04
'People like you and me are never gonna marry..'
*Confused look*
'a princess'
*LGBT community has left the chat*
I believe in you, Brady! You’re totally gonna marry a princess!
Unless he suddenly starts practicing polygamy, I've got some bad news for you...
@@crazycolbster
by the logic of this video, isn't he already married to a princess, then?
Genghis Khan: I have 16 million direct descendants!
Some random Zhou dynasty citizen: cool, I have 7 billion
lol
Adam and Eve: Am I a joke to you?
@@D4rk3clipse Reply: no, just a fable.
@@jellyfishi_ Nah, it's pretty much a fable. It's a nice story, but just a story.
@@PGraveDigger1 yeah, humans didn't just appear out of nowhere, evolution did it
Everytime a baby is born James rolls his dice.
😂😂
*Everytime James rolls his dice, a baby is born.
@@matttondr9282 no, he determined the baby's parents with dice, not the child
I moved to Australia 8 years ago and I though I was the only person in my family over here. I got a job as a cook in a small town and was talking to the sous chef. My family lived in England for 3 generations and before that my ancestry is wales. Well it turns out my sous chefs ancestry was also welsh about 4 years ago and they lived in the next town over from my ancestors (literally just 2-3km away) so we’re most likely related within 6 generations
There could very well be a descendant of a great great great great great great great great great great grandparent or uncle that was shipped off to Australia when it was a penal colony. A little farther removed than your example but I bet you have some very distant relatives living in Australia.
I asked this question on Stack Exchange a few months ago, and nobody had the answer. Numberphile with the win! Thank you!
"That's such a beautiful sentiment to end with." [video immediately ends]
Why do these things really get my funny bone?! 😄Lol!!
0.001 seconds to think about that beautiful sentiment
*talks about how we're all slightly inbred*
"but that doesn't show that we're all descended from royalty" - it doesn't, but it's always a sign that you're getting close
"Virgin birth every 2000 years"
"Let's imagine free movement in Europe"
I did not expect such scathing burns in a maths video
@CogitoErgoCogitoSum Low quality bait. Come on man
@LucruxDCLXVI Agreed - low effort trolling. Anyone who falls for this guy's trollbait is a smooth brained buffoon.
That's not virgin birth but Homosexual birth.
@@rs-tarxvfz Aight, care to explain how that'd work? asking for a friend.
@@rs-tarxvfz Yeah please do I´ve been trying to get preggos from my bf but his manjuice always comes out of my boipussy when i am going on the shitter.
Can we just take a minute to appreciate how Brady asks questions that usually seem to surprise his guests with his insight?
Honestly one of the more impressive things about these channels is how Brady can ask smart questions about subjects he's only learned about an hour ago
M McCoy He is a journalist after all
We touched on this in one of my genetics classes. We also brought up the idea of ghost ancestors, people in your family tree whom you did not end up inheriting any DNA from, which I think is a bit trippy and a bit sad.
Woah, you just blew my mind. 😮 I’d never considered that before! I wonder how far back you have to go before that becomes possible?
@@bowietwombly5951 "Possible" or "probable?" You have half the genome from each of your parents, who each got half from each of their parents. While astronomically improbable, it is possible for you to get from a parent exactly the half they got from one of their parents and none from the other, in which case you'd have zero genetic inheritance from a grandparent.
"And so, I checked all the registered historical facts
And I was shocked into shame to discover
How I'm the eighteenth pale descendant
Of some old queen or other"
So 7000 years ago, they are all my ancestors. But presumably, some of them (the ones that look like more like me) are my ancestors several hundred times over whereas some of them are my ancestor only once.
Actually you left out the part where many of them are not related to you, its just that they are also not related to anyone else alive today. Otherwise, yeah you probably have more ways your related to some people than others (whom your related to) from 7,000 years ago. As they said though this modal is somewhat limited when referring to large populations where movement is restricted. For example we know that in Europe most people are related to Neanderthals with about 3% dna from them, while in Asia only 1%-2%, and in Africa almost none. That would imply that some amount of Europeans from only 7,000 are probably are not the ancestors of most of today Africans. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something (could be that dna reading technology is just too poor to identify these weak relationships like the one time connection you were mentioning).
You could continue this series for all of the animal kingdom. It would probably be billions of years ago but still
@@aceman0000099 Yes, we actually know many of these transitional species and many of the original ancestral species as well.
@@rdizzy1 yeah obviously but that's not exactly what I mean
@@brcoutme 7000 years is about 200 generations so you would have 2^200 ancestors (including the duplicates) from that generation. The number is so much larger than the world's population, you can't even begin to think in terms of a percentage of DNA. For Neanderthals we are going back another thousand generations before that. If you consider the spread of Islam and Christianity through Africa, it's not hard to imagine them having some European and Middle Eastern ancestors.
This is the type of positivity I need.
? how is this positive? I doubt the majority of the women had a choice in the matter. Being raped by a stranger or your boss is not a positive act.
@@tomservo5007 what
No, the real message is: "If you reproduce, you will be an ancestor of everyone in the future. If you don't reproduce, you will be an ancestor of no one in the future. Therefore if you don't reproduce then you have no reason to care about anyone in any way whatsoever, no matter what."
*Genghis Khan is typing...*
*House of Habsburg has joined the chat*
*Alabama has liked this post*
Arkansas family tree is a 2x4 from lowes, no branches and kinda twisted
this was brilliantly explained in plain language. I've been struggling as a population geneticist to explain to my students how to easily grasp the concept 'time to most recent common ancestor' from the N, this nails it.
More like a Family Mycelium than a Family Tree
A family spaghetti
It's a family soup
As a mycophile, I can't believe I've been using "inosculated family tree" to describe it!🧐🍄😆
I absolutely love Dr James Grime! Thanks, Numberphile
This was both astounding and deeply moving.
Actually there's another problem with the model. Let's imagine individuals 1,2 and 3 have the respective parents (1,2), (2,3), and (1,3). If parents 1 and 2 have been able to make a child, as well as parents 2 and 3, then parents 1 and 3 could not have been able to reproduce. I wonder if it impacts the model a lot or if it disappears for large population sizes...
I’m pretty sure the 6 person thing is a HUGE simplification (so the dice works and we can actually draw it) to simply understand the model. You have to imagine this with millions of people, much more complicated connections and those issues being eliminated.
Just add a gender mechanic
-inb4 triggered sjw's-
You could "solve" this problem by saying that each number actually represents a gender pair of siblings (one male one female)...
.............
Actually let's not do that. Let's not do that at all.
I think it matters, but it matters less than the other issues (like for example that people stayed in there village over generations in medieval times - the probability to marry a person in your town was more than 1000 times bigger than marrying sb from another country)
@@unfetteredparacosmian hehehe it's funny cuz
wait
why would the SJWs get triggered over this? I'd think the Christian right would be much less happy.
*plot twist*
Everyone that appeared in Numberphile is related in a way
Exceptionally well done,. You spioke to two things that I enjoy very much: genealogy and mathematics. Btw, my own parents have a common ancestor about 400 years based on what I can document today.
You guys are AMAZING! Great work and always fun at the same time!
The world's most recent common ancestor is from East Asia? Soo... Genghis Kahn?
I think it was in 200 bce from the coast of south east Asia but still that man did spread his seed.
How do you know that? Can you share any sources?
Everyone whose family has been in Europe for more than a handful of generations is (almost certainly) descended from Genghis Khan. Most of Asia too though it's a bit more complicated there.
He, Reiter - ho, Leute - he, Reiter, immer weiter...
@@agfd5659 sources of his seed? don't you know about that stuff yet?
so if everyone's related...
**sweet home Alabama starts playing**
MadeForMario Well someone had to make up for Genghis Kahn to not mess up the nice mathematical model.
this meme needs to stop, it is hurtful and not funny.
@@heyandy889 let me guess, you're from Alabama?
@@madeformario Nope. Midwest. I just don't think it's funny to make fun of an entire state for something as rare and repulsive as incest.
It's funny because incest is legal in Rhode Island, barring marriage, but a felony in Alabama.
"Everyone has four grandparents"
I know a few people that certainly don't....
They didn't directly mention it, but that's where the ancestors with multiple numbers come into play.
@@Funkopedia they said that
I recently found a couple in my line who were children of twin sisters, married out of state, where it was probably more legal,,,,
Growing up I had a friend whose mother was from England, and his father was from Texas, and he was growing up in California.
Let's imagine there is free movement in Europe... haha XD
Except the UK
Because *Brexit*
@@firefish111 That's the joke :P
Let's not.
Nigel Farage got triggered.
Too soon
"If we were talking about a population of millions, then [virgin births] aren't going to happen"
"Once every 2000 years maybe"
There are very few things that make me chuckle like a Numberphile video cutting right after Brady tries to make a joke.
I may just be ignorant, but I don’t get the joke
Kapil Kakodkar Biblical Mary
Too bad joke is incorrect. If you have larger population then virgin birth per person is less likely but you have much more birth events per generation balancing the probability. virgin birth per person is 1/n but to get probability for no virgin birth per generation you need to calculate (1-1/n)^n which would mean about 37% chance for no virgin birth in a large population.
@@suokkos Your formula is right (assuming consistently sized generations), but your conclusion is a bit off. For positive integers, (1-1/n)^n starts at 0.25 (n=2, the smallest generation size for which this discussion is meaningful). As you say, the limit of f(n) is ~= a 36.7879% chance (1/e) of no virgin births in an arbitrarily large population. This means that population size increasing DOES slightly decrease the chances per generation (although in all cases it's still more likely than not).
@@SellymeYT , It does slightly decrees but clear decrees happens only for a few smallest and after that probability of no virgin birth is growing only very slightly with population size growth. So population size 6 is already close to same as population size of a million where both except to see no virgin birth approximately every 3rd year.
I was thinking about this for so long!! So glad i found this video!!
Really love it.And the ending too!
This video really puts things into perspective. Thank you again Numberphile for your content.
He missed the opportunity after the Virgin birth comment to say, "let's just roll with this."
wdym by that? sorry, non-native English speaker here
@@jamirimaj6880 He is rolling dice to create his chart. The expression "roll with" means to go along with something unexpected, to adapt to it. So, he could have made a pun by saying, "Let's just roll with this [roll]."
I love this guy, need more vids and teachers like him with his humour and enthusiasm. He just knows his shit.
Amazing! Thank you, my great-grand-cousins for making this video.
“We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically.”
― Neil DeGrasse Tyson
haha yes so let's all be nihilists nothing in life matters anyway we're just atoms floating around on a rock
To back holes... uh... we have matter?
@@ivar185 We are. We construct our own meaning in life. Nihilsm isn't saying that there's no meaning in life, it says there's no intrinsic/inherent meaning in life.
That quote James ended on is just the perfect argument against tribalism and racism :) In the end, we are all just people, shaped by our past, so no reason to spread hate.
I love james! Hes barely changed at all since his first few videos YEARS back, he looks exactly the same!
"a beautiful sentiment to end with"
*VIDEO ENDS*
Thank you numberphile for fulfilling the service of teaching and inspiring. It is very awesome to get to have new perspectives in life because passionate inspired souls put in the work and dedication to bring it to the uninformed. Thank you for your channel and the work you do.
Well said.
This is so great to see! My grandfather was very into our ancestry, and he did a family tree for all of his grandkids, and concluded that I was a descendent of Charlemagne. I love that it's also the statistically likely outcome 😂
Whenever I think about our most recent common ancestor, I just think about places like north sentinel island where they have not contacted any other people for thousands of years and basically how insane it is that we all were together at one point, and then some people left and apparently just forgot there were more of us
I also really appreciate the humor in this episode.
And looking toward the future in this way is simultaneously awe-inspiring and terrifying. (I do not want my family to die out - especially if I am the reason for that!)
JAMES IS BACK
Brilliant !! Thanks so much !! In 1904 people tried to explain this to Tsar Nicolas II, but he got angry...
I think they didn't know about his is 1904
Whoa that ending sentiment is awesome!
I want to time travel far into the future when I've become everyone's ancestor.
Getting a little ahead of yourself, are you? There are no guarantees, and certainly not in this regard.
Kids, what have we learned today? It's impossible to escape incest.
And if we tried to we'd go extinct in less than 33 generations.
Lol!!
CogitoErgoCogitoSum
What bothers me more than your bad bait is your name. That second cogito is just- wrong
The alternative to invest is bestiality.
@@gvigary1 I´ve heard of diversifying your investments but this seems a step to far :D
I am very happy to meet u sir.
I belonge to royal family
+I am very happy to meet u sir.
+I belonge to royal family
-Ohh. Which one?
+Which ever you like
What a coincidence!
Me too!
Wow!.. what an amazing episode.👍
I’m not so sure about this. A lot of populations have been very isolated.
The true point would be the generation before the first migration
But they got there from somewhere.
You don't think humans just popped up in random places right?
I was checking the comments to see if anyone else thought this because clearly not “everyone” is a “royal” descendant. There are very isolated indigenous peoples all around the world.
Royalty is a cultural concept that is relatively recent in human history, and it wasn't recognized by all cultures.
Well many indigenous groups, (especially the younger generations of today) are far less isolated.
Oh, THAT is why god does not play dice anymore.
**rolls dice** "Aaaand this one get's to... oh.. no that is awkward. Errmmm, I did not think that one through, did I? Well, honesty might be the best course of action here. Gabriel? Could you be so kind to go down there and tell that woman, I kinda fucked things up? Yes, quickly please. NO, don't tell her *I* fu..., GABRIEL! ... Darned dice..."
I love you, sir.
Lol
This needs to be pinned
Considering the long isolation of the Aboriginals and that it's been a while since there was a land bridge between Asia and American, it seems pretty unlikely the most common recent ancestor lived only a few hundred to a few thousand years ago.
I agree. I see the math but but it doesn't seem to match reality 100%.
@@dfmayes actually this proves the biblical timeline of earth's history
Its kinda funny tho becuase it means at any point of migration
If its before time of all common ancestors
Was the true all common ancestors
Sing everyone that left was part of the breeding population till that point
Except that the Aboriginals and Native Americans of today likely share ancestry with people from other continents. Considering that the Americas were discovered in 1492 and Australia was discovered in 1770, there's been a lot of time for ancestral lines to mix. It wouldn't even have to be much: just a single ancestor from another continent would make them directly descended from the most recent common ancestor.
what about sentinel island? I don't think 7000 years are enough fkr a single common ancestor between us and them
A very beautiful lesson.
Catchy title, excellent lecture. Thank you.
dear cousins, what a lovely video! how I love maths and their prophets.
I'm descended from King Edward III too, but that's not surprising. Pretty much everyone with English ancestry is.
Love your work !
That is a gorgeous sentiment to end.
OMG notification for this video came the same minute the news notification came out. Well played 😂
100% chance that was intentional.
Of course it was intentional. That’s why I wrote “well played”.
@Terry White While I'm not a citizen of the United Kingdom, I have looked into the studies of the costs of England's royal family vs. the costs of giving them back the property they've lent to the nation in exchange for their position and pay as well as the studies of how much they pull in in tourism money. They seem to be a net benefit to the UK, at least from a monetary point of view. They cost **much** less than they bring in to the government and the cost (in government property that would suddenly belong to the Windsor family instead) would be quite detrimental to a UK going through the own goal that is Brexit.
@Terry White tiocfaidh ar la
@Terry White Being condescending and ignorant is never an attractive trait either, yet you seem to be very fond of it.
Were also all related to Neanderthals
This is by far the most awe inspiring video I've seen in quite some time. Just one remark though: if you apply the model to generations of, say, 1.000.000 people, it is true that virgin births become rarer, but you will still expect one per generation, so they will keep occurring.
I actually talked about this exact topic to my brother like a month ago, basically saying that if we all have 2 parents and the population was much smaller in the past we are all related if we go back a certain number of generations. I find this really interesting and I actually worked on the genealogy of my family and could find ancestors through a direct lineage as early as the 10th century
Radio 4 More or Less concluded that by the time Jesus was born, every single child in Judea was descend from King David.
Thanks to king Salamon, it might only have been 5 or 6 generations
Interesting. Guess that would mean the rabbis of that age were right in saying that anyone could be the long awaited “son of david.”
They mostly only considered the male line, though. Mary may have been an exception.
To all my cousins : have a great day
I've been trying to think of mathematical models for genealogies because of the book _Sapiens._ This video came at the right time!
That's strangely inspiring. Especially at 4:25am when I'm watching this
I don't think everyone is related to the von Habsburgs, their family tree is a family circle
No no, it's a family wreath.
Numberphile destroys the English Monarchy with FACTS and LOGIC!1! (Number 6 will have you shocked)
Number 6, is that a Prisoner reference? If so, then who is the "New Number Two"?
@@BlackfeatherTanfur To be honest, the choice of number was entirely arbitrary. The "Number 6 will have you shocked!" part is just part of me referencing clickbait list articles that would often have outrageous or garish titles like "6 ways you can solve all your problems (Number 2 will shock you!)" or "5 ways to know you're a genius (Number 3 is bonkers!).
Continuing in the vein of clickbait titles, the initial part of my comment is referencing rather tasteless youtube videos that would have titles like "creationists (Though it could just as easily be Feminists, leftist, snowflakes, etc.) absolutely destroyed with Facts and Logic
Though I am now curious what the "prisoner" you're talking about is
Grimes! Fav Numberphile guy!!!
I'm directly related to Robert the Bruce! And actually, as a Canadian with very mixed heritage, I was surprised to find out that my 100% ethnically Norwegian maternal grandfather and my Scottish x Irish x French x Native North American maternal grandmother were each, within 8 generations back, ancestrally from the same farming community in Troms.
I was trying to explained my nephew why he should'nt act so entitled to things, like he is some kind of king or something. Now I don't know what to tell him...
What's up my fellow brothers and sisters
Hi from Georgia, I saw our king there, david IV the builder... Thanks I felt so proud!
this video is so powerful
This excites me enough to bore other people with my weird knowledge
same
[9:37] "Once every 2000 years"
I see what you did there.
Ye olden times -> NOW. Brilliant, yet subtle touch. Never stop doing such stuff just because most people will not notice. Some will and they usually love it ;)
This means we should all take care of each other and treat everyone the same cause nobodys better then the other
I have one parent from Iceland(my father) and my other parent is from Australia(my mother), I guess it is real life
Well, I'm just happy that I'm related to Keanu Reeves.
Great video, 26th cousin!
Nice job fam
He displays his artwork like I do. Leaning against the wall like I'm getting ready to hang them.
-You've noticed that problem
Translation: You caught me with my hands on your tea.
lol XD
"Once every 2000 years". Man! That was genius.
That last sentence there, that just made me cry, it's so beautiful