Why David Cameron sacked Dominic Cummings twice

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  • čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
  • David Cameron has spoken to Matt Chorley in an exclusive interview with Times Radio.
    In the wide-ranging interview, Mr Cameron said during his time as PM, government pandemic planning "focused too much on a flu pandemic rather than on a respiratory disease pandemic", adding, "better work could have been done there."
    He also took a swipe at Dominic Cummings, Mr Johnson’s chief adviser, with whom he clashed when Mr Cummings worked for Mr Gove. “Well I did sack him twice but he kept coming back. We didn’t necessarily hit it off but he’s a man of great, I mean he’s very clever, he is very able.
    He said he would have attended COBRA meetings more quickly than Boris Johnson, telling Matt Chorley "there's something about the Prime Minister turning up that helps to drive decision making."
    Mr Cameron also warned that the Conservatives risked appearing less “socially inclusive and progressive” in pursuit of Brexit. He also revealed that he spent lockdown working in a food bank and that his daughter, Nancy, 16, is an environmental activist and wants him to cut down on meat.

Komentáře • 122

  • @joe94c
    @joe94c Před 3 lety +41

    David Cameron has a huge responsibility for a lot of chaos. Why are people now forgetting about this?

    • @javidag.l5595
      @javidag.l5595 Před 3 lety +5

      He will be remembered as a PM who gambled the nation

    • @RandomPerson-us5yl
      @RandomPerson-us5yl Před 3 lety +12

      As a democratic country, the PEOPLE voted for Brexit, not him. So if the people have a problem, they should blaming themselves, not him.

    • @RonWylie-gk5lc
      @RonWylie-gk5lc Před 3 lety +1

      @@RandomPerson-us5yl They need to blame themselves for voting for these cretins in the first place, pretend "statesman" all, he will be remembered for what he was, the most ineffectual PM in history

    • @rosecastle8709
      @rosecastle8709 Před 3 lety

      Exactly right joe Cunningham, seems lots of people have very short memories eh. 🙂

    • @spankysmp
      @spankysmp Před 3 lety

      @@javidag.l5595 and lost

  • @Skibadee99
    @Skibadee99 Před 3 lety +9

    21:20 your welcome

  • @laxeystu8096
    @laxeystu8096 Před 3 lety +11

    Still defends austerity - he may not have been only one, but growth would have been faster, and the deficit smaller, without them.

    • @laxeystu8096
      @laxeystu8096 Před 3 lety +2

      @Daniel Clark ClarkIt says in this report that both growth & deficit reduction were actually worse than the 2010 forecasts for what would happen if there was no austerity.
      The reasons for the cuts was fear that we would struggle to borrow more at the same low rates, but this did not turn out to be the case then.
      The current situation is worse (a crisis with higher debt & deficit), but the government will not attempt cuts to reduce the deficit, but will raise some tax and borrow for longer. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/in-responding-to-this-crisis-we-must-heed-the-lessons-of-austerity-gvkh8bskd

    • @justinwalpole8956
      @justinwalpole8956 Před 3 lety

      Our budget deficit was as large as Greece's, austerity in some form or another was completely necessary. However, you can definitely argue that he went to far with the austerity.

    • @laxeystu8096
      @laxeystu8096 Před 3 lety

      @@justinwalpole8956There is a view that comparing the UK economy with Greece was inappropriate - the UK was outside the Euro & is bigger/more diverse economy. (Structural deficit important when considering cuts?)
      The point made was the actual results after 5 years of austerity were less good than what was forecast in 2010 with no austerity at all.
      Was the actual level of cuts needed in 2010 quite small, and the Tories are accused of having a vision of a significantly smaller state, and using the crisis as cover to implement this?
      We're in a worse situation now, but are not going to attempt to close the deficit quickly again.

    • @danieltaylor1784
      @danieltaylor1784 Před 3 lety +1

      Whatever people's opinions I can say; I received a college and university education, was unemployed for 24 months, had two children with my partner and privately rented during Cameron's premiership. I received child benefit, tax credits, frankly ridiculous loan conditions for my education, housing allowance and a number of other bits of help along the way. Money was tight and I had to be proactive however I was thoroughly supported to become the self sufficient, tax paying father of two during a time 'austerity' was rife. I think people need to count there numerous blessings of living in a country that has safety nets left right and centre. The government doesn't owe you a living and I could literally see obese people queing at food banks in my local area. The irony of which was certainly lost on them 😆 It's not a bad life and personal responsibility and hard work are great things that go hand in hand with what's on offer in the uk

    • @laxeystu8096
      @laxeystu8096 Před 3 lety +2

      @@danieltaylor1784 That's great, and your personal account shows that even in what was a difficult time you succeeded (as did I).
      Politically, there're two issues- some people need help (not you perhaps), but the government says that it helps people, so does it?
      And, how well did the government actually manage the economy? They took office pledging sound economic management, and it wasn't terrible, but was it good?
      The public finances are in a worse state today than they were in 2009/10, but there'll be no return to austerity, suggestingit wasnt that successful.

  • @martinobrien7110
    @martinobrien7110 Před 2 lety +1

    Presumably pre Greensill .

  • @fritzhenning1
    @fritzhenning1 Před 2 lety +3

    Are you still lobbying your old mates?

  • @stevemitchell442
    @stevemitchell442 Před 2 lety +2

    Great to listen to I am not a Conservative but I think David Cameron was an excellent prime minister a very honest man and his best for the country I think he’s a great example to school kids in our country a man of integrity it’s a great shame here to go during that period but his quality stood out in so many ways Looking at the situation in today’s politics extremely shabby

  • @docastrov9013
    @docastrov9013 Před 3 lety +7

    Why does he say the referendum was "lost"? He gave a choice to the people and they made their decision.

    • @Doc959
      @Doc959 Před 3 lety +2

      Exactly. Referenda cannot be won or lost. They provide clarity of direction for the government as to which path they should take.

    • @robpaton1707
      @robpaton1707 Před 3 lety +7

      It was lost because the plebs were persuaded to make an idiotic decision based on xenophobic lies. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows it has sent the country backwards. Except of course jingoistic little englanders.

    • @laxeystu8096
      @laxeystu8096 Před 3 lety

      @@Doc959 It was lost because he initiated the referendum & led the campaign for one side, lost and in doing so ended his career.
      Referendums aren't used because leaders need guidance on what to do, or even suddenly want to ask the public, they're used to solve a problem which is usually a split party.

    • @Doc959
      @Doc959 Před 3 lety

      @@laxeystu8096 the refferendum was called in 2016 as it was the centre piece of Cameron's 2015 GE pledge. You are right though, refferenda are supposed to be given to the people to allow us to guide the government in serious policy changes. Often they are actually used to resolve split party issues so that our "representatives" can rule over us with a unifying ideology.

    • @Doc959
      @Doc959 Před 3 lety +2

      @@robpaton1707 absolutely right. We should have just proceeded as Blair did. Give greater powers to the EU in the UK, sign us up toward a goal of full integration and under no circumstances give the idot electorate any say in how their lives are run, as they'll only get in the way of the grand plan. Also if the electorate weren't all xenophobic little Englanders then they would have voluntarily have given up their fish and manufacturing and power production jobs so that less fortunate EU states could prosper (instead of having been forced to). After all, a high tide raises all ships. As the EU says, the UK always cherry picks and should be punished for taking steps to stop sharing their wealth. After all, the EU project badly needs it.

  • @Richard19551
    @Richard19551 Před 3 lety +2

    He is a very gracious and modest man. I disagree with him on some matters - Brexit, homosexual marriage, some other matters. But I think him honest, hard working, patriotic, always doing his best - I admire him greatly. I look forward very much to reading his memoir. He's eloquent, deep thinking and candid --it should be fascinating!

  • @djbethell
    @djbethell Před 3 lety +6

    Cameron did enough long-term, hardcore damage without the help of Cummings.

  • @mattford6903
    @mattford6903 Před 3 lety +24

    "We focused too much on a flu pandemic rather than a respiratory disease pandemic"
    Flu is a respiratory disease David.

    • @laxeystu8096
      @laxeystu8096 Před 3 lety +6

      To be fair he is pointing out the difference between the flu and SARS families of diseases which are different, AIUI, and the R stands for respiratory.
      Why a flu pandemic is characteristically different to a SARS one I don't know.

    • @robpaton1707
      @robpaton1707 Před 3 lety

      Oh look! A Facebook expert. 👍

    • @petermizon4344
      @petermizon4344 Před 3 lety

      What we are talkin about is Johnson and Trump locking down too late. Flu is from coronavirus family but this one has evolved or been altered to get rid of old people putting millions out if work so there will be a good pool workers who need jobs at work for peanuts hence they will have us competing with China called a race to the bottom. Tories out

    • @robertbrown-qf8xy
      @robertbrown-qf8xy Před 2 lety

      @@petermizon4344 wrong

  • @claireb9127
    @claireb9127 Před 3 lety +8

    Will always be grateful to Dave for giving us a referendum, good luck with the book Dave.

  • @philipswich29
    @philipswich29 Před 3 lety +4

    Respect for dc, for not joining the pile on 👏

  • @BengVideo
    @BengVideo Před 3 lety +5

    This guy literally made a mess and ditched

    • @DanRazaMusic
      @DanRazaMusic Před 2 lety

      Mess is a very kind way of putting it.

  • @Amanglophile
    @Amanglophile Před 2 lety +1

    Dishy Dave!!!!!

    • @angied8919
      @angied8919 Před 2 lety

      He's the cutest handsomest ex PM ever imo

  • @riyadhul-hoque6851
    @riyadhul-hoque6851 Před 3 lety +1

    Time stamps?

  • @elliotjones3324
    @elliotjones3324 Před 3 lety

    I benefited a lot from Cameron's government as a younger man, I liked him as PM as I thought he did what and to be done to build the economy back up. What disappointed me was the referendum, not the fact he called it- He was right to call it. It was the fact he downed tools and walked away instead of delivering on the result. I can't buy his book for that reason, it just seems wrong to line his already very deep pockets.

  • @jopieris5703
    @jopieris5703 Před 3 lety +2

    He got the idea to hold a referandom , we would not have one big problem less now

  • @ruthjackson4577
    @ruthjackson4577 Před 3 lety +4

    ALWAYS radio or photo with comment never in person WHY.

    •  Před 3 lety +1

      Take your meds.

    • @amandaknopp9032
      @amandaknopp9032 Před 3 lety +1

      Good question- I guess the Coronavirus pandemic has a lot to do withit

  • @jonnobloggs1139
    @jonnobloggs1139 Před 3 lety +1

    Keir Starmer should snap him up for Nouveau Labour. He would be a brilliant Secretary For The Rejoin The EU Referendum in 2025.

  • @ghotio1927
    @ghotio1927 Před 2 lety

    Giles coren said he ate the pig after Dave had his fun and it added an extra flavour , saltiness .....

  • @user-bl8xf2oi7e
    @user-bl8xf2oi7e Před 3 lety +3

    Great pm

  • @rhobatbrynjones7374
    @rhobatbrynjones7374 Před rokem

    Who is Dominic Cummings and who is David Cameron?

  • @samuelwilson2614
    @samuelwilson2614 Před 3 lety +1

    He’s aged well lol

  • @AlfraRed
    @AlfraRed Před 3 lety +2

    I will remember David's next edition is out when I next visit the supermarket and the toilet paper has run out again. Let's face it, the resale value will be improved post wipe.

  • @nudisco300
    @nudisco300 Před rokem

    He's a bit of a Tim nice but Dim character .

  • @catmeow8686
    @catmeow8686 Před 2 lety

    😂 How can Cummings return? 😂

  • @xr3871
    @xr3871 Před 3 lety +8

    He gave us the EU referendum, that’s the only positive from his time.

    • @angied8919
      @angied8919 Před 3 lety

      He saved the Tory party and the economy he had some good ideas about reform, it's so sad his career was cut short

    • @michaelsandy3353
      @michaelsandy3353 Před 3 lety +3

      He messed up the referendum. He should have made it clear that the vote to leave the EU would mean that we leave without a deal on WTO terms, and any negotiations for an EU deal start on the day we left, or we stayed in on the same terms. The lack of clarity about what we were voting for extended our stay and corrupted the outcome.

    • @tambrand7294
      @tambrand7294 Před 3 lety +6

      Another complete cockwomble.
      He will always be remembered as the idiot who let uneducated misinformed idiots decide the future of the country.

    • @tambrand7294
      @tambrand7294 Před 3 lety +1

      @Daniel Clark Clark 😂😂😂 yeah ok then.

  • @Doc959
    @Doc959 Před 3 lety

    Thank god for Dominic's persistence. Of all the governments promising to streamline/reform the civil service, he and Boris' government are the only one making a serious attempt to deliver

  • @ListenToTimesRadio
    @ListenToTimesRadio  Před 3 lety +2

    Has your opinion of David Cameron changed since he left office? Let us know in the comments.

    • @angied8919
      @angied8919 Před 3 lety +5

      He was the best thing to happen to the Tory party and seeing him now, he's such a contrast to bullish blustering Boris.

    • @ruthjackson4577
      @ruthjackson4577 Před 3 lety +3

      He is a traitor and has been linked to some pretty bad things regarding children so my opinion of him is worse.

    • @ruthjackson4577
      @ruthjackson4577 Před 3 lety +1

      @@angied8919 but do you know what blustering Boris has actually been doing NO you dont. While you have bern sleeping under lockdowns Boris has been making arrests of peodophiles human traffickers, ilkegals, drug dealers he is opting out of the EU human rights bill so he can deport illegals, he has changed the withdrawl bill, he is taking us out of the EU. Do you know who the EU are they are the NWO ,the cabal, the deep state, the illuminati , the globalist. These are the people that have been trafficking children, Tony Blair brought in a policy of forced adoptions and emotional abuse which allowed social services to take kids when they wanted. Tony Blair has been found in Epstiens Little Black book a prolific child molester so who has been adopting these kids because The parents dont know. Some kids were put in the care system where the groomers and the Westmonsters got there victims . Tony Blair created an endless supply of vunrable children for these bastards and No PM has changed these policies or done anything about it untill BORIS. CPS have admitted to SELLING 10.000 children to peodophiles in the UK there are over 30.000 children missing in the UK 50 million world wide. DAVID CAMERON WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM HE WAS THE BRITISH ESTABLISHMENT WHO WAS PARTY TO TRYING TO DESTROY THE ENGLISH. Do some research all the information is there protests are taking place all over the world to SAVE THE CHILDREN
      dont be part of the problem be the solution.

    • @angied8919
      @angied8919 Před 3 lety +4

      @@ruthjackson4577 I fear that because Blustering Boris promised the gullibles their Ovenready Brexit he can get away with anything. His handling of the pandemic has been nothing short of woeful. He betrayed David Cameron in 2016 to further his career hence his hedging his bets by backing Remain then Leave. This deep state stuff doesn't move me I'm afraid and what you say about David Cameron doesn't add up. It's wishful thinking on your part regarding all Boris's 'achievements'

    • @ruthjackson4577
      @ruthjackson4577 Před 3 lety

      @@angied8919 what pandemic woukd that be then

  • @angied8919
    @angied8919 Před 3 lety +3

    Gosh I wish you were still PM David. Smart (and handsome)🤗 💕

    • @Hundredakerwood439
      @Hundredakerwood439 Před 3 lety +3

      Infinitely superior to the current Cummings controlled incumbent

    • @robpaton1707
      @robpaton1707 Před 3 lety

      You realise that comment makes you sound like a dumb bimbo?

    • @angied8919
      @angied8919 Před 3 lety

      @@robpaton1707 he was a good Prime Minister. He saved his party and the economy and would have gone on to carry out more reforms. He kept his pledge to hold a Referendum. He just happens to be so adorable as well

  • @carlvernon3505
    @carlvernon3505 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for getting the ball rolling for Brexit

    • @robpaton1707
      @robpaton1707 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah. How's that going for you? 🙄

    • @carlvernon3505
      @carlvernon3505 Před 3 lety

      @@robpaton1707 plenty of jobs, homes places in school even The Hospital Walk in straight in and out

  • @amandaknopp9032
    @amandaknopp9032 Před 3 lety +1

    Bs

  • @margsomerville21
    @margsomerville21 Před 3 lety +1

    Why does anyone want to listen to has been

    • @angied8919
      @angied8919 Před 3 lety

      He's not a has been he's a former PM, he's amazing

    • @margsomerville21
      @margsomerville21 Před 3 lety

      @@angied8919 That’s the point a has been

    • @angied8919
      @angied8919 Před 3 lety

      @@margsomerville21Not the same thing at all where's your historical perspective?!

  • @stratfanatic
    @stratfanatic Před 3 lety +2

    A kisser of Rupert Murdochs bottom.

  • @scotthoward5009
    @scotthoward5009 Před 3 lety +3

    Great PM

    • @crockogold
      @crockogold Před 3 lety +3

      He downed tools and ran away. Setting up the catastrophic situation we are now experiencing

    • @scotthoward5009
      @scotthoward5009 Před 3 lety +3

      @@crockogold He gave people a choice, something that had been brewing for over 10 years

    • @laxeystu8096
      @laxeystu8096 Před 3 lety +2

      @@crockogold There was no way he could carry on.
      He had personally campaigned on one side of the biggest decision in 40 years and lost.
      At best he would have had a short interim period, which as we know was insignificant to defining Brexit

  • @snowyowel7961
    @snowyowel7961 Před 3 lety

    I'm glad Dominic Cummings came back .