The Coming Population Crash
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Who We Are and How we Got Here by David Reich
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Well, huum, that's one way to put it.
Hehe, one way to put it...
Will you ever make a history of the Balkans? In your Orthodox civilization video you didn't mention anything about Bulgaria, which wrote the cyrrilic script, made the title tsar,bolyar,bogotyr, influenced Russian literature and the Renaissance and old Bulgarian(old church Slavonic) was official in Eastern Europe for 2 centuries, influencing Russian into what it is now. Maybe you can make up for it in a video about the Balkans.
The reason why I'm interested in such a video is because even tough thousands of years have passed, the people are still the same. The Thracians were fierce warriors with numerous numbers, but were also drunkyards who got conquered by the Romans, not so much trough fighting, but trough their politicians' betrayal who sold themselves to the Romans. Centuries later into the Roman empire, the Thracians forgot their language and started to supply the Empire with soldier. The same thing is true today, when our politicians sell themselves to whoever is the dominant civilization, trying to be like them, with the intelligentsia hating on the general population and using English Grammer and words in their language. Bulgaria for example owes it's freedom to Russia, which liberated it, historically speaking we don't hate each other, but since now we are with the West, we had to sanction them first. We want to become bigger Americans, than the American themselves.It's very weird because it appears nationalistic on the outside, but it's a very insecure society, constantly criticizing itself. Ask a Bulgarian what he thinks of other Bulgarians and he will say terrible stuff. There is even this character called ,,Bay Ganio" , which is supposed to be a metaphor for the Bulgarian ppl. For example in a joke, instead of saying a Bulgarian,french,German...you can say Bay Ganio,french,German... And Bay Ganio originates from a book of Aleko Konstantinov, Ganio is a very terrible person,lazy,evil,liar, and overall simpletonish. I was even ashamed as a kid of Bulgaria, it is finally in my teenhood I learned more from the internet about my country we don't learn in School that I became more patriotic. We also can't get united behind anything, and all Bulgarian know this and say it. So I always wondered what caused us to be this way so I know what can be done about it.
The Balkans is a region that hasn't been explored seriously, as you can see most of the videos about the Balkans are just memes, but this place is the center of Earth, geographically speaking. Many empires went trough here changing the place - Persians,Greeks,Romans,Franks,Crusaders,Magyars,Huns,Mongols,Ottomans,Germans,Soviets,Americans now. It is the place where the supposed flood of Noah happened, where possibly the garden of Eden could have been located, the place of the first civilizations (Vinca culture, Varna culture,Minoans) and just until recently, historically speaking, it was one of the richest places on Earth, with Constantinople being located there.
I think such video will be interesting, especially because not much has been written about the Balkans, all the videos I ever saw about the Balkans were incorrect and I also have the doubt you will manage to make a detailed and proper video on the region, since it's just too complicated. Take for example how in your Orthodox civilization video you mentioned nothing of Bulgaria.
Helped out a little bit, hope it snowballs!
Why are you such a doomer?
My father just walked the Camino across the entire length of northern Spain. He said many villages and towns had no one below the age of 40. You could go days without seeing a child. The crash is here
That's sad, everyone leaving their families to follow their 'dreams'. The solution will probably be to reverse this tremd and return to rural community building.
That is fine with me
@@lucasdarianschwendlervieir3714if the west isn’t taken over by some other demographic…..
Already is bro
Woooow…… yeah, Here
Those who live after this crisis will live better lives than us.
They will probably live much, much worse lives than us.
Dark ages always lead to golden ages. We just keep on trying
We’re not even in the crisis yet lmao
That's how History goes.
@@ShadeDrawshow? The ones who follow will be more enlightened and live in harmony with nature. They will learn from all the mistakes humanity has collectively made - and will yet make. One of them being mindless procreation.
Animal populations are kept in check by predation, starvation and disease. Human populations are kept in check by housing costs, wanting to spend your 20s and 30s establishing your career, and the fact that it's like so much easier to travel on go on vacay with only one kid.
You made me laugh, but there is a point to what you say!
There are still many countries where you can buy a cheap house without needing a mortgage. Then just find a country that has women who are compatible with and also have these cheap properties and being selfreliand and off grid because these countries often have poor job oppertunnities especially as foreigner.
Not entirely true, people have more babies when housing goes up, which is very impractical yet humans do it anyway, the truth is that humans aren’t dying enough for their to be healthy growth of a population.
Well, people are stupid.
And effective birth control.
I’m 32 yrs old. From one of the poorest countries in Africa. Parents gave birth to me when they were 20. I have no kids. No pressure to have kids. And 100% of all my friends with kids have fewer kids than their parents had. And our parents had fewer kids than their parents.
I like to think that the system is correcting itself. When the benefits of having kids start to outweigh the costs, the growth rate will go back up.
I suppose educated Africans noticed the same thing as Westerners, that if you want to retain a middle class lifestyle, you can't raise more than 2, even if you want 4 or more
I'm 47 from the US, and I got a vasectomy when my second son was 1.
I knew, even before my forst, that I only wanted 2 children.
I love them both more than life itself, but it's diminishing returns. The more children I had, would mean less I could give each child. My 2 sons lived much better lives than I could have given 4 or 5.
@@glory2cybertron It is a general trend in urban areas. Irrespective of education level. The families we have to thank for our current growth rate are all in rural districts. And even those are having fewer kids.
@@dogsandyoga1743 You made the right decision. I had a rough childhood because my dad could not afford the kids he gave birth to. My girlfriend wants exactly 2 kids. That is the number we will stick with.
@@HarukiYamamotoYou obviously didn’t watch the full video. Have kids and ensure your genetic future.
Don’t be selfish and tell yourself you need an extra car of holiday. It’s nothing compared to having children.
Turns out the AI never needed to replace humans. Humans just kind of went away, leaving empty chairs and jobs behind.
Nothing human makes it out of the near-future
AI and automation would be the determining factor:
- it will either secure most of the human needs (like food. health care, etc),
and the human population would not have to worry about the reduction of manpower to support an ageing society.
thereby they could arrive to a smaller but more stable population limit more conducive to the formation of small sustainable "tribes" than large and dense urban cities.
Basically a "Robot Utopia"
- or the "robot utopia" will hasten human extinction similar to the mouse utopia experiments,
where the lack of agency and purpose
(couple with the creation of effective substitute to gratify the need for intimacy and sexual urges - like an "A.I. girlfriend/boyfriend" and sex androids)
reduce humanity into an irrecoverable state of decadence and progressive biological decline.
Skynet isn't going to nuke us, it's going to persuade us not to breed.
Did 4.5 Grams of proprietary tryptamine blend yesterday for a breakthrough experience. Came to the same general conclusion as this video and comment thread. Our society is toast, although the question is whether the technocratic occultist will succeed in creating embody AGI to overcome the collapse of society (aka nutrient production, shelter and protection) so they can continue their decadence while the rest of us die off or kill each other. It wasnt the most pleasant trip but very informative...
Basically dissociated from myself and viewed my experience as a human animal from that of an alien or something like that.saw the birth of embodied AI as the next stage in evolution of existence. Couple this with some religious overtones. Pretty trippy trip. Again not pleasant.
@@gelmir7322 given how capitalism works, it will rather lead us to the extermination of everyone but the super wealthy through control, starvation and poisoning
Animals don't do well in captivity, Humans are no different. We are slaves.
This
Tell me something the matrix movies hadn't told me already...
It's funny but I've taken people as adults real camping for the first time (not like park a car and melt a marshmallow but long canoe trip) and people have like panic attacks when it's time to leave. I always say
"It's crazy how when you keep an animal in a cage for it's whole life and then take them to their natural habitat, they freak out when you try and make them leave" lol
Humans are different because we have a soul and the ability to have a relationship with Christ. So how does the secular survive? They'll create their own false god and I believe they'll do just that with AI.
The only one who keeps your chains on is yourself.
As a woman i get why women dont want to have kids in a urban area. Everyone hates you because kids are inconvenient, and you become more economically vulnerable. I want to have kids but i only want to because i have a fantastic support system. If that disappeared i probably wouldnt.
There are plenty of areas in the countryside, newer houses in South Carolina are still like 300k with low taxes, peaceful places to raise a family. If you want kids, you should have kids, but just get the career and housing together first.
In between Dayton Ohio and Cincinatti in Miamisburg you can get a condo for less than 150k. Western NY state you can get a house for
I'm all for children, yet the reality is that once they're here, couples realize that they need so much, then parents emotionally abandon their kids -- or more likely, they never were intellectually/emotionally developed themselves for parenthood. Thus, the continuation of troubled, psychologically damaged humans continues. At least women and men have allowed themselves to acknowledge that they can say no. I believe it will require centuries for civilization to evolve into healthy human beings.
Kids are too expensive, living is too expensive. It is literally that simple.
not that simple, theres just many factors that contribute to it
Our ancestors had hordes of children in economic and social circumstances that were vastly more dire than anything people face in the West today. People aren't having kids because they are weak, self-absorbed, myopic, and nihilistic. The "too expensive" excuse is just much easier for people to swallow because it helps them avoid any responsibility for their behavior and actions.
@@NK-le5ws People in the past didn't have all these kids out of duty or selflessness. They had them because they had no birth control.
@@NK-le5ws👏👏👏
Underpopulation is only a problem for corporate parasites that need a constant supply of cheap labor to exploit
I wouldn't be surprised if 100 years from now half of America is Amish. The future will belong to those who show up for it.
Yes, assuming their pacifist nature doesn't result in a serious constraint they'll be the dominant ethnic group in a century in many places.
The population crash will lead to an Amish and Mormon America.
We're gonna have a global war initially set off by Amish and Mexicans fighting over pastures in Ohio
I believe the estimates are that by 2100, there will be 300 million Amish in America.
They really don't go in for Feminism or Decadence. They stay pretty rural and religious. Pretty solid survival strategy.
Lmao no
As a Gen Z woman, I just wanna say that you’re absolutely right. My generation is literally being encouraged to never have children.
Edit- We also can’t have kids because A- Were looked down on for having children, B- We can afford it, and C- Modern society is built for people to not have kids
Well, because of the Inflation
And indoctrination...
@@Gantaipao No, this was going on before Biden took office.
They keep closing more schools in my home town. There are no children to justify keeping them open. They were packed when I was there. Now empty and closed.
@@brasidas2011 Indeed
@@Gantaipao That to
25 year old here. I saved up all my money and bought a house. I own my house, my car, i have a stable job that pays enough to support a whole family. I have no debt. I cook every meal and clean. I would love nothing more than to have a family of my own. But, I still cant get a gf.
I'm not complaining, just stating a fact.
Invest in yourself - gym, styling, hygiene also lower your standards. Pathetic not being able to get a girl at your age.
You need to expand your social circle, for serious dating you have to earn her trust first. Be ok with being a friend first then earn her trust and woo her to have something more.
@@jasmines.6325lol
@@jasmines.6325just so she can monkey branch when things get hard ? Take your children and half your shit ? Nah bro
@@jasmines.6325 That's not always easy. Dating in the 21st century is scary stuff. I'm so incredibly glad I met the missus in '96...
Grew up in Los Angeles, still live here but I’ve been spending a lot a time the past few years helping out on my grandfather’s farm in western PA. He’s got 125 acres and a driveway a mile long with a house that’s wayyyyy off the main road, out in the middle of nowhere. My dad grew up there with 8 siblings. Blows my mind that no one in our very large family wants to take it over one he passes. My grandfather is 89 and someone needs to maintain it. Might have to step up and take it, raise a bunch of kids there, and have a legacy that lives on for generations.
You should
Tell this to your pawpaw and it’s guaranteed yours. That’s a life that many dream of but few actually ever get to live.
Sounds great! We moved to 26 acres and love it!
Yes
Do it man
Birth rates are down the drain
And then there's still so incredibly many single mom families
It's insane how we think we will have a healthy society tomorrow
All by design….
@@raymond_sycamore (((design)))
@@raymond_sycamore all by naive decisions...
@@raymond_sycamore Meh, maybe. I tend to think it's just the combintion of large, dynamic forces, free will, the butterfly effect and just a natural, nearly inevitable progression. You thrive, then you don't. Hot and cold. Dark and light. Things hurt then feel good. Etc. It's just a natural progression. That and the empire cycle is a thing. Almost like clockwork, empires reform and collapse every 200-400 years. And the entire "world" (literally the entire world in the modern era and not just a continent) changes. Ice Age. The Bronze Age. Roman Empire Fall. Black Death. 1492. End of WW2 and rise of superpowers etc.
@@raymond_sycamoreBy the 1%
It is really shocking how so many parts of the Japanese countryside are deserted of people.
And to think Japan's fertility rate is still the highest in East Asia. South Korea and China are going to see Japan's population decline on steroids.
It must be beautiful.
For a very long time population was much lower, it’s not necessary to have so much people.
Collective humanly could flourish at a much lower population like half a billion as it was in 1650.
@@marcospaulo5390 that's exactly what the U.N. calls for, in their Agenda 2030. And the Georgia Guidestones use to say the same, until the UN blew them to smithereens
@@justadude4826 Rudy’s argument is really crazy: we should be increasing in numbers, but then he talks about mouse utopia.
If we’re in mouse utopia, then the decline in population Is NECESSARY.
A higher population would be as if we could go past the mouse _dystopia_ by having 10k rats crammed.
@@marcospaulo5390you didn't understand the video... This isn't an option we can simply choose of having a certain ammount of people. This is about total civilization colapse
Having more babies will help mitigate the colapse and help in the future recovery
I can't help but think that some people at least subconsciously want a societal collapse to happen, so that they can survive and rebuild in the aftermath. There's a reason why Zombie shows like _The Walking Dead_ are so popular, and why building games like _Minecraft_ and _Stardew Valley_ are so popular, and why Doomsday Prepping is so popular.
It's pretty much conscious at this point.
Stardew valley? Wtf
What does that have to do with this?
@@Thepaleking1920 Stardew Valley is a building game, like Minecraft, that's why the OP said it.
The game starts off, with the main protagonist QUITTING a miserable job in a Company, to a nice, small town environment. Notice the correlation?
Also, the game takes place in the middle of a literal WAR.
I wouldn't say Stardew Valley is 'Political', That would be absurd to say! That isn't the focus..
I believe it's just Anti-Capitalist, which is the bare minimum (That's not a bad thing either).
You can see this is in the game, where the local store sells way cheaper supplies than, say.. The big Mall franchise, that made it's way to this rural town (Walmart anyone?).
Interestingly enough, I've seen a CZcams video, which argues that Stardew Valley promotes Anarchism. More accurately "Anarcho-Communism"
@@Thepaleking1920 Stardew Valley is a building game, that's why the OP said it.
In any case: The game starts off with your character QUITTING a miserable job in a company, and retreating to a small urban town..
I wouldn't say the game is political.. No, that would be absurd! That isn't the focus;
Im just saying that Stardew Valley is STRONGLY Anti-Capitalist, which is evident in the game.
I've seen a CZcams video, arguing that the game supports "Anarcho-Communism"
I'm 13 years old. When I get older homes will be affordable because the supply will outweigh the demand.
you wish man, the coorperations are buying up all the homes
in theory yes
It depends where you live. Many countries will do their best to delay this change by importing many people.
good luck getting a job too, I'm almost 23 and I've spent more time unemployed than working, learn what you can in blue collar work because that'll be a premium when you get to my age, almost every tradesmen now is middle aged and refuses to train the younger folk, go to trade school and learn what you can even if you don't want the job, who knows what's coming and those skills will likely help you in a way you can't see now
@@boggeddown778 question is how long
Started off just wanting a GF, ended up in this rabbit hole.
Real and same.
Do not stay complacent, you have agency to mold your life, although hard, only those with true resolve can be bestowed the right to great impact. Our society created slaves of ourselves as a defence mechanism to not ruin the world, just as the rats did, but we have the ability to orient our lives to not face this current reality due to our social intelligence and critical thinking abilities. That is why humans prevail and overcome these mass deaths. We all posses this gift of the mind as we navigate a very important century of our species being, what we hold as our base values and strive for in life will progress our human kind for centuries, centuries, and centuries to come. We must look towards a positive society to continue this cycle so that we may finally find an enlightened society which may seemingly interact with the world, while upholding the physical and intellectual biology of our being. I cannot say for certain what that state may look like in the future but I can give my all to orient my future generations to excellence. Do your part.
That’s part of the problem. If we all had long term gfs/wives, we’d be too busy (and hopefully satisfied) to be terminally online.
List to do thigns before you even try to get a GF.
1; get a training rutine you really like. Something you rather do than dobt something fun and e joyable
2: get a house. It can be small and in piss porr condition dont matter, you need a house.
3: start fixing up the house, interier and exterior (roof and foundation ks always 1 prio, then fix the estetics)
4: get a hobby that you can share with people that is poorer and/or younger than you.
5: do your own coocking and cleaning and washing.
Thie will take tou about 2-3 years ro set up.
When you done, there will just magically spawn a GF.
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The same ppl who say that this won't happen are the sane as the ppl who though that roman empire would never fall
I'm pretty sure the people who thought the Roman Empire would never fail died a long time before this video was made 🙂
@@crippsuniverse lol no, I meet a guy yesterday that was in Constantinople 2 days before the fall, his name is Steve, a nice guy
@@crippsuniverse yeah
For them i meant that they will say that in like 300's
@@kazuyasusuki I know him 🙂
@@pizza8725 I knew. Thought it was funny 🙂 You're right about them
The reason for our current population collapse is actually capitalism. South Koreans work 9 am to 9 pm 6 days a week. How could you possibly raise a child if almost all your time gets consumed by work? Let alone the financial costs of raising a child. People these days can't even afford to move out of their parent's. In the USA, young people still have to deal with college debt. The conditions are just too unfavorable for many people to consider having children.
Voice of reason over here!!
Capitalism existed before this problem. It may be the women who won't have children.
Your blame is misdirected. The problem is corporate oligarchs controlling/being part of the government. Capitalism means owning the products of your labor, nothing more. Greed is the driving force of evil in any system, that should be where your focus lies.
@@Mis73rRand0m No, capitalism has a definition already. Type capitalism into google search. Stop inventing your own. One of the many reasons we, as people, can't find common ground even on the most basic issues, is that we refuse to use a god damn dictionary.
"capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit"
Is literally what pops up, which clarifies and expands my definition but doesn't change it. Try again.
There is nothing bad about this crash. It is inevitable and necessary.
What comes after will be a Western civilisational Spring.
That’s the problem. No one wants the journey to the future, apparently. It’s as if it’s been forgotten that it takes time to get to a certain destination
> spend 60 years allowing sexual dynamics to be decided by a philosophy that unconditionally hates one sex
> society continuously lies to itself about the nature of that philosophy and its beliefs
> population collapses
> "Why did no one see this coming?!"
I'm _really_ sick of the act. Like totally sick of it.
Correction. The dudes that made that philosophy actually love males especially young ones.
Correction 2. OP loves males especially the young ones.
@@ethank.3201tell us you're a pedo without telling us you're a pedo
@@ethank.3201you're projecting.
@@jurassicthunder Correction 3. Take things less seriously and you won’t need a video game character as your profile picture. The video says we are social animals.
I graduated high school in 2012. My classmates are all 29-30 years old now. 95% of which are still childless, myself included. Go back one or two generations and the stat would probably be flipped, as in 95% would have children by 29-30 years old. Imagine the exponential of that.
Same exact age as you. And same here. Most people don’t have kids. I’d say it’s probably 90% don’t have kids yet.
What's stopping you guys from having at least 1 kid?
@@sharinaross1865 Where do I start? The economy, housing prices, unrealistic dating standards, hookup culture, lack of real life community coupled with excess of digital distractions, divorce rates, secularism, consumerism, individualism, hedonism, degeneracy. You know, the basics.
@@wotanmituns33 well that encompasses a lot. But the cost of childcare and education, work/life culture and balance. How does consumerism impact your decision on children's output? Would you let your 3 year old spend 6 hours on the iPhone or iPad?
@@sharinaross1865 Consumerism distracts us from having children and instills a notion that a child needs more goods and services than perhaps it does. And I like to think that I wouldn't allow 6 hours a day on the ipad. Do you have any children of your own?
When I was young, like late childhood pre-teen (I'm turning 30 this year), I thought I was extremely luck to have been born in the peak of human civilization. Almost our major problems were solved and the one's that still weren't it seen that with our quasi magical ever evolving technology and economic progress it would be inevitable that they would soon enough. Them as a late teen and young adult, I started to see the pattern that nothing really changed for the better, politically and economically it seemed that we were running in cycles, and a increased slow decay that seem to be accelerating was taking place while the political, corporate and "intelectual" class were gasligthing us that minor things were the problem to keep we fighting each other while they sacked us harder and harder. I started to study more economy (specially the austrian school of economics, the only one that deals with reality and precisely described what the hell is happening to the economy), history, philosophy (specially politicial philosophy) and sociology, and them I started to realize that I probably was born in the worst period on history. The collapse of the largest and most powerful empire in the history of humanity (the closest anyone ever got to a world empire) and with it, it would drag the entire world down. Which the addition of modern technology in the mix that could make this the most destructive of all civilizational collapses. The brief moment of tranquility of my birth and infancy was just the eye of the storm, now it's moving again and it will wreck everything in it's path.
Brace yourselves, and lucky will be the one that are born after this mess has sorted itself and the survivors have rebuilt the world.
I fully agree with you. Very well articulated. You have a good head on your shoulders. Just try your best to stay strong and keep your chin up. We will still possibly find ways to get through. Never know! 👍🏻
Have faith, be strong, and be brave.
Yes, we all fell for the propaganda. just like we all fell for feminism.
same im already in this mentality, and try to embrace the collapse as real as it gets
Give me a fucking break, so incredibly naïve. This era is in NO WAY shape or form worse than the horrors people went through in the medieval ages. Let me count the ways;
1. Plague and Disease
Black Death (1347-1351): One of the deadliest pandemics in history, killing an estimated 25-50 million people across Europe.
Other Diseases: Leprosy, smallpox, and dysentery ravaged populations, with little to no effective medical treatment available.
2. Warfare and Violence
Frequent Wars: The Hundred Years' War, Crusades, and Viking invasions led to constant conflict, death, and destruction.
Brutal Tactics: Sieges, torture, and public executions (e.g., burning, beheading, and hanging) were common methods of warfare and punishment.
3. Famine
Great Famine of 1315-1317: A severe food shortage that led to mass starvation across Europe.
Crop Failures: Poor agricultural techniques and unpredictable weather often led to famine, exacerbating the harshness of daily life.
4. Religious Persecution and Inquisition
Heretic Trials: The Medieval Inquisition sought out and punished individuals accused of heresy, often using torture to extract confessions.
Witch Hunts: Accusations of witchcraft led to trials and executions, with women especially vulnerable.
5. Feudalism and Serfdom
Serfdom: Many peasants were bound to the land, working under harsh conditions for lords with little hope of escaping poverty.
Feudal Violence: Nobles often fought for power, and peasants suffered in the crossfire or were oppressed by their lords.
6. Lack of Sanitation
Unsanitary Living Conditions: Filthy streets, lack of clean water, and rudimentary sewage systems led to rampant disease and poor health.
Personal Hygiene: Bathing was infrequent for many, contributing to the spread of illness.
7. Limited Medical Knowledge
Primitive Medicine: Treatments were often ineffective or harmful (e.g., bloodletting) due to a lack of understanding of disease and the human body.
Superstition: Illnesses were frequently attributed to supernatural causes, and cures involved prayer or relics rather than science.
8. Justice and Law
Harsh Punishments: Crimes were met with severe penalties like mutilation, branding, or execution.
Trial by Ordeal: Legal disputes were sometimes resolved by forcing the accused to undergo dangerous physical tests, believing divine intervention would prove innocence or guilt.
9. Child Mortality and Short Life Expectancy
High Infant Mortality: Many children died before reaching adulthood due to disease, malnutrition, or harsh living conditions.
Short Lives: The average life expectancy was often around 30-40 years, with death from disease, war, or violence common.
10. Fear of the Supernatural
Superstitions: Fear of demons, witches, and spirits influenced daily life and decision-making.
Religious Pessimism: Many believed the world was in a constant struggle between good and evil forces, and the fear of eternal damnation was pervasive.
Life in the medieval period was brutal for the vast majority of people, with violence, suffering, and death as ever-present realities and a far worse places than today's world.
The mouse utopia was deeply flawed and none of the individual behaviors can really be interpreted. What can be reliably gleaned from it is the lesson that organisms are genetic algorithms. They evolve specifically to solve an environment. Once those solutions are no longer needed .. the population doesn't thrive, stabilize, recede or re-prioritize.... It collapses. It only knows the drives and programming it already has and applies it regardless of if it is needed. We don't weep when there are no more lands to conquer.... We conquer things that do not need conquering.
That is a big reason why I'm not nearly as scared as WhatIfAltHist about Mouse Utopia. Population crashes are normal for human civilizations. Same as wars have always killed people. I think the biggest difference between now and the past, just like with our wars, is our tech allowing our heights to go higher, and our crashes will be bigger, but our low point will still probably be above the old highest population.
More than increased population size due to new tech, I think social media is far more of a game changer. Before people's social worlds were the people they could physically meet and talk to. Even phones only slightly changed that with people still mostly needing to meet IRL. Social media totally changes that and makes people's social world everyone who appears in the algorithm for the social tech. That effectively makes someone's social world everyone who speaks whatever languages they speak. So going from competing and interacting between hundreds or thousands which wasn't totally different from tribes of ~130 which are our natural state, to literally millions of people, which is 3 or 4 orders of magnitude (literally 1000x or 10,000x) bigger.
From a British point of view, regarding immigration to combat the native population decline, 99.9% of those immigrants are urbanites. They have higher birth rates only in the 1st generation, after which they fall back into the exact same pattern of childbirth as the native urbanites.
If you remove Urban populations from the UK stats, then the rural, almost uniformly native population has above replacement births.
Immigration is not solving any of the fundamental problems, it’s just kicking the can down the road, towards a dead end.
Immigration in the UK isn't kicking the can down the road, it's kicking your foot in the air and slipping into lava
Yes, cities are population sinks
Plus, much of the recent immigrants are uncivilised and are slowly culling the natives while our authorities hesitate to control them. This isn't about population levels, it's about ethnic cleansing.
Yeah most immigrants move to the cities because that's where the jobs are. Although most immigrants are way more religious than the native population.
That is encouraging.
Social media has an urbanizing effect on rural areas.
I didn’t think of that but you make a really good point
You are spot on
Yup. I call it psychological urbanization.
Despite all the idealization of the rural lifestyle, there's a reason most of the population is urban now. Urbanity is more comfortable and despite all its drawbacks, people prefer comfort and security over the hardships of the rural lifestyle. With initially the TV and now the internet in everyone's pocket, everyone has a glimpse and access to these comfortable areas and so naturally they don't want to settle for the rural lifestyle.
Your comment deserve way more thumbs up for the important truth that this video missed out
Rural millennial woman here. I want to have kids, lots of kids, but so many things have gotten in my way. My career, my husband’s career, the economy, our location, etc. By the time I start having kids, the amount I have will be limited by my age/fertility. I fear that waiting so long will be my biggest regret in life.
How can immigrants raise 5 children on welfare? Because they dont use finances as excuse. They just have them and deal with the consequences later. Overthinking is a plague on the younger generations.
It will be. Im 45 now, and I just have stepchildren .my husband and I tried 10 years ago. No luck. I'm still blessed to raise two great kids and a wonderful husband .
Women have to pick: career or kids. It's unfair, but it's just how the world works. You guys have a limited ~20 year window of time to have kids starting as a late teen. That isn't enough time to have both. Of course, to choose kids over career usually means poverty and discomfort.
@@liarwithagun Not necessarily, it depends how one defines 'poverty'. Some people say being a millionaire is rich, yet there are many places in America where homes are 100k-200k particularly in the midwest and south in where you can raise a family.
That's literally entirely on you. Women can find men desperate to settle down anytime they want. They can do it when they are 18
You're overthinking this, people can't afford to have kids. That's it.
No, there is a culture of not havin kids. Hedonism on steroids
im one of those urban people who got out of the big city around 5 years ago and i really really really cant tell you how much happier i am now that im in the country. i'll never go back. even if it means i have to accept lower wages, i dont care. the air is cleaner, the people are more honest (sometimes brutally so lol), and life is simple. the way it should be
its so true. i talk to my cityslicker friends who still haven't escaped and they just dont get it
Best thing I ever did. Now when I have a single car behind me I get annoyed. Roads are usually wide open and peaceful in the country.
Same! I lived my first 35 years in a major city. 18 years ago I moved to the neighboring state out into corn fields and woods and it was the best decision I ever made. They will need to kill me before I’d ever move back to an urban area. It wouldn’t be healthy for everyone else. I don’t wish anyone harm, I’m a peaceful man but I’m just not a fan of ppl……
People are gentle, kinder, well mannered, more helpful... much better.
i live in the suburbs so its not as crowded here but eventually in life i realized that people dont interact with one another. everywhere we go everyone is quiet.. so then when i go to the city and see thousands of people terrified of interacting with one another its just amplified and gives me so much anxiety.. when i started going to grocery stores and in the check out i was always silent and felt awkward any time i walk down the sidewalk and see neighbors.. then i go out to bars to meet people and its full of people who just want to be alone.. hundreds of people who want to be alone in a crowded place.. then i go to a city bustling with thousands of people all around.. they all want to be alone in the most crowded place possible..
'it's not for us to decide the time that to us was given ,All we have to decide is what to do with the time that was given to us" - JRR Tolkein
white supremacist bois chose to spend that time wasting away on the internet and video games instead of trying to start a family
"Time is the only resource for which no creature may bargain..." --DD1
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"Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again."
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thx for your boomer quote
@@klausreinsch5774 you're welcome
Using the word crash like it's the stock market is extremely irritating. Say decline, or declining.
It's simple, you wouldn't have kids if you can't afford shit. If you have no security affording a roof above your head, you would be foolish to go for kids..
💯. This is overthinking on steroids.
Housing inflation isn't universally high in all places, there are village sin western NY state where I've seen houses for 130k. An American couple could both get super full time jobs, save up and pay that down with no mortgage whatsoever BEFORE having kids, then move into the house find some local jobs, and make it work, and you have a village with less crime, smaller schools are better than bigger ones, etc etc...
Another thing to consider when it comes to small communities and rural places is that with the rise of social media, and how easy it is to move around, the concept of a "small community" doesn't even exist anymore.
Yes. Social media is a more fundamental game changer technology for humans than industrial tech was. Maybe even as big as fire. Definitely bigger than farming.
I predict that when I am elderly (I'm 40 now) that the elderly will be hated. We will be a tremendous financial drain on all working age people, and at some point compassion is replaced by anger. We might even see a mandatory age limit.
It's getting that way. I'm 63 and keep getting blamed for people your age not affording homes, and global warming.
@@chriswhite2151 Do you think homes are more affordable now relative to the average wage?
Your kids will have to support you. As it used to be
Housing yeah. Global warming is a scam of epic proportions.
Logan’s Run
Bro you said this was coming yesterday and it's already up, you amd your team are KILLING it. Thanks to all of you and your team!
At the end of the day. When shit hits the Fan, people have no post apocalyptic skills. Good luck everyone.
Crypto or Gold, assets even. No survival skillz.
Facts lol, people love to look down on preppers, but they will be the most successful people when SHTF.
Even if they got the reason for their prepping wrong, it doesn’t change the fact that prepping put them ahead of 98% of the population by default.
except the poor, they've always been in survival mode and it won't change for them, if anything it'll get better simply because there's more options for their demographic, source: me I'm poor
yep the one will be in chaos is in the urban area
@@jimbothegymbro7086. Can you hunt? Fish? Fight? You know first aid?
I'm from Poland and I tried explain to my parents that most of the world deals with demographic crisis... But they couldn't understand that
My parents are very short-sighted on this topic, they think that demographic crisis is only in poland (or at least it's not that bad in other countries, it's only bad in poland), and also it is because Previous ruling party, Law and Justice, banned the Abortion, and that's why there is less and less kids born.
They completely ignore the fact, that entire so-called "western world" (and not only) deals with this problem, probably even countries that have completely free access to abortion without any questions.
They are also even more short-sighted, when it comes to signs of that crisis all around them - I live with them in some village in poland, and average age of people here is like between 50-65 Years old or more... And when it comes to people aged 20-40, you could literally count them on the fingers of one hand, and probably still have some few fingers left at the end. But they don't see that or they don't want to see it and live in denial.
Abortion was never legal in Poland after the communist collapse. You could however get an abortion if life of a mother was threatened even during the law and justice party rule. The successful propaganda is the reason that you and family believe otherwise.
Same thing happens in Russia, Iran and China. It's not "western world" issue.
@@valentynporada5617 My parents yesterday were like "you have to find a job, because you won't have your pension"
For context: I have autism and Organic Mood disorder (in childhood, I was misdiagnosed firstly with epilepsy, then with ADHD, and taken medicaments which i wasn't supposed to), and I have huge problems with finding a job... I often send my CV, to even the minimum wage jobs, and either they won't answer me, even with a "no", or if i manage to get the interview, even if i won't say that i have autism, probably the employers could feel that i "act weird" or something, and then they would only say that "we will call you back", and then they never do.
But going back to my parents - I told them that no matter if I would work for one day in my life, half a year, few years or more... I probably won't have pension, or The pension would still be almost nothing, at least not enough to sustain myself.
The reason is that in Poland, the pension system uses something called repartition system (a.k.a "solidarity system") - basically, the young people fund the pensions of the elderly... The problem with that system, in context of Demographic crisis is well... There would not be enough young people to fund pensions for elderly, or at least, there wouldn't be enough money.
So even if I or any other people in my age, would work for years, we would probably have very low pensions, if any at all (one guy, who was responsible for the institution responsible for the money for pensions, said in many interviews and talks with people, that there is literally no money, and that the pension system nowadays is basically something akin to pyramid scheme... But very small amount of people have listened to this, and even smaller amount of them believed him, because "state would never lie, he is probably exaggerating, it's not possible that there is no money" or something)
I couldn't agree more. I am from the Netherlands, but I have been living in Poland for about 5 or 6 years in three different cities. The ''solidarity'' system here seems mostly designed to keep the old people as comfortable and happy as possible at the expense of the younger generation and, frankly, the whole society. The whole notion that you should get a job because of the pension (same argument made by parents all throughout Europe) is delusional at this point. They can kick the can down the road a while longer, but the way it is right now is unsustainable. The pension will either be worthless or non-existent unless the whole system is reformed. An additional problem here (correct me if I am wrong), is that the elderly stay at home for as long as possible whereas in other countries it is quite common for people to move into care homes at a certain age (if they can afford it and if there is space). This makes it even tougher for young folks to find an affordable house, and causing many to live in small boxes, which isn't conducive for having babies.
@@sven7736 *"The ''solidarity'' system here seems mostly designed to keep the old people as comfortable and happy as possible at the expense of the younger generation and, frankly, the whole society."*
I remember that back in High school (2014-2015), we had a thing called "enterpreneurship basics" - and the teacher (who was also a Civics teacher) there, during one lesson, was talking about pension systems - One that was basically saving for yourself for the future or something, basically you put the money, save them for the future and they are yours...
And another was that solidarity one...
While the teacher from middle school would have agreed with me (as to why, i would say in the moment) - her views, from what i saw (as a person with autism, i had to learn to read people to just understand them), were more like socialdemocratic or something...
And basically she was like "the solidarity system is better"
and was reading the history of it etc. And even back then, in 2014-2015, when probably not that many people were talking about population crisis or something -
when i learned that this system was created (at least in poland) in like 50s-60s (so the time when there was baby boom), i pointed out that this system is completely faulty, compared to that second one, because it depends on young people paying for the pensions of the elderly - and what this system would do, when there is more elderly than young people?
And she was like "no, no, you're wrong, there is a possibility of course, but this system probably has some safety measures if this would happen"
As to what kind of "safety measures", she never described them (probably because there were not any XD)
And for comparison - I Said that the Civics teacher from the middle school would have agreed with me - well, because he was a libertarian - the first thing he did with so called "core curriculum", was to throw it in the trash - for the three years of middle school, he was teaching by his own way, and at the final exams, we were basically the only class that all have the Final scores way above 80%. Because instead of teaching us "by the book", to "just pass the exam", he thought us how to think, how to understand the topic, not to just "fit into exam key to pass" or something...
I'm appalled of the fall of the west. Whole swaths of European villages are already depopulated
I used to Fret about it, worrying about what sort of genetic gifts we will lose if the population. It will be very good for Christianity. The tears no longer go to seed and they replaced with corn everywhere that our feet take hold we will possess. As it is written, he will expand Japheth, The only son of Noah, that God blessed! He blessed the God of sham and promised Jeff that he would dwell in the tents of shem(christianity) He has given us Europe north and South America north Asia, the steps, turkey India, Iran I’ll come from the line. But it is us that dwell in the tents shame, and the blessing will fall upon the meek will inherit the Earth.
Appalled? Why? What is left that is western. They smashed the towers of man and now live in rubble.
Woke virus
Italy alone has a serious lack of people under 30, especially children.
The West is falling because of lunatic agendas!! Can’t survive this
People say we're living in Idiocracy, no, we're living in Children of Man.
And who was the sole pregnant demographic in that movie? A black woman. Literally black women are the only ones giving birth to replacement level and China is all over Africa breeding with them. When they meant to exchange resources, they MEANT all resources
Probably gonna be some version of Man in the High Castle soon, too
@@GreenspudTrades Hence why women are deleting you guys through the womb. Can't be a threat if you don't exist
The book, not the movie, too.
The book is mostly about how a society of old people has no energy, and just wants to be comfortable before the end.
I think we're just living in a combination of dystopian fiction, but without all the cool stuff.
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Good system , 9/10 , big ups .
People in rural areas survive because they can feed themselves
If only the ruling elite gave a fuck about the common man’s well being and not the bottom line.
greed my friend greed. and the crazy part is, you will never have enough money. Its so pointless why they chase something that is literally infinite, you'll never have enoguh so why bother
It's not merely greed. Their number could go up even higher if they loved what they rule over. They hate what they rule, and want it destroyed.
You mean jews?
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Nobody cares about anything meaningful, the point of this video is that these problems have been coming a mile away and nobody did anything, just take advantage.
You can only depend on yourself and your own environment.
Reading "Industrial Society and Its Future" changed my life. We are animals meant to reproduce, have families, and have a community.
That's a sad way of looking at life
Very pessimistic world view. We are not animals. We ARE meant to reproduce and have families, that is important, but it is NOT the most important thing. We are meant to colonize the distant star systems and galaxies, and conquer the vast reaches of the universe, not live as individualistic, primitive savages in a far-off forest.
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A billion years of evolution in an unbroken line to you.
It is not sad. Reproduction is the ONLY reason you are here, and the only real purpose nature has for you.
If you dont, you failed untold predecessors.
@@kapitan19969838 Why?
Isn't that literally the purpose of life though? Almost all animals in the animal kingdom follow the same philosophy, when has this been any different at any point in society? Even hunter gatherers were the same.
A lot of people say, So what? There are too many of us.
I doubt they would act that way if they knew how it would impact them at a personal level.
The hurt comes most if you live long enough.
People today don’t have that sense of time. Time passes on.
yep because they dont feel the effect yet, but in a macro level it's already happening before we know it
Won't affect me. I honestly don't have a single remaining fuck to give
Is not that there are too many, there are too many that need supported. Net drains on civilization. When your tax dollars are being used to compete against housing that you are looking for. People start having problems.
The rich minority has been leeching off the poor majority so badly that the poor majority dont have enough income to support a family large enough to result population growth
Yes, and this will lead to their own destruction. The rich would like nothing better than to let the poor whittle away, so they can inherit everything.Then come the invading armies, and they inherit nothing. Gotta remove the cane tonight and gave the wind to the Jew. He removed the Indian and gave the land to the American. He can remove and replace anyone he wants at any time he wants history will continue even if we decided that it is already ended, it lives on the story of man continues Until it is over.
Even when the price barrier is removed, most people simply don't want to have kids.
After my divorce, I live on minimum wage, 20 hrs/wk or less. I have no money issues. When I had a wife, we had no money issues, saved 10k in a year for a home. This isn't a money issue. This isn't an opportunity issue.
Yes, now the future is decided by how far they will let society fall before the cycle runs its course.
The population will crash either way because our civilization is unsustainable. The system depends on finite natural resources like petroleum and fresh water. The developed nations are incredibly wasteful too, 100 million tons of waste goes into landfill every year in the US for example. Unless we can discover new sources of energy and learn to live sustainably, a collapse is inevitable.
(The underground aquifers used for irrigation are rapidly depleting for example)
Urban, secular societies don’t survive because they have no means to feed themselves once society has collapsed. The city of Rome is a great example of this; at the height of its power and population around the time of Caracalla, Rome had over 2 million people living there. After the collapse of the western Roman Empire, it was a long slide to the bottom until right before the Renaissance, the population of Rome hovered around 25,000 people and there were packs of wolves hunting in the ruins of the great city. It takes unbelievably complex and powerful logistical systems to keep any big city going. Generally, those systems can handle small hits and upsets, but if they lose 20% efficiency that’s when they start to unravel in an unstoppable spiral. This can’t stop until the city hits a size where the people inside can get their needs met by the immediate surrounding countryside without stripping it bare. This coming population collapse will put an end to every great population center in the world. It will be a thousand years before the world recovers to a point where they can become full again.
Tangent for those interested. (I'm going off of memery so details will be sparse, but can be found readily by googling or youtubing)
I can't remember if it was a verified prophecy or private revelation, but it stated that after the current chastisement there would be one thousand years of peace.
To put that into context chastisements occur in three parts:
The physical chastisement which in this case were the first and second world war, the spiritual chastisement which would be modernity and the heresy of modernism, and finally repentence if it didn't happen earlier.
The prophesies of the Church are generally quite compelling, for instance the world wars were very clearly prophesied in detail before they happened.
Modernity had so much trouble reconciling the miracles associated with some prophecies that they had to invent the concept of mass hysteria, because too many people agreed that they had seen contradictions to natural law.
History is complicated. Rome was conquered many times, but all this meant was that romanized germans took control. The centers of civilization moved north toward Gaul and east to Constantinople.There was little reason for Rome to exist. It was not a trading crossroads. It was just a political center which was no longer needed. The "Dark Ages" were not really dark. They were just decentralized.
We will be going through something similar in our future. Big cities are no longer needed. They will fade away. Most of the cities on the East coast were harbors for trade with Europe. But, Europe is in demographic collapse. It is an export economy with few young people. Muslim migrants will turn it into a wasteland and no one will care.
The Internet and a good transportation system have ended our need for big cities. Jobs will be returning from China and new factories will be build away from areas controlled by the left and trade unions. Our new supply chains stop being east to west. They will be from north to south between Canada, the US, Mexico, Latin and South America. Japan, Australia, India and Vietnam will be small trading partners. Africa, Europe and most of Asia will have no consequence to us.
If there is prosperity, then women will have large families again. Expect rural people, devout Catholics and orthodox jews to become dominant. Such people tend to be conservative.
Many people around the world will want to escape the chaos of a world wide depression, so they will come here. That is fine if they are not moochers. We will welcome them if they come to work. But... America must end its welfare state.Credit will be tight. America can no longer afford a large bureaucracy, so government workers will need to get jobs in the economy.
I agree! They’re not as intelligent as they think they are!
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Rome had no reason to exist except for politics. It was stealing its grain from Egypt. The surrounding farms were ruined over farming by slave owning plantation bosses. Long ago, the productive people had moved North to Gaul or East to Constantinople.
You left out the constant Civil Wars that depopulated the whole Italian Penisula terminating in the Gothic Wars. It wasn't like one day people stopped having children.
I mean personally, as a woman in her prime marriage and kids years, I would love to have children, even without a husband. I just can’t really afford them. And by the time I can afford them, I will be too old to have kids. It’s the same for almost all of my childless friends. A lot of the problem is economical, and it’s not getting any better.
That’s an interesting way to say: Chad won’t commit to me.
@@integratedpower9940 more like I’m just asexual. I don’t really want a Chad, I just want a little Suzy or Tommy.
And before you start, I’m not a man hater or anything. I’m just realistic enough to acknowledge that most people want regular sex in a long term relationship, and I‘m ambivalent about the whole concept. I suppose I could co-parent with a gay friend, that might be nice.
@@annelisezeender7455 It depends on where you live. Rural towns may be better for you. You will want those kids to grow up with good moral values, right? And you would be amazed how sexy a take charge man is.
America is undergoing considerable change. Our current big cities are facing the wrong direction toward Europe or the far east. Both of those locations will be dying off from demographic collapse over the next few decades. Also, our current big cities have a leftist bias, a strong trade union presence and a coercive political class. The People in those cities are voting with their feet to move south. New York City is becoming a hell hole.
According to Peter Zeihan, jobs and factories will be returning to the US, because the trade lanes will become increasingly risky. The big cities are out, because It is hard to build something new while you are fighting off political weasels. So, a small to medium town or city in the US, on a navigable waterway, would get most of those returning jobs and factories.
America's supply chains will be reoriented from east and west. The new supply chains will be down from Canada, the US, Mexico toward assembly plants built in Columbia. The US Navy can cheaply protect the Americas. The rest of the world? Nah.
The people living in the small towns and cities are exactly the one's who want to have children. The parents will have good jobs so they can afford to have children and possess enough land so that the kids can freely run around in. They have a culture which fosters home, family and independence.
You can't be afraid of guns though. These locations tend to own two to three guns per person. But they treat them with respect though. Plano, Texas hasn't have a gun homicide for over 50 years.
Majority of people could afford them if they truly wanted. They just don't wanna sacrifice other aspects of their lives for it. 'I want to go on vacation regularly' or 'I want this sports car'. That's what they really mean with "can't afford".
As someone being the last born in Gen Y and on the cusp of Gen Z, I can say that this was bound to happen.
Watching the economy collapse of 2008 and watching the inflation that followed then the world shut down in 2019 to 2021 and the sky rocketing housing cost and the largest homeless population in years with no way of getting back on your feet.
It was bound to happen. But that's the beauty of it all. Humans are adaptable. If no one will listen to our pleas for help then we will eradicate ourselves.
I am 60, i have four grown children, and six grandchildren. Of the two of my kids who havent had kids yet, one has just gotten married. We are doing our best in my family.
my mother, almost 60, had 2 sisters, 3 of them have 5 children, including me, out of those 5 children, all in their 30-ies, none have children themselves, only one married.
Thank you for your service
@@blackpillfitness9136What service? Exacerbating the overpopulation problem?
Great
you want a cookie or something? good for you (i guess).
WhatifAltHist trying not to mention the mouse utopia experiment every 20 minutes (impossible challenge)
Empowering women is the most effective way to reduce fertility rates and achieve a sustainable population size that respects the limits of Earth’s carrying capacity. The number of years a woman has spent in education is usually inversely correlated with the number of children she will bear in her lifetime. - Quote from population matters. There are many articles that say the same thing. The important thing is we need to continue marching toward equality. Let's get those numbers to zero people!
Or Peter Turchin's computer model
@@Nobody90019this may be however the _correlation ≠ causation_ situation
@@Nobody90019 so you want to kick women out of the workforce and take away their rights and autonomy?
It has obviously given him some trauma.
the anomaly to urban countries having low birth rate is israel
It's weird that worry about overpopulation was considered such a huge unsolvable problem in the 1960's and 1970's, while the way that it turned out, was exactly the opposite, with a population crash.
My German grandmother had 11 children, of which 10 survived. My French/Norwegian grandmother had 11 children, of which 6 survived.
My mother had 7 children, all surviving. My mother-in-law had 7 children, all surviving.
My wife and I had one child, who survived. We are far too old for any more.
Yup, you made a genocidal mistake…
Underpopulation is only a problem for corporate parasites that need a constant supply of cheap labor to exploit.
I love to have a child or two, but finding THE ONE to have it with feels like sorting through a 1 million piece toolbox, and it feels like I ain't looking in the right box.
People having only a child or two is what created the problem
Having 2 kids keeps the population stable doesn't it? My 4th is on the way.@AlexanderLittlebears
@@cthulhuhasrisen1009 No, 2 is still below replacement rate.
Buddy you need to lower your standards, not trying to belittle you but you probably have higher standards for women than for yourself.
@@AlexanderLittlebears People saving for their children's future = Incentive to have fewer children
I'm Russo-Finnish, wife is Norwegian. We have 7 kids in uniparty blue state WA. WE WILL replace the woke non-reproducers.
Better to be a non reproducer than a breeder 😉
@@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 Not true
Atleast half of the kids will become leftists.
@@constantinethecataphract5949 Perhaps briefly but long-term, no they won't; it's inevitable, we all turn into our parents.
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This is the major problem with having a population boom after a war. When you stop having the boom, it will seem like a collapse even though it isn't. Population is just settling. Population is still growing, even in western countries and that's not accounting for immigration. The thing is that people live a really long time. You could have 1 child and that would still be population increase because of how long people live and how few people pass on. By the time people pass on, the original elderly people would have had 1 kid, and that kid would have had 1 kid, and that kid would have 1 kid, and that kid would have 1 kid. THat's 4 people for 2 people who have passed on. That's still an increase in people.
Then you end up with a weak and frail population that dies so easily from the most mundane issues. The odds aren’t in the favor of someone living to be 100 or older that they will still be youthful.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes When population gets lower, people have more kids. It's the space that limits people. It's much harder to forge into the wilderness than it is to use up the space that previous generations have carved for themselves. You can call them weak, and I'd agree, but it is what it is. You cannot change human nature.
Im gen-x. Born in 1970. My life has crossed paths with the ww1 generation, the depression and ww2 generation all the way to now. I can see all this clearly as the most drastic changes have occured scince the boomers have had the reins of power (that which they refuse to pass on) its shocking to me the world we live in now as compared to the world i grew up in
It's telling that no industrialized nation has ever had a famine. As recently as 1960, China had a famine that took 30 million lives.
Wait for it
Chairman Mao caused that famine with Stupid enforced choices. We've been getting plenty of calories, but as time went on nutrition has faded away. So there is a famine but it's pushed by the industrial food system mostly in Western countries. Worse will happen as an industrialized system depends on cheap energy.
most, if not nearly all, famines are created by people. corrupt rulers and colonialism are the top reasons.
The great dust bowl anyone? Where was that? Oh…US post roaring 20s…darn.
@@dw4667 the misuse of early plowing caused it under the right weather conditions. Yes the plow has been responsible before for famines.
We try to offset the declining birth rates by mass immigration, mostly from cultures completely antagonistic if not even hostile to our own
Exactly. Instead of helping their own people afford children or give incentives... countries bring in hostile people who hate the new country. Just throwing money at the problem and bringing in someone to burn everything to the ground
Empowering women is the most effective way to reduce fertility rates and achieve a sustainable population size that respects the limits of Earth’s carrying capacity. The number of years a woman has spent in education is usually inversely correlated with the number of children she will bear in her lifetime. - Quote from population matters. There are many articles that say the same thing. The important thing is we need to continue marching toward equality. Let's get those numbers to zero people!
That won’t last long in the U.S. since the borders tend to be slammed shut once the foreign born population reaches roughly 15% and right now we’re at 13.9% so we’re very close to that tipping point. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if both democrats and republicans are onboard with the idea after the 2024 election since this tends to be a historical thing. The last time we slammed the border shut was around 1932 and it was closed until the 1960’s.
Well is it any surprise why they’d be so hostile?
We obsess over freedom, yet what do we do with that freedom?
Get addicted to drugs and wind up homeless?
Create monopolies on different industries through loopholes?
Play “oppression Olympics” then demonize the “privelleged” and ignore any of their own plights, then play victim when they lash out and use it to push anti gun rhetoric?
Glorify dependency on hormones and invasive cosmetic surgery to deal with mental illness then defame anyone that dares question the legitimacy of the practice?
Continue burning fossil fuels? Litter and throw trash into national parks?
My brother in Christ, they are antagonistic to our culture as our culture is cancer. Refugees culture is the answer as it has been developed free from our depravity.
America is in a much better position with Mexicans and Guatemalan than the Europeans are with the Islamic population. I’m not trying to take away from cultural conservatives that want to maintain the population, but having Mexican immigrants is definitely a problem and beats the alternative.
The collapse is definitely here for those who are unfruitful. Im 28, Ive been married for 2 1/2 years and my second son is due in September. I dont know how many kids we will have. But I know that my parish is packed with the little buggers and I see mothers who are a few years older than me being followed by a gaggle of 5 and six little children. Theres a collapse coming but the future belongs to my descendants.
Same. On our second, won't stop there.
Slowly clapping for you. 👏. Congrats.
It’s funny that nobody ever thought that population growth would slow. Good planning!
I travel across the world for business. I take special note of seeing children when I walk around the market, towns, and countryside in Germany, Japan, Korea, Italy, and more. There simply aren't many children, and I take the special care of paying attention. Very few moms buying groceries with little ones. Sure, there are children at tourist sites on weekends, but that's about it. Children are no longer part of westernized society.
Yeap, parent here... You experience a lot of negative fallout when you have kids, from impossible/overpriced childcare to lacking accommodation in the workplace to hostile environments and culture (angry stares, lack of child friendly options, indifferent behavior...). I don't think people like children very much, they're mostly seen as a nuisance. I moved out of the city now and will never be back. Best decision if my adult life. I don't miss it one bit. You only get that once you're out of the rat race yourself.
@@mysterioanonymous3206 Hopefully instead of hunting those of us with children like in the mouse experiment they just are unfriendly! I have experienced the same unwelcomness for inconveniencing other people with my children however a lot of old people are also delighted to see them, not much inbetween.
It's really interesting living in the north of England there are still lot's of families with small children here. I read somewhere that Whites of English ancestry tend to have kids at much higher rates than other Whites wonder if that's being represented here.
The scariest part of mouse utopia for me is that eventually the 'evil mice' and 'beautiful ones' eventually go around and slaughter any mice who try to re-establish cohesive relationships.
As someone who wants to have kids and talks about it with my girlfriend after we get married it scares me that society may eventually become violently opposed to me and my family.
Arm yourself, train to defend your family.
If you live in the hedonistic cities or allow them to be on social media then it will be an absolute hellscape to raise them right, but if you move to the countryside and keep them off social media then you’ll be fine
@@AmericanAdvancement yeah we're saving money to become homesteaders.
isn't already that, but hey the world is big and you can go somewhere save unlike the mice in the experiment.
Also live with like minded people (community) that is willing and capable to accomodate young families like yours. They will in darker times be willing to defend each other.
You are the carbon they want to remove.
Empires in decline all have three common traits:
1. The abandonment of god.
2. Women running wild sexually.
3. Men giving up.
Sound familiar?
Not climate change?
Yup, America.
Rome pt 2
@@MichalKaczorowskithe wealth of the Roman empire ended up in the coffers of the Vatican. Christianity survived and continues to thrive.
@@sprezzatura8755 No, rather Rome became the Catholic Church, the richest institution on Earth.
The coming war against the internet
Happening as we speak Canada and Australia are leading the way to single party Internet censorship
The coming incel revolutionary war against the postmodern internet Civilization
Internyet 😂
Ey yo batko Nash bandera 😮
Lmfao
I saw someone on Lavader calling you the “Incel Al-Gaib”.
I don’t know if it’s ironic. But you’re obviously making waves
lol
He is the one, but let him refuse christ for now, he will come to use the tittle soon.
It was for told in the prophecy.
"Why does no one take Monarchism seriously? Why am i beign called fascist all the time?"
Said the man throwing the I word around like free candy.
AS WAS WRITTEN
@@user-cz9jj2em2v SO IT SHALL BE
I thought NEET is unwilling and shameful in the West. Like during the 2010 Great Financial Crisis, I was told as long as I went into engineering there'd be guaranteed jobs, but nobody was hiring fresh grads. NEET is not something you become by choice, it's a product of the economy. How do you get out of it? I escaped to go live in the cheap tropical Southeast Asian countries, but how do you get back to the Yuppie lifestyle earning good money, the life you deserve after being the top student?
In India a farmer‘s daughter won‘t take the pill, because she will be held for a prostitute in her village. The same girl might have a sister, who relocates to Bombay, and works in an IT company. The latter will only have 1.5 children on average.
Yep, urbanisation for the most time being a great contraceptive, but not so much in Europe from the 15th till the 19th century.
Napoleon once said: „A warm summer‘s night in Paris grants me a new army.“ There is a reason for that, too.
I hope Japanese people don't go extinct :(
They're so talented and nobody can replace their culture and talent that they had on us
I’m focused on God’s kingdom because it doesn’t pass away.
I’m sure that the culture won’t go away anytime soon, but it most likely will change, just like it had a century ago when Japan opened itself to the world. I don’t know what’s next for Japan, but I’m sure it will be different but at the same time, not.
Totally expected an anime girl pfp
@@CZcamsmiy np I got you fam
@@richardsonrichly8456 😂
Populations and economies naturally rise and fall, usually resulting in wealth and opportunity transfer and resource distribution. That’s not the problem, the problem is when our governments see that they panic because they worship a cult of perpetual growth and progress and so import millions of people who don’t belong to offset it, which just exacerbates the problem and creates centuries of repercussions instead of just decades, and the affordability for family creation and opportunity transfer for younger generations never happens.
Countries won't last centuries.
True, this is why I believe the capitalist system is part of the problem
That's how people react not just politicians. People don't like to see their money lose value so wants continually growth and people want to retire meaning that they want enough workers to make up for their lack of participation
@@numinous2506 Yes but rapid radical demographic changes will
@@numinous2506The USA has existed for 260 years, the hell are you on about?
8 billion people on earth.
Way to many people
And our survival relies on money based economic growth and money greed for corporate profits that drive everything
We have a super competitive market environment
Corporations own everything
Way to many people according to what, 1 human alive on the planet can be 1 too many..A lot of varying arguments falls down to contemporary even local issues
We have more than enough space and resources to let 10 billion people live easy lives. The problem isn't the resources of the land. The problem is that instinctual human leadership structures were evolved for tribes of about 100 people. Ever since farming was invented, we started having to struggle through with artificial, man-made leadership structures as our natural born ones no longer worked at that big scale. Our man-made leadership structures (i.e. our governments) that were made and were relatively successful in the 1700s with millions of people, weren't made or designed for the current advanced tech and internet environment with billions of people that we have now. If we really wanted to solve the problem, people are going to have to go back to the drawing board and figure out a new type or style of government that will work in the modern age.
Pregnant gen Z woman here. If I didn’t have my family and husband, I would not be able to do this. Financially, mentally, morally, there is no way to do this without significant support from others. My heart breaks for single mothers or women without loving extended families.
Being something of a minor scholar in collapse-ology, I can say that societal collapse is rarely an all or nothing thing. Some areas will do quite well. Other areas will be completely devastated. Also, societal collapses don't always result in dark ages either. In many ways, the early to mid seventeenth century was the collapse of Medieval Europe, yet it resulted not in a dark age but in the Modern World.
So you get this weird thing, where in the long term, where societal collapse may be a type of creative destruction.
Like in Somalia?
I hope to God you are right. I understand the problems of modern society, but I also am a bit of a techno-utopianist. I hope we quickly receive the next round of genius inventors after this American crisis. I also hope to God that the standard of living improves instead of declines. If anyone is reading this, please go tell any messages that say don't have kids to go mess themselves, and have kids. Keep the birthrate stable please.
@Donner906 Precisely. The Somalia South is a wholly anarchic wasteland while the north (Somaliland) is a fairly well-run republic that really wants to be its own country.
Connectivity is different now unprecedented. If I were betting man I'd put on the idea that this time might be significantly different from the past.
Honestly that couldn’t possibly of sounded anymore logical, It makes perfect sense
Boomers: Born from massive religious and traditional wave that preached for multiplying and growing the family. Proceed to build a structure that destroys all of these values and beliefs and create a society that incentivizes their kids to be godless, nihilistic and, of course, have far less kids!
Millenials: All we can do is whine about it!
Gen Z: All we can do is watch!
Smgdh. 😢
Gen Alpha: All we can do is skibidi toilet fanum tax
Gen Alpha: Let's scroll this BS and watch comfy *SKIBIDI TOILET* compilations mah boys!!!
In defense of Millenials, what little there is, several reform movements were attempted and coopted by businesses to their own ends very quickly. The system is designed to not change, only to serve the people that it already serves.
Gen X, nobody cares about us....
how did you manage to blame a previous generation for the attitudes of the next generation lmao
Population growth is not the answer. We're operating with finite resources.
BS.
You've been hardcore lied to
Good, people who think like you should not have children. Everybody wins
Global warming, air and water pollution and resource depletion. All driven by overpopulation.
IQ Bell curve -
50-85: "The South will RISE AGEEEEN, HYUK!🤤"
86-120: "In the future, everyone will become smart, live in cities and stop having children to save the planet😏"
120-200+: "The Southern rural populations, with stronger family units, higher birthrates and stronger cultural and communal cohesion, will inevitably see staggering resurgence in the United States in future decades...🧠🧐"
The real thing to understand is that population decrease is fine - IF your economic system is set up to handle it, AND you don't allow masses of outsiders in to destroy the native cultures.
Sadly, most modern nations are going the opposite direction on both fronts.
The only economic systems which can handle decline without collapse are the premodern ones.
Capitalism AND Communism keep the lowest tier happy by promising a better future for them.
This means growth.
Religions, fuedalism, and clans can survive in decline and stagnation. They promise a better after life, or life for your children, (or they force you).
But you have to ask, what solace is offered to the people at the bottom? Central planning won't hold up any better than a free market when it comes to 'degrowth'.
@@KingMinos316 Yes, certainly! Capitalism and communism as we know them entirely depend on growth. A degrowth system would depend primarily on Legacy income (see Heinlein's "For Us, The Living") based in abundance and increasing productivity to provide each generation a better future.
We as a species don’t have an economic model based around population decline. As someone said earlier, capitalism and communism are both designed around population growth and without it they cease to work. Capitalism needs continuing growth to generate returns on investments whether that be stocks or real estate, while communism requires a growing population to feed its welfare systems with new taxpayers.
The only country on earth that has attempted to solve this problem without trying to delay its onset with mass immigration is Japan. They did it by offshoring all of its manufacturing capabilities overseas so that they can continue to produce while reaping the benefits by taxing their companies to enable their welfare systems. It’s not a long term solution since the whole world is in the midst of collapse, but it’s working for them in the present moment.
I love how Japan and South Korea give the finger to the "Breed or let people in" crowd.
yes, you're correct in a way. the economic system right now is modeled on growth and it's not sustainable anymore
I hate to break it to you but this isn’t a accident, this is what they have been working towards over the lost 60 years. They are winning.
They are winning their tickets to Hell, which isn’t hard to do, BTW.
And who might "they" be?
@@mrgalaxy396The ones who knew AI would advance to the point where humans would become redundant, therefore, our "needless" reproduction would create more problems for those who can't work in a new automated world.
@@mrgalaxy396 Everyone associated with the WEF, if you don’t know anything about what I’m talking about I can’t help you out. Your clog in the system to them.
@@mrgalaxy396 Research who owns the most farmland in our country, then look at where else he’s buying up millions of acres of farmland. I hope you become more enlightened in life.
Why is everyone going all chicken little about this ? Humans will adapt to a decrease in population. That’s what we do, that’s the key to survival. Billions more humans when there are already 8 billion is NOT the key to success. It’s the way to fast track extinction of other sentient beings and humans too.
“Be fearful when others are greedy. Be greedy when others are fearful”. This quote from investing legend Warren Buffet applies to more than just investing. I sacrifice today, working my hands to the bone to have children I can barely afford because I believe having children that love and respect you as adults in 20-30 years is one of the surest ways to provide long term security for myself and my wife.
and some people offended of the idea that having children = insurance, even tho its the most realist and ideal insurance for the elderly
@@feliciaf8 the average person in the west today cannot imagine a world in just a few decades where they’re just not enough young people to go around to provide basic services. Hospice care, nursing homes, plumbing/HVAC/electrical. I truly pity people who are too scared to have children today and are going to suffer for it in their old age.
cool. you be you.
It isn't an issue if we work until we die. The only issue happens if the older population outnumbers the younger population and still expects to retire.
And that is exactly what is going to happen. Literally nobody will vote against themselves in a liberal democracy
Thats what you wouldve probably had to do anyway in days past
this is an unavoidable truism. Also, if you do live in a place like BC or New York, where you have to work for 40 years to even have a chance at potentially buying a house if your lucky, who would want to continue working in a society that gives them nothing in return.
Hope you have a 401k
@@peterroberts4415 I'd highly recommend looking into starting a Roth IRA instead of putting everything into a 401k. While there are tax benefits to a 401k that are different to a Roth and your company may offer to match your investment to a point, you also have to face 401k fees that eat a huge chunk of your investment over time.
Isnt the reason we are having mass migration in North America and Europe due to the low birth rates. Its not like the govts are ignoring the problem, but their solution is a civilization crash to fight off a population crash.
Most things in government is done because of incompetence rather than by design. Mass immigration is just a symptom of our incompetent government that can’t implement any feasible solution.
The reason is because they vote for democrats
Actually the real reason was more about invasion and genocide then planetary takeover.
Immigration is NOT a healthy solution. Its a piss poor short-term solution that will only exacerbate the problem as well as create new problems on top.
[mass migration in North America] [civilization crash] the 1870s though the 1910s had the highest rate of foreign born citizens in US history, the civilization has gone anywhere.
You keep saying things like “horrifying” but I’d say it’s really awesome. The planet will love just 2 billion people on it.
That might be a good amount but my ideal would be 900 million.
I’m going to be a rebel and have like six kids
Yes.
@@SteelTyrant527 I’ve lived the degenerate, fast life and the disciplined, virtuous, God focused life. The God focused life is about 100x more exciting if you do it right
@@joenichols3901 here at our corporation, we are grateful for raising our future wage-slaves for us 🙏
Me too. Thr booty shall be mine
People can’t AFFORD to have families. A lot of millennials without kids simply can’t afford a family. Not exactly “decadence”
It's decadent to not take the authority to make money from kid your kids so they can survive
I can’t afford to look after myself, so I live at home. My friend had to sell his house and move back home. One friend from university got married and has left home. We started university in 2009.
Please explain how poorer countries are having children.
Soo people earning one dollar a day is richer than you? Who earns idk 100 dollars daily? Sure
@@tristanbackup2536 Lower prices
Forgot to say, i am a male, from northern africa and i feel disencouraged to have kids because i see the world as a dystopia, it doesn't feel right to have kids that will suffer more.
The odds you likely can't attract a woman so don't have to worry about that
If you ain't rich, powerful, popular, and influential, don't worry... no one will want you. 💪😎✌️ If you are wealthy, though... be like CHUMP. Obviously, that guy porked a lot of pr0§t1tü+3§. He's idolized by millions, and he'll forever be known as a God amongst plebs and peasants. Be like Chump.
Suffering is a privilege only the living can enjoy. Besides, if we fix the world, somebody's gotta be there after us to enjoy it and continue it, and I'd rather my descendants were part of that group. Imagine yourself in the situation that Rudyard brought up in this video: you're one of the few thousand people left on Earth; you're just going to give up and not have kids because things have gotten so bad? None of us would be here now if they thought that way then, and you shouldn't either now.
Same here.
Another reason not to have kids:
The population will crash either way because our civilization is unsustainable. The system depends on finite natural resources like petroleum and fresh water. The developed nations are incredibly wasteful too, 100 million tons of waste goes into landfill every year in the US for example. Unless we can discover new sources of energy and learn to live sustainably, a collapse is inevitable.
(The underground aquifers used for irrigation are rapidly depleting for example)
If you are intelligent enough to break out of social conditioning, analyze the state of the world, and figure out we’ve been sold a lie…. Then we need you to have kids. We will need some intelligent children in the future to deal with the coming crises.
i'm rural by nature and spiritual by inclination. stuck in a hovel in london. i'm in the wrong place...
I’m still having kids, because then my future generations will be able to live in a simpler way
One important note: the rural vs urban fertility advantage dosent exist everywhere.
In much of post-communist eastern europe the fretility of rural people per woman is almost the same as in the cities.
Abortion on demand and contraceptives skewed the more recent results. If that goes away, the population will go up. Eastern Europe also had mass migrations to western Europe and elsewhere, which also brought down the population stats. I can speak for Latvia, where the parents are working in w. Europe, but leave the kids with grandma back in the rural village (which has its own issues, to be sure).
Eastern European think thr west is an El Dorado, they are mistaken. They just end up uprooting themselves for some wealth.
Better than Spain and Portugal where those same villages literally have nobody below the age of 40. We are living in the movie Idiocracy.
@@user-wr3vt8uq4s You are delusional. Ban abortions and contraceptives and women just won't enter the relationships in the first place, because it's men who need women these days, not the other way around. You see all those "sexless men epidemic" videos, ban safety measures for women and it will get even worse. It's not a solution.
I’ve read this too. Isn’t this an effect of women abandoning the country though?
I don't have a single friend who's planning on having children. Nor do I or my girlfriend. There is no future, except for captivity. We're prisoners in an increasingly greedy and dark society of degenracy.
I see the eyes of the few parents I know... filled with sadness and an emptiness hard to describe. They never even get to see their kids, as an infinite amount of labor is needed for the simplest of things. Their kids growing up with a screen as their parents.
There's no point in creating life just for the sake of creating it.
You’re absolutely right, friend. One of the few sane people in these comments.
You're not wrong
Sad. Where there is a will there is a way-society can sustain itself if people support each other instead of relying on government to take care of things. I have 5 children, I worked night shift for years while my husband worked days. We made it work. Nothing of value ever comes easy.
The ninety-nine percent are $|av3$ for the wealthy one percent, yes. That is correct. But that's always been the case for thousands of years. The difference in 202x is that there's enough information, interconnectivity, videos, and other data for the $|av3§ to actually DETERMINE that they are just common cattle and foot soldiers for the rich! 💪😎✌️
If you ain't rich, you ain't nothin'. (tm)
LARPing nihilist
Never in human history have we created technology that changes so fast to the point where we cannot adapt in time and it can make human intelligence, what makes us dominant on this planet, become obsolete.
This technology has also made us become isolated. Humans have always thrived when they are part of a tribe or community.
Life is not linear. Just because less women have children now, doesnt mean that will continue
Here's the problem, birth RATE means nothing if every country is going through it. Population isn't headed for zero just reduction.
Few countries (like South Korea) are headed to near-zero birth rates. But you're right, most countries will have a reduction of birth rates, not zero-level birth rates.
Reduced birth rates become an unstoppable downward spiral very quickly. There were whole tribal populations that went extinct after encounters with larger powers because they stopped marrying and having children. There were whole species of hominids in the past that went extinct, but left an echo of their genetics in modern people. Extinctions in humans happen all the time, historically speaking, and the causes for those extinctions are many and varied. There has been 3-400,000 years of human existence, and we only know about stuff from the last 14,000 years. We are not special, we don’t have plot armor, none of us is the main character.
Wtf r you even talking about? Irrelevant bs
You not taking into account that nobody can live whitout the skills of others. So a brutal downsize of the population results in a lack of skills taking into account that the basic lvl skills for survival are bad paying job, so feww pple practice them.
Even like this in those low wage jobs even there they depend on mondialisation so other pples skills.
So the moment betwen the crash and reorganisation wont select the perfect skilled pple needed to survive.
The lack of skills and organisation will kill the most.
Yes. Look at the thirty years war. 75% of the men were killed off in Germany. The catholic church allowed men to take two wives. In one generation, the sexes were equalized at a lower population level. The women petitioned the church to outlaw multiple wives.
My parents never saw this coming. I will teach my kids how to survive and live in a harsh broken world
So you bring people to suffering?
yea but like… if i’m a good parent and prepare them for adulthood better than i was, it’s worth it
"I will teach my kids how to survive and live in a harsh broken world"
Teach your kids how to survive in a world with excess housing, cheap food/gas, and $300/month rent.
@@Rokiotop900 your here aernt you. You think people lived in paradise in the past
The Last of Us wasn’t a game. It may not have zombies. But the apocalypse is slowly coming.
step 1: automate production
step 2: automate thinking
step 3: stop feeding the wagees
The people who should have the most kids ,have the least and the people who should have the least children ,have the most. Realized that back in the 1980s
True. Welfare systems distort R and K selection.
Africa is entirely dependent on external support ...if that all dries up when developed world crashes, Africa is done as well.
I believe that when Globalism fails, Africa will starve. And they will not just accept it, but will fight each other and also trying to emigrate and refugee to anywhere else, like we see in Europe today. And the neighboring regions will either be overrun, or will have to close their borders and potentially fight to keep the migrants from making it to their lands.
They just come here
@@chriswhite2151They just do the same thing here, though.
Agree
If fast/slow life history strategy theory is true, African population will be fine. They can withstand poor conditions and deaths because high fertility is part of fast strategy or r selection. It's k selected populations crashing.
The 'conservative rural people will inherit the earth' thing might be comforting to you, but I don't think it will pan out in reality. During population declines (such as the one in Japan right now) rural places lose out more on economic opportunities as the economy contracts. If you go out into Japan all the young people are moving out of rural towns into the cities. Rural towns in japan are dying, stagnant, and old. Then the young ex-rural people adopt the habits of the urban population and choose to have less children in order to maximize their economic advantage. I expect urbanization to continue even as the population plummets.
In the short term, yeah you are probably right, but not in the long term. In the shorter term there will be a feedback loop that further accelerates population decline from the country. Cities have jobs but not a working population to fill them. High wages to be had in city relative to country because of this. People come from country to take jobs to thrive. They take on city lifestyle of birth rates, etc... and within a generation or 2, they contribute to urban population decline which requires more people from the country to replace. In the end people that own land and farm the country won't be incentive to leave their land for the city and will likely stay there and maybe those are the conservative rural people that will ultimately repopulate the earth that the video talks about. Remember, the video states something like 90% population collapse ultimately. A lot of people can still leave the countryside in the meantime with plenty left to be a new foundation in the future.
It’s also possible that population decline doesn’t have the same affects this time as it has historically. Remember that those collapses always happened to a population that had been more or less consistent for 10,000 years. We may just return to our real population size, and if it happens to everyone equally then there will be little or no relative advantage world for by fine with a pop of just one billion, it may do so again.
Japan also doesn't have a religion that tells them to be fruitful, multiply, and fill the earth.
edit: but they should, because it's for everyone! :)
In Eastern Germany the rural population is also collapsing while the big cities are still growing by a lot. In some rural areas in Eastern Germany the average age is already far over 50. The rural areas are dying out.
It will for a while, just not forever. Eventually, the rural population decline results in food becoming completely unavailable or unaffordable, which will force the few remaining people to leave the cities or die of starvation. Anything that severely reduces the food supply will be devastating for cities. How mechanization and corporate farm consolidation plays out will be interesting to see.
The handful that retreats to rural areas early enough with sufficient skills will end up surviving long-term and their wealth of nutrition will result in having more children.
Most in the US, even city people like me, are no more than a couple of generations removed from family farms.
Nothing will happen unless society collapses. People will only learn the hard way.
You a very rare person. A real original thinker. It think you are on to something very important.