European Experts: "How Brexit STRENGTHENS The EU"
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- Original ARTE reportage here: • Quatre ans de Brexit :...
Preparing for my DALF C1 examination in French this spring, I watch a lot of French TV. This week, I saw a brilliant report about the UK 4 years after Brexit, on Franco-German channel Arte. I thought subscribers to Truth To Power would find it fascinating to get an objective insight into 4 years of Brexit from a French-speaking news outlet without any UK political skin in the game.
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Great content. It's good to see the view of other Europeans.
Yes, interesting to see it from a different perspective
The EU losing over 15% of its GDP with Brexit has been great for the EU. 😝
Except the EU didn't loose gdp.
It lost a memberstate, the EU gdp is simply adding up the gdp of its members. So a paper exercise.
The individual memberstates will not notice anything from that fact. They only notice differences in trade between them and former member now 3rd country UK, and that balance is different for each individual country. @@aleph8888
Dear James, you are friendly and polite. "Other Europeans". In many mails I received Brexiteers behaved as if the UK was not a part of Europe. Unfortunately some Tories did the same. There were slogans like: "Let's go to Brussels and show the Europeans who has the upper hand", "We are more Americans than Europeans " (Peter Bone). The fact has been that UK culture from Shakespeare to Rock Music has given us so much.
@@godehardbrysch7905 I doubt any Brexiteers think the UK is not part of Europe. (Though whether Europe really exists is debateable, as it is not clearly delineated from Eurasia generally).
Can you give us some sourced examples of slogans like, "Let's go to Brussels and show the Europeans who has the upper hand"? I googled that specifically and found nothing.
This strikes me as part of the nonsense about the UK wanting to resurrect the British Empire, etc. The British are pretty pragmatic and generally know what is practicable and what is not. Heck, we gave up our empire almost without a fight. You can't go into any negotiations if you rhetorically downplay your prospects. Hyperbole is inevitable.
It is the French who have identified the "Anglosphere". If this puts us in the mid-Atlantic culturally, they are probably right. No other European country is in a similar circumstance and it does mean the UK is somewhat semi-detached from Europe on a number of levels not replicated on the continent.
Brexit: cutting off your own leg then boasting you have won a 50% discount on shoes.
Excellent analogy.
Well, it's true strictly speaking. 😁😆😂😅😄😃😀😄
Priceless! 😁😆😂
And you had to buy a pair of crutches !
That is a great analogy!
I work in a large international company. Because I am responsible for fulfilling orders for parts, machines, equipment and services, I contact suppliers in many EU and EEA countries. I effectively avoid cooperation with companies from the United Kingdom. I have no intention of studying British tax rules and want to save time and money. If the British want sovereignty and create problems - go your own way. Greetings from Poland.
How strange, I´m a highly qualified accountant, retired. Currently all EU countries have their own Corporation tax policies, this is not standarised within the EU and Corporation tax (tax on company profits) is not within the remit of the EU Commission, though they realy would like to take control of that. Income tax on peoples wages and other income is also not a EU remit. Each member state has their own allowances tax rates and tax bands. The remaining tax is VAT or sales tax. This tax does go to the EU as part of the EU budget to pay for their two parliaments excessive expenses and huge public waste. But again every member state has their own rates. The EU can and does set a minimum rate by different categories. In Portugal food made in Portugal is taxed at 5%, all food imported wether EU or not taxed at 21% Alcohol taxed at 13%. So why do you need to know British tax rules but not any tax rules within the EU. We do have a Free Trade agreement with the EU it sets zero tariffs and zero quota rules for all trade between the UK and the EU for goods that comply with the Rules of Origin.
To qualify for zero tariffs and zero quotas custom declaration forms have to be submitted concerning the origin of goods and goods have to be correctly classified. This takes time even if done correctly, as why wait for customs when a buyer in Spain can more quickly source from somewhere already in the EU. Thereby putting UK businesses at a disadvantage. For this reason many UK businesses have opened locations in the EU to sell directly to EU customers. One could see this a Brexit benefit, thousands of new jobs for EU citizens.
@@robertwoodhouse-bm7kt your clients are very lucky that you have retired. Portugal doesn´t have 5% nor 21% IVA, and the notion that
" The remaining tax is VAT or sales tax. This tax does go to the EU as part of the EU budget to pay for their two parliaments excessive expenses and huge public waste."
is completely false. Speaking of different tariffs also is a meaningless response to the OP, since the height of vat doesn´t matter for his story.
As a "highly qualified accountant" you will probably be aware that neither corporation tax nor income tax plays any role when importing goods from abroad.
A "highly qualified" person would also understand that the OP, as a non-native speaker, uses "studying British tax rules" in a broad sense, meaning including all the details and procedures surrounding imports from a 3rd country besides VAT.
I´ve encountered quit a few of those "highly qualified" Brits in my life, somehow I get the impression we on the continent have a different definition of that word.
Thanks. Interestingly, 80% of Poles in the UK have remained since Brexit and almost all those who left did so in the first three years after 2016. Since 2020 the number has been pretty stable at around 1% of the population. They are very welcome. Poland is doing particularly well, so it is not surprising some have left. The situation with French and, to a lesser degree, German residents is similar.
@@danielaong9436 The reason is irrelevant. Brexit or no Brexit, they are still here and welcome.
I am so glad that I live in France for the past 40 years
Congrats, you beat me, I've "only" been living in France 23 years; But after the 2016 Brexit vote (which, like yourself as UK non-resident more than 15 years, I wasn't allowed to vote in), I applied for and was granted my French Nationality. Now I'm a proud citizen of the EU.
I can't imagine how much you have paid in tax. Enjoy your 'freedom'.
I've been living and working in Germany for over thirty years now, and also applied for and got the German Citizenship, whilst being able to hold my British one. But I'm still peeved about not being allowed to take part in the Referendum as a then British EU Citizen . 3 million of us denied to take part ?
@@mrscreamer379 In return you enjoy decent public services in France. What good are low taxes in the UK when you then have to shell out 1000s on medical treatments, or linger on an endless NHS waiting list?
@@mrscreamer379 Is tax everything? The happiest countries in the world Finland, Denmark, Iceland all have much higher taxes than the UK.
Pay more and get better health, schools roads, water etc etc and a wholly better life? Or live in an unhappy and angry place jealous of someone else`s bank credit score?
"The price of everything, the value of nothing"
ED, The lowest tax countries in Europe are Armenia and Azerbaijan.
When Brexit comes up with family or friends here in the EU, many people shake their heads and say how strange they think the decision was. We then usually move on to another topic without further discussion. Greetings from Belgium, EU.
Many if not most in the UK feel exactly the same especially if their own family and friends voted for it
The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@markaxworthy2508UK is in recession made official today with GDP contraction....
@@mattyghost3409 Yup the UK dipped into recession in the last half of 2023. Germany and Japan are also in recession. Your point is?
Greetings from Poland EU😊
I lived in France as a young man studying at university. Ever since returning to the USA I found ways to keep in touch with French news especially since the advent of the internet and CZcams. Seeing the French perspective is a real eye opener.
En plus, je vous souhaite bonne chance pour vos examens. Vive Truth to Power! 😊
Merci, puntitgi. Comme tu peux écouter, même si je peux traduire assez bien, mon accent a besoin du travail!
@@TruthToPower C'est pas mal, mon accent de français est bien pire.☺☺
@@TruthToPowerOn fait ce qu'on peut. 😊
(sorry if I make some mistakes, I am not a native English speaker) What kind of french news do you watch ? Arte is great, but in the last two decades many french medias were bought by a few rich men. There is the exemple of Bolloré, who have many TV and radio channels, and also written press, and push hard for a far right agenda.
However I agree it's always good to get your infos from somewhere else if you can have it. The more sources, the better. I watch a lot of international news on English speaking medias, and I think my understanding of the world is better than what it used to be.
Bonne chance à vous, que ce soit pour parfaire l'apprentissage du français, la pratique de votre accent (tips, don't overdo it, having an accent is having an identity, don't be ashamed of that), ainsi que pour tout le reste. Je pense par exemple aux élections américaines qui auront lieu cette année.
Bref, bon courage, et bravo pour votre ouverture sur le monde.
Pointless is the kindest thing you can say about Brexit
I would say that if it didnt change anything, but Brexit did changed alot and not for the good...
Europe should shift all their financial operations from UK to Europe immediately..
I mean, the UK was the most neoliberal contry in the EU, they left for the wrong reasons.
C1 is a very advanced level of speaking a foreign language. My congratulations, Rob. 👏
Not saying I'll pass, Gerald! Such a hard slog for someone who failed O level!
@@TruthToPower
Je vous souhaite bonne chance, Rob! Moi, je suis en train d’apprendre le français en Duolingo mais le niveau C1 est très loin pour moi. 😂
@@TruthToPower. Vivre la Corrèze libre 🤫
@@geraldwagner8739 Bravo, your sentence is perfectly spelt and almost grammaticaly correct wich is impressive cause of the difficulty of it. However it isn't a very natural form of expressing yourself in french, it is not sounding like a daily basis french for exemple the structure "je suis en train de" (which is the equivalent of be+ing tence) is actualy grammaticaly correct but it's more common to use "j'apprend" (I learn which is completly unusual for english native speaker). next you use "en" before Duolingo it's the only grammatical error you must use "sur"(the equivalent of on in english, en is the equivalent of in) but you can use "avec" (the french for with) it's equal. For the last part it's not it's uncomprensible but with adding the word "encore" between "est" and "très" will definitivly looking better and more native speaking.
Well done for learning French, I know it's hard to learn French and don't be harsh on yourself for making those errors, on the right hand you have done no misgender error and your spealing is very good, Keep going you're doing great.
Signed : an French native who can't restrain the national urge of correcting the french of strangers with a broken english.
Time for a French language version of the channel?
Arte is a brilliant channel..
It is.I watch it in German.
the best
One thing I continually got blank stares in response to(if not, outright denial) was when I would argue with Brexshitters that by leaving the EU we wouldn't be free of EU rules, because the EU rules that apply to non-members would apply to us. The only difference is that outside, we would have no power to define those rules.
I used to be the Customer Care Manager for a global hardware company based in the USA. We designed are products to the strictest standards from around the globe because countries with lower requirements always accepted our higher standard products. Most aspects of our products were to EU standards or USA standards whichever was strictest. This let us make a product that could be sold everywhere with no restrictions. So yes British companies will have to do the same thing if they want to sell outside the UK. Brexit was like shooting yourself in the testicles with a shotgun.
Scotland,Northern Ireland and Gibraltar voted to remain in the European Union in 2016.🎉🎉🎉
Indeed. What kind of a “Union” is the UK? I prefer the European one!
Their electorates are not that stupid. Maybe something to to with their popular media and press being more honest and independent, unlike England's predominantly right wing, pro Brexit press and media which is owned by scumbag tax exile right wing billionnaires.
and then england took back control and showed them again that the colonies have no say - dont forget you are in the english democracy where only the english vote matters
And also London by 60% to 40%
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland are a Democracy so said an English Man and the DUP TUV.
It was a United Kingdom wide vote.
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I live in Ireland and now have to pay duty on online shopping from UK. No more UK purchases from me unfortunately.
I now live in Spain. I spend time sourcing what I need from other EU countries if I cannot source from Spain. If I purchase clothes on line I have them sent to my Family in UK and then bring them back after I've visited them
Elaine ?
Wouldn't buy the time of day from Britain, it would be a lie.
@miakeogh6844 Yes Elaine...and your point?
@miakeogh6844 my point is that custom duty is charged on items purchased from the UK to Spain. Parcels go to an holding centre in Madrid until charges are paid often amounting to more than the item itself. So it's not worth purchasing items even on such sites like Amazon Etsy and ebay shops.
So glad I left UK for France in 2015.
Good for you 😊
So am I, one less whiney, unpatriotic Remainer.
@@truthmatters5209 Brain dead troll
It isn't surprising that getting rid of a member who doesn't want to row in the same direction is a positive. The EU would also benefit if Hungary were to leave.
I've seen these discussions several times in Germany and Poland and Ukraine, by the way. Always the same, Brexit is a disaster, never even one new advantage
Not true. Brexit is advantageous to the EU.
Sovereignty is an advantage for some.
How? It has strategically weakened the EU and NATO, exactly what Putin and other hostile nations want.
@@foxkillingtime Sovereignty is a feature of Brexit. It's not a benefit. A benefit has to be descried as something that gives its beneficiary something better than it had without it. If the benefit of sovereignty is being able to make your own laws you need to define what was wrong with EU law (over which we had control anyway) and how UK law is better.(I know you understand this, I'm just explaining to the 'some' what a benefit is)
@@simonjohn9525U.K. law is for the corrupt. Just take a look at the horizon scandal. Now the corrupt lot know they can get away with it, laughing all the way to bank 😂
Good to show a French analysis of Brexit!
Good description about Brexit: a slow poison..
lead poisoning...
Both the French and the Germans look at Brexit with a lot more clarity. Surprise.
I have travelled a lot in France for work. Once upon a time people would give a thumbs up to Brexit, very few do now. They aren`t as invested in the dream of Brexit, so can change their minds more easily after seeing the real world results.
It's a lot easier to look at anything with a lot more clarity when you don't have propaganda media.
As a foreigner... yes, we can watch the whole thing more dispassionately and while there is a bit of personal stuff in it (the vilification of Europeans touched a nerve), at the end of the day, I can tune out Brexit. I don't have to see its consequences every day and it's something happening to other people 2000 km away from me. If I were British, I'd probably be apoplectic in rage against Brexit supporters.
It's not really that surprising, from an outside perspective, it's a lot easier to see things clearly, in the UK, too many Brits got too emotional on Brexit and it clouded their judgement.
Also, we should remember that the UK has a very hostile media against the EU for decades that have been bashing the EU, clarity wasn't going to be the Brits strong point with that kind of messaging for so many decades.
@@paul1979uk2000 Politics is one thing and logic is another.
How in a country which imports 40% of its food, 27% of which is more than a quarter from the EU, can we think that things will go well?
How can we not suspect that food will be much more expensive?
I can only understand people who have been taken advantage of by unscrupulous people, but frankly I had to think...
Britain had a large influence on the EU with that sweetheart deal they had. So now that deal, and influence is gone, the EU is stronger and more united. Also helps that EU states get front row seats to watch post brexit economic collapse.
Quite frankly, I’m happy England is out of the EU. Hopefully it stays that way.
@@a.r.stellmacher8709 If you're already happy about the UK leaving the EU, hopefully you won't be bursting from happiness when Hungary leaves the EU.😉
@@ettoreatalan8303eh, won't happen, Orban needs money despite his shortcomings
@@dermeisterdesspiegels3518 The question is not whether the parasitic agitator Viktor Orbán wants to continue embezzling EU funds, but whether the EU will cut off Hungary from EU funds completely once it has withdrawn Hungary's voting rights.😇
Brexit has shown us what happens when British politicians are totally in charge. Chaos !
It was a tory policy, if we had PR it would never have happened
I wish we had PR in the US! The two-party system is deeply flawed, probably outdated.
What a load of crap we only officially left the EU bureaucracy in 2020 and we have had the pandemic Afghanistan climate change war in Ukraine.
Brexit is fantastic it is the EU that is in a mess look at the farmers.
First came the idiot voters and this twice ..2016 , 2019 .... 😂😂😂 don't forget this ... isnt the politicians alone
How is your dentist ??? And your foreign doctor ??? @@snowyowel7961
The problem with this discussion is its focus on purely mercantile and financial issues. They are very important, vital even but that's not entirely what the EU is about. An ever closer political union is about peace. It's about making a European war extremely unlikely if not impossible between member states. The Ukraine war is not covered by that obviously. It started with de Gaulle and Adenauer and the Coal and Steel Union but spread via the Treaty of Rome outwards. That aspect is something that UK governments cannot get their heads round. Churchill was in favour of a European peace project but didn't think it was suitable fir Britain because he was still a staunch imperialist.
You are right in the point the eu is not primarily about money, the economics is the weapon it uses to create an empire.
The evil is the political agenda, certainly no one in the UK ever wanted any part of. The lies about peace are farcical, that they have the temerity to make the claims is a farce. Nukes made war in the old way to make a Napoleon or Hitler again as the continentals so love impossible, well suicidal for all. SO they developed the eu, a cabal of elites with no loyalty to their nations making the continent servile to them, by economic war. Suborning political classes in nations with 'a say' at a top table but losing all control, and 'bribing' with money the populaces with subsidies. We would have left on the first eu making treaty had we been let have the deciding vote. My parents accepted the eec only as a trading club. Zero political existence was even considered let alone accepted. Lest we forget, the eu caused the Ukraine war, by its usual suborning of a nation into it's orbit, and stealing it away from Russia's orbit where it always belonged. This is how the evil eu operates. Better out of it even if we become destitute, Liberty or death. Not, oh I will be a bit better off as a slave, ok then!
@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554Still got your head up your arse , I see
@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554"The evil EU "! From a brit, who raped and terrorised half the planet for centuries. Shame on you
@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554 I must admit that the rest of the world is very pitiful when I read the grandeur of your arguments. Such a usual technique coming from one of those Brits who sees his problems necessarily caused by “the others”. My poor kid, victim, but never the origin of anything!
By the way, the UK was part of the EU for 40 years (with the biggest benefits ever) and has been in NATO for over 70 years. But the war in Ukraine is the fault of "others"... pathetic stupidity and so typical of this British imperialist way of thinking of which you seem to be the worthy heir.
@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554 Who is "we"?
Well, I saw a lot of debates like this one in Portuguese tv, Spanish tv, Italian tv, French tv, German tv, online channels and opinions, radio shows, podcasts, etc, etc, before, during and after brexit, and it was of no use. So to me, personally, nothing will change until people like the Brit that was sitting in this debate sweating, are removed from their ability to do anything more than stand in the sidelines and complain, the British speciality, and grown ups are in charge of Britain. A like from me Rob, you deserve it.
The Bloomberg estimate of economic loss is based on trying to simulate what would have happened if the UK had not left the EU. The doppleganger model used to make this calculation is disputed. The real impact is likely far less than this prediction, as outlined in this debate by academic economists.
czcams.com/video/wpiRmUdsBZM/video.html&ab_channel=TheUKinaChangingEurope
Not to mention the 100 Billion the UK would have had to raise as tax as a net contribution to the EU Covid fund (given the Netherlands are paying 40 Billion Euro net and Ireland 17 Billion Euro net with populations a third and a tenth of the UK respectively). Given that tax revenue is around a quarter of GDP it means that sum requires at least 400 Billion in additional GDP to generate.
I think it's pretty clear that contributions to the EU are only going to increase, possibly quite significantly.
www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/eu-long-term-budget-needs-reform-lawmakers-experts-say/
The economic certainty about remaining in the EU is more difficult to sustain.
@@catinthehat906 it is plainly obvious that despite a huge government campaign to hide, obscure or fudge news of the damages from Brexit, there have been many. My business just one small bit of damage in the crippling of the multi-billion British music industry, a field where independent British music was loved and respected but now mostly confined to these shores as European touring is really now only possible for the big names. Do you remember "Leave the EU and cut all the red tape" 😂🤣😂 - the mad thing is that the same people who fell for the Brexit lies are still swallowing bs from the same liars - talk about never learning,
Thing is that there are millions of statistics and whoever you are you can pick and choose which ones you highlight and which you ignore according to your opinions and the story you want to tell.
Indeed Brexit is here everyday to remind EU citizens of reality vs dreams of sunny uplands and unicorns.
We are much stronger together than alone - even though it requires compromise
Prior to UK referendum Marine Le Pen was blathering about Frexit. She's gone quiet on that score. Not even Victor Orban wants to leave the EU, and Hungary is the problem child.
Stronger together if everyone has the same goal and works for it. That wasn't the case with the UK when it was a member. Even though the EU now is smaller than before Brexit it is stronger. Numbers are not everything. You also have to look at who plays in your team.
When it comes to trade with the EU, Brexit Wrexit.
We have a FTA with the EU so no great change in the trade, most of this business was the big companies who have to comply with thepaperwork to export and import from other parts of the world. A few smaller businesses decided to only trade within the UK. Very little change.
Indeed. Absolute wrexit. The number of insolvencies in 2023 is the highest ever, even higher then during the 2008 financial crisis
.....possibly not. The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@markaxworthy2508
The majority of economists believe that Brexit has harmed the UK's economy and reduced its real per capita income in the long term, and the referendum itself damaged the economy.It is likely to produce a large decline in immigration from countries in the European Economic Area (EEA) to the UK, and poses challenges for British higher education and academic research. Sorry, but your convoluted "clarifications" don't resist an impartial and objective scrutiny; sound rather like Russian trolls disinformation.
@@robertwoodhouse-bm7ktlol
Arte a superb channel. Shame nobody can watch it in GB, unless you speak German or French.
there is an arte tv channel here on youtube for both short clips and documentaries in french and german... just turn on the subtitles and select english... 👍
@@23merlino Absolutely, or learn French there are already 40% of English words which derive from French, this should make things a little easier (at least it helped me in my learning English).
on the internet there is ARTE. Just google it. And you can choose your language. Of course there is English
They're engl-subs on the application (android, IOS) and certainly on your box..... and spanish, italian, etc....
I understand... you were far away from UE a long time before living !!!
😅😂😅
How long will it take for the UK to come to terms with loss of Empire?
Centuries.
Make that England. Who are well on the way to a return to singularity.
Wow. What stupid comments. Not thought of empires since history lessons at school...
England still has an Empire. Gibraltar, the Falkland Islands, Northern Ireland, etc.
@@garryferrington811 That's not an empire - that's a poor joke.
Best thing about Brexit is that the EU is becoming more united!
Big benefit, the EU has somewhere to send its out of date food.
and inferior food.
Not just the EU - with no checks the whole world can send its crap to the UK.
But this will be stopped once the import controls are in place, so ... any moment since they've only been delayed five times (yet), so they surely will happen soon! ;-)
@@williampatrickfagan7590 you think that started with Brexit ?
Brexit gives us our own standards, We do not have to follow EU rules. Let our food companies benefit from Brexit just as our water companies have,
"They need us more than we need them!!!" Still having a laugh about that every once in a while....
I am still waiting for the German car manufacturers to rise up and demand massive concessions to the UK. They need us more than we need them etc.
We hold all the cards. Yeah. Obviously they forgot to read the fineprint "Not for EU" on these cards.
That was the most supremely stupid statement amongst a host of stupid statements.
"Perfidious Albion": refer to acts of diplomatic sleights, duplicity, treachery and hence infidelity (with respect to perceived promises made to or alliances formed with other nation states) by monarchs or governments of the UK (or England prior to 1707) in their pursuit of self-interest. ‘Perfidious’ signifies one who does not keep his faith or word (from the Latin word perfidia), while ‘Albion’ is an ancient name for GB.
A title well deserved over centuries and the british civil servants worked hard for decades to replace it with the "fair play gentlemen" lie - but the english just couldnt keep up with that mask , it would have slipped sooner or later even without Johnson because they just cant hide their true colors.
I have been calling England „perfidious Albion“ for years now. In the past I thought the English were friends. Never have been, never will be!
We have to wait a bit longer before calling the sinking of the Titanic a disaster. (Jeremy Stubbs)
Think of the benefits. Interesting Titanic exhibitions featuring artefacts recovered from the seabed. It made stars out of Kate Winslet and Leonardo Di Caprio. The Titanic sinking had benefits...
I have been living in France for a number of years, and since Brexit I have absolutely no intention in returning to the UK. I regularly view ARTE news and features as their impartiality is refreshing. I also saw this particular program in early February and how true it rang..!
People over here are witnessing the situation within the Uk , and believe you me such notions of leaving the EU have all but vapourised. Remember the old prase 'united we stand but devided we fall..!
Thanks for the translation, Rob, and Isn't it nice to hear adults on Arte discuss the disaster of Brexit rather than the mainstream media in this country and their lies and grift! Thank you.👍😊
Funny to see rejoiners just dripping with the very same British exceptionalism that drove the Brexit vote.
They're doing nothing to force the radical changes necessary to comply with the EU ATAD and somehow expect to just breeze back into the EU.
It is amusing to see their slow grasp of reality.
As getting out of the EU before the ATAD was introduced was one of the main aims of the current UK government there is nothing that can be done until that government is ousted. Roll on a general election!
That's absolutely true. We're going to rejoin the EU. Just like that. The EU doesn't have a say in it. Will the UK meet the economic criteria for rejoining ? Will the EU even WANT the UK back ? UK had incredibly favourable terms as a member that no other member had. Those terms will no longer apply, even if UK rejoins. I think that the UK should only be readmitted if a future referendum shows 75 per cent in favour of membership.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gwagreed. I would also ask for compensation : the EU has faced enormous costs due to brexit. You want back? You pay for what you caused. There's a price for treason
That ain't happening. Not in my lifetime.
Thank you Rob, a very good video.
Since 2010, a combination of Cameron's austerity programme, the slow poison of Brexit and the Conservatives complete fiscal incompetence/corruption, has wreaked untold havoc upon the UK, even if the political will exists, it will take decades to even begin to reverse the damage, and a lot of what we've lost has disappeared forever.
The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@markaxworthy2508Lol. Whst about Gross Domestic Income, the Labour share of GDi, productivity, and poverty? And mein herr, the UK was in the EU for most of that last half century. I suggest you look at the OECD and IMF Databases which allow a comparison over time. They are free to access without registration. Then you will be able to fully digest the facts.
@@BigHenFor What about them? You don't say.
@@markaxworthy2508 My brief post doesn't say everything is the result of Brexit, I point to the Conservatives toxic mix of policies and decisions: austerity/Brexit/fiscal incompetence/corruption. The food shortages are evident in every major supermarket, and have been for some time. Less choice, empty shelves, fruit and veg on the point of going off. Is this what we all expected Brexit to deliver? Lastly you speak of France investing in nuclear power for decades outside of EU structures, well they didn't just invest outside of Europe. You might be interested to know that the UK currently has five operational nuclear power plants, all owned by Électricité de France (EDF) which is wholly owned by the French state.
@@trevellyanblack4101 Austerity was inevitable whoever won the 2010 election. Alistair Darling's plans make that clear, as did Liam Byrne's "There is no money" note. At that point the Tories hadn't been in office for 13 years, so "fiscal incompetence" is clearly not a Conservative monopoly! The Brexit referendum was voted for by EVERY national political party and, as they were all majority pro-Remain, lost by all of them. What corruption? You need to be more specific. I have seen no food shortages apart from the short period last year when the Spanish tomato crop was weak. What can't you get? Perhaps I could send you a food parcel?
Yes, it is interesting that state-owned and subsidized French utilities can buy UK utilities, but the UK can't buy French utilities. Not very "communautaire", was it?
I think even listening to someone speaking French makes Brexiters frothing and foaming.
And that's what makes them blind !
Deaf and blind 🙄
@@AlexGys9 Uhhh why would a French person want to visit Great Britain?
for his warm welcome?
For these crazy prices?
To hear yourself called froggy by friendly English people?
it's a lot of advantages.... Which personally I will decline to my great shame.
@@olivierpuyou3621 You are correct, my friend. It was a poorly thought out comment and I will remove it.
Then you think wrong. To the facts, rather than the prejudices - The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@markaxworthy2508 nuclear electricity is only 17% of the total energy spent by France. I know many people don't understand it and get wrong numbers (because they don't get the gap between "electrical power" - 75 % nuclear - and total energy consumption" - 17% nuclear) : just check on the french government data if you want.
17% nuclear : nearly useless to keep low prices when Putintler starts a war and threatens Europe
Analysing the £350m figure probably wouldn't have got the Remain campaign anywhere. Brexit voters wouldn't have had the concentration to listen. They would have thought it was the Remainers who were lying, because they were using complex, rational arguments, instead of arguing from emotion and from the heart.
The power of a lie is that it takes a few words or 1 sentence.
Debunking a lie might take a full page.
The first one fits on the side of a bus, the second one doesn't.
Yes.. there really is no cure for stupid
@@ab-ym3bf
Exactly!
Yes, I always watch the German version. Good.
Brexit disaster for uk
If so, why isn't Franc doing relatively better? The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit.
Thanks Rob great Critique of Brexshit this ought to be compulsory viewing for the everybody. Well, my Son lives and works in Germany with his German Wife and their Son, my cousin, his Wife and their Family live and work in France, I shall no doubt join them, Brexit has poisoned Britain.
bye bye then.
Don't wait too long. I left plague island in 2017. In hindsight, I waited far too long.
Johnson was right: Brexit made the curtain go up for the next British drama.
And a drama it was.
and still is.
Is
A modern greek tragedy...
@@BillyBobJoeSnr
You are even more right than you may think. The etymology of "tragedy" goes:
from Classical Greek τραγῳδία, contracted from trag (o)-aoidiā = "goat song", which comes from tragos = "he-goat" and aeidein = "to sing" (cf. "ode").
Of course the goats could feel offended when compared to Johnson.
@@Rene-pn4kb Monsieur le professaire and special adviser to the EU has a new moniker. Why don't you simply use your alter ego's one, Monsieur Lamoraal?
There were other countries that discussed leaving the EU. The Brexit government expected Brexit to have a domino effect. But once other countries saw how Brexit went you stopped hearing about other countries wanting to leave.
I do resonate with the term - "Brexit is a slow poison".
That is so very true; as Brexit was backed with passion, rather than the result of a shrewd choice, acknowledging Brexit failure has become a lengthy psychological challenge.
"Slow poison" - couldn't agree more
Another word for sovereignty is B.S.
What is Britain now, an island devoid of Europe?
I wonder whose in charge, the people, peaceful coexistence or self interest.
Thank Boris! Thank Farage! My country is safe within the European community !
The UK and France have similar populations and the lead in size of economy has changed hands several times in the last half century. In 2005 France had the larger economy. In 2016 the UK had the bigger economy. Today the UK still has the bigger economy and the gap has not closed. French inflation was lower than the UK's last year because it has invested in nuclear power for decades outside EU structures and so it was less affected by Russia's war in terms of oil and gas prices. Not everything is the result of Brexit. Oh, and where is this claimed food shortage?
@@markaxworthy2508copy and paste 😂
@@helderalmeida3417 Is that a problem? If so, why, if the same message is appropriate in more than one place? What would be the point in paraphrasing the same message?
@@markaxworthy2508 Sorry my friend but in 2023 France has passed Great Britain again, but hey it's actually very similar.
Let's say that as France is twice the size of England there is surely more land available and therefore less expensive to settle there.
Bienvenue😉
If I were British I'd be very very afraid ! Especially since a lot more "ties" between the UK and the EU will be "cut" like services and more " obstacles" errected like passport controls !
And I see no chance for the UK to become a member any time soon. Not with a state debt of over 100 % !
You are obviously entitled to your opinions on Brexit and changes this will cause to UK's future relationship with the EU, but you need to be accurate with some of your facts. Although UK's debt as a percentage of its GDP stands currently at 101%, it's among the lowest of the G7 countries. France is 104%, USA 128%, Italy 147% and Japan around 200% only Germany now in recession and Canada is lower.
No need to worry about the cutting of ties to Europe: the UK is already a “faithful ally” of America in terms of foreign & defence policies (in the Tony Blair days, some British opponents to the 2d war in Irak would have said “a poodle"). My hunch is that Britain will have within ten years made its choice, which will amount to an “ever closer union”... with the USA.
As a European, I deeply regret this; but the trend is unmistakable for those who watch from outside. __ .
@@christianfournier6862 I suspect this will change especially with a new government and if the republicans and trump get their way. The majority of people in Britain aren't aligned on a values basis with America. We are far more liberal and left wing on the whole
And germany is lower because of their own rules forbid any new debt over a set limit.
@@christianfournier6862 Now what would the USA gain by ever closer ties with the UK ?
UK's role as a link between the EU and the USA - gone !
UK's standing in the world - dimished.
UK's economic clout - dwindling.
Both are in a military alliance already - so ? And I wonder when and if that UK-USA free trade will EVER happen !
Greetings from one of the neighbours just 20 miles off UK's coast, not some THOUSAND miles :)) !
Thanks for this, really fascinating. I've shared it on Twitter (I refuse to call it 'X'!)
Worth watching
I think the opposite is true. It wasn't the pandemic and Ukrainian war which made Brexit so much worse. On the contrary, they cost everyone in Europe and masked the Brexit effects. Tories were able to blame Economic woes on Covid and Ukraine. If it had only been Brexit then everyone would have seen the immediate problems only hit the UK
Go EU!!!!!
Bonne chance et bonne continuation! 👏👍🐸
Félicitations pour vos capacités de compréhension pour votre prochain test de français ~ vous n'aurez aucun problème, croyez-moi ! Je vous souhaite bonne chance depuis la Bretagne où je vis avec bonheur depuis 22 ans ! 👍🇫🇷🇪🇺🇫🇷👍
Merci, Hazel j'espère que tu as raison! C'est très dur pour un vieil homme comme moi.
I see ARTE does not have a Laura Kuenssberg they must be grateful for that
From the EU's perspective, it is of course nothing good to lose the UK as a member, but on the other side it's good getting rid such a capricious and pretentious troublemaker. Once they rejoin - which I hope will happen - they will learn their lesson, hopefully.
Don't hold your breath.
Like those trouble makers in Poland, Hungary, now Italy and maybe later France.
Maybe in 40 years time we will have another vote. For now, despite the fake polls, the majority of people just get on with their lives, nothing has significantly changed but we elect our government and our government make the rules for taxes, import fees, labour rules. We legally decide who can enter our country, some true asylum seekers and others who are well qualified and who have a job offer. Those who only seek benefits will be sent to Rwanda, Some EU countries are thinking to copy us.
@@robertwoodhouse-bm7kt As a Pole I can tell you , that the trouble Poland was doing , was a political hoax done by fascist, Trumpster - like populists from the PiS party. For this reason, among others, they have been kaputt since October 15. The vast majority of Poles are pro-EU. Eight years of shame was definitely enough for us.
🤣🤣@@robertwoodhouse-bm7kt
@@robertwoodhouse-bm7kt Polish trouble makers from PiS party have gone 15. October. We are returning from Asia again to Europe. The vast majority of Poles are pro-EU. Eight years of shame was definitely enough for us. Greetings from Poland.
I don’t think it is necessarily true to say that the remain side did not push the falsity of the £350 million on the side of the bus .
I saw this debunk many times by both reminders and even on the news , However when you are fighting against permanent headlines in the express the mail and the Sun you struggle
Tbf the Remain campaign was badly managed. Of course it didn't help with the lies and half truths spouted by the Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph ad nauseam and their non UK resident owners. Also the British population didn't take it seriously. There was austerity imposed by Osborne and Cameron and both of them were Remainers, therefore people could "stick it to Cameron " by voting for Brexit.
That'll teach him. 😒😮💨😪
The funniest ( in a dark humour way) was what I read about the commonest Google search term from the UK : What is the EU ?
On the day AFTER the referendum.
Stupid is as stupid does as Forrest Gump's mama used to say..
The UK voted "Leave" in the UK 2016 referendum on the promise of regaining lost sovereignty.
In the absolutist sense, the UK was always ultimately a sovereign nation state during it's membership of the EU. The very fact that Brexit was possible proves it. The EU never had the UK in it's sovereign grip to the extent that the UK couldn't just walk out. Which it did. So the UK was fully sovereign, in this sense, after all. However what most people mean in by "sovereignty" is the power to make or change the law of the land. In this regard the EU member states have shared or pooled sovereignty in a limited range of topics, mostly concerning the functioning of the single market, but also health and safety at work and environmental protection. Britain had no less sovereignty even in these areas, since the UK component of the "pool" extended right across all 28 member states.
The question to ask is whether or not the UK's participation in this pooled sovereignty is too high a price to pay for all the benefits of membership.
When you stay at a hotel, you have to pay your bill, you have to comply with hotel rules (no noise after 11 p.m. or whatever), but you enjoy the accommodation. You can walk out at any time. Hotel guests are not prisoners or enslaved to ther hotel.
A wider question concerns the word "we" throughout the Brexit debate. For example "We want to make Our own laws" Who are "we" ? Are "we" English, or British, or Europeans?
"We" are Europeans, we share the same historical and cultural commonalities. We may speak different languages but we are essentially descended from the same roots & from the same Christian-Judeo heritage.
Today we face Economic challenges from China and India, we face fundamentalist Islamic extremism terrorism, we face exisitential threats from Russia. In short, together we Europeans face threats from outside our borders. The EU has many faults but better to be in and in solidarity together than becom eisolationalist like N Korea.
If the Scots and Irish and Welsh have freedom to live & work in England, why not the Dutch, the Italians, the Poles? We live at a time when the Nation State is diminishing in favour of multi-layer nestled forms of gouvernance. (Regional, National, Supra-National) etc.
It's so sad to see ther UK clinging on to its old outdated notions. It;s so sad that UK has chosen it's current path of isolation and economic decline on the basis of a flawed undemocratic referendum when the people were decieved and were lied on the fool's promise of "Take Back Control" and only 37% of the electorate voted to leave, may of whom regret it today.
Politicians tend to shout "sovereignty" but for them it means coming to power. It is easier to come to power in a roughly 67M people country with a first pass the post system than in a roughly 450M people Union with a proportional representation system. Furthermore nominations to the EU government (the commission) is approved by the EU Parliament whereas it is not the case for the UK government (and other governments to be fair).
@@nco1970 Every EU country is sovereign. EU does not accept members if they are not sovereign.
One thing, as an American, I don't understand. Why does the UK have to depend on foreign oil when the North Sea has so many oil platforms? Something doesn't add up!
We sold the drilling rights to international companies who sell oil on the world markets. We should have approached it differently and used the revenues to create a sovereign wealth fund. The Conservative politicians that have been in power for most of the last 45 years believe in a small state and low tax for the wealthy, partly funded by selling state assets: electric, gas, oil, railways, steel, telecoms, water, etc.
@@tompearce3610 ..... fishing rights and quotas back then to their colleagues from other EU countries ....
But isn't that economic suicide? I mean, in the long run. I'm no economist, it just seems to me like short-term gains only.
@@EllieD.Violet we've had decades of government that haven't delivered for the UK population, nor to an extent been good to Europe for that matter. The majority of the UK want a closer relationship with the EU and many (I think most) are ashamed of this govt whose time will be at an end later this year. I'm hopeful but recognise the UK has so much to rebuild in every way, including international reputation. As part of that process we just have to hope that people can recognise that the vast majority of the UK alive today didn't want this and that we aren't permanently judged by the Conservative clown show of the last fourteen years.
@@garryferrington811 yes, short term gains and only for a few. The governments have been run by people who think that if you tax the wealthy less, they invest or spend more and that boosts the economy (proven false in so many countries) and/or that's the excuse but they resent paying any tax. The private companies put up prices and profits move abroad so a double loss for the UK. It's a bit like selling your house, to someone who lives abroad, just to have a holiday then being surprised when the rent goes up a lot and the house is kept in poor repair. We have that with water companies - lots of profit/dividends but infrastructure so bad we have sewage in our rivers...
Thank you for this video !!!
Hi Sabinenada, I hope you're well.
@@roseanne9986 thank you.
Salut Rob, it really does piss me off to read so many ignorant comments referring to higher income tax rates en France versus the UK. The basic rate of tax in the UK is 20%, en France it is 11%. Oh and by the way the French state pension is circa double the UK state pension.
On a personal note I studied French at school until the fifth form more than 50 years ago. . La France est notre pays adopte and I always use French, which I find to be a language with passion. For example en anglais you are tired, en français je suis fatigué, en anglais you are merely sorry while en français je suis désolé! When I am asked by the French “parlez vous français” I tend to no longer reply “un peu” I prefer the response that “je parle franglais …. un petit français et beaucoup anglais”. It always breaks the ice, c’est vrai.
Bon courage with your exams, and après enjoy du cognac no matter what the results are!
"J'étais ravi de lire ton commentaire" - une bonne example dont tu as exprimé!
I'm based in South west France,been here almost 20 years.I watch a lot of France24,we are getting real facts about the UK and Brexit..Good luck with the exam !
I watch France24 english every morning - my french is not good enough - yet. Real facts -- good program.
Thanks for this, Rob. This was incredibly informative. A pity that our own media, usually like rottweilers, are so frightened to tackle Brexit critically and honestly.
It must have taken quite a bit of money and/or influence to buy them all off.
For years, I have regularly watched the economic or political reports on ARTE in both French and German. And I must say that contrary to all the French-speaking and German-speaking channels and even the British channels, ARTE delivers serious information. I don't watch the BBC anymore.
It's so funny, as a French I watched the show described a few days ago, Arte is a very good channel.
Full marks to Rob for actually tracking down any Brexit content on French television. Here in Belgium I can get the French news channel LCI and I also occasionally watch France24. You can go weeks without even a reference to the UK on LCI and that despite two regular guests being French-speaking Brits! The one exception is the Royal family for which the French have a continuing fascination.
One problem is that all of the UK's trade experts said this would be a disaster. So now of those people were part of the negotiations for the post Brexit trade deal.
Glad I grabbed one of the last spaces through the channel tunnel to get a titre de sejour covered by the withdrawal agreement. Time will tell if it was a smart move. But I for one am pretty confident I will have no regrets.😂
Salut Rob
Bonne chance pour ton examen!
Si je peux me le permettre, quel est ton objectif? Tu envisage un depart vers des pastures plus vertes, un future ensoleillé?
Quoi qu'il en soit, bonne chance et bienvenue dans la communauté européenne.
Merci, Cyrille. J'adore la France est j'y visite souvent. Peut-être un jour on y déménagerai, mais ma femme est actuellement un peu resistante!
@@TruthToPower Dear Rob, i just saw your chanel for the first time and it's a very good one.
I don't want to speak about brexit (for it was, from my perspective, a disaster) but about your C1 exam.
J'adore la France - ça, c'est ok
est j'y visite souvent. - "que je visite souvent"; c'est la femme QUE j'aime, le gâteau QUE je mange etc. QUE fait la liaison entre deux morceaux de phrase qui ont été inversés dans leur sens direct (je mange un gâteau ; c'est le gâteau QUE je mange)
Peut-être un jour on y déménagerai, - "Peut-être un jour on y déménagera (futur proche) - Plus correctement nous dirions plutôt "Peut-être un jour nous y déménagerons
mais ma femme est actuellement un peu resistante! - Je souhaite à votre épouse d'être résistante mais une expression correcte aurait pu être : "mais ma femme résiste encore à ce projet
Dans tous les cas, très bonne chance pour votre examen et je croise les doigts pour vous
sincèrement
Conversely, Brexit has so far cost the EU (all 27 states together) 17.5 billion euros per year. This calculation is based on the higher costs that companies and states now incur when trading with Great Britain. (Source: FOCUS)
That's not really a cost incured on these countries, because the companies confronted with the higher costs push these costs on the customers - in the UK. So this is an additional loss for the UK. The correct calculation of how much the EU lost would be to see how much business these companies lost because they have to sell their products more expensively.
And to reduce the costs they will stop or reduce trade with Britain. The EU single market is big enough to absorb this loss, the UK market is not.
@@thedon8772The basic economic theory suggests that EU suppliers will appear within the EU to replace the UK suppliers to capture the market. Therefore in the longer term the UK firms demand will continue to decrease hence become unprofitable and collapse.
There is the inverse happening with EU suppliers but the UK consumer will be worse off.
Everybody lost in the brexit. EU and UK!
@@b.k.3280 Where the EU will recover more quickly as their market is far larger therefore can support a more diverse range of supplies, where the UK market is unable to sustain the same number of specialist manufacturers or will become wholly reliant on increasingly expensive imports.
Boris was right about it being the on-going drama. What a fool.
Danke!
Thank you, Harald!
Lock him up... Boris is a criminal liar
Our relationship is a anglogerman one, we live in Germany and before brexit we bought a lot from britain directly, paying 15 euro shipping, now we pay more shipping than the content is worth, 60 euros for dome chips and british products. It made our life not better, even when we go over. It takes longer with the border control
Some people were so annoyed at the Tories they voted Brexit and gave them 100% control of the country.
Always been my points….
Excellent video.
Don't just blame the politicians for Brexit. Voters weren't deceived, they wanted Britland for Brits. The country that controlled most of the world at one point didn't like being controlled by EU regulations. What a laugh for all of us!
And they also didn’t like to be in the same club as the French and even more the Germans who many still regard as enemies!
"They don't like it up 'em."
You actually mean England, and screw the rest!
@@geraldwagner8739 Hi Gerald - what Brexit voters told you this my friend?
Hi dmr - so you're saying that as Britain had an Empire that it should be the EU? How does that work my friend?
Wow, the French even do British Conservatives better than Britain. Surely the “rivalry” between the two countries is now well and truly concluded
yeah because Uk is not a real rival anymore. Sad but true.
All looking good 👍
It has bee quite interesting for me. ARTE is a German/French TV programme. I'm German but I speak English and French.
The arguments are all well known but there has been something new to me, the journalist said something like: The EU is not a prison so one can leave it but without costs (?).
It seemed to me that many Brits thought one could leave without any disadvantages.
The EU is not a prison, unlike the UK, which is. Ask the Scots.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw .....lol, so they (the Scots) chose prison over freedom in the 2014 referendum.......William Wallace would be so proud.
The EU is not a prison so one can leave it but WITH costs. Like a divorce you can leave but it will cost you. The journalist then said the error of Brexiters is that they think it would not.
I think it was more that you can leave it but not without costs.
@@dieterdodel835point is that the UK was free to decide at any point tonkeave the EU.
Scotland however is at the mercy of the English who decide if Scotland is allowed to leave.
The first one is a union, the second one a prison.
and the poolplug in Mordor is laughing all the way.
The referendum vote gave Brexiteers what they wanted and once achieved there was no way they were going to let go. The very right wing of the British government have shown how much power they had in government circles to persue their dogma.
In some ways, Brexit has been a positive thing in that it is over and done with. Had the "remainers" achieved a majortíty in 2016, the propoganda for a Brexit would not disappear overnight and these powerful forces would keep barking until they got what they wanted.
It is very positive that voices and demonstrations for rejoining are being made though the concept of opinion seems to be that no immediate change will happen. Personnaly, I percieve that the whole system of British politics has to undergo radical change before the conditions for rejoining become palatable to the existing EU member states.
British (rather, English) politics is just part of the problem. English mentality towards the EU is the biggest issue. Not just from politicians, but from the population.
It all starts with education and developing analytical skills.
It's my Brexit benefit! Double benefit because I am an American Revolutionary and the 1776 war didn't punish the British nearly enough. Brexit changed all that. Cheers and trebles all around!
Congrats on your new Francophone channel Rob. Even the Tory sounded more rational in French. À samedi prochain
Great reporting, it is very informative to have views from outside the UK about the reality of how bad Brexit was and is!!
Great video. It's nice to see the view from the other side of the Channel. I always found political/current affairs round tables on TV more serious and less bombastic in Europe than in the UK or the US (🤦♂). It would be interesting to find out how the EU in general has been affected by Brexit, if at all. I know, from speaking with friends back home in Germany, that there are virtually no discussion rounds about the effect of Brexit on the EU on any channel. They, themselves, never think about it at all. These friends, for the most part, work for large companies, VW, Sparkasse Bank, and a couple of others, and they all say that while things got a little rough after the UK actually left, the effects were quite small and dissipated quite quickly, and were overtaken by concerns about Covid then the Ukraine war, then, then, then; basically the usual stuff, but Brexit wasn't one of them.
Never the shelves in Dutch shops have been so overflowing with fresh produce as of late. Thanks to Brexit. Their shelves are empty, ours are overflowing. Thank you! I like my food to be top-notch and cheap at the same time. As they say in shops of the Little English who voted for Brexit: "Thanks, love."
This idea that "We have to wait a bit longer" is as ridiculous as it is insulting. If a brexiter bought an item from a shop, supermarket or department store that was defective and unfit for purpose, would they wait another fortnight for it to somehow improve? Or would they return it the next day for an exchange or full refund?
I remember when l was signing on being told by a jobcentre advisor that being out of work for just twelve months, one year classified you as long term unemployed. Yet, it's been eight years since the referendum and four years since leaving the EU. And still brexiters want more time. For what? To prove how wrong they are?
Maybe they hope for a miracle.
@@susannehartl3067 They want to live and die peacefully without earing anybody saying they screwed up the Country, something they are used to blame everybody for, particularly the EU and the Left.
Exactly - what us EU27 based commenters have been stating since years: the EU is better off without the UK.
Which why we 🇪🇺won't have you 🇬🇧 back for many a decade, even if you met the accession criteria (you dont. You meet barely 50% as of 2024).
Greetings from the EU 🇪🇺
😠 Foreign Office!
My girls are half German with German passports. Can't see them staying in the UK much longer
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat No. Forensic data analyst, employed by the US' largest and most important IT provider.
@@stevejones2310 Same here, semi-German semi-Briton dual national by birth.
In 3 weeks' time, 4th anniversary of us leaving the UK for good.
Go and live with them - immigrants welcome, even immigrants from the UK unless they are brexitards. 😊👋
And no rebate, no opt-outs no cherry picking plus both political parties must agree.
De Gaulle was right. Even though he knew what he owned to the British people he was convinced the UK place was outside of Europe because of its proximity with the US. Because of this superiority complex. That is why he imposed a referendum on the uk entry in the ECC but back then he was no longer president. And his successor supported the UK membership.
I think de Gaulle´s France already paid their due by holding off the German army at the perimeter of Dunkerque while the brits were fleeing in small boats. ( Oh the irony)
I hope Europeans dont hate all Brits. A large percentage of us also didn't vote for Brexit. That's all I'd say.
Why would we hate you Brits?
The majority voted to leave the EU based on politicians tricks.
I wouldn't say that Nigel & Boris lied, but they only mentioned the negative side of being in the EU, no mention to the positive side.
The Brexit has hit you more than it hit us.
As a citizen I stopped buying stuff online from the UK due to importation taxes.
I haven't been to the UK since the Brexit, I didn't bother getting a passport. Before the Brexit a simple ID card was enough.
I might not be the only one having ditched weekend aways in the UK, meaning maybe it affects the tourism industry.
Nice to hear that you are one of the Brits, that are into; European languages. Language skills give a greater-insight and a great deal of satisfaction!! 👍👍👍
However I have a problem, I can't shed the cultural inheritance, given to me by my French grandmother. Passion can be a problem; in a Brit environment.
Brexit ist ein Loch im Kopf.
Refreshing to hear discussion without spin. Those of us who stated what could happen as outcomes driven by Brexit have been vindicated. The tone of discussion has shifted towards undoing the processes and harms that have been toxic and destructive to the UK and its international standing.
I'm not even British, but I still like your videos. Good work.
I think we in Ireland suffer more than most in the EU. I used to be super easy and convenient to order stuff from UK suppliers. This amounted to many billions of € of trade that has now disappeared and we order from Germany and France instead.
oh the irony
Brexiteers won we all lost,
Singapore is where almost a third of the economy is owned by its own Sovereign Wealth Funds, GIC and Temasek and they provide government housing for the population. I am not sure that Conservatives have any idea how Singapore is run.
Well, human rights wise the UK is closing the gap with Singapore quite fast. Maybe the UK government thinks that's all it takes?
The taxi service in Singapore is terrible. ( At least when I was there in the 90s). If you try and flag them down in the street they drive by and ignore you.
And most of the shops and restaurants closed at 7 pm. 🇸🇬 Singapore is a dump.
@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw Singapore has changed since the Nineties. There's a lot wrong with Singapore but a 'dump' it is not.
@maartenaalsmeer
It all depends how you define the word "dump".
Just found your channel, and I'm so glad I did! Love hearing European perspectives that are not massaged by Tory bias and right wing propaganda and xenophobia. Please find more of these. Where can we watch the whole clip?
Excellent video, Rob. I remember being absolutely dumbfounded by the ignorance of people voting leave, they had absolutely no idea how economically beneficial it was for Britain to be a Member State of the EU. They were so easily conned by ridiculous Brexit propaganda. However, it is now heartening to learn that so many people that did vote to leave, now realise they were entirely lied to by the Brexiteers. It’s very unfortunate that we still have to deal with the ‘slow poison’ of Brexit, and all its adverse economic consequences. Inflation will not be coming down in the UK for a very long time. Brexit broke Britain!