Zappa would of been an amazing president,the world would be a better place.I like punk,and the new romantic wave bands but Zappa sounds like he wasnt stuck back in the 60's but flowed with the time.Brilliant musician and a man ahead of his time.RIPFrank Zappa.
I third that,I'm so glad FRANK ZAPPA existed and left behind a whole bunch of recorded stuff and unreleased stuff.R.I.P Frank.
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He is so damn observant and on point mentally. I'm glad that he didn't drink or use any drug, besides tobacco. As a lover of beer and ganja, I know we need someone sober in order to be our own honest critic, as indulgence brings a certain dullness to the mind. Frank provided sharp observations and analysis of rock 'n' roll and the counterculture that kept many of its members from becoming to deluded.
+Cullen Bohannon According to the author's of at least a couple of books, Frank did occasionally drink, he even had a favorite liquor and he even took a toke once in a while.
I remember one time he was on Dick Cavett and the band played, "Who Are The Brain Police", in a way that they never later repeated. Faster than the LP version but not as full blown as in later concerts. I would love it if someone had that show.
I heard that version first at my first MOI show oct 16, 1971. And I remember hearing it for FZ's first Cavett interview around 1971. I recently tracked it down on YT, but don't have a link.
what i find so fascinating about zappa is that he always behaved and sounded like he was saying things that noone ever even dared to think about, and how people until this day are awed by his deep wisdom
Old Dickey was a terrific interviewer, a very good listener. Often times Frankie had an arrogant tilt when asked questions about him and his music but mr Cavett seems to really be interested in what the man has to say here.
Anybody watching this should check out George Harrison on the DIck Cavett Show. It is just after Concert for Bangladesh was filmed, and it's quite an interesting interview. Dick Cavett is always wonderful.
I'll tell ya, it's our childrens understanding of race that makes you hopeful . My kids have a beautifui perspective. I was asking my son Jack about his friends and I was talking about one of his close friends and...he said..."he's the kid with a great tan" I love that so much....it's beautiful. He had no idea that his friend was different at all from him(in the grown up world")...he just had a great tan..I love you Jack. You're my Hero.
The Slits actually is led by the step daughter of the Sex Pistols lead singer MR J. LYDON (one of my heros). Zappa is a father figure to me, and Johnny Rotton( for those who do not know his real name) is my big brother. BOTH GENIUS IN THEIR OWN WAY. Thank you for the upload.
He's talking about the late Malcom McLaren who did indeed own a boutique and did indeed have a bit to do with the Punk fashion sensibility, although John Lydon often states that McLaren did not have anything to do with the music.
I really hope Dick Cavett gets back into his vault and releases more of his shows to dvd. These laid-back conversations are wonderful.You get the feeling they(the guests)were there merely for a great intellectual conversation.And the way he had such interesting pairings of guests. Mr.Cavett,let's get some more dvd sets out,will you?
Why? What's like disco now? Actually now there's things like Mgtow, where guys, even successful guys, intentionally and deliberately avoid pursuing women.
@BlueCougar Yes, the best talk show hosts were Dick Cavett and Jack Paar. When Paar left the "Tonight Show" and Johnny Carson took it over, the level of discourse plummeted. Cavett was a writer for both and remains a national treasure to say the very least. His NY Times Online column is brilliant and seeing him appear somewhere in person is fantastic. The current television talk shows, of course, are merely infomercials.
Interesting that Frank's comments regarding New Wave -- some interesting music, not just clothes -- would eventually point to Zappa alumni Terry Bozzio, his wife Dale (who performed vocal roles for Frank on 'Joe's Garage' and Warren Cuccurullo's band Missing Persons.
@myroncope I still love punk music today, I was listening to the Subhumans yesterday in my car...but you are 100% correct, it wasn't an incredible musical talent, it was about fashion and feeling, and it was a time when people were angry and needed an outlet. People are still angry today, but that outlet has been sold off for advertizing and we need to find a new release.
You're right about the ramones being the first but frank is correct about everything else. I LUV the Pistols but it is true I read a lot about them. Music was the last thing that happened w/ da pistols, it was all about fashion and attitude and gimmick. The last priority was the music. Punk is about what you said but it doesn't mean all the bands were like that. Some of them were just money grubbers doing a trend. Malcom told them to dress and play like that, they didn't originally want to.
@myroncope Thats the difference between the scene and the artist/musician. When the music became dilluted, and the message watered down, the fashion and scene took over. Through-out the last 30 years of punk, only a handfull have made sure the message was the most important. Dead Kennedys, Descendents, up through Propagandhi today, the members of some of the most original punk bands didnt crutch on an attire.
If Frank would have lived longer he'd of made a fantastic president , highly intelligent, very intellectual, very business savvy , extremely informed on both foreign & domestic affairs , him & Donald Trump would have made a great team .
***** I'm not so sure Frank would disagree with Donald trump on most issues , Frank wasn't around to experience social justice warriors , and colleges who force socialist ideology on all students , Frank hated feminism & socialism , he believed in fair trade as well as capitalism to the point he debated & beat most prominent socialists of the 60's , I watched as Bill Ayres & his weatherman thru Frank from the stage into the orchestra pit then set the building on fire , I've heard him comment on anarchism many times & his views would be more in line with Trump than against Trump .
In his last years Zappa disavowed either party, but said himself, in an interview that is on CZcams, that he was a registered Democrat. He described himself as socially liberal, but fiscally conservative. Yet he HATED the Republicans. Their threatening Czechoslovakia, President Václav Havel specifically if they allowed Zappa to be their "Special Ambassador to the West on Trade, Culture and Tourism" really earned them his ire and contempt. If you know anything about the man, have read any of his lyrics, or his autobiography, you'd know enough to realize he would have despised Trump and considered him a nonintellectual moron. He would have had nothing to do with the man. Disagree if you want, but the record speaks for itself. When Zappa considered his run for President, he said he would do it as an independent. Not a Democrat, Republican OR Libertarian. That tells you a lot right there. The Libertarian party, and Ron Paul were present even in the eighties, so it can't be said it was because he wasn't aware of them.
He was asked specifically if there was anything in that particular scene that he liked and he answered, and therefore there would be aspects of their act which would fall into the fabricated attitude of punk. As for holier than thou, he was simply stating that he was not to be associated with punk music, and frankly I don't find anything punk in what I have heard of Zappa. Any shallowness is by people who would lump him in with the punk scene as if anything not the Beach Boys is one style.
Actually, it was right on the money - at least as far as the Sex Pistols were concerned. They were nothing more than a boyband put together by Malcolm MacLaren in order to make money for him. Which they did.
@slimabbas I had a Zappa for President shirt back in the 80's, he would have been a great president, but he never would have survived past the inauguration...the owners of America would have never allowed it
@phadamblab well actually he was more than clairvoyant! especially when you look at the history of clubbing, from discos to what was called "house" music. Zappa had a real lucid eye on what was going on.
He didn't get the origins of Punk right because the Sex Pistols came out after The Ramones, who came out after The New York Dolls, who came out after MC5 And The Stooges, who came out after The Velvet Underground. If anything, The Sex Pistols signified the end of the classic Punk era.
The Ramones, Dolls, MC5, Stooges and The Velvet Underground were all great bands. The influenced musicians who later became Punks. But they were not Punk. The Sex Pistols were. The Sex Pistols appearance on the Bill Grundy show marked the day that Punk Rock ended, because it was the day that Punk began for the mass market.
The Slits? Zappa bought an album by The Slits? They were a part of the British punk scene; a direct result of the Pistols. Read Greil Marcus's Lipstick Traces. And Frank -- as great a mind as his was -- didn't catch the visceral rawness of the Pistols moment? The Pistols' entire reason for being was a reaction to the stodgy bloat that by the mid-seventies rock had become with bands like Bachman-Turner Overdrive, Foreigner & REO Speedwagon (i.e. complete dreck) raking in bank.
You mean they were terrified they might actually learn how to play? Possibly, however I doubt that's possible with their level of talent. I have to admit Sid Vicious took the best precaution and died (although in his case learning to play was the least possible option). Damn shame he did it so late though.
You know, I'm a Zappa fan and I like a lot of what he says, but I still recognize that he doesn't always know what he's talking about. I like the guy but he's definitely a music snob.
@Misterioso that's true but keep in mind zappa's music has a lot to do with intelligence and breaking new ground. Not being deconstructive and simple. Pistols were awesome and so was Zappa, but zappa was never trendy and his approach was simply genius. Not childish kicking and whinning like punk. Both had strong statements though.
@TheFigueroa007 That's not true at all. Listen to Never Mind the Bollocks... Here's the Sex Pistols. Not only is it one of the most well produced albums I've ever heard -- the guitar sound is amazing -- but the lyrics are very politically sound. There are a lot of misconceptions about the band. Their songs were actually somewhat slow compared to the later punk. John Lydon is not a stupid man and I think he was a Zappa fan too.
Frank was a very bright guy. He is truly missed.
Sheik Yerbouti is one of the best albums I've ever heard, musically and lyrically. Zappa is sorely missed....
I liked Cavetts interviews. He always tried to get to the true person and let the audience know them as they really are.
Zappa would of been an amazing president,the world would be a better place.I like punk,and the new romantic wave bands but Zappa sounds like he wasnt stuck back in the 60's but flowed with the time.Brilliant musician and a man ahead of his time.RIPFrank Zappa.
I am very glad there was a Frank Zappa.
It's certainly sad that he's gone.
You got that right!
I third that,I'm so glad FRANK ZAPPA existed and left behind a whole bunch of recorded stuff and unreleased stuff.R.I.P Frank.
He is so damn observant and on point mentally. I'm glad that he didn't drink or use any drug, besides tobacco. As a lover of beer and ganja, I know we need someone sober in order to be our own honest critic, as indulgence brings a certain dullness to the mind. Frank provided sharp observations and analysis of rock 'n' roll and the counterculture that kept many of its members from becoming to deluded.
+Cullen Bohannon According to the author's of at least a couple of books, Frank did occasionally drink, he even had a favorite liquor and he even took a toke once in a while.
+if6was929 He even smoked weed a few times, but wasn't really into it.
I'm actually kind of curious as to what he could have came up with on acid or peyote or something like that, I mean with a mind like his.
He said that he smoked a total of 10 marijuana cigarettes in his life... He said it made him sleepy and didn't like it !
I remember one time he was on Dick Cavett and the band played, "Who Are The Brain Police", in a way that they never later repeated. Faster than the LP version but not as full blown as in later concerts. I would love it if someone had that show.
I heard that version first at my first MOI show oct 16, 1971. And I remember hearing it for FZ's first Cavett interview around 1971. I recently tracked it down on YT, but don't have a link.
The fact that Frank liked The Slits & Lene Lovich makes me smile
The slits lead singer is johnny rotten's daughter
He ain't got kids
i think she died-at least one of slits did
step daughter, really
Lene Lovich is great.
Franck Zappa should have been a great president...The guy have a brain and he used it...Bless him
first inteview i've seen of Zappa and really liking everything he said so far.
Nam Tran, there are loads more but I suspect you've found them by now.
what i find so fascinating about zappa is that he always behaved and sounded like he was saying things that noone ever even dared to think about, and how people until this day are awed by his deep wisdom
MoveOverCasanova. yes, he had a way of cutting through the b.s
Old Dickey was a terrific interviewer, a very good listener. Often times Frankie had an arrogant tilt when asked questions about him and his music but mr Cavett seems to really be interested in what the man has to say here.
Great to see Zappa get some time to talk, and not just "here's the wierdo - goodbye"
His whole attitude reeked of badass and total coolness. He would be my first choice as a partner in a debate, lol, the man was a true genius.
The band names mentioned at 4:35 are The Slits, Lene Lovich, and Gerry And The Holograms.
Anybody watching this should check out George Harrison on the DIck Cavett Show. It is just after Concert for Bangladesh was filmed, and it's quite an interesting interview. Dick Cavett is always wonderful.
Spot on about the Pistols and McClaren...Frank style...His new wave assessment is spot on as well
How many of today's popular musicians would be able to speak as Zappa did? Quite the intellect.
Man, if only Zappa could see the slime on the TV now...
I'll tell ya, it's our childrens understanding of race that makes you hopeful . My kids have a beautifui perspective. I was asking my son Jack about his friends and I was talking about one of his close friends and...he said..."he's the kid with a great tan" I love that so much....it's beautiful. He had no idea that his friend was different at all from him(in the grown up world")...he just had a great tan..I love you Jack. You're my Hero.
Sunday Spencer. the guy with a great tan? that sounds racist to me
The Slits actually is led by the step daughter of the Sex Pistols lead singer MR J. LYDON (one of my heros). Zappa is a father figure to me, and Johnny Rotton( for those who do not know his real name) is my big brother. BOTH GENIUS IN THEIR OWN WAY. Thank you for the upload.
The interview starts at 2:00
He's talking about the late Malcom McLaren who did indeed own a boutique and did indeed have a bit to do with the Punk fashion sensibility, although John Lydon often states that McLaren did not have anything to do with the music.
Long live Zappa , RIP .
if anyone hasnt seen the zappa interview on 'crossfire' check it out. he just sweeps the floor with them!
''As long as people want to get laid, they're will be disco or something like it'' how true, even today
Nice shout out to Lene Lovich..."Lucky Number" is a pretty cool song.
I really hope Dick Cavett gets back into his vault and releases more of his shows to dvd.
These laid-back conversations are wonderful.You get the feeling they(the guests)were there merely for a great intellectual conversation.And the way he had such interesting pairings of guests.
Mr.Cavett,let's get some more dvd sets out,will you?
They have Bleeker Bob's on a Seinfeld episode
Too true. The skill is now finding the stuff that DOESN'T suck.
that guy in England was Malcolm Robert Andrew McLaren.
Zappa released Essra Mohawk's 1st record SANDY'S ALBUM IS HERE AT LAST on his Verve/Bizarre label.
"As long as people want to get laid, there will be something like a disco." And here we are... the man was not wrong!
Why? What's like disco now? Actually now there's things like Mgtow, where guys, even successful guys, intentionally and deliberately avoid pursuing women.
@@unfortunatebeam pop music. All this electronic, over synthesized garbage with trash beats and brainless lyrics.
Further listening, hes speaking of a discotheque, or, as theyre called today, clubs. Its the same.
House, techno and EDM in general took off where disco left
I know I’ve got a record by The Slits stashed away somewhere.
I think it was an EP and not a full length album.
I know I bought it in the 1980s.
agree, one of the few good interviewers ever.
I estimate this being aired somewhere between 78' - 79'
I miss you Frank.... peace.
@BlueCougar Yes, the best talk show hosts were Dick Cavett and Jack Paar. When Paar left the "Tonight Show" and Johnny Carson took it over, the level of discourse plummeted. Cavett was a writer for both and remains a national treasure to say the very least. His NY Times Online column is brilliant and seeing him appear somewhere in person is fantastic. The current television talk shows, of course, are merely infomercials.
“Jewish Princess with an aroma that could level Tacoma” So cool that he gets the Tacoma aroma reference. Sure miss this dude.
Frank knows all about the marketing strategy behind The Sex Pistols because he did the same thing when prefabricating his image in the late 60's.
Imagine him in this P.C. world..lol
He is intimidated by Frank. I mean, he wasn't expecting someone this sharp.
zappa is a legend, dont now much about dancing thats why i got this song 1 of my legs r shorter than the other and both my feet r to small
Very intelligent man!
Interesting that Frank's comments regarding New Wave -- some interesting music, not just clothes -- would eventually point to Zappa alumni Terry Bozzio, his wife Dale (who performed vocal roles for Frank on 'Joe's Garage' and Warren Cuccurullo's band Missing Persons.
The issue of the "The Anti Defamation League" has a PR group who maintains a stance on how Jewish people are perceived is a little maniacal.
Well, Disco isn't really here, but dance music (i.e. house, trance) is, which is like another form, as Zappa mentions.
Yes, that's correct. I personally know the month was June as well!
6:58 is just perfect.
lol-Dick Cavett commenting on the "rock scene"
@myroncope I still love punk music today, I was listening to the Subhumans yesterday in my car...but you are 100% correct, it wasn't an incredible musical talent, it was about fashion and feeling, and it was a time when people were angry and needed an outlet. People are still angry today, but that outlet has been sold off for advertizing and we need to find a new release.
I liked Zappa's music when I was younger but I didn't like a lot of the lyrics in his songs,but thats Zappa
You're right about the ramones being the first but frank is correct about everything else. I LUV the Pistols but it is true I read a lot about them. Music was the last thing that happened w/ da pistols, it was all about fashion and attitude and gimmick. The last priority was the music. Punk is about what you said but it doesn't mean all the bands were like that. Some of them were just money grubbers doing a trend. Malcom told them to dress and play like that, they didn't originally want to.
@myroncope Thats the difference between the scene and the artist/musician. When the music became dilluted, and the message watered down, the fashion and scene took over.
Through-out the last 30 years of punk, only a handfull have made sure the message was the most important. Dead Kennedys, Descendents, up through Propagandhi today, the members of some of the most original punk bands didnt crutch on an attire.
If Frank would have lived longer he'd of made a fantastic president , highly intelligent, very intellectual, very business savvy , extremely informed on both foreign & domestic affairs , him & Donald Trump would have made a great team .
***** I'm not so sure Frank would disagree with Donald trump on most issues , Frank wasn't around to experience social justice warriors , and colleges who force socialist ideology on all students , Frank hated feminism & socialism , he believed in fair trade as well as capitalism to the point he debated & beat most prominent socialists of the 60's , I watched as Bill Ayres & his weatherman thru Frank from the stage into the orchestra pit then set the building on fire , I've heard him comment on anarchism many times & his views would be more in line with Trump than against Trump .
In his last years Zappa disavowed either party, but said himself, in an interview that is on CZcams, that he was a registered Democrat. He described himself as socially liberal, but fiscally conservative. Yet he HATED the Republicans. Their threatening Czechoslovakia, President Václav Havel specifically if they allowed Zappa to be their "Special Ambassador to the West on Trade, Culture and Tourism" really earned them his ire and contempt.
If you know anything about the man, have read any of his lyrics, or his autobiography, you'd know enough to realize he would have despised Trump and considered him a nonintellectual moron. He would have had nothing to do with the man. Disagree if you want, but the record speaks for itself.
When Zappa considered his run for President, he said he would do it as an independent. Not a Democrat, Republican OR Libertarian. That tells you a lot right there. The Libertarian party, and Ron Paul were present even in the eighties, so it can't be said it was because he wasn't aware of them.
Michael Ledford Trump's owned by Israel though. Although he's a hell of a lot better than Hellary. And he pisses off SJWs which is funny.
this man is a genius
Frank Zappa is my god!!!
do you know the year of this?.. 79 or sth like that?¿
Muchas Gracias!!
The Slits!
Actually Franks favorite singer was Marta Kubisova!! See why!
He was fucking right, disco is still here
Michael Holt. Are you related to the snooker player Michael Holt by any chance?
@@barflytom3273 Nope.
@@snakeweirdo thanks for the answer. take care.
Frank is a really Smart guy...)
Agreed, the shoes, er uh, rock ...
He was asked specifically if there was anything in that particular scene that he liked and he answered, and therefore there would be aspects of their act which would fall into the fabricated attitude of punk. As for holier than thou, he was simply stating that he was not to be associated with punk music, and frankly I don't find anything punk in what I have heard of Zappa. Any shallowness is by people who would lump him in with the punk scene as if anything not the Beach Boys is one style.
I love Frank jappa almost as much as chicken massomam
De Nada.
Can a native english speaker please write down the names of the new wave bands that zappa recomends at 4:35? I just don´t get them all. THANKS A LOT!
Actually, it was right on the money - at least as far as the Sex Pistols were concerned. They were nothing more than a boyband put together by Malcolm MacLaren in order to make money for him. Which they did.
why dont listen again to what he says. he explains it pretty clearly at 4:30
@beradification He'd probably praise her for being weird. He never criticized Madonna or MJ.
Baby Snakes came out in about 79 or 80. I'd guess the date of the interview.
@slimabbas I had a Zappa for President shirt back in the 80's, he would have been a great president, but he never would have survived past the inauguration...the owners of America would have never allowed it
@phadamblab well actually he was more than clairvoyant! especially when you look at the history of clubbing, from discos to what was called "house" music. Zappa had a real lucid eye on what was going on.
He didn't get the origins of Punk right because the Sex Pistols came out after The Ramones, who came out after The New York Dolls, who came out after MC5 And The Stooges, who came out after The Velvet Underground. If anything, The Sex Pistols signified the end of the classic Punk era.
The Ramones, Dolls, MC5, Stooges and The Velvet Underground were all great bands. The influenced musicians who later became Punks. But they were not Punk. The Sex Pistols were.
The Sex Pistols appearance on the Bill Grundy show marked the day that Punk Rock ended, because it was the day that Punk began for the mass market.
That´s your opinion !
if frank zappa heard "another girl,another planet" he'd be mightly impressed does he mention punk had a uniform too?
The Slits? Zappa bought an album by The Slits? They were a part of the British punk scene; a direct result of the Pistols. Read Greil Marcus's Lipstick Traces.
And Frank -- as great a mind as his was -- didn't catch the visceral rawness of the Pistols moment? The Pistols' entire reason for being was a reaction to the stodgy bloat that by the mid-seventies rock had become with bands like Bachman-Turner Overdrive, Foreigner & REO Speedwagon (i.e. complete dreck) raking in bank.
him and stern
Ok, thanks.
The Pistols have reunited a shit load of times since and have toured.
haha, he's fucking brilliant.
Its the guy from Engalnd!!!!
You mean they were terrified they might actually learn how to play? Possibly, however I doubt that's possible with their level of talent. I have to admit Sid Vicious took the best precaution and died (although in his case learning to play was the least possible option). Damn shame he did it so late though.
Nice!!!!
Oh Shit I must be tripping. I see Perry Farrell here.
What's the date of the interview?
@XxBowieTipxX lol, that's not all he's opposed to. What he is a proponent of is the problem.
in what year was this interview?
It has a rubber girl.
Buruglen er sikkert fra Østfold...)
who is jersey shore ?
Why is the vision so dark?
Because I'm paranoid. I'm very paranoid.
what year
You know, I'm a Zappa fan and I like a lot of what he says, but I still recognize that he doesn't always know what he's talking about. I like the guy but he's definitely a music snob.
,,,garlic aroma that could level Tacoma...
That could level to coma...
@Misterioso that's true but keep in mind zappa's music has a lot to do with intelligence and breaking new ground. Not being deconstructive and simple. Pistols were awesome and so was Zappa, but zappa was never trendy and his approach was simply genius. Not childish kicking and whinning like punk. Both had strong statements though.
As far as I know he tried to - I've read somewhere Lemmy Kilmiser had given Sid some lessons but to no avail. Somehow, I'm not surprised.
@TheFigueroa007 That's not true at all. Listen to Never Mind the Bollocks... Here's the Sex Pistols. Not only is it one of the most well produced albums I've ever heard -- the guitar sound is amazing -- but the lyrics are very politically sound. There are a lot of misconceptions about the band. Their songs were actually somewhat slow compared to the later punk. John Lydon is not a stupid man and I think he was a Zappa fan too.
That's probably why Hicks and Carlin are dead too. They were speaking too loudly.
Carlin was an old man