BioShock's Ken Levine & his Broadway favorites - You Gotta Hear This! feat. Troy Baker
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2023
- In honor of STRAY GODS' imminent release, Troy and I discuss a few Broadway musical classics chosen by our special guest: game director and writer extraordinaire Ken Levine (known for Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite, System Shock 2 and the forthcoming Judas)
More episodes of YOU GOTTA HEAR THIS:
• You Gotta Hear This
Wishlist STRAY GODS on Steam:
store.steampowered.com/app/19...
(Also coming out on PS4/PS5, Xbox, and Switch)
Edited by Dallas Crane
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Thank you Austin, for opening my eyes & ears to whole styles and realms of music I can't say I had ever given much thought to prior to discovering your content.
I'm so happy to read this!
Holy shit, Ken Levine?! I love this man. Just yesterday, I was thinking about God Only Knows and what it means in the context of Infinite... so powerful. Like, I get emotional thinking about how perfect that song choice is. And what a special game! Every bit as good as BioShock 1, albeit with different intentions.
Edit: God Only Knows what I'd be without Ken's writing, lol.
Couldn't agree more re: Ken's writing. Deeply affecting for me as gamer. He casts a long shadow on the art form!
The Police thing goes even farther. Miles Copeland Jr (the father) was actually in the CIA. Stewart and Miles Copeland III founded Illegal Records, & Miles III started I.R.S. Records as well.
Another great episode. iTunes decided to forget all of the song info for my library, so I’ve spent the last month manually re-entering all the info. It sucks, but it’s allowed me to re-visit a lot of music I haven’t listened to in a long time. Yesterday’s group had Little Shop of Horrors in it (and Chess), so I’ve been listening to that all day.
Well done, once again. Can’t wait for the next one.
Yes! Daddy Copeland was a CIA operative, and the family grew up between, Morocco, Beirut, and the UK (among other places I’m sure).
As a deep musical theatre nerd, this was such a blast to hear you all chat and also nerd out.
I have been waiting for a musical theatre episode! So pumped!
I was a theater kid all throughout elementary and middle school, so this one especially hits home for me!!
Until now, I had no idea Alan Menken wrote for both Little Shop and Little Mermaid; but now I know why "Somewhere That's Green," and "Part of Your World," sound so similar!
Jean Michel Jarre's "Oxygene" is a great example of what your tools do for you, and then you start remastering and updating and sequeling again and again and then some more. (Tubular Bells, too.)
Cabaret is one of my all-time favorites, and Tomorrow Belongs to Me is a perfect encapsulation of why. It stands in such stark contrast to everything else in the musical that it almost seems like it comes out of nowhere. It gives you this feeling that everything you've been watching up until this point was just a weird fever dream, and that this world, the world where nature is idyllic and people hold hands in communities of perfect unified nazi pride, is the REAL world that you're waking up into. I've seen it live on three separate occasions and even in the amateur productions it's always absolutely bone-chilling.
That last sentence ... I absolutely love when something can be performed by community groups or high schoolers and retain its power. A true measure of quality
glad to have this podcast back in my life
I had never heard "tomorrows belongs to me" before, but I cannot begin to describe the chills I got when Ken gave the context for the song. Listening to it I imagined a hopeful scene about looking to the future, but knowing where it all went just fills me with dread. It really shows how easy evil can be disguised and sold to people
I loved Troy’s point when he was talking about how much he loves being the dumbest guy in the room. There’s something so much fun about listening to a passionate person talk about something you have no knowledge of.
I like musicals but I’m not a huge musical guy, so it was great listening to this episode! I have seen Little Shop of Horrors though, that one absolutely slaps.
Holy shit Austin, now everyone thinks I hate Hamilton! ⚰
In my defense, he played one "poppy track" in the car during one of our LONG DISTANCE CALLS
Hahah!! Your criticism wasn't wrong! It doesn't hold up production-wise. You made me realize I was listening "through" that
@@awintory THE DAMAGE IS DONE! I better hide from the internet for a while 🥷
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@@awintory Such a lovely back and forth.
I'm a musical theatre music director, and I loved this talk! Very insightful about the impact and storytelling available in the medium - but I'm bummed you guys didn't mention Stephen Sondheim!!!
Sondheim is the ultimate god. But this was ultimately a list curated by Ken and very much about those which personally have spoken to him. Nothing academic about it :)
Hahahaha, I clocked the last one in 2 words! My high school did this my senior year and it was the last school play I went to...I was just talking to my mom about it 2 days ago...can't believe that was 26 years ago...
I wish this episode was 3 hours long!! I always enjoy these Austin, but the 3 of you talking about this is such good conversation I really didn't want it to end!
My ex was (is, still) a huge musical buff, Broadway and all, who taught me to at least respect the craft, even if it doesn't do wonders for my particular taste, especially in film. I've been left with the impression, though, that as far as genuine US artistic expression goes, musicals had always been close to the top. It's interesting to see you 3 shedding light on the fact that its appeal even at home isn't actually universal.
Another great episode, even tho I only really know Superstar (I remember jamming super hard with my brother and cousins when we were kids, despite having 0 idea what any of the words meant :D ) it's super interesting because I have a weird love/hate relationship with musicals/opera so its either the best thing ever or I hate it. The 2012 Les Misérables is the only movie I had to stop after 15 minutes it was so unbearable. (maybe its just Tom Hoopers fault)
Anyways thank you for making these despite your probably insane schedule. I know you most likely already have 100s of episode ideas, I just want to thow one in the hat: We all know the sentimental oboe and the triumphant horns and heroic trumpets, what is some unorthodox instrument usage in film music.
Also also cant wait for Stray Gods (wishlist it people! :) )
Funny enough "Les Mis" is one of the very few musicals I can stand. "West Side Story", "JC Superstar" and "Phantom of the Opera" being the only other ones.
And I have to suffer through one yearly, because I work at an opera house and we produce a musical at the opening of each season. And even if I'm not directly involved in that particular season, I usually have to work on it anyway because we have so many shows of that production, that we have to share the workload on it.
I hate it. Especially because we do them in translations. And I dislike nothing more than translated musicals. (I'm utterly convinced that is why Hamilton failed over here. I should have betted money on it. Not only is the story of that one so extremely tied to the U.S. history that it is hard for other audiences to connect to it on the same level, and then not having it done in english?! What a stupid idea! But I digress...)
I did not start working at the opera to have to bother with Musicals.
Nontheless I look forward to "Stray Gods" very much, because I think the design idea just deserves exploring.
1:07:31: That Alan Menken story makes perfect sense, actually. There's a video floating around CZcams wherein he finally receives an official statue for the "Worst Song" "Razzie" award he'd previously won for "High Times, Hard Times" from the 1992 film "Newsies". During his recorded acceptance, he very pointedly makes a show of putting the award in a cabinet and in the process calling attention to all the Oscars he'd won up to that point.
one for the books
Come on Ken I'm really waiting for System Shock 2 The Musical
Through the somewhat low-res footage in this video podcast... That painting behind you looks like something done by the legendary Disney artist, Eyvind Earle
It is! It's a numbered print (among a very limited run), authorized by Earle himself.
@@awintory oh wow that is fantastic!
❤
Mate I'm a huge fan of you keep up all the good work your doing
You are truly a great inspiration to me
Ken levine is a genius
Fact
Great episode. Will you do part 2 with the rest of Kevin’s picks?
For the time being, I think that was it!
The circumcision story… Jesus Christ lmao
Close, Troy! The record label was IRS Records, *not* CIA.
Ahh good trivia
New episode anytime soon? 🥺
Next up :)
The similarities between Burr and Judas are really fascinating to me and go almost to the point of homage lol. Both are close confidants of the hero who betray them, but also both fill a half-narrator role toward the audience and agonize over what they've done. And honestly their viewpoints aren't too different - Wait For It, talk less, smile more, stop pissing off the people who can shoot you.
Is this podcast on any other platform than CZcams?
As of now, no
I sure hope I can be a special guest in this series sometime.
Ken…
What are you doing going on these ridiculous podcasts dude ? 🤭
Bringing awesomeness