The TRUTH about Supermarket Salmon
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- čas přidán 6. 02. 2024
- A lot of the things we buy at the grocery store we assume to be what it says it is, but if you’ve watched any of our videos you know that isn’t always the case. Today we’re diving into the murky waters of the fishing industry, to understand why so many people are getting catfished at the till.
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As a marine biologist with a masters degree in aquaculture I feel like I have to comment on some things in this video. Firstly I am happy that you actually took the time to do a lot of research and not just believed all the bs that is being said about wild fisheries and aquaculture.
1. You should use the terms fisheries and aquaculture in a way where you clearly state which is which, because it was unclear to me which one you were talking about a lot of the time. The aquaculture industry is its own big industry totally removed from wild fisheries.
2. Farmed salmon eats pellets largely based on plant protein as you mentioned, and therefore astaxanthin has to be added in order to get the desired colour on the fish fillets. This is also an antioxidant which helps with different functions in the fish’s body. The picture you showed is not a representable image of the difference between wild and farmed fish because you can add as much or little asta as you want in order to achieve the colour you desire. This heavily depends on which hue of pink the market prefers.
3. You said you thought aquaculture was a bad idea, and I have to disagree. There are several types of aquaculture that work very well. However, I do agree that salmon farming has its issues. If you look at how far the industry has come in its short lifetime of 50 years, there are not many other protein producers which can compare. 1kg of feed output 1kg of fish in salmon aquaculture. I believe that if we want healthy, sustainable, water efficient and protein efficient farmed meat, aquaculture is the way to go.
4.When it comes to wild vs farmed fish, there is not such a negative association with it in Europe or Asia as in Canada/US. I wish that it was just marketed as what it is and that people could get a better attitude towards farmed fish. Wild is not always better. It contains a lot more heavy metals for instance.
There are also several issues with moving this industry on land. That could be an entirely different video..
Thank You 🙏. As a fishmonger it's so annoying to explain this to people because of the bs propaganda they are feeding them. I also worry about overfishing every season. Sure I'm in the business of selling but there is only so much wild fish for the taking and with the unpredictable weather patterns it's hurting some industries. Farming could be a great solution if more people would get on board.
Finally, someone who also knows what they are talking about!
Another Marine Biologist here. I also worked in aquaculture but before that, I worked as a Fisheries Observer in Alaska.
I learned, firsthand, that "wild fish" is synonymous with massive environmental destruction. The cod fishery can kill up to half(!) the round weight in bycatch! It was disgusting and heartbreaking. The worse part, the Alaskan cod fishery is listed as "green". Which is absurd if you knew anything about it.
I buy farmed fish as a general rule unless its a wild fishery I know has low bycatch and is actually managed for real. It's a small list!
@@deadfujoshi796 I totally agree with you. I don’t remember the exact number now, but I believe that 80% of wild fish populations are either overfished or at their limit, so if we want to eat more fish in the future it will have to be farmed fish. A lot of countries are very strict with regards to legislation, ecosystems and fish welfare etc, like Iceland, Norway and the Faroe Islands. There is still a way to go, but the aquaculture industry needs to do a lot of positive marketing for themselves to get the consumers on board.
@@diandrad1414 Your streak of pragmatism is infectious! You'll eat fucking tilapia and like it!!!!!!!!
I always thought the fish industry was a little fishy ... 🤔
Good one 😂
This is the comment. 👆🏻
I always ensure the scales are correct. Get it?
Get out
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many years ago, possibly 20 or more... when the Salmon craze went wild as a healthy "diet"... there was a mysterious ailment in the San Francisco area where upper middle class folks were showing signs of hair loss and other effect to their health that couldn't be diagnosed... a specialist in toxicology was brought in and it was discovered that all of them had increased their intake in wild caught Salmon because they could afford it and were suffering from Mercury poisoning... If I remember, they were eating salmon 3-5 times a week...
For Canadians there is Skipper Otto which is a community supported fishery. It's like a CSA box you get from a local farm, in that you buy a share of the season's catch upfront at the beginning of the year and then cash those shares for fish throughout the year. It's all flash frozen at sea by small family fishing operations, so it cuts out most of the middle men and doesn't encourage over-fishing based on market demand. I've been with them for a few years now and I love getting the little blurb about the fishers and boats that caught my meal. (not at all an ad, I just like fish and am happy to have found a pretty sustainable solution)
Yes! Love this comment!
Ooo this concept is cool. Ty
Can you name your fish and get photos of their development?
As someone who lives in a Western-EU country with a lot of local strawberry farming, I can tell you that factory farmed isn't nearly as good.
That goes for pretty much all berries, actually. I've grown all sorts of berries. While properly grown unadulterated strawberries are often smaller, they also tend to have a lot more flavour packed into it, whereas the modified factory farmed ones have a lot more water, and were grown mostly for weight, size, and to look appealing. Not actually to taste better.
"Farm salmon labelled as wild salmon"
But at least it's still salmon
"not even the right species"
But it's still fish, right? Right???
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It's a uh... It's uh... Like a squirrel thing
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@@WindowsXP_logon_sound_25yrsago it's a seal
"just buy the expensive stuff" must be nice.
Or go fish your own
Yeah I guess just be richer is the answer to everything right?
or don't buy it. you are not gonna die
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. I don't know how they've made all of these videos on capitalist exploitation and lies and haven't arrived at the point. It doesn't JUST HAPPEN that every product and industry on earth is in some way unethical. We know why it has grown to become unethical. There is one answer.
the idea that you get what you pay for is easily exploited by scammers, they're not going to give you the mislabeled stuff at the same price, you'd be suspicious. So I go for the cheap stuff, and count on the other scam, that states that European consumer protection measures are airtight and all food you buy and tapwater you drink is a-ok...
Every single problem in our world points back to wealthy companies having too much power. Nothing will change until that changes.
Many people are born too quickly without coming up with solutions to problems before the problems actually occur is the problem, we need to be proactive not reactive, over population is a bad thing, very bad
problems, maybe, but we also owe them for cheapening of the goods, as the large companies are the ones with ability to optimize and streamline. sometimes at the cost of cheap labor, welp, it is complicated. but we do buy the cheaper option, so who is really to blame here?
Well, they do have too much power but it's not the root of the problem (it's a symptom imo). If decentralisation ever happens, the real issue will no longer have much obfuscating it: consumerism on our very populous planet. Yes, we can and should blame companies for drumming up (manipulating) demand as well as supplying as much as they do (especially going to the lengths they do to maintain supply). But the fact is that as long as there will be people who want, there will be people who supply. Decentralise power and it just means more entities supplying. It doesn't really matter if it's 3 companies plundering the planet or it's 15 for example.
I understand why blaming the masses is not the first thing that ought to happen (companies need to be ethical first and foremost) but this constant focus on the rhetoric of power toppling creates this low accountability landscape. I understand there's a sliding scale of convenience but I can't help but pause for a moment when a person is tweeting, "eat the rich", on their iPhone. Until accountability becomes a norm and not just a facet of eco-awareness (at convenience's sake), nothing is going to change. I'm not saying this from my ivory tower, I'm saying this knowing how pervasive the issue is and I usut refuse to paint it as an us vs them issue. Because the fact is that in predominantly capatitalistic economies, there are market forces that result in there being few big companies in the given industries. And market forces are due to both companies and consumers.
So how exactly is decentralisation ever going to happen if the average person doesnt care to be conscious of who they're buying from and what exactly it is they're buying? Plus, it'd honestly be easier to get people to vote with their wallet if accountability was the norm.
Two things I do have to mention:
1) It's exceedingly difficult to vote with your wallet when you can't afford the luxury of choice. Price by and large dictates what people can and do buy. That won't be so much the case if the cost of living wasn't so high. If companies paid more fairly (ie, matching inflation) and governments and companies took better care of people, then people would be able to vote with their wallets easier.
2) If companies were less capatitalistic and they themselves pushed or supported the agenda of decentralisation or at the very least didn't fight it, the process would require the masses cooperating less. Which also brings up the huge issue of companies deepening ideological and philosophical divisions.
Yes! I was hoping you’d do a video on this. Awesome, thanks guys. As an ex fishmonger, this is a HUGE problem that most people don’t know about.
Thank you! Yeah there's so much more we could have got into but this is at least a starting point for a conversation. 👍🏻
You should look in to Vanilla Beans. I'm always skeptical on how cheap it is at Costco and other stores.
Ooooooooo great suggestion!
Real Vanilla does exist in super markets. Its easier and cheaper to recreate it then buying it imported plus its not as sweet as artificial Vanilla
That's one of the things they're taking a loss on to get you into the store to buy things they DON'T lose on.
Olive oil fraud too, it's a huge issue with the mafia in Italy making counterfeit olive oil by outsourcing it from cheap stock and slapping a label on it. Because of this I prefer Tunisian Greek or Palestinian olive oil
@@FutureProofTV Or how about counterfeit saffron? "Extra virgin" Olive oil? Cassia being passed off as cinnamon? (That one's actually legal and happens all the time but most people don't seem to care) You could probably do a whole series just on food lies.
you're one of my favorite YT channels, super informative and easy to digest! keep it up, you deserve more subscribers!
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I always figured that I couldn't trust labels like 'farmed' vs 'wild' so I've never bothered to buy or eat wild salmon. 🤷
same here, I go for the cheap stuff, at least then you know it's not accidently a happy wild salmon that spent his childhood in a clean pristine ocean, then made a fantastic journey through clean waters to end up in a Canadian wildlife reserve where a healthy happy man then catches it ... I shiver at that idea...
Fishing industry is also one of the biggest contributors to plastic in the ocean :(
fishing industry isn't a monolith, its like saying the plastic industry is one of the biggest contributors to plastic in the ocean. Like yet but that's a meaningless statement.
YEeeeeeep just to add insult to injury...
@@matthewjohnson2702 No, it isn't a meaningless statement. Any statement like that is necessarily, and therefore implicitly, talking about averages. Nobody thinks every fishing fleet, from one guy in a dingie to dozens of hundreds of trawlers, are exactly the same. I don't even know how you would be able to get the data to quantify anything *except* statistical averages.
Assuming it's true, then based on what I know about data gathering in the field, I assume it's measured based on the type and quantity of plastic that's found in the ocean, - at least the ones that can be traced back to their root industry. We can't say that Jim the Fisherman tossed out that specific piece of plastic, but we can probably guess that that piece of plastic came from the fishing industry based on what it is. Presumably the majority, or at least plurality, of traceable plastic that's measured and sampled comes from fishing boats and adjacent industrial practices.
@@bearlytamedmodels do you really think the general public has any meaningful understanding of different types of commercial fishing or the waste associated with them?
I disagree entirely. The general public knows fuck all about fishing. Generally public’s inmate base is off documentaries from Netflix or some other such nonsense.
And yes I’m sure you don’t know how to get data except from statistical averages. But that doesn’t mean that data can’t be had, isn’t easy to acquire, and isn’t already out there. Some fisheries use little to no plastic for fucks sake.
Plastic is one reason to boycott products of the fishing industry.
This video gives us more reasons to boycott animal products!
To get Omega 3 without eating fish, eat ground flax, walnuts, chia seeds, or an algae based supplement.
Some people, restaurants, and industries actually do add dye to foods. That's not a myth. That has happened. And still does happen.
I'm really enjoying your content! Ty for all the information, we need more of this.
Another product category with just absurd amounts of counterfeits and mislabeling is olive oil.
Regular sold as extra virgin, mixed oils sold as pure olive oil, you can even find bottles labeled as olive oil that have never even seen an olive before.
And it's not rare either with some estimations daring to guess that the majority of olive oils sold globally to consumers are mislabeled on at least some level. But since testing it all is expensive and time consuming there's very little being done about it.
What??? 😢 Please link references I would love to look into this topic.
just buy award winning oils, they arent that much more expensive
@@sophiale1590 Johnny Harris did a whole piece about this called "Your olive oil is probably a lie"
Not a problem for me, the olive oil I consume comes directly from my olival.
it's a shame for consumers wanting specifically extra virgin oil, but for me personally, I don't mind what kind of olive oil I get as long as it is actually still from an olive, I don't do anything with it that would require a highly specific product, and 99% of my cooking is done with sesame oil anyway
Oh man as a pescatarian this was tough to watch. I mostly eat Tilapia and it seems like it's mainly farm raised. I otherwise eat veg based meals and so far things have done well. Salmon is a rare treat for me, but oddly I've mainly avoided buying it BECAUSE it said it was wild as I've heard that there can be higher mercury content in wild caught fish but maybe that's old data.
Anyway, great video as always, been watching you since your bidet video!
Thanks for being here! ( and good luck with the fish situation)
Farmed fish have their own health drawbacks. There are plant based sources of omega 3. Fish get omega 3 from eating algae. You could just take an algae based supplement and get the omega 3 from the original source. "One of the biggest concerns with farm-raised fish is its potential to contain industrial chemicals, including terephthalic acid (TPA) and polyvinyl chloride (PVC). Fish raised in farms may also contain chemicals used to "improve" their coloring (e.g. the salmon you buy that appears ultra-pink), which could have an impact on our health."-UCLA Health
Title-"Thinking of adding more fish to your diet? Consider the health risks of farm-raised seafood"
Any wild caught fish has higher mercury/metal content. The issue is the mislabeling and we need to hold companies/supermarket accountable for proper raising or sourcing
"One of the biggest concerns with farm-raised fish is its potential to contain industrial chemicals, including terephthalic acid (TPA) and polyvinyl chloride (PVC). Fish raised in farms may also contain chemicals used to "improve" their coloring (e.g. the salmon you buy that appears ultra-pink), which could have an impact on our health. Because of the conditions in which most farmed fish are raised, microbial contamination of their habitat could also pose a health threat to us and to wild populations of fish, which we have seen in wild- and farmed-salmon populations in the Pacific Northwest.
And then there's the question of the antibiotics. Just as there are health concerns over antibiotics used in livestock, such as chickens and cattle, farmed-raised fish also are fed antibiotics, which we ingest when we consume fish."- UCLA Health
@@someguy2135 Appreciate the clip and the source.
Honestly, ive just given up on ever truly knowing whats in our food or what is or isnt safe to eat. Instead Ive phased out sugar from my diet as much as possible, reduced processed foods with the goal of eliminating them, buy fruits & veggies from a farmer's market until I can grow my own & eventually, hopefully, I'll be able to buy meat from a local farm. Until then ive simply accepted that the best i can do is try to minimize the amount of crap that goes into my body, ignore the hype about the latest superfoods & call it a day
So many things affect what we eat that we cant control them all, even growing my own produce will be vulnerable to whatever is in the water, pesticides used by someone else being carried by the wind, etc. Ditto raising meat & fish, no matter how stringent or careful a person is with their own stock there are too many outside factors they have no control over. The best we can do is try to keep it to a minimum & understand the same foods that are sustaining us are also likely poisoning us in some way & its unavoidable.
Nothing in this video said anything about poison or unhealthy foods... It's about wild Vs farmed and sustainability... Western food is generally fairly safe, but plant based is much more sustainable generally... Local, seasonal is really the best
if you go vegan you have infinitely less things to worry about
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@@growtocycle6992 No, western foods and American foods have problems. For example, watch critiques and news videos on school lunches. Like from Evil Food Supply. They even ruled fries and ketchup were considered "vegetable servings" as a excuse to not make the lunches healthier and to make it cheap junk. There's a lot of corruption too.
If you truly cared about the west you would address the issues, like Future Proof is doing. Not cover up problems that hurt westerners.
@@vash47 One thing you have to worry about is making sure you’re combining the right foods for essential nutrients that you can get from just plopping a steak on your plate with some random vegetables and fruit.
I have lived in a port city all my life, so, we've grown eating freshly captured fish, and let me tell you, Salmon, is overvalued, not in price (though, I would argue that too), but in taste and the texture is not that important, is just meeehhh. I preffer marlin.
Also, If you can't get fresh fish, just don't buy packed fish, the taste is horrible and is not worth it.
The lesson here is that if I'm selling farmed fish, I should jack up the price so consumers will think it's wild caught. 😂
I just wish companies were honest about it. Like, if you are gonna sell farmed fish or soy that looks like fish, just say it. Saves lots of trouble.
Thank you for making this video!
Thanks for watching it!
You can taste the difference between farmed and wild salmon. The wild salmon is much leaner.
Would like you to do a show on topical pain relievers (tiger balm, bio freeze, etc.)
I believe there's a mistake on the nutritional values. If farmed fish has less omega 3 and a much higher ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 fatty acids, farmed fish is definitly worse nutritionally. Ideally we would have an intake of 2:1 or 1:1 omega 6 to omega 3, but in reality many processed foods have much more omega 6, causing an intake more like 20:1. I'm not sure how important the absolute amounts of intake matter, but increasing omega 6 intake will only skew the balance even more.
Debby Downer over here. As Canada is taking big steps toward ocean health, Chile's already booming net-cage industry is expanding and will quickly fill the void in the market for cheap salmon, esp. in the US
Best to just boycott all animal products. Just one more reason to do so.
@@someguy2135 I buy organic grass fed beef straight from the farm where they raise the cattle. It's a lot better for the environment than a lot of non-meat protein (looking at you soy).....
@@ckm-mkcmost soy (over 70%) goes to feed cattle and other farmed animals (including fish). Raising grass fed cattle requires 2.5 times as much land as factory farms. Animal agriculture is already the leading cause of deforestation, switching all farm animals to pasture raised is literally impossible.
There is no way to eat animals that is more sustainable than a plant based diet. Do whatever you want but don’t greenwash your choices.
@@emilyking9558 I agree that no form of meat is good, I think fish is often painted as a "better alternative"because it's out of sight, out of mind... Actually, I think we are destroying the oceans more than the land, so it's worse... My opinion
@@someguy2135 Go do that buddy, come back in four years when your teeth fall out and you can't function anymore.
Only buy whole fish… if the eyes are clear you are good. Fresh or frozen either way - clear eyes.
Yup, clouded eyes mean it's already started going bad and decomposing which means it can make you sick if you ingest it. Unfortunately a lot of companies in the seafood industry bank off of this and rely on customers not knowing any better and being unable to tell the difference between fresh and expired fish
You should look into "Natural Flavors". Natural Vanilla flavor is made from African Violets through a lot of chemical processing, but it natural the base they started with is natural, ignore all other chemicals they used to create it. African Violets does not have a natural compounds that gives vanilla it's smell and flavor.
Why am I no longer surprised about things like this? Oh, because I watch your channel, and other similar ones. I feel like the entire world is fake right now... lol
Good video, but at 8:20 Omega-6 is treated as a good thing (which it technically is), however the average American diet contains an insane amount of Omega-6 which, in abundance, has terrible health consequences.
Good point, and even omega-3 supplements are kind of shady especially with the processing of the oils for consumption and are missing some important fatty acids like dpa (docosapentaenoic acid) which is missing from oily fish(like salmon or mackerel) and plant based sources and can be found in breast milk which suggests a crucial role in human development. I personally avoid fish sourced supplements and get harp seal oil from an ethical local and sustainable fishery owned by Mi'kmaq folks over in Newfoundland. That's what works for me, this is not medical advice and please talk to your doctor if you plan to change something in your nutritional or dietary intake. Besides the problematic process of extracting the fish oil which is usually heavily industrialized and prone to contamination, I've found that my GERD wouldn't flare up as bad with taking seal oil as when I was taking fish oil derived supplements. They also wouldn't trigger my MCAS and Lupus as severely since my whacked out immune system was more likely to recognize it and absorb it. No heartburn and no fish breath and stomachaches definitely went a long way in making me feel less shitty and sick. It's also made digestion a little easier and less gruelling and feeling like a task for me. As a plus seal products to an extent domestically are more regulated than some fish products so they have to be pretty honest with their labels and packaging as well as their refining process and traceability of their sources. Again not a professional of any kind and this is not medical advice, just sharing what worked for me. Always talk to your doctor or nutritional advisor about this kind of stuff don't take advice from random anecdotes on the internet
In Australia there was a scandal with farmed Salmon. Farmed Salmon are prone to parasites so they dip the Salmon in chemicals. Also because of different nutrients, farmed Salmon have white meat so they're fed food colouring to become pink.
Suggestion: I’d like to see a vídeo about regenerative Agriculture… I feel esceptical about companies like Nestle jumping into this practice. Keep up the good work FP!
Would love a video on sandal wood. Saw a video on why it's so expensive but we often see cheap versions of it which make me wonder what it is that I've been buying?
At 3 minutes and 30 seconds, the video mentions listing recommended podcasts in the description below the video. What podcasts would you recommend for the topic of salmon? Thank you.
I love your guys' videos but the inner health nut in me has to say that the Standard American Diet is already saturated with pro inflammatory Omega-6's. You generally want to consume more Omega-3's and have a ratio of 2:1 or 1:1 (omega6:omega3) Many people are not getting enough Omega-3's as they are only abundant in fish or algae
to me wild salmon tastes worse than farmed, it’s considerably more fishy and more lean
In our country, we don't have this issue with mislabeling, but straightly selling another fish in supermarket, where they're trying to fool people into thinking they're buying a salmon. It's called salmon trout and it looks like salmon, but it's a bigger trout which is colored with carothenoids. And yeah, it's of course cheaper than regular salmon.
I like the taste of trout. Is large salmon colored trout tasty?
Steelhead trout is delicious and looks very much like wild salmon. If you live where there are Costcos, they sell it, and it's reasonably priced.
Trout is tecnically a salmon. It's a part of the salmon family...
I feel like i came here just to say i worked at shoprite in the seafood department. I was a certified lobster specialist(self anointed). I also unwrapped salmon. Farm raised salmon has a super super catchy red to it where as healthy wild caught salmon has more of a pink tint. Its deceitful but really, they do it to everything :(
There are several documentaries on salmon farming I recommend everyone should watch. The main one is by Patagonia, it is free to watch on youtube
Also read salmon wars, very informative read and my dad who is a pretty avid subsistence fisherman could get behind it as this is a topic he's been passionate about for years
Is this the “phishing” the IT sept keeps warning me about?
The difference in color between farmed and wild salmon mainly comes from their diet, yes, depending on the amount and source of carotenoids. They are naturally found in certain plants and crustaceans (this is also why some flamingoes are more pink than others), but feeding carotenoid-rich feed isn't too bad when you consider the fish can't exactly swim out of their pen to catch their own food. Color also partially comes from the difference in species, farmed salmon is most often the atlantic species which has a more orangey appearance compared to the reddish hue of several pacific species like coho and sockeye, which also have less fat.
Salmon farming and catching is a long-standing debate that definitely needs more regulations, but I do think that with adjustments farming is generally a good way to go as wild species are in decline. I highly recommend Mark Kurlansky's book Salmon: A Fish, the Earth, and the History of A Common Fate for a general history on this topic.
at some point these things just can't be avoided unless i live off the grid.
My uncle is a fish biologist and he's worked for fish farms across the country. He raised tilapia in California, game fish in Missouri, and rainbow trout in Wisconsin. Every time I him he just talks about the skullduggery the bosses do and the shady people they employ.
I like smart James Franco. I subscribed.
8:17 This is a very important point and cannot be overlooked by labelling it as nutrionally similar. The omega-6 to omega-3 ratio refers to the balance between two types of essential fatty acids, omega-6 and omega-3, in the diet. The optimal ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acids is generally recommended to be around 4:1 to 1:1. Based on the study referrenced in the video, the farmed salmon has an omega-6 to omega-3 ratio of 0.7 which is a whopping 14 times compared to 0.05 of the wild salmon. The typical Western diet often has a much higher ratio, sometimes reaching 15:1 or even 20:1. This imbalance is thought to be associated with various health issues, including inflammation and certain chronic diseases. This is the link to a video that shows how in the past few decades our diets around the world has shifted to a very high omega-6 to omega-3 ratio and the resulting decline to our overall health. czcams.com/video/PvZk-jNqzgE/video.html
Canadians can thank our oligopoly of Loblaws, Metro and Sobeys for fake fish and inflated pricing.
is that water bottle in the background the kleen kanteen????
The Sardine industry would be a great topic (IMO) - where they come from how they are canned, etc. Lots of consolidation over the past two decades and it's always been in debate to if the industry has been regulated enough. #eatthebait
I just think about the microplastics, I get very turned off my dinner. 🙃
I just bought a frozen salmon with herb butter from trader joe's. the butter was becoming coral-pink where it was in contact with the fish from all the dye. Also it came in an enormous amount of plastic packaging that was just excessive and a pita to open. (And the herbs turned black when cooking but that was my fault.)
Man I just watched this whole video . Makes me realize this whole time I was eating farmed salmon . But it’s honestly the exact same thing with fruit. It’s so hard to find fruit that has seeds in it these days .
hey nice video. in my family we avoid farm fish because my family always said that farm fish tastes like sand. Always sounded dumb to me but i was a child so i ate what they buyed.
Did you see that documentary, Seaspiracy? The whole industry is nutty.
Don’t you mean “fishy”. I’ll sea my way out
@@monique7885 badum tshhhh
I know what wild salmon tastes like, it's very distinctive! Farmed salmon just isn't the same and I don't buy it. I only buy fish from certain trustworthy sources but I seldom buy fish anyway. There is nothing wrong with aquaculture in general if done correctly however. It has the potential to be both sustainable and healthy though too often it isn't.
I'd say it depends if the Supermarket has a fish counter in it with competent workers or you're buying it blind from a freezer case. Alaska is well known for their salmon and its some of the best in the world similar to how if you want cod haddock or pollack you used to go off the coast of New England same as Lobsters off the coast of Maine particularly
I wish people would stop becoming pescatarian for moral/environmental reasons. Just go the whole way! Great video team, I've been looking for something to pass around to help convince people. Most of the fish species I ate as a child are now completely extinct and I have no way to communicate this to people.
I'm curious, what species of fish become extinct?
Just wanna say I noticed if I leave the video paused at some points I get ads that are 180 from the point of the video haha
I was waiting on the intro jingle cuz thats when I lock in, and then it never happened :(, ill keep my eye on the redness of the fish tho.
This is always the problem when humans try and scale up the production on anything we consume.
I know meal kits services have been covered in the past, but I have seen a lot of ads for things like hungryroot and thrive market. They seem to cover a bit of gray space between meal kits and grocery stores. Would be interested in getting some more info on them to accompany my own research into them
Thanks for the suggestion! We did a video about meal kits already if you haven't seen it czcams.com/video/K1lHuBbvz80/video.htmlsi=6K2UiHlJlBMHFWFI
In general you're gonna pay a significant convenience tax (2-3x price). Since that mark-up is how they make their money.
If the quality of ingredients is good and the convenience is worth it to your specific situation, then go for it.
Though IMO they really need to have another value add other than just convenience. Meal kits I consider somewhat grey because they at least teach you to make the food, so it only takes another step to learn to plan and prep yourself and you can drop your costs by ~2/3, and can help people who aren't confident about cooking to take the plunge or try a dish they feel is beyond their normal ability.
I think in the short term that's enough value add to be worth the ridiculous price-mark-ups, but should really transition out of it long term once you've built up your skills.
Basically, there is no such thing as wild Atlantic Salmon anymore. Almost all real wild Salmon is Coho or Sockeye Pacific Salmon. Pacific is dry and not as nice to eat.
Me, having just eat supermarket salmon for dinner: "Aw man what nowwwwwwww"
I can't get enough of those fish pun jokes 😭
I love that you point out to just make the best choice you can. It is impossible in our current world to change the way things are by what we buy. A lot of times, there is no good answer there. We need good regulation to change these things. We also need to admit that the only way to feed a population the size this planet has, is going to do more harm than good.
Have a look what Tassal is doing to the coastline of Tasmania in Australia. These farms destroy the whole environment
I don't understand who can even afford salmon. I'm a middle class earner and at best I can afford it once or twice a year. I can buy 3x to 4x the amount of chicken or pork per kg of salmon. I just can't justify the staggering cost of it when I can easily get almost a week's worth of protein in other forms for the cost of a single serving of salmon. I'll buy it for a birthday maybe and that's about it.
Great watch and discussion as always 🫡👊🏿. Very interesting. It's a topic I've seen mentioned before but never dug deep into it.
This does explain why it’s been so cheap the last year or so to buy salmon in bulk. Like those bags that have 6 or more filets.
I only go to the fish market at the fisherman's rock ,or catch myself.
Humans "farm" everything they possibly can. It ensures supply to meet demand. Like any industry, there are "good farmers" and "bad farmers." It's doubtful consumers care enough about which is which to research that to adjust their buying habits when that adjustment may inconvenience their purchases.
Simply from an environmentally conscious POV I would think one concerned about declining wild salmon populations would prefer farmed.
Quite honestly if we took the time to research everything we're going to eat, there wouldn't be time to eat. But that might actually be a plus. Less time to eat might solve the obesity problem some humans have.
Not much a fan of fish, myself, but interesting things to keep in mind 🤔
Welp, since I live on the gulf coast of Florida in Pasco County, I guess I don't need to go to a supermarket anyway for my fish. Just take a trip to Tarpon Springs every couple of months and buy from the docks or something. I just don't like that the place smells like salty wet dog. lol
In all your ag related videos i notice a lack of emphasis on “buy local” I am a farmer, with a background in mechanics, I used to be a diesel tech and noticed the appaling number of refrigerated trailers (reefers) running at one particular logistics company in rocky hill CT. Over 1000 reefers running at one time (2.1 and 2.2l 4 cylinder diesel engine) and a 236,000 sq ft refrigerated and frozen warehouse. Buy local if you can, stop letting developers buy farm land. Organic non-gmo farmers like myself exist, if we can stop shipping food all over the place we can cut emissions by a LOT.
Agreed. Stiffer regulations in this area would really help.
the wild caught salmon at Aldi tastes just like the fresh caught salmon I had growing up near Alaska!
Eat local ingredients. People are finding that the local food hat your grands eat are actually great tasting. It's not as cool to eat these old school stuff, but hey--it's good for you, your culture, and your environment. Also if you learn to cook it well then your grands will be very happy.
It's not always easy. A lot of restaurants here sell "catfish" on the menu - which is a local fish - but they secretly substitute Vietnamese swai fish. Same with shrimp, crayfish, and oysters. Those are all local but a lot of what you can actually buy is imported from China.
Govts & big corps don’t care until ir effects their wallets. That’s the biggest problems
Does this apply to Salmon in Australia too? There's usually Salmon available year round.
From what I know, the same thing is happening with salmon farming in Tasmania.
Waaaay worse czcams.com/video/xLIph7Ct-rQ/video.htmlsi=saBlfHoP72v1yvgc
Wild caught at Costco. Always a killer deal.
Walmart as well. I demand a refund for the past 15 years thinking I'm eating healthy salmon 😡
@@Tailionis Costco's is legit. I mean you get what you get at WalMart.
@@NouisFam I'm skeptical. I only buy salmon with location caught, wild caught label, plus omega 3 on the label preferably now. They taste completely different. The more expensive salmon is the real deal. I'll test Costco salmon to see though.
@@Tailionis Costco, Whole Foods, TJ's etc are very diligent about their supply chains.
@@NouisFamwhich salmon is legit? Their smoked ‘Norwegian salmon’ is farmed in Norway; then shipped to the Netherlands and processed/packaged there. I don’t trust any of their salmon to be ‘legit’. Most fish farms are owned by multinationals as well; there’s nothing local about them.
To be fair, the whole industrialized animal industry is a lie. I'm sure there are a few good apples out there, but 99% of what we buy in the supermarkets and restaurants are a horror show behind closed doors.
As a sport fishing guide here in Washington state, the farmed salmon problem hits close to home. Open net pens are horrible and usually they are Atlantic salmon, which when they escape can out compete the native fish. We had several disasters in the last few years where entire farms broke and released thousands of them. We were catching them in the Skagit, all the way down to the nisqually. Unfortunately, when we get rid of the net pens, the demand doesn't go away. My fear is that people will see this video and then, with good intentions, go out and buy wild salmon instead. The real problem is, unfortunately, overharvest combined with poor fisheries management. If we eliminated farmed fish from the market right now, it would simply lead to the extinction of salmon in less than a decade. The problem is institutional and systemic and involves countries and big corporations all fighting over the same dwindling resources, and politicians whose paychecks get bigger when the salmon suffer. I'd encourage you to do a follow-up video about it.
Firts time I comment so firts THANKS I really Like your videos.
My comment: Is so weird for me (I'm from Chile) that in Canada or USA you buy Avocado or Salmon in any season here we eat mostly products from each season
Canada's climate can't grow much lol. We'd starve or eat grains/ potatoes half the year if we only depended on stored seasonal food.
A lot of food is imported, who knows what kinda environment they've been grown in
I swear I've seen this exact thumbnail 10 times already on this channel, but with a different item at the end of the red arrow...
Yep! That's how it works!
@@FutureProofTV And then they delete your comments when you point out that they never mention capitalism being the problem. Absolutely not sharing your videos anymore, it's neoliberal drivel that serves to perpetuate fascist, capitalist harm by just shrugging when faced with naming the problem behind all of these video topics.
Trout from Lesotho is some of the cleanest and well treated farmed fresh water fish
After watching Seaspiracy, on Netflix, I stopped eating Tuna and reduced the amount of fish I eat. Issue is, meat from farmed animals is also problematic and there’s no way I am going veggie!
I now realize not only that I haven't eaten wild salmon in my life, but I didn't even think salmon was supposed to be that one mighty fish jumping up the river (I am not from NA, please don't hate).
Fun fact: In Germany (guess Europe in general) farm salmon is a lot more expensive than wild salmon. It also tastes better if you ask me.
I agree, I think farmed tastes better
It depends where the farmed salmon comes from. Around here, the majority comes from Chile and it's pretty bland. US, Canadian or (rarely available) Norwegian farmed salmon is much, much better and less sus.
You're joking right? Farmed salmon when cocked releases so much fat compared to wild salmon.
@@ckm-mkc That might be the reason. You usually get Norwegian farmed salmon in German grocery stores.
What?
No it doesn't. What are you talking about?
Actual real wild salmon costs more. And if far more flavourful.
I don't know where you buy yours, but as a fellow Western-European and neighbour, my country has some of the highest food standards in the world.
Even higher than Germany.
But then, I actually live pretty close to the sea, so maybe that's another reason.
I don't mind farmed salmon, and it's really high quality here. Even in supermarkets. But actual real wild salmon is still better, in my opinion, and anything from the fish market is leagues above any farmed fish. And I have never found any wild salmon that is cheaper.
Nice.
Stupidly enough I enjoy the taste of the farm salmon I can get around here more
It has a higher fat content
I love fish, and specifically salmon. Interestingly, I was up in Victoria a few years ago, and tried to taste any Canadian salmon variety I could get my hands on. All good, but I kept going back to the good old farmed stuff. The farmed stuff to me tasted less gamey and with higher fat content. It was so buttery and tasty after cooking. Farmed salmon is also the choice of variety for sushi restaurants. I know about potential health and environmental issues with the farmed stuff, but I just prefer it. The mislabeling stuff is troubling, nevertheless.
Farm salmon vs wild salmon is not a minor mislabel. The difference dictates the way you cook it and the risk involved with different preparation methods
We have been buying exclusively farmed fish, since the biggest threat as I see it is overfishing. Something which is much harder with farmed fish.
What sort of legislation do you have in mind? Fraud is already illegal. Tariffs? Import bans for certain countries of origin known to engage in large-scale, organised fraud? Supply chain reporting requirements? Changes to the fault element in liability for fraud?
8:05 I am not sure if its deliberate or not, not “the science” seems to be something different than “science”. I noticed this kind of word play starting during the dark year that started in 2020.
honestly my love of fish was the only thing keeping me from going full vegan. This video was the little push I needed. thanks lol
A large reason people like wild salmon is because it has a way better nutrition/micronutrition profile - the farmed salmon have very poor nutrients
Trout and salmon are easy to confuse if you don't know what to look for.
Restaurants are also to be blamed or consumers. They mislabel it in order to get the sales of wild salmon even when we know supplies are extremely limited.
Tuna is also mislabeled frequently. So much of the tuna Americans eat especially with sushi, isn’t actual tuna.
I refuse to order tuna at most sushi places because there’s a 70% chance it’s albacore, not tuna. Albacore gives people diarrhea, mislabeled Salmon at least doesn’t tend to do that. If it’s a high end sushi place you can be pretty sure it’s tuna but even then it’s probably not anywhere remotely close to the quality of tuna you get in Japan, which is bluefin tuna and tastes super different. Having lived in Japan for several years too, you need to pay a lot even in nyc / la to get sushi that’s on par with “cheap” sushi in Tokyo.
I don't get it, albacore is tuna and absolutely doesn't give people diarrhea. Are you talking about one of the non-tuna species that are falsely called albacore?
I'm an American. Our wild salmon swim thousands of miles, not kilometers. 😂
Highly recommend a documentary called Fish & Men I think it’s free