Amen! I love hunting. I’ve been on hunts where game was taken. I was never able to get a lot of hunting done though before military service and disability ended my hunting career. I’m 66 now and would love to harvest at least one animal but health issues seem to be conspiring against me. It is what it is.
This. Weapon, range, tactic etc are all just details. Their are many ways to Harvest game, and hunters have the right to choose which methods they enjoy.
Again ?, someone who knows as much as they can,and keeps wanting to learn, who is good at it and is successful, and who spends a lot of time doing it. The true hunter a lot of people seem to be talking about, is constrained by a maze of laws, codes and in an ethical quagmire, none of which are anything to do with being a true hunter,and qualified by the emotions/viewpoint of the beholder. What you are all arguing about is; “What is a good and ethical hunter.“ ?
When I look back on thirty-five plus years of hunting, I really don't think too much about the actual kills. It's more the fond memories of being out in the bush, a camp by a lake and sharing a supper with other hunters after a day in the field. It's sitting around a campfire after dinner, swapping stories, real or embellished, being in a spot before dawn and watching the sunrise. It's discovering new areas, pre-season scouting trips, time at the range making sure my rifle is all dialed in. As for dragging a bull moose out of a swamp, field dressing and then packing out quarters to the nearest trail big enough to get a truck into, well, I'd just as soon forget those memories. The one kill I do like to remember and talk about is the one and only time I got a moose within spitting distance of a road.
Great video with great answers. I as a hunter am disabled. I am a paraplegic hunter. I am not very successful very often. I do love the searching and planning of the hunt. I love shooting and dialing in my rifle and knowing my limits and then staying within those limits. Following all the rules and then still being successful is a great feeling. Though again being disabled and a deer hunter in Maine success doesn't happen every year. I still love the whole process. Ethics is a very important part of hunting. Just because you could doesn't mean you should mentality. I see grouse a lot and if I see a few together, I shoot only 1 and let the others go, either for another hunter to have a chance or for the species to continue on. This year I was lucky enough to get two deer. I got my first buck over 200 lbs after 43 years of hunting deer. I also was able to purchase a doe tag. This was a first for me to have the ability to shoot 2 deer in one season. With one day left I was able to complete the task and shoot my first deer with a muzzleloader. I still fight the guilty feeling of shooting 2 deer in one season. The older I get the harder it seems to become to take a life as well. I think that is the final phase of hunting. God Bless and Good Hunting! Maine North Woods Hunter (CZcams)
Ron..brother you are a real gem.! You cover the the spectrum from the ridiculous to the sublime!.THANK YOU! I always tell my son and my grands..hunt YOUR hunt! Why are you doing ALL this?..Do you want to creep around in the woods with Pop?…Sit for 8 hours freezing in a blind?..Do you really want a trophy?..Trophies!?…Do you really like to harvest, process, cook, ..eat…wild game?..Shoot a pretty doe with an arrow at…10 yards?…If that’s what you want..let’s spend some time getting good at it!..Again..thanks, Ron!..Pop Park
Another important difference to remember of 450 BM vs 458 SOCOM, that you touched on in your last episode, is that 450 is a straight wall cartridge while 458 is bottlenecked, so if you're hunting in a straight wall state you better not mix the two.
True hunter, one who uses skills developed from time spent in the bush, learning about his game, it’s world, and how it interacts in its environment, and adopts this knowledge and his experiences using the principal of fair chase to successfully pursue and subsequently harvest the game. I’m a traditional hunter, I choose to be. I don’t use bait to lure game, I don’t sit in a tree, I don’t hide in a blind. I stalk, using terrain, environmental factors, sign, woodscraft and cunning. While not always successful, I believe this to be ethical and in keeping with fair chase. When I do everything right, I come home with game. Nothing is more rewarding than this type of hunting experience.
Hear me out! I sevived a winter long ago on stocked trout.I fished , hunted and scavenged the coolest winter I can remember. I have made it 40+ years since. I was hungry! And I didn't always succeed procuring food. I was employed.... hunting is just that. I spent that cold winter hunting for sustenance. Today I'm blessed . My maker looks out for me.... my favorite hunt now days is behind a birdog trying to knock down a grouse. Thank my maker for this free country. Thanks Ron!
A true hunter is someone who appreciates the beauty of mother nature, and wild animal's. Shows respect for nature and ethical killing. Someone who knows their own ability and skill. And also knows about their prey. Anatomy of animals. Someone who does it to get "real" food from the wild and not some half produced "super market" food. Someone willing to get in touch with nature and do what we have done for thousands of years. But also willing to further teach that skill and legacy and preserve that way of life.
Ron, I appreciate your willingness to try to define a true hunter, an ambiguous term to say the least. You've done a lot of traveling, in your travels what do you find to be some of the best conservation practices? It feels like there are so many different models that different states and countries try to use.
Mark, that's a big question, but here's the recipe I like best: sustainable use. Put simply, you assess the reproduction rate of a given species in a given habitat, then limit human hunter harvest to slightly less than that level. Take off older males only if you want herds to increase, females if you need to prevent overpopulation. Off-take must be modified in response to extenuating circumstances such as floods, fires, predation, drought and other natural phenomenon that reduce populations. Critical to all of this is maximizing habitat quality. No reduction of hunter harvest can offset destruction of essential living places: grassland, brush, forest, swamps, tundra, etc. Habitat destruction is the biggest threat to all wildlife, not just hunted species. This is why there are more insects, songbirds, butterflies, rodents etc. on endangered species list than big game, upland birds, waterfowl, etc. Finally, charging hunters in order to pay for habitat maintenance, anti-poaching, etc. covers the bills. Near perfect system. It works best where pragmatic biologists/managers have complete control. Falls apart when ignorant, emotional citizens get involved.
I think we hunt for the experience. Consumption of the animal, feeding a family, the trophy, the time spent with people and everything else is part of that experience.
A real hunter has respect to the game and the outdoors! Do what you can and don't forget that clean kills and good times are what matters! Great memories with friends!
Ron Thank you for your video . This is the best one I think I have ever seen you make. Keep up the great work . The true hunter philosophy is truly one of the toughest subjects .
Blessings Mr. Spomer and May you and your wife have a very merry Christmas! I always really enjoy these videos! I always wanted that 408 CheyTac. Just because.
Other than being ethical and knowing your limits. A true hunter should also master the art of processing the animal. Use as much as possible. Along with being able to make delicious meals to honor the animal and share it with others. 👍🙏✌
I’m with you on your take on finger position on the trigger. I think over-travel of the trigger has a lot more to do with the effect on accuracy than where your finger contacts the trigger. I think there is a balance that needs to be found between grip, finger placement and over-travel. That’s my experience with handguns, anyway. I’m a lesser rifleman but have competed somewhat successfully with pistols.
Truth be told, I am more of a shooter than a hunter. I can't track to save my life. Fortunately every animal I shot save one died with8ing 6 feet of where I shot it. "The one" an elk ran a bit further but dropped in the open. I do love each and every experience even though I don't always bring something home, save a good memory or two. Win to lose, I always learn something new, and I know all those experiences made me a better person.
I hunt for everything. It's beneficial in so many ways. Primarily food, but I utilize every part I know how. It makes some people cringe when they see me cut up antlers for handles, buttons, etc. Lol. But i try to use what I can. I leave the rest for for the predators.
Ron has far more patience with these people than I would. What the internet made visible is there are many more secret kings who are very sure of themselves than previously believed. I’m going to try to work on my patience.
Good video. It’s my first time ever watching one of these. In my humble opinion, a true hunter hunts ethically and safely, respects nature and it’s creatures, and strives to give his game a fair chase and a clean death. I have only been into hunting for a couple of years now, but I’ve wanted to do it since I was a kid. One of my mentors is a hunter from Germany named Henrik Lott, he’s also known in Germany as the open sight hunter and his philosophy of hunting I have tried to adopt: less technology and more authentic hunting. Stalking crawling, checking the wind, judging Age size and maturity of the animals properly, then stalking close enough to his quarry once he has selected it in order to take a safe shot using open sights, now that’s REAL hunting. Any true hunter goes out into nature not only to enjoy the age old tradition of hunting, but also because nature fills their soul and recharges their spirit. Nature to me js my spiritual home.
@Brandan Weber it is a dream of mine to hunt in Montana on the power river. Montana is truly beautiful and serene country. Please enjoy it for me until I am able to visit it and hunt there.
I am going to respectfully and adamantly disagree with "Charles" on the trigger pull. I will not go into my qualifications as I do not feel the need to one-up or compare manhood sizes, but I firmly believe in your position. count me in your camp on this one, Ron. You answered the comment with alacrity and tact...Kudos.
I always fall on the side of ethics and then enjoyment... Meaning do what's right don't take the shots you've never taken just because the rack size is bigger and keep things at reasonable distances because a lot can happen in a very short amount of time that can completely ruin a shot. Enjoy your time in the field by yourself and/or your friends regardless if it's stalking animals or hunting in box blinds. Now I'm not the biggest fan of the long range hunting stuff to me it's just taking hunting in the wrong direction. I'm fortunate enough that I have a 1000 yard range on my property that I shoot out to on a very regular basis and I've taken some silly shots on game animals also. Most of them ended just as you'd hope but a couple of times just as the trigger broke that animal took a step that completely threw off the shot then I had a mess on my hands tracking a wounded animal to put it down and is the reason I dont do it anymore. It really doesn't take to many bad experiences like that to see its not worth it.
On the trigger pull thing. I was on a rifle team in High school. We were taught the same was Ron described. Pad of index finger and squeeze the trigger (don't pull it). But heck! Charles sounds like his resume is much more credible than mine.
Love your show, been a hunter/outdoorsman over 50 years, seems so many of these young guys want to whine about something more than the enjoyment of the outdoors,
Thanks Musicman. Most of us figure it out eventually, but the sooner we do, the more we are enriched by it. Keep hunting honestly and shooting straight!
I like to hunt and shoot more than that. , just going is a good challenge for my authridic hind end. ,,giving thanks to the All Mighty for the harvest of an animal ,if I'm in the right spot to do so. Pass on knowledge that has been given to me from old timers who knew much more.
Charles is right about pistol grip rifles like the ARs.... I was taught the same as you Ron, and use that method mostly, but on my AR15 (before our government confiscated it) I did find myself using that first crook because of the ergonomics of the stick design.... I kind of agree with your hunting ethos Ron vis a vis long range. 6-700 yard shots are fairly common here in NZ now with modern calibres and optics. It always seemed a bit unsporting to me to snipe them from half a mile away... but then I learned in 1960 with an milsurp .303 with iron sights, so back then 300 yards was a really long shot on deer (in NZ)... mine was a P14... We used to zero them about 2 1/2" high at 100 and you were "minute of deer" to well over 300....Deer are legally pest animals here (no predators apart from humans and can be shot any time in any numbers), but even so hunters that kill one and don't take as much of the meat as they can carry are really frowned upon, as is anyone that shoots a doe with a fawn at foot.. As for the anti-hunting people, I would suggest they go to an abbattoir and see the animals being killed there... nasty.... Hunting is an activity that must be experienced first hand, as some 'antis' have found when we take them into the bush and they see what it's all about. Their views usually changed right around then. I found with hunting and fishing I had a nice day out even when I didn't get anything to take home. A friend of mind will only take a camera (with no telephoto lens) when his freezer was full. I have seen his pictures taken from 10 or 12 feet away from wild deer.... he was a great stalker...He says they nearly jump out of their skins when the shutter goes 'click'...That's the trick as far as I am concerned, to get well within the prey's sensory range with it unaware of your presence.... 🙂
Hi Ron, been wondering a while but can't find the right info on it, but what burns barrels, take the 22-250 if you load the same load with a 55gr bullet and a 40gr, will the 55gr barrel last longer than the 40gr because of the slower velocity or will they have the same barrel life no matter the weight of the bullet and velocity difference
I think it has more to do with the higher pressures of the burning powder as it's leaving the case while burning up behind the bullet as it travels down the barrel. Larger case diameter to smaller bullet diameter increases these pressures and heat... I would think that because the longer bullets have more surface contact with the bore there would be more friction, thus resulting in more resistance which creates more heat and pressure... I think. 🤔
I’m out for the food, can’t buy venison at the store. Yes I enjoy spending time out in the woods, but I don’t have to hunt to be out enjoying the wilderness I do it the rest of the year not hunting. I was out in the woods today checking tracks and seeing what’s visiting the area since it snowed. The only one I didn’t find tracks for is the local black bear sow, even the red fox came in the yard which is surprising since we just had our dogs up at the river property, she normally steers clear for a good bit after the dogs have been around.
A true hunter has his 4x4 in good running order with a big v8 engine and has extra boxes of ammo stored in the glovebox then he spends hours beating himself up driving around drinking beer and looking for game sometimes even after dark and he keeps this up day after day until the great day finally arrives and he can lay over the hood and down some game at extremely long range ah what a hunt
Hi Ron, thank you for all the great information you share. I am new to deer hunting and I was advised to get a 243 rifle. I am located in south Oklahoma. Do you think this is a good rifle for beginners deer hunting, and what brand rifle do you advise me to get ? Thank you Danny
Hey Ron, you're still not getting it quite right on the 6.8 Western bullets. The 5 factory options are the 162 Copper Dear Season, and the 165 Nosler AccuBond LongRange, which does have the highest BC, and then there are 2 170 options, a 170 Open Tip Match and the 170 Ballistic Silvertip hunting load, and then there is the 175 gn Sierra Tipped Game King!
As for a look into the "real hunter" concept and into meaning of hunting ethics, every hunter should read "Beyond Fair Chase" by Jim Posewitz. This short book is often used in hunter education programs in several states.
I'm glad you don't make this channel overtly political as to not ostracize anyone, but I do want to correct you on calling us a democratic republic. We are actually a Constitutional Republic, meaning we have an elected government adherent to the Constitution. Democratic nations are only elected by the people, and without a constitution and bill of rights, we can easily fall into tyranny. Thanks for your wonderful insights, I prefer you over any other channel and love your spirit when facing correction. A true gentleman!
I am a true hunter. I am 69 years old and prefer to hunt alone. I may or may not harvest an animal but I enjoy the hunt. I would never comment on whether I consider someone else to be a true hunter. It's a state of mind for me and I love to use the skills I gained over a lifetime of hunting. I don't trophy hunt but will not pass up a trophy. I do hunt for meat and believe everything has a right to life.
When doing comparisons between CARTRIDGES the proper scientific method would be to remove as many variables as possible so, bullets of similar weight, shape, SD and BC should be used.
That lever action right there in the marquee looks kinda sorta maybe like a Remington model 1886 modern 50/110 throwing 6,000 lbs. of energy onto Bullwinkle with no problem...sweet
Ron I always enjoy your show and I am not really making a correction. When talking about long range shooting you started talking about the United States being a country of riflemen and how it helped us win independence. I don't disagree and I think those sorts of things are very important and I think maintaining an armed society is a fundamental part of our ideal society. The fact that the early settlers had a high degree of firearm ownership and skills I'm sure had some degree in the success of the success of breaking free from English rule. However at that time firearm ownership in Europe was far higher than it is now and the right to self defense was a ideal that was important with intellectuals of the time. What was important was the military skills and it was something that we were short of at the time. The revolution was a conflict something very similar to what we see in Ukraine right now. It was very much a proxy war between England and France although many other countries played a part. The French over extended and over taxed their country and it directly sparked their own revolution. It's a really minor thing to correct and I am not trying to be pedantic. The reason I like your show is that you do such a great job helping us bridge that gap and portray ourselves in a way that invites and doesn't decide. The history that I'm sure you and I grew up on was more or less mythology. I think most of us know that parts aren't actually true but Americans as a whole don't know history all that well. Many things are a charged subject now and those of us in shooting sports should actually know and understand our history and why things are important. I don't have any problem with what you said it's just when you bring up that subject or talk about history it's probably a good idea to show that some of us do know our history and are not a bunch of ignorant rednecks who like to kill things as we are often made out to be. As one of the comments you read shows this is a public forum and it's also the sort of thing that is good for a lot of us who has a traditional background to hear and to realize that changes to history are not bias if they are correcting things that aren't true. It's ok if people in the past had a few flaws, we all have them now and we can respect them as people who overcame real difficulty. It also helps us to reflect on history and that there are reasons why laws were made the way they were and they aren't some sort of holy writings but an actual thoughtful look at problems that continue to accure over time. We had a generation of peace but the world is changing and and understanding of the past is an anchor and a warning.
Trigger pull and finger placement. Just take a pistol, unloaded, that can be dry fired. Pull trigger using the different placement of finger. Keep pulling trigger, go back and forth, watching the muzzle, see if it moves, how much it moves. That will tell you. In my case, the first pad, is a no. Just the natural placement is the best. With a curl around the trigger. Probably a contested point, but if you look at your gun while pulling the trigger, that should be the ultimate test.
A True Hunter is one how doesn't have to make a kill , it is being outdoors enjoying all of nature. One time I was hunting deer and a small group of sparrows (5 or 6) were taking turns eating , I don,t know if a deer came by all because of those birds but I didn't care.
You are onto it, Roger! I remember the thrills of a chickadee perching on my nocked arrow and a great horned owl landing on a branch beside me during some of my first bow hunts. Are you going to use this "sparrow" inspiration to begin learning more about the birds you see? You might be shocked to know that there are 49 different sparrow species in North America alone! Were you being entertained by black-chinned, black-throated, chipping, song, Golden-crowned, Harris, field...? You can "bag" a long life-list of bird species as you hunt. I've ID'd well more than 500 species so far.
They were about 70 yards away. There was fresh snow and we had a small pile of sweet feed (oats,wheat,rye and molasses ) there was a hole in the snow when one came out and another went in I think they were Field sparrows. This happened 18-20 years ago. I am a birder kinda.
The thoughtful answers are based on the idea that hunting is an archaic activity that exists only as a shadow from our past. I do not like that position. I prefer to think of hunting as maintaining a skill that could be needed again; whether for table food or the elimination of foreign enemies. Marksmanship is part of the equation, but hunting develops the ability to put a bullet into a living animal; not a trivial matter.
As a long time guide in the Northern Rockies my experience has been that non=magnum hunters have a higher success rate than magnum shooters. They know they have to get closer and they rarely flinch. Magnum guys say things like "I brought my 30-378 incase the only shoot I can get is 600 yards" or my favorite from a guy with a 416 Rigby.. "This way I can shoot them in the butt and hit them in the heart."
long range target Practice is Great, long range Hunting of you cant get within 500 yards or less ( if you have the correct rifle) let it want Hunting is part of the Stalk to get closer, putting a bullet 20 or 30 feet in the air so you hope it hits correctly, not for animals, i used to target 800 yards with a 30/378
The 416 Barret and the chytac rounds are not anti material rounds they are anti personnel rounds. They are in the same catagory as 338 lapua not the same ss a 50bmg
A "true hunter" is the one that in two feet of snow on the other side of a canyon about a mile from the truck pulls his knife out to gut his kill and says to himself, "this is going to be fun".
I'm not sure what you mean by static drop, Crime, but 32 fps squared, or 32 fps accelerating at 32 fps, is roughly the right number for gravitational pull on Earth. This rate is the same regardless any other velocities or vectors any object is moving. A bullet fired 3,000 fps at right angles to gravitational pull is pulled at the same rate as one dropped from the muzzle. Even bullets fired straight up at 3,000 fps are pulled 32 fps squared. Ain't physics fun? (P.S., yes I know, gravity doesn't really pull at all. Warps space, if you can wrap your head around that.)
Good character. Acting with morals. Quality ethics. How you behave in private when nobody would know, but you. How you behave in the woods while hunting if someone you respect the most could see you. What if you had to answer for your actions. I'm not going to be judged for Salmon limits, am I??? I ate them all. I moved to a place that is over run with deer. The limit is 6 either sex. It helps if someone shoots 8 or 10. The cars are killing 5 per day on the highway. A real hunter? Does the right thing, regardless of what others think.
A true hunter gets within I small Moose range..Or I smell a Buck range, etc. Question; is that a bullet hole in your CZcams plaque? Were you target practicing with it, or just mad??
Here's one debate for you regarding ethis and dogs. WHy is it ethical to shoot birds using dogs but not use dogs to chase deer or bear or lion. In some places dogs are leagal on some big game species and there are places it is not. How about baiting?
Hey Ron, listened to the podcast while going for my daily walk. In terms of "What is a True Hunter", A true hunter is an ethical hunter. Some people might say shooting an animal at more than 300 yards does not make a true hunter. I guess in the case of hunting Pronghorn out west, 300 yards might be the closest you could get and you may have had to stalk the animal from much further away, so in my opinion, that is hunting. The yardage could be more or less depending on what you're hunting. I think you have to at least try to get as close to the animal as you possibly can without being detected using the spot and stalk method. Still hunting from a blind or tree stand is also a valid method of hunting. Some people might say the only true hunter is a guy walking through the woods with his trusty .30-30 taking a shot at under 100 yards. We can all debate on what is a true hunter, but I like what the last guy said, A true hunter does the right thing when no one is looking!
Charles is dead on with his comments, Im not a master class anything, just and old hunter who all his life has been told to use the first pad of his finger, something I can not do, but doing what feels natural seemed to work both in the 23 years in the USMC and in hunting for 60+ years, natural for me brings the trigger in contact around the first finger joint and the second pad of my finger...there are times the EXPERTS just do not get it correct.
I suppose a hunter is somebody that enjoys eating fresh meat, weather they process the game them selves or have it processed for them. I would have to add that the true hunter should be all about the meat, wasting none.
Feet per second is a measurement of VELOCITY. feet per second squared is a unit of ACCELERATION. they are not the same thing. Saying feet per second in regards to acceleration is categorically wrong.
A true Hunter ; we all have our own definition. To me a true Hunter is someone who you can turn loose in the woods with nothing. He will find flint and fiber and wood. He will make knives bows arrows ,traps ect from what's available. He will flourish if he really is a true Hunter.
The question is "what is a true hunter"...In my opinion it means that he or she can be dropped into a landscape with only a knife or bare essentials and feed him or her self successfully in an ongoing situation... people that do not possess these skills are not "true hunters" and must join the ranks of "gatherer" for sustenance...a "true hunter" possesses many skills to say the least...my description is simply a skill set of attributes but what I feel is not saying that a modern equipped person cannot successfully hunt without said skillsets...
RON!!! Please review the Hunters Ed info regarding long range hunting. Highly discouraged. My 9yo just completed the online portion of Hunters Ed and she heard you talking about shooting animals at a very long range. She replied, ”doesn’t sound ethical”.
I don't think anyone gets to gatekeep what "A Hunter" is. Poachers, trapper's, neanderthals rolling a boulder down a hill, or even early humans setting fire to a savannah. Just because we don't like it, or want to be associated with it, or it doesn't conform to our modern ways doesn't exclude it. Hunting has nothing to do with ethics, morals, politics, or legality, We Do! Ethical hunters, hunter conservationist, subsistence hunters, we all just live in our little bubble or maybe several bubbles in the giant hunting venn diagram.
A true hunter is a person who has the patience and skill to stalk game and read sign. There able stalk within 200yards , ethical distance,in the timber. And make a clean shot and take the animals quick. They use a bullet and cartridge that matches the game there hunting. That's my idea if a real hunter . Not these guys with 6 thousand dollars rifles,and 2 thousand dollar scopes that set up on a hill somewhere and shoot animals at 7 8 900 yards. That's target practice on living creatures. I feel bad for guys like this that actually call themselves hunters.
A livestock farmer, can be seen as a hunter?! Rifles made the killing more effective, domestication makes finding the animal easier. Something to ponder over
Certainly trapping was the method hundreds or thousands years ago. In modern times, we can be too effective via trapping. Trapping usually utilizes bait and/or scent which then gets the fastest and probably best reproducing animal of the group to the trap, thereby 'retarding' the game animals. Pre civilized humans migrated, decimating life in whole areas then moving on. Hunting big game maybe has done the reverse; perhaps the stone age methods of taking big game typically got the weaker ones of herds, now our firepower allows easy taking of the perceived strongest of herds. The conservation practices certainly have success and continues to make hunting possible and worthwhile.
Modern game/wildlife management is working beautifully and there is no indication of genetic decline. New world record sizes of all big game species in N.A. have been recorded in recent decades. Elk, whitetails, bighorns larger on average than ever. Heavily trapped furbearers like coyotes, red fox, raccoon, etc. are thriving. Genetic bottlenecks are are rare thing brought on by bigger events than limited, regulated human harvest. It's mainly climate and habitat related. The genetic viability of grizzly bears in San Francisco, for instance, is dismal. In northern Alberta where the bears have been hunted annually for decades, they are thriving.
If you hunt from a stand are you a true Hunter? If you put animals on your property and then hunt them are you a true hunter? If you lure animals to your tree stand or blind with a feeder are you a true hunter?
A "true hunter" is one who enjoys the entire experience from beginning to end not just the end result of the harvest
Amen! I love hunting. I’ve been on hunts where game was taken. I was never able to get a lot of hunting done though before military service and disability ended my hunting career. I’m 66 now and would love to harvest at least one animal but health issues seem to be conspiring against me. It is what it is.
You are right! It’s the experience we are after. The harvest and feast is the reward.
This. Weapon, range, tactic etc are all just details. Their are many ways to Harvest game, and hunters have the right to choose which methods they enjoy.
Again ?, someone who knows as much as they can,and keeps wanting to learn, who is good at it and is successful, and who spends a lot of time doing it.
The true hunter a lot of people seem to be talking about, is constrained by a maze of laws, codes and in an ethical quagmire, none of which are anything to do with being a true hunter,and qualified by the emotions/viewpoint of the beholder. What you are all arguing about is; “What is a good and ethical hunter.“ ?
@@dr.froghopper6711 I know what you are talking about, I'm in the same predicament. 😒
a true hunter treats his or her game with respect.
When I look back on thirty-five plus years of hunting, I really don't think too much about the actual kills. It's more the fond memories of being out in the bush, a camp by a lake and sharing a supper with other hunters after a day in the field. It's sitting around a campfire after dinner, swapping stories, real or embellished, being in a spot before dawn and watching the sunrise. It's discovering new areas, pre-season scouting trips, time at the range making sure my rifle is all dialed in. As for dragging a bull moose out of a swamp, field dressing and then packing out quarters to the nearest trail big enough to get a truck into, well, I'd just as soon forget those memories. The one kill I do like to remember and talk about is the one and only time I got a moose within spitting distance of a road.
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Great video with great answers. I as a hunter am disabled. I am a paraplegic hunter. I am not very successful very often. I do love the searching and planning of the hunt. I love shooting and dialing in my rifle and knowing my limits and then staying within those limits. Following all the rules and then still being successful is a great feeling. Though again being disabled and a deer hunter in Maine success doesn't happen every year. I still love the whole process. Ethics is a very important part of hunting. Just because you could doesn't mean you should mentality. I see grouse a lot and if I see a few together, I shoot only 1 and let the others go, either for another hunter to have a chance or for the species to continue on. This year I was lucky enough to get two deer. I got my first buck over 200 lbs after 43 years of hunting deer. I also was able to purchase a doe tag. This was a first for me to have the ability to shoot 2 deer in one season. With one day left I was able to complete the task and shoot my first deer with a muzzleloader. I still fight the guilty feeling of shooting 2 deer in one season. The older I get the harder it seems to become to take a life as well. I think that is the final phase of hunting. God Bless and Good Hunting! Maine North Woods Hunter (CZcams)
Happy hunting my friend, and best wishes.
The way Ron answers these nit pickers is truly a skill 😅
Someone who loves the land and everything in it!
Respects game and is not wasteful, takes only what one needs and will use.
The long flight time of a muzzle loader bullet is one of my favorite things about muzzle loader hunting.
Ron..brother you are a real gem.! You cover the the spectrum from the ridiculous to the sublime!.THANK YOU! I always tell my son and my grands..hunt YOUR hunt! Why are you doing ALL this?..Do you want to creep around in the woods with Pop?…Sit for 8 hours freezing in a blind?..Do you really want a trophy?..Trophies!?…Do you really like to harvest, process, cook, ..eat…wild game?..Shoot a pretty doe with an arrow at…10 yards?…If that’s what you want..let’s spend some time getting good at it!..Again..thanks, Ron!..Pop Park
There is something special about being in a treestand when the sun comes up and you see mother nature in her full glory
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Another important difference to remember of 450 BM vs 458 SOCOM, that you touched on in your last episode, is that 450 is a straight wall cartridge while 458 is bottlenecked, so if you're hunting in a straight wall state you better not mix the two.
True hunter, one who uses skills developed from time spent in the bush, learning about his game, it’s world, and how it interacts in its environment, and adopts this knowledge and his experiences using the principal of fair chase to successfully pursue and subsequently harvest the game. I’m a traditional hunter, I choose to be. I don’t use bait to lure game, I don’t sit in a tree, I don’t hide in a blind. I stalk, using terrain, environmental factors, sign, woodscraft and cunning. While not always successful, I believe this to be ethical and in keeping with fair chase. When I do everything right, I come home with game. Nothing is more rewarding than this type of hunting experience.
Hear me out! I sevived a winter long ago on stocked trout.I fished , hunted and scavenged the coolest winter I can remember. I have made it 40+ years since. I was hungry! And I didn't always succeed procuring food. I was employed.... hunting is just that. I spent that cold winter hunting for sustenance. Today I'm blessed . My maker looks out for me.... my favorite hunt now days is behind a birdog trying to knock down a grouse. Thank my maker for this free country. Thanks Ron!
Love the show ron very informal. Keep up the great work buddy
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A true hunter is someone who appreciates the beauty of mother nature, and wild animal's. Shows respect for nature and ethical killing. Someone who knows their own ability and skill. And also knows about their prey. Anatomy of animals. Someone who does it to get "real" food from the wild and not some half produced "super market" food. Someone willing to get in touch with nature and do what we have done for thousands of years. But also willing to further teach that skill and legacy and preserve that way of life.
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We need a 7 PRC compared to 300 PRC. Great content like always.
Ron, I appreciate your willingness to try to define a true hunter, an ambiguous term to say the least.
You've done a lot of traveling, in your travels what do you find to be some of the best conservation practices? It feels like there are so many different models that different states and countries try to use.
Mark, that's a big question, but here's the recipe I like best: sustainable use. Put simply, you assess the reproduction rate of a given species in a given habitat, then limit human hunter harvest to slightly less than that level. Take off older males only if you want herds to increase, females if you need to prevent overpopulation. Off-take must be modified in response to extenuating circumstances such as floods, fires, predation, drought and other natural phenomenon that reduce populations. Critical to all of this is maximizing habitat quality. No reduction of hunter harvest can offset destruction of essential living places: grassland, brush, forest, swamps, tundra, etc. Habitat destruction is the biggest threat to all wildlife, not just hunted species. This is why there are more insects, songbirds, butterflies, rodents etc. on endangered species list than big game, upland birds, waterfowl, etc. Finally, charging hunters in order to pay for habitat maintenance, anti-poaching, etc. covers the bills. Near perfect system. It works best where pragmatic biologists/managers have complete control. Falls apart when ignorant, emotional citizens get involved.
I think we hunt for the experience. Consumption of the animal, feeding a family, the trophy, the time spent with people and everything else is part of that experience.
Sometimes I like to hunt just to get out in the woods and to watch the wildlife. If I kill something it is a bonus
A real hunter has respect to the game and the outdoors! Do what you can and don't forget that clean kills and good times are what matters! Great memories with friends!
And remember that you can't win them all !!
Hey I'm happy just winning a couple!! Hahaha!
Ron Thank you for your video . This is the best one I think I have ever seen you make. Keep up the great work . The true hunter philosophy is truly one of the toughest subjects .
Nicely worded Ron
Blessings Mr. Spomer and May you and your wife have a very merry Christmas! I always really enjoy these videos! I always wanted that 408 CheyTac. Just because.
Other than being ethical and knowing your limits. A true hunter should also master the art of processing the animal. Use as much as possible. Along with being able to make delicious meals to honor the animal and share it with others. 👍🙏✌
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Just discovered this guy today keep the podcasts coming I'm hooked
Good on ya ron
I’m with you on your take on finger position on the trigger. I think over-travel of the trigger has a lot more to do with the effect on accuracy than where your finger contacts the trigger. I think there is a balance that needs to be found between grip, finger placement and over-travel. That’s my experience with handguns, anyway. I’m a lesser rifleman but have competed somewhat successfully with pistols.
LOL your a good guy. I love your show and keep it up.
Thanks Anthony.
Truth be told, I am more of a shooter than a hunter. I can't track to save my life. Fortunately every animal I shot save one died with8ing 6 feet of where I shot it. "The one" an elk ran a bit further but dropped in the open. I do love each and every experience even though I don't always bring something home, save a good memory or two. Win to lose, I always learn something new, and I know all those experiences made me a better person.
Good stuff.
I hunt for everything. It's beneficial in so many ways. Primarily food, but I utilize every part I know how. It makes some people cringe when they see me cut up antlers for handles, buttons, etc. Lol. But i try to use what I can. I leave the rest for for the predators.
Ron has far more patience with these people than I would. What the internet made visible is there are many more secret kings who are very sure of themselves than previously believed. I’m going to try to work on my patience.
Good video. It’s my first time ever watching one of these. In my humble opinion, a true hunter hunts ethically and safely, respects nature and it’s creatures, and strives to give his game a fair chase and a clean death. I have only been into hunting for a couple of years now, but I’ve wanted to do it since I was a kid. One of my mentors is a hunter from Germany named Henrik Lott, he’s also known in Germany as the open sight hunter and his philosophy of hunting I have tried to adopt: less technology and more authentic hunting. Stalking crawling, checking the wind, judging Age size and maturity of the animals properly, then stalking close enough to his quarry once he has selected it in order to take a safe shot using open sights, now that’s REAL hunting. Any true hunter goes out into nature not only to enjoy the age old tradition of hunting, but also because nature fills their soul and recharges their spirit. Nature to me js my spiritual home.
@Brandan Weber that sounds like a good walk. I’d be happy with a doe.
@Brandan Weber it is a dream of mine to hunt in Montana on the power river. Montana is truly beautiful and serene country. Please enjoy it for me until I am able to visit it and hunt there.
@Brandan Weber dude that’d be awesome. I’m sorry but I don’t have your contact info
@Brandan Weber Roger that man
I am going to respectfully and adamantly disagree with "Charles" on the trigger pull. I will not go into my qualifications as I do not feel the need to one-up or compare manhood sizes, but I firmly believe in your position. count me in your camp on this one, Ron. You answered the comment with alacrity and tact...Kudos.
The A1 hunter is the person who goes after animals that are capable
of turning them into prey. Gun and/or bow, knife, wits, supplies & courage.
In the pursuit of not in the act of harvesting. The act of is the end result.
Try again in English pls
Super high BC bullets often need a faster twist rate to stabilize. New barrel? You do a great job Ron. thank you.
Great content ! Thank for the thoughtful response!!
Ps real hunters use a 30-30 Winchester !
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I always fall on the side of ethics and then enjoyment... Meaning do what's right don't take the shots you've never taken just because the rack size is bigger and keep things at reasonable distances because a lot can happen in a very short amount of time that can completely ruin a shot. Enjoy your time in the field by yourself and/or your friends regardless if it's stalking animals or hunting in box blinds. Now I'm not the biggest fan of the long range hunting stuff to me it's just taking hunting in the wrong direction. I'm fortunate enough that I have a 1000 yard range on my property that I shoot out to on a very regular basis and I've taken some silly shots on game animals also. Most of them ended just as you'd hope but a couple of times just as the trigger broke that animal took a step that completely threw off the shot then I had a mess on my hands tracking a wounded animal to put it down and is the reason I dont do it anymore. It really doesn't take to many bad experiences like that to see its not worth it.
Hey Ron you speak the truth! I love it!
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In my experience, all things being equal, trigger control comes down to regular practice with the rifle that you will be using on task.
On the trigger pull thing. I was on a rifle team in High school. We were taught the same was Ron described. Pad of index finger and squeeze the trigger (don't pull it). But heck! Charles sounds like his resume is much more credible than mine.
Love your show, been a hunter/outdoorsman over 50 years, seems so many of these young guys want to whine about something more than the enjoyment of the outdoors,
Thanks Musicman. Most of us figure it out eventually, but the sooner we do, the more we are enriched by it. Keep hunting honestly and shooting straight!
I like to hunt and shoot more than that. , just going is a good challenge for my authridic hind end. ,,giving thanks to the All Mighty for the harvest of an animal ,if I'm in the right spot to do so. Pass on knowledge that has been given to me from old timers who knew much more.
Charles is right about pistol grip rifles like the ARs.... I was taught the same as you Ron, and use that method mostly, but on my AR15 (before our government confiscated it) I did find myself using that first crook because of the ergonomics of the stick design....
I kind of agree with your hunting ethos Ron vis a vis long range. 6-700 yard shots are fairly common here in NZ now with modern calibres and optics. It always seemed a bit unsporting to me to snipe them from half a mile away... but then I learned in 1960 with an milsurp .303 with iron sights, so back then 300 yards was a really long shot on deer (in NZ)... mine was a P14... We used to zero them about 2 1/2" high at 100 and you were "minute of deer" to well over 300....Deer are legally pest animals here (no predators apart from humans and can be shot any time in any numbers), but even so hunters that kill one and don't take as much of the meat as they can carry are really frowned upon, as is anyone that shoots a doe with a fawn at foot..
As for the anti-hunting people, I would suggest they go to an abbattoir and see the animals being killed there... nasty....
Hunting is an activity that must be experienced first hand, as some 'antis' have found when we take them into the bush and they see what it's all about. Their views usually changed right around then. I found with hunting and fishing I had a nice day out even when I didn't get anything to take home. A friend of mind will only take a camera (with no telephoto lens) when his freezer was full. I have seen his pictures taken from 10 or 12 feet away from wild deer.... he was a great stalker...He says they nearly jump out of their skins when the shutter goes 'click'...That's the trick as far as I am concerned, to get well within the prey's sensory range with it unaware of your presence.... 🙂
Hi Ron, been wondering a while but can't find the right info on it, but what burns barrels, take the 22-250 if you load the same load with a 55gr bullet and a 40gr, will the 55gr barrel last longer than the 40gr because of the slower velocity or will they have the same barrel life no matter the weight of the bullet and velocity difference
I think it has more to do with the higher pressures of the burning powder as it's leaving the case while burning up behind the bullet as it travels down the barrel. Larger case diameter to smaller bullet diameter increases these pressures and heat... I would think that because the longer bullets have more surface contact with the bore there would be more friction, thus resulting in more resistance which creates more heat and pressure... I think. 🤔
I’m out for the food, can’t buy venison at the store. Yes I enjoy spending time out in the woods, but I don’t have to hunt to be out enjoying the wilderness I do it the rest of the year not hunting. I was out in the woods today checking tracks and seeing what’s visiting the area since it snowed. The only one I didn’t find tracks for is the local black bear sow, even the red fox came in the yard which is surprising since we just had our dogs up at the river property, she normally steers clear for a good bit after the dogs have been around.
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A true hunter has his 4x4 in good running order with a big v8 engine and has extra boxes of ammo stored in the glovebox then he spends hours beating himself up driving around drinking beer and looking for game sometimes even after dark and he keeps this up day after day until the great day finally arrives and he can lay over the hood and down some game at extremely long range ah what a hunt
Hi Ron, thank you for all the great information you share.
I am new to deer hunting and I was advised to get a 243 rifle.
I am located in south Oklahoma.
Do you think this is a good rifle for beginners deer hunting, and what brand rifle do you advise me to get ?
Thank you
Danny
Hey Ron, you're still not getting it quite right on the 6.8 Western bullets. The 5 factory options are the 162 Copper Dear Season, and the 165 Nosler AccuBond LongRange, which does have the highest BC, and then there are 2 170 options, a 170 Open Tip Match and the 170 Ballistic Silvertip hunting load, and then there is the 175 gn Sierra Tipped Game King!
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As for a look into the "real hunter" concept and into meaning of hunting ethics, every hunter should read "Beyond Fair Chase" by Jim Posewitz. This short book is often used in hunter education programs in several states.
I'm glad you don't make this channel overtly political as to not ostracize anyone, but I do want to correct you on calling us a democratic republic. We are actually a Constitutional Republic, meaning we have an elected government adherent to the Constitution. Democratic nations are only elected by the people, and without a constitution and bill of rights, we can easily fall into tyranny. Thanks for your wonderful insights, I prefer you over any other channel and love your spirit when facing correction. A true gentleman!
I am a true hunter. I am 69 years old and prefer to hunt alone. I may or may not harvest an animal but I enjoy the hunt. I would never comment on whether I consider someone else to be a true hunter. It's a state of mind for me and I love to use the skills I gained over a lifetime of hunting. I don't trophy hunt but will not pass up a trophy. I do hunt for meat and believe everything has a right to life.
When doing comparisons between CARTRIDGES the proper scientific method would be to remove as many variables as possible so, bullets of similar weight, shape, SD and BC should be used.
That lever action right there in the marquee looks kinda sorta maybe like a Remington model 1886 modern 50/110 throwing 6,000 lbs. of energy onto Bullwinkle with no problem...sweet
Ron I always enjoy your show and I am not really making a correction. When talking about long range shooting you started talking about the United States being a country of riflemen and how it helped us win independence. I don't disagree and I think those sorts of things are very important and I think maintaining an armed society is a fundamental part of our ideal society. The fact that the early settlers had a high degree of firearm ownership and skills I'm sure had some degree in the success of the success of breaking free from English rule. However at that time firearm ownership in Europe was far higher than it is now and the right to self defense was a ideal that was important with intellectuals of the time. What was important was the military skills and it was something that we were short of at the time. The revolution was a conflict something very similar to what we see in Ukraine right now. It was very much a proxy war between England and France although many other countries played a part. The French over extended and over taxed their country and it directly sparked their own revolution.
It's a really minor thing to correct and I am not trying to be pedantic. The reason I like your show is that you do such a great job helping us bridge that gap and portray ourselves in a way that invites and doesn't decide. The history that I'm sure you and I grew up on was more or less mythology. I think most of us know that parts aren't actually true but Americans as a whole don't know history all that well. Many things are a charged subject now and those of us in shooting sports should actually know and understand our history and why things are important. I don't have any problem with what you said it's just when you bring up that subject or talk about history it's probably a good idea to show that some of us do know our history and are not a bunch of ignorant rednecks who like to kill things as we are often made out to be. As one of the comments you read shows this is a public forum and it's also the sort of thing that is good for a lot of us who has a traditional background to hear and to realize that changes to history are not bias if they are correcting things that aren't true. It's ok if people in the past had a few flaws, we all have them now and we can respect them as people who overcame real difficulty. It also helps us to reflect on history and that there are reasons why laws were made the way they were and they aren't some sort of holy writings but an actual thoughtful look at problems that continue to accure over time. We had a generation of peace but the world is changing and and understanding of the past is an anchor and a warning.
Trigger pull and finger placement. Just take a pistol, unloaded, that can be dry fired. Pull trigger using the different placement of finger. Keep pulling trigger, go back and forth, watching the muzzle, see if it moves, how much it moves. That will tell you. In my case, the first pad, is a no. Just the natural placement is the best. With a curl around the trigger. Probably a contested point, but if you look at your gun while pulling the trigger, that should be the ultimate test.
A True Hunter is one how doesn't have to make a kill , it is being outdoors enjoying all of nature. One time I was hunting deer and a small group of sparrows (5 or 6) were taking turns eating , I don,t know if a deer came by all because of those birds but I didn't care.
You are onto it, Roger! I remember the thrills of a chickadee perching on my nocked arrow and a great horned owl landing on a branch beside me during some of my first bow hunts. Are you going to use this "sparrow" inspiration to begin learning more about the birds you see? You might be shocked to know that there are 49 different sparrow species in North America alone! Were you being entertained by black-chinned, black-throated, chipping, song, Golden-crowned, Harris, field...? You can "bag" a long life-list of bird species as you hunt. I've ID'd well more than 500 species so far.
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They were about 70 yards away. There was fresh snow and we had a small pile of sweet feed (oats,wheat,rye and molasses ) there was a hole in the snow when one came out and another went in I think they were Field sparrows. This happened 18-20 years ago. I am a birder kinda.
The thoughtful answers are based on the idea that hunting is an archaic activity that exists only as a shadow from our past. I do not like that position. I prefer to think of hunting as maintaining a skill that could be needed again; whether for table food or the elimination of foreign enemies. Marksmanship is part of the equation, but hunting develops the ability to put a bullet into a living animal; not a trivial matter.
As a long time guide in the Northern Rockies my experience has been that non=magnum hunters have a higher success rate than magnum shooters. They know they have to get closer and they rarely flinch. Magnum guys say things like "I brought my 30-378 incase the only shoot I can get is 600 yards" or my favorite from a guy with a 416 Rigby.. "This way I can shoot them in the butt and hit them in the heart."
long range target Practice is Great, long range Hunting of you cant get within 500 yards or less ( if you have the correct rifle) let it want Hunting is part of the Stalk to get closer, putting a bullet 20 or 30 feet in the air so you hope it hits correctly, not for animals, i used to target 800 yards with a 30/378
The 416 Barret and the chytac rounds are not anti material rounds they are anti personnel rounds. They are in the same catagory as 338 lapua not the same ss a 50bmg
A "true hunter" is the one that in two feet of snow on the other side of a canyon about a mile from the truck pulls his knife out to gut his kill and says to himself, "this is going to be fun".
I tru hunter is one that gets the cook pot full without needles crewelty and never take more than is needed
Try “thirty two feet per second,per second” However I believe that figure is for a static drop.
I'm not sure what you mean by static drop, Crime, but 32 fps squared, or 32 fps accelerating at 32 fps, is roughly the right number for gravitational pull on Earth. This rate is the same regardless any other velocities or vectors any object is moving. A bullet fired 3,000 fps at right angles to gravitational pull is pulled at the same rate as one dropped from the muzzle. Even bullets fired straight up at 3,000 fps are pulled 32 fps squared. Ain't physics fun? (P.S., yes I know, gravity doesn't really pull at all. Warps space, if you can wrap your head around that.)
Good character. Acting with morals. Quality ethics. How you behave in private when nobody would know, but you.
How you behave in the woods while hunting if someone you respect the most could see you. What if you had to answer for your actions.
I'm not going to be judged for Salmon limits, am I??? I ate them all. I moved to a place that is over run with deer. The limit is 6 either sex. It helps if someone shoots 8 or 10. The cars are killing 5 per day on the highway.
A real hunter? Does the right thing, regardless of what others think.
Take only what we need , respect the land an hunt with purpose
A true hunter gets within I small Moose range..Or I smell a Buck range, etc.
Question; is that a bullet hole in your CZcams plaque?
Were you target practicing with it, or just mad??
Here's one debate for you regarding ethis and dogs. WHy is it ethical to shoot birds using dogs but not use dogs to chase deer or bear or lion. In some places dogs are leagal on some big game species and there are places it is not. How about baiting?
Hey Ron, listened to the podcast while going for my daily walk. In terms of "What is a True Hunter", A true hunter is an ethical hunter. Some people might say shooting an animal at more than 300 yards does not make a true hunter. I guess in the case of hunting Pronghorn out west, 300 yards might be the closest you could get and you may have had to stalk the animal from much further away, so in my opinion, that is hunting. The yardage could be more or less depending on what you're hunting. I think you have to at least try to get as close to the animal as you possibly can without being detected using the spot and stalk method. Still hunting from a blind or tree stand is also a valid method of hunting. Some people might say the only true hunter is a guy walking through the woods with his trusty .30-30 taking a shot at under 100 yards. We can all debate on what is a true hunter, but I like what the last guy said, A true hunter does the right thing when no one is looking!
DOes the DCM program still exist? I got a free M1 Garand when I got involved back in the day
i need a video on 6.5-06, seems like a cool round but i dont see many people work with it at all. is there a reason why?
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Charles is dead on with his comments, Im not a master class anything, just and old hunter who all his life has been told to use the first pad of his finger, something I can not do, but doing what feels natural seemed to work both in the 23 years in the USMC and in hunting for 60+ years, natural for me brings the trigger in contact around the first finger joint and the second pad of my finger...there are times the EXPERTS just do not get it correct.
A true hunter is a person who hunts don't matter what where or who there are some better than others but hunters just the same
What qualifies as a real hunter largely depends on the circumstances.
I suppose a hunter is somebody that enjoys eating fresh meat, weather they process the game them selves or have it processed for them. I would have to add that the true hunter should be all about the meat, wasting none.
I killed a coyote at 1100yards in1982 with a 243 Remington 788 head shot about 11ft of drop I now realized how fantastic that was
Someone who enjoys hunting will more likely be a better hunter, because he will work at improvement.
Feet per second is a measurement of VELOCITY. feet per second squared is a unit of ACCELERATION. they are not the same thing. Saying feet per second in regards to acceleration is categorically wrong.
Ron, my Dakota 76 won’t eject. Any ideas?
Jelly
Take it to a gunsmith
A true Hunter ; we all have our own definition. To me a true Hunter is someone who you can turn loose in the woods with nothing. He will find flint and fiber and wood. He will make knives bows arrows ,traps ect from what's available.
He will flourish if he really is a true Hunter.
Sounds like me in a loin cloth, but I'm native. See you out there!!
The question is "what is a true hunter"...In my opinion it means that he or she can be dropped into a landscape with only a knife or bare essentials and feed him or her self successfully in an ongoing situation... people that do not possess these skills are not "true hunters" and must join the ranks of "gatherer" for sustenance...a "true hunter" possesses many skills to say the least...my description is simply a skill set of attributes but what I feel is not saying that a modern equipped person cannot successfully hunt without said skillsets...
A "true hunter" is one which Chuck Norris hides behind when a Grizzly is charging.
True hunter hunts with a purpose
I at least have to tell my wife I only hunt for food 😅
RON!!! Please review the Hunters Ed info regarding long range hunting. Highly discouraged. My 9yo just completed the online portion of Hunters Ed and she heard you talking about shooting animals at a very long range. She replied,
”doesn’t sound ethical”.
The idea of not wanting the animal to know you are there. It's called ambush hunting. It's effective.
I always close my eyes right before I jerk the trigger and I can almost always get it on the paper.
I don't think anyone gets to gatekeep what "A Hunter" is. Poachers, trapper's, neanderthals rolling a boulder down a hill, or even early humans setting fire to a savannah. Just because we don't like it, or want to be associated with it, or it doesn't conform to our modern ways doesn't exclude it. Hunting has nothing to do with ethics, morals, politics, or legality, We Do! Ethical hunters, hunter conservationist, subsistence hunters, we all just live in our little bubble or maybe several bubbles in the giant hunting venn diagram.
We can hunt with a camera or a weapon.
A true hunter is a person who has the patience and skill to stalk game and read sign. There able stalk within 200yards , ethical distance,in the timber. And make a clean shot and take the animals quick. They use a bullet and cartridge that matches the game there hunting. That's my idea if a real hunter . Not these guys with 6 thousand dollars rifles,and 2 thousand dollar scopes that set up on a hill somewhere and shoot animals at 7 8 900 yards. That's target practice on living creatures. I feel bad for guys like this that actually call themselves hunters.
A true hunter doesn't soy out and us an AR
Rattlesnakes don’t kill with poison. They kill with venom.
A livestock farmer, can be seen as a hunter?! Rifles made the killing more effective, domestication makes finding the animal easier.
Something to ponder over
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LOL. The comments here. I hunt. That's it.
Hahaha Charles talking like a sniper and still in the military. Awesome video Ron keep up the great work
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Certainly trapping was the method hundreds or thousands years ago. In modern times, we can be too effective via trapping. Trapping usually utilizes bait and/or scent which then gets the fastest and probably best reproducing animal of the group to the trap, thereby 'retarding' the game animals. Pre civilized humans migrated, decimating life in whole areas then moving on. Hunting big game maybe has done the reverse; perhaps the stone age methods of taking big game typically got the weaker ones of herds, now our firepower allows easy taking of the perceived strongest of herds. The conservation practices certainly have success and continues to make hunting possible and worthwhile.
Modern game/wildlife management is working beautifully and there is no indication of genetic decline. New world record sizes of all big game species in N.A. have been recorded in recent decades. Elk, whitetails, bighorns larger on average than ever. Heavily trapped furbearers like coyotes, red fox, raccoon, etc. are thriving. Genetic bottlenecks are are rare thing brought on by bigger events than limited, regulated human harvest. It's mainly climate and habitat related. The genetic viability of grizzly bears in San Francisco, for instance, is dismal. In northern Alberta where the bears have been hunted annually for decades, they are thriving.
Correction for you Ron. The U.S. is a Constitutional Republic, not a democratic republic.
Hunters go for meat( pelts and hides count as well for predators), going for antlers or trophies makes you a sportsman
If you hunt from a stand are you a true Hunter? If you put animals on your property and then hunt them are you a true hunter? If you lure animals to your tree stand or blind with a feeder are you a true hunter?
as a high power rifle shooter and shooting instructor... Charles is wrong.