Montaigne, On Friendship: Ellie Anderson and David Peña-Guzmán

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  • čas přidán 8. 01. 2024
  • Dr. Ellie Anderson and Dr. David Peña-Guzmán, philosophy professors and co-hosts of Overthink podcast, discuss Michel de Montaigne’s famous essay, “On Friendship”. Ellie and David give some context for the text through Montaigne's friendship with Étienne de la Boétie and how la Boétie's death shaped Montaigne’s creation of the essay form. They attempt to answer some questions that arise from the text: do love and friendship require or follow reason? Can one be platonically polyamorous-have more than one true friend? How does Montaigne’s theory of friendship diverge from Aristotle’s, and how does it form a critique of universalism in ancient philosophy more broadly?
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Komentáře • 30

  • @tjberrian
    @tjberrian Před 4 měsíci +1

    The commitment to not being self-contradictory is just *chef’s kiss*. Love the vibes.

  • @bourdieufan7433
    @bourdieufan7433 Před 5 měsíci +8

    the coolest philosophers in the game

  • @qtaroj
    @qtaroj Před 9 dny

    love the ending - searching is re-searching!!

  • @rhiyabhattacharyya880
    @rhiyabhattacharyya880 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I honestly love your discussion sessions. They are sooo wholesome. Please keep them coming ❤

  • @Dino_Medici
    @Dino_Medici Před 5 měsíci +23

    Green suit for the win

  • @DemetriosKongas
    @DemetriosKongas Před 5 měsíci +8

    I think that the friendship between Marx and Engels was exemplary in terms of mutual admiration and intellectual cooperation. They were also ‘comrades-in-arms’ for a society of justice and equality. In their friendship, it is true that Engels supported Marx and his family financially, without which he would probably not be able to write his magna opera.

  • @robertalenrichter
    @robertalenrichter Před 5 měsíci +2

    Another interesting conversation. I've heard and read about Montaigne in French media over the years, but had no idea about this extreme conception of friendship. However, I also believe that there is a hidden meaning or purpose in life, so that was his experience. Can't even imagine being fused with someone, and who wants to feel like "half a person" afterwards?

  • @MandyMoorehol
    @MandyMoorehol Před 5 měsíci +2

    Montaigne’s essay On Smells inspired my book lol

  • @Jay_The_Cat
    @Jay_The_Cat Před 5 měsíci +2

    Dr. Ellie! 🧠🧠🧠💪💪💪
    Dr. David! 🧠🧠🧠💅💅💅

  • @stephanesigouin2049
    @stephanesigouin2049 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Très intéressant. Vous êtes mes amis imparfaits préférés.

  • @jessukawska5245
    @jessukawska5245 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I read a French blog about their relationship; honestly felt like a wattpad fanfiction... all the citations were suggesting one thing. Also I honestly recommend you to check on Virginia Woolf's essay Montaigne published in The Common Reader. I wrote a piece on their essayistic style of writing and similarity regarding defining what obstacles a person creating an honest essay is finding.

    • @Verulam1626
      @Verulam1626 Před měsícem

      Hi. I would love to read your piece. Can you send it via email, or?

  • @sierramaestra4998
    @sierramaestra4998 Před 5 měsíci

    I was looking to buy penguin great ideas of "on friendship". Thanks this is a great overview before I read it

  • @manuelfcasas3472
    @manuelfcasas3472 Před 5 měsíci

    Montaigne's ideas are always worth pondering about. It would be interesting to compare, in Montaigne's view, friendship and love and how one influences, encourages or hinders the other. They are two feelings which boundaries are frequently tricky to establish with precision.

    • @hellebartelsen8208
      @hellebartelsen8208 Před 5 měsíci

      By "love" do you mean romantic love or Eros? Because friendship is also love.

  • @wildukind442
    @wildukind442 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Friendship will be the last family in the dying West - Oswald Spengler

  • @firesalamander4795
    @firesalamander4795 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Woo the nails 💅

  • @priapsus
    @priapsus Před 4 měsíci +2

    I have had one friend (who, sadly, also died young) in my life, like de La Boetie. There was nothing sexual about it, so none of this sounds strange to my ears and, unless there is some historical evidence to the contrary, one needn't jump to the conclusion that there was something "sexual" between Montaigne and de La Boetie. Having read the essay, I am even less inclined to believe so.

  • @bobcabot
    @bobcabot Před 4 měsíci

    plz read Lindemann´s essay " Was ich liebe..."

  • @adriangee4272
    @adriangee4272 Před 5 měsíci

    Marissa G Franco's Platonic is a great modern book on platonic relationships.

  • @emmakorb5990
    @emmakorb5990 Před 2 měsíci

    Ellie is so Drew Barrymore coded

  • @christiansmith-of7dt
    @christiansmith-of7dt Před 5 měsíci +1

    You are better people than me , now you owe me money

  • @mikeycham3643
    @mikeycham3643 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I get why folks think you're dating. Watching y'all figure shit out together, is adorable.

    • @brenkelly8163
      @brenkelly8163 Před 5 měsíci

      I’m certain attacking the people means you listened to nothing on the subject.

    • @Gemelli_ar
      @Gemelli_ar Před 2 měsíci

      That's all you got out this video? Smh

  • @MrJamesdryable
    @MrJamesdryable Před 5 měsíci

    I am not a rapper.

  • @crackedcoco
    @crackedcoco Před 4 měsíci

    Guys, I love your videos. Can you please please please color grade your vids? Your color profile is very very flat.

  • @brenkelly8163
    @brenkelly8163 Před 5 měsíci

    Incredible to know that essay was created in the 1500s in France. Socrates had been dead for 1800 years, and there was absolutely no tradition carried on between his death and 1200. There was just a massive frozen wasteland to the north of the Greeks who wouldn’t go up there because it was full of “pink barbarians.”So how was this “tradition” transmitted generation after generation when everyone was illiterate? How Western is Western Civilization when the uncivilized Anglo illiterate pink barbarians invaded the Celtic aisles starting 450 AD, killing the Celts who were learning to read and being Christianized. Look, I don’t care if the French, British and Germans stole Greek ideas 1,800 after they died, but anyone could have stolen them.

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    @Fernando-du5dq Před 4 měsíci

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