You might want to make sure you have all the information before you put a product down. I have a DD1 which has broke pins in 2 podium LE F1 Wheels. Because of this i have no choice but to upgrade to the QR2 or replace the QR1 i have. Also Fanatec is going to give you a choice of the QR2 or QR1 when you buy wheels or Bases. You put out info with half the info.
I also ordered the DD1 and it came with a separate Q2 base adapter. It was easy to install. I opted for the Pro wheel side because I have more money than brains apparently, and the fit of these two components is absolutely awesome. I will agree that the Pro is indeed overkill, but I just had to. My other wheels will be receiving the die cast version. Fanatec is showing the new DD1 as coming with the QR2 pre-installed. The Fanatec ecosystem may be looking a little strange but the QR1 will likely hang around for any base that is 8nm or less, but for the bases that are strong enough to destroy the QR1 and/or wheel.
you have no choise because fanatec designed a bad product to sell you a V2 version after, but fanatec fanboys are known for having the same IQ as their nm of ther bases
A 24 minute rant on the Q2 is such an unnecessary upgrade. Translation: “It is too expensive for me, so I will do a mild dis to express my displeasure.”
They can't win, if they had just brought out the new Q2 system with no ability to upgrade your Q1 people would have gone crazy. They did the right thing to offer backward compatability, but now be called out for wanting money from it. Just ordered the DD+ (and 4 QR2) which will be my third type of wheelbase over the last 10 plus years, never had a problem with any of them. They are an absolute mess when it comes to producing enough product, speed of shipping and keeping you informed, but they have been ground breaking in the products they've offered us over the years. Loads of companies now on the bandwagon but I will always be grateful for them giving me another option to the Thrust /logi gear. The day I opened the box with my Porsche 918 wheel (V1) was an absolute wow moment, especially when you compared it to what was available then.
There is always that one dude who’s trying to be different and fabricate something to go against the grain of everyone else to seem relevant. It’s also hard to take advice from a guy playing an arcade game against AI set to easy so he can drive past them like they’re standing still. The new QR2 isn’t perfect but literally fixed every issue with the QR1 for the same price the QR1 use to cost.
Every company upgrades stuff , ps4-ps5 . If you want to buy it buy it. A lot of stuff with sim racing is , is it for fun so Logitech g29 ( nothing wrong with it) or more serious lap time racing. With a QR2 if you get a bit more confidence with it driving that will give you lap time so maybe the upgrade will benefit you. For this reason . If you have a dd pro , dd1 or 2 your more than likely to class it as a hobby rather than pass time so would warrant the upgrade. As far as I can see the new 12 and 15nm systems come with it as standard so will need to force an upgrade all the rest are optional ?
Totally agree, it's no different than upgrading your gear in any hobby. I'm waiting on the DD+ (all my friends play on PS😡) it does come with the new fitting. Its not been a problem for me as my son is having my CSL dd pro and my 3 V1 wheels that can't be upgraded.
lmao that's like if somebody sells you a broken door and then after that they sell you a "good" door that actually locks your house as a "upgrade" I swear fanatec fanboys have bugs in their heads like fanatec firmware does
@@keomg4718 not really it does work as have one and will have the new qr2 when it arrives with the DD plus . You don’t HAVE to upgrade if you don’t want to as claimed on the video. Guess you woundnt know with your G29 🤣
A Torque wrench/driver tool is cheap. You should have one if you built an aluminum extrusion chassis, or if you work on cars, bikes or guns. Also, Loctite bolts that are subject to vibration.
I change ALL my wheels, xbox hub and custom rims for QR2. Its a game change. No more screws attached on DD2, extremely easy to change wheels. The best choice its a QR2 ( no lite or pro, because lite with plastic and pro its overprice product ).
Wasn't an issue at all and is super easy to do. Price is worth it for sure. You over thought it before even trying yourself. All qr2s work better then qr1. Its so so easy to do. Also people are over thinking this. Omg it takes 8nm so what. Get a wrench that measures it for you. Also no you dont need to be identical. Either way you over thought this. Now 6 months later everyone wants the qr2. And we are about to see all wheels and bases m being qr2 also.
i have 10 fanatec Wheels and i had a V2.5 / DD1 and now a DD2... never had any issues with any wheel / base.... no upgrade for me so far... at least not for next 2 years or so...
Agreed, they can definitely provide a wrench key with a torque marker, and at that price point they should. I also won't be upgrading. I'll be glad to take the v1 wheels of someone's hand with irreplaceable hubs.
Another reason to upgrade to the QR2 is if you switch between wheels a lot then then the QR2 is much quicker and easier. The QR1 isn't hard but it is a bit time consuming. Turn the locking knob, pull the wheel off hopefully without hitting your chest or face, adjusting the stem to be in the correct position, put on the wheel, tighten the locking knob. QR2 you pull the mechanism back and pull on the wheel, then push on the new wheel. My QR2 system comes in today so I'll be curious if I can feel any differences between the two.
I have 4 rims that I've upgraded and it's been awesome so far. I haven't had any flex and it seems I have a bit more feeling in the rims as well. I can play DR2 for a bit then quickly switch to AMS 2 and change my wheel in seconds which I really like.
I have gt dd pro and while using psvr2 with gt7 can switch rims with qr2 easily without taking vr2 off. I just got got the qr2 lite as Im not going above 8nm. Pretty solid i must say. Qr1 with the slot slop is absolutely unacceptable.
Fanatec just began offering the metal QR1 wheel side quick connect again on the website for $49.95 each. I just ordered one. However, I previous ordered the new QR2 base side connector so I would already have it when I decide to finally update to the QR system.
Black Friday. QR1 just sold out. QR2 Pro sold out as well. QR2 black planned to be available in the middle of January. And QR2 Lite isn't an option because of feedback limits with this. Successfull Black Friday! 😃 Plus issues with QR1 are very individual. And depending on Base unit, QR1 unit and wheel itself. Plus a bit of luck. 🍀
The qr1 has a terrible slack when turning the wheel from left to right while there is strong ffb. You can feel the wheel move over the shaft. I had to turn the screw of the qr1 180 degrees further then supposed to stop this from happening. The qr1 sucks bigtime
Interesting points and very helpful. My experience with the QR1 USB-C is the base side has some issues with slipping out the DD. I did a blog post on how I fixed with some sand paper. Because I bought the QR1 Lite wheel side, I'm thinking I'll end up ordering the QR2 with non-Lite version wheel side. If the base side similarly slips, I'll do the same sand paper mod.
At least torque wrenches are cheap. Especially the wrenches made for bikes. I'll be jumping in. I want a QR2Lite combo and one regular QR2. And I am using a CSL-DD wheelbase, although I plan on upgrading to the CS-DD a while after it is available.
Coming into this late but bro....while QR1 is serviceable QR2 is a much more durable stiffer solution especially if you race a lot...I switched mine out in under ten minutes. It seems that your biggest gripe is the expense and sorry nothing in this world is free.
EDIT: At the time of recording, the QR1 was out of stock and there was no information in regards to the future of the QR1. Fanatec has since made a statement stating they will continue to sell QR1 during this transition period and offer customers the option to order the QR1 with new wheel orders.
I was thinking about upgrading to the QR2 but then they dropped the price on the QR1. Your assumption of not getting QR1s is wrong, they are in stock. Just getting those to replace the QR1 Lite on my two wheels. My third wheel, I just ordered, I ordered a QR1 with it. I see no reason to change it all for a CSL DD Pro at 8 nm. I only run maybe 6 nm max.
I'm not upgrading because it's an added cost that for me is just... not needed. My QR1 makes a tiny creak sometimes... but it works. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Plus the cost of the QR2 is on the expensive side, and now a Fanatec price gouge. Yet another scumbag move... not surprised.
The only reason they made the QR2 is because they are losing market share, because every other sim gear company out there has a better QR than their old slow screw method, even Logitech made one and they don't even have an ecosystem, ThrustMaster is the same deal, they were forced to make both a DD base and a new QR just to stay relevant
Hello I’m thinking the same as you. It would cost me about 400 to upgrade and I’m happy enough with what I’ve already got. I was lucky that the Qr 1s that I got were all snugly fitting. I believe that some came out with a bit of play.
I wish people weren't autists that think they need machined aluminum for their toy steering wheels. A solid polymer system is more than strong enough to use without needing the exorbitant cost of 5 axis machining.
For a Podium DD Lito option isn't good. Peak took is disabled and limited about 10-12 NM. At max. So... No. And by feeling it's an enormous difference! But for CSL DD it may work pretty good. Especially for a 5nm model.
It's noisy ?! for my part I have a DD1 and it makes no noise, and I received my QR2 for the DD1 base and three for my steering wheels, Excellent quality and 5 seconds to put a second steering wheel. I don't regret my purchases.
@@karlallen6055lol fanatec didn’t pioneer high quality 😂😂 fanatec is junk!! I’ve owned many fanatec items and they are all garbage for what you pay!! Also the new clubsport dd wheel base is trash you update the firmware and wheels don’t register lol. Sold all my fanatec and went full simagic and haven’t had one problem. People ride fanatec D because they have weak ass console support 😂😂😂 meanwhile sim racing on console is a pure joke.
You might want to make sure you have all the information before you put a product down. I have a DD1 which has broke pins in 2 podium LE F1 Wheels. Because of this i have no choice but to upgrade to the QR2 or replace the QR1 i have. Also Fanatec is going to give you a choice of the QR2 or QR1 when you buy wheels or Bases. You put out info with half the info.
You get the option to choose, but still have to pay the premium for it
I can confirm this as I have just ordered a load of stuff.
I also ordered the DD1 and it came with a separate Q2 base adapter. It was easy to install. I opted for the Pro wheel side because I have more money than brains apparently, and the fit of these two components is absolutely awesome. I will agree that the Pro is indeed overkill, but I just had to. My other wheels will be receiving the die cast version. Fanatec is showing the new DD1 as coming with the QR2 pre-installed. The Fanatec ecosystem may be looking a little strange but the QR1 will likely hang around for any base that is 8nm or less, but for the bases that are strong enough to destroy the QR1 and/or wheel.
you have no choise because fanatec designed a bad product to sell you a V2 version after, but fanatec fanboys are known for having the same IQ as their nm of ther bases
My QR1 feels solid, not sure if its been revised or not, but its way more solid than my G29 which didn't even have QR @keomg4718
A 24 minute rant on the Q2 is such an unnecessary upgrade. Translation: “It is too expensive for me, so I will do a mild dis to express my displeasure.”
They can't win, if they had just brought out the new Q2 system with no ability to upgrade your Q1 people would have gone crazy. They did the right thing to offer backward compatability, but now be called out for wanting money from it.
Just ordered the DD+ (and 4 QR2) which will be my third type of wheelbase over the last 10 plus years, never had a problem with any of them. They are an absolute mess when it comes to producing enough product, speed of shipping and keeping you informed, but they have been ground breaking in the products they've offered us over the years.
Loads of companies now on the bandwagon but I will always be grateful for them giving me another option to the Thrust /logi gear. The day I opened the box with my Porsche 918 wheel (V1) was an absolute wow moment, especially when you compared it to what was available then.
There is always that one dude who’s trying to be different and fabricate something to go against the grain of everyone else to seem relevant.
It’s also hard to take advice from a guy playing an arcade game against AI set to easy so he can drive past them like they’re standing still.
The new QR2 isn’t perfect but literally fixed every issue with the QR1 for the same price the QR1 use to cost.
Every company upgrades stuff , ps4-ps5 . If you want to buy it buy it.
A lot of stuff with sim racing is , is it for fun so Logitech g29 ( nothing wrong with it) or more serious lap time racing. With a QR2 if you get a bit more confidence with it driving that will give you lap time so maybe the upgrade will benefit you. For this reason .
If you have a dd pro , dd1 or 2 your more than likely to class it as a hobby rather than pass time so would warrant the upgrade.
As far as I can see the new 12 and 15nm systems come with it as standard so will need to force an upgrade all the rest are optional ?
Totally agree, it's no different than upgrading your gear in any hobby.
I'm waiting on the DD+ (all my friends play on PS😡) it does come with the new fitting. Its not been a problem for me as my son is having my CSL dd pro and my 3 V1 wheels that can't be upgraded.
lmao that's like if somebody sells you a broken door and then after that they sell you a "good" door that actually locks your house as a "upgrade" I swear fanatec fanboys have bugs in their heads like fanatec firmware does
@@keomg4718 not really it does work as have one and will have the new qr2 when it arrives with the DD plus . You don’t HAVE to upgrade if you don’t want to as claimed on the video. Guess you woundnt know with your G29 🤣
Totally agree. My QR1's have been rock solid.
A Torque wrench/driver tool is cheap. You should have one if you built an aluminum extrusion chassis, or if you work on cars, bikes or guns. Also, Loctite bolts that are subject to vibration.
I change ALL my wheels, xbox hub and custom rims for QR2. Its a game change. No more screws attached on DD2, extremely easy to change wheels. The best choice its a QR2 ( no lite or pro, because lite with plastic and pro its overprice product ).
Wasn't an issue at all and is super easy to do. Price is worth it for sure. You over thought it before even trying yourself. All qr2s work better then qr1. Its so so easy to do. Also people are over thinking this. Omg it takes 8nm so what. Get a wrench that measures it for you. Also no you dont need to be identical. Either way you over thought this. Now 6 months later everyone wants the qr2. And we are about to see all wheels and bases m being qr2 also.
they should include the qr2 base side with the base
i have 10 fanatec Wheels and i had a V2.5 / DD1 and now a DD2... never had any issues with any wheel / base.... no upgrade for me so far... at least not for next 2 years or so...
So far off the mark. They’ve offered every option to keep the qr1.
Whether people believe it or not the qr2 is a big upgrade.
Agreed, they can definitely provide a wrench key with a torque marker, and at that price point they should. I also won't be upgrading. I'll be glad to take the v1 wheels of someone's hand with irreplaceable hubs.
Another reason to upgrade to the QR2 is if you switch between wheels a lot then then the QR2 is much quicker and easier.
The QR1 isn't hard but it is a bit time consuming. Turn the locking knob, pull the wheel off hopefully without hitting your chest or face, adjusting the stem to be in the correct position, put on the wheel, tighten the locking knob.
QR2 you pull the mechanism back and pull on the wheel, then push on the new wheel.
My QR2 system comes in today so I'll be curious if I can feel any differences between the two.
and? how is it?
I have 4 rims that I've upgraded and it's been awesome so far. I haven't had any flex and it seems I have a bit more feeling in the rims as well. I can play DR2 for a bit then quickly switch to AMS 2 and change my wheel in seconds which I really like.
I have gt dd pro and while using psvr2 with gt7 can switch rims with qr2 easily without taking vr2 off. I just got got the qr2 lite as Im not going above 8nm. Pretty solid i must say. Qr1 with the slot slop is absolutely unacceptable.
Fanatec just began offering the metal QR1 wheel side quick connect again on the website for $49.95 each. I just ordered one. However, I previous ordered the new QR2 base side connector so I would already have it when I decide to finally update to the QR system.
I don't see that price. It says 99,99
@@prorace_type_r I just checked Fanatec website again and it going for $49.95 USD and I ordered a second one.
Me to i buy it on black friday for 19.99€ and it is in rhe shelf for when i buy a wheel and come with qr2 without pay the 100€ more...
totally worth it upgraded my dd pro with the metal one feels so much more detail and got rid of that notchyness in the middle
I really think you should try it. I love it. If you try it and don’t like it just sale it but man it’s locked in like you wouldn’t believe.
you play GT, it's ok. We understand you.
cala boca McCaco, fanatec will never sponsor your ass
Black Friday. QR1 just sold out. QR2 Pro sold out as well. QR2 black planned to be available in the middle of January. And QR2 Lite isn't an option because of feedback limits with this. Successfull Black Friday! 😃
Plus issues with QR1 are very individual. And depending on Base unit, QR1 unit and wheel itself. Plus a bit of luck. 🍀
The qr1 has a terrible slack when turning the wheel from left to right while there is strong ffb. You can feel the wheel move over the shaft. I had to turn the screw of the qr1 180 degrees further then supposed to stop this from happening. The qr1 sucks bigtime
If I was having any issues with the QR1 I would upgrade my two wheels, but as of now, I have no reason to upgrade.
Interesting points and very helpful. My experience with the QR1 USB-C is the base side has some issues with slipping out the DD. I did a blog post on how I fixed with some sand paper. Because I bought the QR1 Lite wheel side, I'm thinking I'll end up ordering the QR2 with non-Lite version wheel side. If the base side similarly slips, I'll do the same sand paper mod.
At least torque wrenches are cheap. Especially the wrenches made for bikes.
I'll be jumping in. I want a QR2Lite combo and one regular QR2. And I am using a CSL-DD wheelbase, although I plan on upgrading to the CS-DD a while after it is available.
Coming into this late but bro....while QR1 is serviceable QR2 is a much more durable stiffer solution especially if you race a lot...I switched mine out in under ten minutes. It seems that your biggest gripe is the expense and sorry nothing in this world is free.
EDIT: At the time of recording, the QR1 was out of stock and there was no information in regards to the future of the QR1. Fanatec has since made a statement stating they will continue to sell QR1 during this transition period and offer customers the option to order the QR1 with new wheel orders.
I've got the Qr2, i love it!
I was thinking about upgrading to the QR2 but then they dropped the price on the QR1. Your assumption of not getting QR1s is wrong, they are in stock. Just getting those to replace the QR1 Lite on my two wheels. My third wheel, I just ordered, I ordered a QR1 with it. I see no reason to change it all for a CSL DD Pro at 8 nm. I only run maybe 6 nm max.
qr2 is awesome. maybe not meant for your entry level setup.
painful but maybe they will get now more new hardware
Liked the video, you should go PC and do some racing sims!
I'm not upgrading because it's an added cost that for me is just... not needed. My QR1 makes a tiny creak sometimes... but it works. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Plus the cost of the QR2 is on the expensive side, and now a Fanatec price gouge. Yet another scumbag move... not surprised.
And never listen to a sim racer who doesn’t race in cockpit mode when they use a wheelbase 🤣🤣🤣
I just switched to simucube
8nm (70 in lb) (5.9 ft lb)
Qr2 should be included with new products
The only reason they made the QR2 is because they are losing market share, because every other sim gear company out there has a better QR than their old slow screw method, even Logitech made one and they don't even have an ecosystem, ThrustMaster is the same deal, they were forced to make both a DD base and a new QR just to stay relevant
You don't need to buy the QR2 shaft because if you've bought a Fanatec you've already been shafted. Badump tss
QR2 was like the GTA6 of sim racing
No one's telling you you should upgrade.
Hello I’m thinking the same as you. It would cost me about 400 to upgrade and I’m happy enough with what I’ve already got. I was lucky that the Qr 1s that I got were all snugly fitting. I believe that some came out with a bit of play.
So then don’t upgrade lol
I wish people weren't autists that think they need machined aluminum for their toy steering wheels. A solid polymer system is more than strong enough to use without needing the exorbitant cost of 5 axis machining.
For a Podium DD Lito option isn't good. Peak took is disabled and limited about 10-12 NM. At max. So... No. And by feeling it's an enormous difference! But for CSL DD it may work pretty good. Especially for a 5nm model.
You will
You really have NO IDEA what you’re talking about.
Fanatec is garbage! Sell it and buy a real dd wheelbase
Bro, you are so salty...
I hate fanatec... and that I ever bought a DD2... its noisy as f... - and they dont get a dime from me ! Sell it and buy elsewhere.
It's noisy ?! for my part I have a DD1 and it makes no noise, and I received my QR2 for the DD1 base and three for my steering wheels, Excellent quality and 5 seconds to put a second steering wheel. I don't regret my purchases.
Have no any issues with a dd2 as well.
You hate the company that have litterly pioneered high quality sim equipment, whoever you move to won't be perfect.
@@karlallen6055lol fanatec didn’t pioneer high quality 😂😂 fanatec is junk!! I’ve owned many fanatec items and they are all garbage for what you pay!! Also the new clubsport dd wheel base is trash you update the firmware and wheels don’t register lol. Sold all my fanatec and went full simagic and haven’t had one problem. People ride fanatec D because they have weak ass console support 😂😂😂 meanwhile sim racing on console is a pure joke.