How Current UFC Champs Can Become The GOAT Of Their Division. 2024 Edition

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • In this video I discuss what every current UFC champion needs to do to surpass the GOAT of their weightclass. I discuss how Ilia Topuria can pass Alexander Volkanovski at Featherweight, how Dricus Du Plessis can pass Anderson Silva, how Islam Makhachev or even Charles Oliveira can pass Khabib and more. Let me know what you think in the comments.
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    Time Stamps:
    0:00 Intro
    1:04 Alexander Volkanovski's & Ilia Topuria
    8:48 185lbs Anderson Silva & Dricus Du Plessis
    13:42 155lbs Khabib & (Islam Makhachev / Charles Oliveira)
    21:17 125lbs Mighty Mouse & Pantoja
    27:40 135lbs Dominick Cruz vs (O'Malley & Merab)
    34:22 170lbs GSP & Leon Edwards
    39:13 Heavyweight Stipe Miocic & Aspinall
    43:08 205lbs Jon Jones & Alex Pereira
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  • @rohinkaushal2434
    @rohinkaushal2434 Před 3 měsíci +841

    Congrats to all these fighters for becoming the goat of their division without needing to do this

    • @nikotheclam3615
      @nikotheclam3615 Před 3 měsíci +20

      whattt????😭😭

    • @terrencemaday5946
      @terrencemaday5946 Před 3 měsíci +39

      😂I’m afraid the curse might be over though 😓

    • @ethanhawkins3391
      @ethanhawkins3391 Před 3 měsíci +8

      😭😭😭

    • @armageddonmma8907
      @armageddonmma8907 Před 3 měsíci +14

      @@terrencemaday5946 hopefully it comes back for Pereira vs Hill

    • @Spectonimous
      @Spectonimous Před 3 měsíci +15

      ​@terrencemaday5946 it only lasted a year. He's been getting all of these main events right lately

  • @Hypah
    @Hypah Před 3 měsíci +571

    Topuria, Makhachev and Aspinall are the only 3 most likely to achieve GOAT status.

    • @faithalone5081
      @faithalone5081 Před 3 měsíci +87

      Topuria only if he doesnt get too greedy(highest chance)
      Maklechev needs to fight more
      Aspinall needs better comp hw sucks except a select few

    • @rwholemilkisgood5050
      @rwholemilkisgood5050 Před 3 měsíci +93

      ⁠@@faithalone5081if anything topuria has the lowest chance, only because its just way earlier in his career

    • @vincentw3566
      @vincentw3566 Před 3 měsíci +38

      ​@@rwholemilkisgood5050he is just gonna get better after defeating the fw Goat, but in his last press conference (yesterday in Spain) he said that he wants 1 more fight in FW and then go after makhachev and after that he wants to fight Canelo, he really just wants to follow the money. If he does what he says he is gonna do, he might be the biggest what if in all UFC history 😢

    • @vincentw3566
      @vincentw3566 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@rwholemilkisgood5050you cant watch the interview because he speaks spanish, ask me if you want what he has been saying, i follow him a lot

    • @mrx6787
      @mrx6787 Před 3 měsíci +15

      Topuria? 😂

  • @SublineYT
    @SublineYT Před 3 měsíci +134

    So Henry isn't an "all time win" because a lot of his legacy comes with his resume at 135, but Islam beating Volk is an "all time win" even though Volk's legacy is pretty much entirely at 145? Double standards

    • @upliftmofo
      @upliftmofo Před 3 měsíci +11

      Didn’t you listen? Henry isn’t an all time win, because he isn’t on his top 15 of all time list

    • @olly2596
      @olly2596 Před 3 měsíci +8

      Exactly if you a double champ you've been a champ and two weightclass how are you not an All time win makes no sense. Cejudo fan but he even defended it at two weight classes
      It's same with Al how can you class Dober as a good win when the highest he has reached is number 12 least Al made it to number 4 but he isn't a good win.

    • @codextalks8562
      @codextalks8562 Před 23 dny

      @@olly2596because the competition at those weight classes are shit vs competition at others being higher.

  • @adellis24
    @adellis24 Před 3 měsíci +258

    Constructive Criticism: Thinking BJ Penn isn't an All-Time level opponent is a wildly naive take for someone seemingly so well versed in the sport.

    • @Rugbiii
      @Rugbiii Před 3 měsíci +63

      Yeah BJ ruined his career by moving all over the place. Started at LW, moved to WW, fought at HW outside of the UFC, finished his career at FW. That doesn’t get mentioned enough

    • @s66s46
      @s66s46 Před 3 měsíci +73

      Fr, lucas is so arrogant and acts like he knows everything

    • @holocade4908
      @holocade4908 Před 3 měsíci +76

      Calling lucas "seemingly so well versed in the sport" is crazy. Dude is obviously a casual who started watching in 2016-17

    • @rif5556
      @rif5556 Před 3 měsíci +17

      Well versed in the sport is comical lol, the dude started watching MMA like 5 years ago and spouts off whatever he thinks will get him views 🤣 the dude still doesn't understand that Age doesn't = fight age, I wouldn't take his opinion seriously on anything MMA. Literally just one of those dudes who watched their first mma fight at a bar with friends thought to himself "Wooooowwww this is badass dude!" And then decided to make it his entire personality 😂

    • @UsykWillBeatFuryViaEzDecision
      @UsykWillBeatFuryViaEzDecision Před 3 měsíci +84

      @@holocade4908being a newer fan is not the same as being s casual. Stop talking kid

  • @woahblackbetty7691
    @woahblackbetty7691 Před 3 měsíci +91

    Your take on Leon and GSP is absolutely wild. This vid is more like an exposè on how much of a casual you are 😂

    • @SublineYT
      @SublineYT Před 3 měsíci +51

      Funny how he considers Darren Elkins a notable win for Volk because he had a 5 fight win streak, and then ignores guys like Jon Fitch and Josh Koscheck who had 16 and 5 fight win streaks before fighting GSP (GSP vs Koscheck 1).

    • @jakelongstaff4102
      @jakelongstaff4102 Před 3 měsíci +24

      dude missed three different champions off of Andersons wins yet called Elkins notable. like sure griffin, newton and Franklin aren't notable but Darren Elkins is?

    • @euqasi3653
      @euqasi3653 Před 3 měsíci +3

      ​@@SublineYT And Jose aldo is the real GOAT of FW

    • @armplanet7524
      @armplanet7524 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@SublineYTfacts

    • @kbend
      @kbend Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@SublineYT jake shields was also on about a 13 fight win streak when he fought gsp as well. This dude hates gsp. He’s like the Nick wright of mma

  • @itoshikiii6008
    @itoshikiii6008 Před 3 měsíci +75

    this is the problem when comparing two different fighters especially when they fought in totally different eras

    • @smartwater598
      @smartwater598 Před 3 měsíci +2

      It’s not that different

    • @ItsameAlex
      @ItsameAlex Před 3 měsíci

      Why is Israel adesanya not the goat of middleweight? kos over pereira,whittaker, costa are more impressive than what silva did, correct?

    • @Chrissan_VA
      @Chrissan_VA Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@ItsameAlexno

    • @rais6036
      @rais6036 Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@@ItsameAlex True but he also had snoozers with Marvin ,cannonier ,Romero and lost to Alex once and arguably lost to whittaker

    • @chaostotalwar2799
      @chaostotalwar2799 Před měsícem

      @@ItsameAlex no Izzy is noot even close to silva lol

  • @MMA-Mishap
    @MMA-Mishap Před 3 měsíci +155

    If you have Derek Bumson as a person to be highlighted on someones resume you have to put Whittaker, not even a question. Shouldn't even be debated.

    • @SceptilePetile
      @SceptilePetile Před 3 měsíci +19

      Derek Brunson was on the notable win list. Whittaker was too. He was referring to the “all time great top 15 fighters”

    • @GigaChadDuPlessis
      @GigaChadDuPlessis Před 3 měsíci +8

      Imagine calling brunson a bum. His only recent losses are to cannonier and ddp. You casuals make me lauvh😂

    • @young_bee
      @young_bee Před 3 měsíci +2

      Bro what are you talking about???

    • @user-kf3is7bt2v
      @user-kf3is7bt2v Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@GigaChadDuPlessishe got KOd by Izzy if I am not mistaken.

    • @That-One-Spy-Main
      @That-One-Spy-Main Před 3 měsíci +3

      ​@@user-kf3is7bt2v
      ,,recent losses"
      The Izzy KO was like 6 years ago

  • @gabooned5261
    @gabooned5261 Před 3 měsíci +97

    lucas coming in with the unique video ideas

    • @adequatequality
      @adequatequality Před 3 měsíci +3

      really? You must be new to MMA CZcams

    • @dallasalexander8112
      @dallasalexander8112 Před 3 měsíci +31

      @@adequatequalitynah this is pretty unique he added lots of variables to make it more interesting and unique

    • @MatthewMcRowan
      @MatthewMcRowan Před 3 měsíci

      @@dallasalexander8112 get out of his pants mate his underwear will be wet from all this anus tounging

    • @timurjack8773
      @timurjack8773 Před 3 měsíci +1

      He think BJ Penn is not top 15 all time due to the losses he took at the end, fair enough. But then ignores Oliveira's 9 losses, and says Oliveira can be LW Goat, double standard.

    • @IrishUFOs
      @IrishUFOs Před 3 měsíci

      but andersons second fight in the ufc was for a title, first time watching this channel rough takes

  • @willavery5124
    @willavery5124 Před 3 měsíci +32

    Lucas must hate Anderson Silva because his disrespect towards him is wrong

    • @jakelongstaff4102
      @jakelongstaff4102 Před 3 měsíci +13

      literally didnt even put his most notable wins on, like he missed out Newton, tanner and griffin all of which were champions yet hell put on Darren Elkins who's never seen a belt or been even remotely close

    • @RickyCary
      @RickyCary Před 3 měsíci +8

      It's what happens when you don't grow up watching them. Can't truly appreciate their greatness when you start watching them on their decline.

    • @BamOn742
      @BamOn742 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Agree, his views are really showing how new he is to ufc coverage, but love everything else 😂

    • @BamOn742
      @BamOn742 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@jakelongstaff4102also forest griffin after forest lost the LHW title...he sounds very casual and when he does this his showing that he is trying to target the casual audience😂

  • @owenstryker7760
    @owenstryker7760 Před 3 měsíci +36

    I think you count Whitaker as an all time win especially if we’re just focusing on the middleweight division Bobby Knuckles is without a doubt one of the best middleweights of all time

    • @Triumphantchild
      @Triumphantchild Před 3 měsíci +12

      Whittaker’s the third greatest MW of all time. First is Silva, second is Izzy.

    • @That-One-Spy-Main
      @That-One-Spy-Main Před 3 měsíci +3

      He is either 3 or 4 of all time
      The only one who could be next to him there is Weidman
      But I think Whittaker's resume is better because the two Silva wins are kinda questionable cuz one was because of Silva doing a 0IQ emote and the other one a random leg break check

    • @VazmanianDeviI
      @VazmanianDeviI Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@That-One-Spy-Maineven if it wasn’t questionable. Weidman only has 6 notable wins. while Whittaker has 11. beating monsters at the time in Romero 2x & Jacare. plus his other 8 notable wins. he’s definitely above Weidman it ain’t even a debate.

    • @skeletoncrew6500
      @skeletoncrew6500 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ⁠@@That-One-Spy-Mainhonestly MW is so weak with it’s GOATs that the 3rd is a toss up between Whittaker, Weidman, Mousasi, and maybe Franklin
      Also you the Silva fights for Weidman aren’t really that questionable (the 2nd has a minor asterisk at worst)

    • @That-One-Spy-Main
      @That-One-Spy-Main Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@skeletoncrew6500
      ,,Weak with it's GOATs" is kinda the wrong thing to say
      It's just that Izzy and Silva stand out so much
      Silva was the standout in the old generation
      Izzy in the current one

  • @mcdonalchee
    @mcdonalchee Před 3 měsíci +7

    The thing about comparing resumes is that a lot of people talk about the old goat like they weren’t dominating the best fighters of their era. The reason why rich Franklin and Chael seem like mid wins is because of how good Anderson was for his era, they were great wins at the time

  • @TONY_N_CHI-TOWN
    @TONY_N_CHI-TOWN Před 3 měsíci +57

    I think Dustin and Justin are some of the best lightweights ever and you should count the all time guys by how they rank in their weight class

    • @Chille10
      @Chille10 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Lol

    • @yehiak8711
      @yehiak8711 Před 3 měsíci +19

      Def top 5-10 lightweights of all time

    • @ghoul5371
      @ghoul5371 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@yehiak8711Gaethje isn’t there quite yet

    • @ItsameAlex
      @ItsameAlex Před 3 měsíci

      Why is Israel adesanya not the goat of middleweight? kos over pereira,whittaker, costa are more impressive than what silva did, correct?

    • @timurjack8773
      @timurjack8773 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Also if Drew Dober (no.14 ranked) is a notable win for Makhachev, then Pat Healy (no.10 ranked at the time) and Michael Johnson (no.6 ranked at the time) are notable wins for Khabib too.

  • @keion_arknights
    @keion_arknights Před 3 měsíci +27

    I think you really ought to take a second look at DJ's competition. Dodson has wins over TJ, Munhoz, and Nathaniel Wood, all while up a weight class. And DJ has 2 wins over him.
    Kyoji Horiguchi fought up a weightclass and won belts in Bellator and Rizin, and his only losses that he didn't win back were a). a fluke spinning back fist from a guy he was dominating, and b). getting backpacked in a david and goliath style fight where he was vastly outsized at bantamweight.
    Benavidez is that guy at flyweight, close decisions with Cruz, Cejudo, DJ himself, and all the while firmly setting himself over the lesser guys like Formiga, Elliot, Moraga, Bagautinov, and Ortiz.

    • @tbriecheese
      @tbriecheese Před 3 měsíci +3

      and also just not even considering Cejudo as a all time win is just absurd. Lucas loves to play the asterisk game with cejudo but his achievements still make him easily a top 25 fighter of all time, there is literally no arguing that. Lucas definitely underestimates DJ and his resume its ridiculous

  • @Jmtc3
    @Jmtc3 Před 3 měsíci +10

    Alex Pereira has no shot. He’s older than Jon Jones lol

  • @regardlesslamron2096
    @regardlesslamron2096 Před 3 měsíci +11

    I think Aspinall has the easiest path tbh. I don't see anyone beating him at HW

    • @martyfakenewsman101
      @martyfakenewsman101 Před 3 měsíci +3

      facts

    • @MM33003
      @MM33003 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Aspinall is going to lose to his soy knees

    • @martyfakenewsman101
      @martyfakenewsman101 Před 3 měsíci

      @@MM33003 didnt look so soy against sir gay

    • @MM33003
      @MM33003 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@martyfakenewsman101They looked soy against Blaydes. 🤷‍♂️

    • @martyfakenewsman101
      @martyfakenewsman101 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@MM33003 and then he got the surgery he needed and hes come back looking the best hes ever been. u weird guy.

  • @natebiggs2880
    @natebiggs2880 Před 3 měsíci +21

    Alex pereira with 7 more title wins at 3 fights a year (which is rare for champions) would be 39 at the youngest. If he’s still sleeping killers at that age as consider him a goat candidate

    • @spleecksss
      @spleecksss Před 3 měsíci

      Jons resume is also so rocky because of his steroid issues, if Pereira is 40 sleeping guys like Ankalaev, Jamahal Hill, and surging new contenders you have to give him that, especially because JBJ has lost before (Reyes fight)

    • @imalifeformknownasmanuel3019
      @imalifeformknownasmanuel3019 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Lucas is high, The fact he considers Jan and Jiri better opposition than say Bader, lets you know everything, 40 year old Jan only became champ because every one who was good was gone, and Jiri had like 3 UFC fights and was on the verge to losing to 40+ year old Glover. Neither Jan or Jiri can wrestle , Bader would have mauled both.

    • @imalifeformknownasmanuel3019
      @imalifeformknownasmanuel3019 Před 3 měsíci

      @@spleecksss You can say the same about Alex, he arguably lost to 40 year old Jan, Alex's title fight win was over a guy coming off a year layoff who basically gets KO'd in every fight he has and people want to call him the GOAT? lol Jiri and Jan don't even compare to a win like Bader, both get ragdolled by him.

    • @natebiggs2880
      @natebiggs2880 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@imalifeformknownasmanuel3019 not to mentioned the jones beat glober badly when he was much younger

    • @yehiak8711
      @yehiak8711 Před 3 měsíci +1

      He's not going past Hill and if he does he's most definitely not going past Ankaleav (if he doesn't do the stupid shit he did against Jan). Hes going to outwrestle him (Alex has basically no ground game compared to every single champion) and probably get the belt

  • @willavery5124
    @willavery5124 Před 3 měsíci +45

    Rich Franklin is well clear of Darren till

    • @animetool4087
      @animetool4087 Před 3 měsíci

      Cap

    • @jakelongstaff4102
      @jakelongstaff4102 Před 3 měsíci +11

      true how does this man know so little about og mma, hell act like khabib fought monsters but will pretend silva fought bums

    • @spleecksss
      @spleecksss Před 3 měsíci +2

      ⁠​⁠@@jakelongstaff4102he literally said in the video that Khabib has no notable wins, he never fought any top 20 all time guys and even his best wins arent that impressive lol, current MMA fighters are much more skilled and well rounded even compared to guys 15 years ago due to the MMA explosion

    • @Deez_Nutsss123
      @Deez_Nutsss123 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@jakelongstaff4102silva did fight bums lol

    • @jakelongstaff4102
      @jakelongstaff4102 Před 3 měsíci +2

      listen to his takes in other vids, he has kabobs as the 5th goat, yet Anderson isn't even top 10 to him its hilarious@@spleecksss

  • @MMA-Mishap
    @MMA-Mishap Před 3 měsíci +42

    I don't see Tuporia surpassing Volks GOAT status in a long time. The resume is almost unbelievable/unheard of. Losing only 4 rounds until your first offical KO loss, I don't see Tuporia getting close to the same resume. We'll see.

    • @benjthewhite
      @benjthewhite Před 3 měsíci +6

      Quality of resume I don’t see happening but since he has so much time he may exceed number of defences but I still think he won’t reach it, especially since his hardest fights will be soon with the Volk rematch, Max, and Yair

    • @That-One-Spy-Main
      @That-One-Spy-Main Před 3 měsíci +3

      I mean he has the potential
      There are a bunch of guys that he can defend his belt against
      Yair, Ortega, Evloev
      Those are 3 good contender wins
      Max and maybe Volk in a rematch
      Those are 2 of the greatest in the division
      Maybe even Aljo if he is good enough to earn himself a title shot at 145
      That would be one of the greatest guys in the division below
      Maybe O' Malley if they actually fight
      That would be a win over the current champ in the division below and could age well depending on how good O'Malleys resume will be
      Those would be 7 more title wins and he is only 27
      He can for sure do that
      If he beats all these guys he would have 8 title wins over very good competition and would not only be the Featherweight GOAT but probably top 5 of all time

    • @ellieswagaye
      @ellieswagaye Před 3 měsíci +3

      i just don't see the round stat as relevant with 2 of his 3 fights against max being highly disputed among the people. Outside of those 2 i'd say the stat accurately represents his dominant career, just gotta account for shit judging.

    • @benjthewhite
      @benjthewhite Před 3 měsíci

      @@ellieswagaye It’s about what the official majority of judges agree. Volk won 49-46 on first fight, close 48-47 second fight. If we doing what the fans think were the w there would be a lot of variation as to what counted

    • @sebbuh
      @sebbuh Před 3 měsíci +1

      Topuria will definitely pass Volk in goat status, he’s only 27 and the only guy who can give him trouble is Yair. If he can stay dominant for 6-7 more years he’s going to crush Volks resume

  • @alphared3772
    @alphared3772 Před 3 měsíci +14

    I think 4 is too few to surpass Anderson. But 6 or 7 against elites should be enough.

    • @honorylealtad5596
      @honorylealtad5596 Před 3 měsíci

      It is funny how you melancholic casuals cant get over the fact that mma has evolved so much and betapen and silva are not that good 😂😂😅

    • @honorylealtad5596
      @honorylealtad5596 Před 3 měsíci

      Yoel romero and du plessis are already better than silva

    • @chikanma5021
      @chikanma5021 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@honorylealtad5596that means Izzy is the middleweight goat

    • @honorylealtad5596
      @honorylealtad5596 Před 3 měsíci

      @@chikanma5021 izzy the runner? Lmao

    • @That-One-Spy-Main
      @That-One-Spy-Main Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@honorylealtad5596
      I mean his competition is better for sure

  • @Scorpio_Rising_1
    @Scorpio_Rising_1 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Volk lost more than 4 rounds in Fw career bro. I believe going through the scorecards it was like 7.

    • @yoaregey7296
      @yoaregey7296 Před 3 měsíci +1

      He is glazing Volk he needs to understand Volk is not FW Goat its Aldo

    • @ricardouyema
      @ricardouyema Před 3 měsíci

      @@yoaregey7296 He is typical Volk fan. Because Volk is so universally loved, any valid criticism seems like blasphemy. Aldo is quite comfortably the GOAT, especially if you witnessed his reign.

    • @timurjack8773
      @timurjack8773 Před 3 měsíci

      2nd Max fight was split decision, Max should've won that, Volk lost minimum 1 round to Max in 1st fight, even Ortega was going to win 5th round vs Volk.

    • @ricardouyema
      @ricardouyema Před 3 měsíci

      @AHALKALAKETS Calling someone a casual just proves your the casuals. You literally have no response and probably salty Volk came up short to Aldo's reign. I mean for fuck sakes one of Volks title defenses is against an washed up, aged post military service TKZ, someone who Aldo beat in his run when TKZ was far better at that stage of his career. Aldo reign was far more well versed.

    • @ricardouyema
      @ricardouyema Před 3 měsíci

      @AHALKALAKETS And still has a a better legacy then all of them. By your logic Weidman is greater than Silva. Which I know you dont agree with.

  • @spiphieboi7079
    @spiphieboi7079 Před 3 měsíci +54

    i seen a statistic on twitter that showed that in Ilia Topurias 15th fight he beat the featherweight goat. and in khabibs 15th pro mma bout he fought a fighter with an impressive record of…
    0-0
    it goes to show that because you have an undefeated record doesn’t mean you’re great/ have an impressive record

    • @MASTRA1
      @MASTRA1 Před 3 měsíci +18

      Not a fair comparison, khabibs from a poor village in dagestan. Harder to get to the ufc and you take fights if you can get them, ilia is more wealthy and got in the ufc easier.

    • @spiphieboi7079
      @spiphieboi7079 Před 3 měsíci +20

      @@MASTRA1 just saying you shouldn’t glorify khabibs record so much because a lot of his earlier fight were straight trash

    • @oNextq
      @oNextq Před 3 měsíci

      @@MASTRA1life ain’t fair if you wanna equalize things like that then it’s impossible to compare anyone.

    • @MASTRA1
      @MASTRA1 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @spiphieboi7079 that's called fighting in the regional scene, it's very normal. Conors first two fights were against 0-0 guys. His 3rd was a 5-4 guy. This is not abnormal at all

    • @MASTRA1
      @MASTRA1 Před 3 měsíci

      @oNextq you can compare anyone, but context matters. For example, DJ has a lot of title wins, but most of his title wins are against subpar flyweights. Therefore, just looking at a stat without context is a futile argument

  • @faleo1044
    @faleo1044 Před 3 měsíci +52

    Love the way you put out content low key creative af how you got all this ideas

    • @leandersantos2477
      @leandersantos2477 Před 3 měsíci +17

      Found Lucas burner haha

    • @clovers6690
      @clovers6690 Před 3 měsíci +11

      so true, wish mma guru made more content like this

    • @ogreface8
      @ogreface8 Před 3 měsíci +23

      @@leandersantos2477Man there’s nothing wrong with giving credit where it’s due. Lucas could easily just make fight predictions and cover drama like everyone else, and he’d be good. But he shakes things up by making cool vids like this

    • @Spectonimous
      @Spectonimous Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@clovers6690I'm glad that we get a variety of content from various MMA channels. It makes it more interesting that we don't get the same type of videos from every guy

    • @deeeeeeznutz
      @deeeeeeznutz Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@SpectonimousLucas is gurus son 😒

  • @iz560
    @iz560 Před 3 měsíci +4

    5:18 Topuria didn't lose any round to Mitchell, he win the first one in all three judges scorecards and finished him in the second.

  • @ryankubinski8789
    @ryankubinski8789 Před 3 měsíci +17

    I actually cannot believe Lucas has become my favorite CZcamsr

  • @wazat4094
    @wazat4094 Před 3 měsíci +20

    Lmao you made this vid only to glaze Volk 😂

  • @Slim-MMA
    @Slim-MMA Před 3 měsíci +4

    This casual includes Elkins as a notable win for Volk but disregards Aldo's wins as 'bad competition' just because he's too stubborn and lazy to watch old fights.

  • @willavery5124
    @willavery5124 Před 3 měsíci +13

    Get Darren Elkins tf outta there, lucas will put him in but refuse to put Jose Aldo’s credible wins in

    • @L47M
      @L47M Před 3 měsíci +2

      5 fight win streak Elkins

    • @willavery5124
      @willavery5124 Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@L47M against no names, Aldo has about 10 more notable wins than Darren Elkins

    • @jbzaddy1980
      @jbzaddy1980 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@willavery5124not really. Elkins was on actually on a 6 fight win streak beating Micheal Johnson, Dennis Bermudez, mirsad becktic

  • @Brock.R
    @Brock.R Před 3 měsíci +21

    Love the content as always.

  • @ratirati9831
    @ratirati9831 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Topuria didn't lost round to mitchel

  • @P-V-H
    @P-V-H Před 3 měsíci +15

    Ilia did NOT lose a round to Bryce Mitchell.

    • @yoaregey7296
      @yoaregey7296 Před 3 měsíci

      Also where did he get Khabib lost 3 rounds? lol he barely lost 2, Gaethje? Conor? whos the 3rd

    • @P-V-H
      @P-V-H Před 3 měsíci

      @@yoaregey7296 tibau

    • @JesusGarcia-pz6vg
      @JesusGarcia-pz6vg Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@yoaregey7296the dude that was roided out of his god damn mind, i dont remember his name

    • @JesusGarcia-pz6vg
      @JesusGarcia-pz6vg Před 3 měsíci

      Gleison Tibau

    • @timurjack8773
      @timurjack8773 Před 3 měsíci

      @JesusGarcia-pz6vg , judges score Tibau fight 30-27 for Khabib

  • @KingGeorgeMannix
    @KingGeorgeMannix Před 3 měsíci +2

    Really fun concept to think about, thanks for the video

  • @WhiteBeard640
    @WhiteBeard640 Před 3 měsíci +3

    If this video got a 2024 edition. We also need a top 10 strikers 2024 edition

  • @unsub6737
    @unsub6737 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Lucas over here playing favourites & showing recency bias. Champions can only compete in the era they're in i.e where the level of mma & skills were. Judge them against their contemporaries at the time. Don't compare champions or contenders from one era to a different era, they're not supposed to be the same bc of mma's development & growth. U can't penalise those who came before for competing when mma was where it was, u can only judge them against those competing against them at the time bc that's where the level of mma & skills were yet they rose above to become the best & dominate.

    • @rif5556
      @rif5556 Před 3 měsíci

      The recency bias is cus he's only just started watching mma recently

  • @Billfredbobob
    @Billfredbobob Před 3 měsíci +6

    Oh come on Lucas, I like the video concept and you - but implying that Darren Till is as good or better than a win over Rich Franklin is just ignorant

  • @cesare4926
    @cesare4926 Před 3 měsíci

    You are definitely the most creative MMA channel right now. My fav MMA channel at the moment

  • @zakkeaton9569
    @zakkeaton9569 Před 3 měsíci +6

    lucas i LOVE ur videos!

  • @kovo7
    @kovo7 Před 3 měsíci +15

    What about Forest Griffin in Silva's wins

    • @TONY_N_CHI-TOWN
      @TONY_N_CHI-TOWN Před 3 měsíci +6

      I hate people don’t bring that up more he embarrassed Griffin bad

    • @That-One-Spy-Main
      @That-One-Spy-Main Před 3 měsíci +2

      Wasn't that at LHW?

    • @jakelongstaff4102
      @jakelongstaff4102 Před 3 měsíci +2

      does it matter it only makes his case stronger In reality, he's beaten a ww, lhw and mw ufc champion, no one of his generation or ours has did that, newton, griffin and Franklin, plus he beat Hendo prides only double champs. he's a p4p all time great and Lucas disrespects him way to much@@That-One-Spy-Main

    • @upliftmofo
      @upliftmofo Před 3 měsíci

      Was at LHW, so irrelevant for this video

    • @kovo7
      @kovo7 Před 3 měsíci +1

      yeah it was at LHW fair enough

  • @euqasi3653
    @euqasi3653 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Bro, GOAT of FW is Jose Aldo

    • @michaelsun-qh5xe
      @michaelsun-qh5xe Před 2 měsíci

      Imo volk surpasssd him also in his opinion too, I think it’s debatable nothing wrong with aldo being the goat

    • @richard.f
      @richard.f Před měsícem

      Aldo is very underrated. Also many times ppl are very disrespectfull towards him.

  • @skit.
    @skit. Před 6 dny +1

    Him saying Holloway is going to get a beating from Justin aged like milk

  • @meatmanmagoo
    @meatmanmagoo Před 3 měsíci +1

    With how unpredictable fighting can be, its wild some of the guys on this list are on the Pound for Pound list. Beating a P4P fighter should be an entry into the discussion rather than a massive jump in the rankings imo

  • @julianjay9640
    @julianjay9640 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Lucas said dricus needs 4 -5 title defences to be higher than silva, but Israel adesanya has 8 title wins and needed 3 more to overthrow silva? So nearly 3 times as many as dricus to become middleweight goat that makes no sense, Izzy has wins over Anderson and an even more dominant win over Whittaker than dricus has, he finished Costa who I think would beat dricus

    • @originaltruths2305
      @originaltruths2305 Před 2 měsíci

      izzy had so many close decisions and silva was like 38 when he fought izzy. whereas if dricus got 5 title wins they wouldnt be decisions

  • @pkouls23
    @pkouls23 Před 3 měsíci +9

    I think Max Holloway is very high up All time goat list. Genuinely higher than khabib ngl
    Also Whittaker is (currently) the 3rd best middleweight of all time. He has Izzy’s resume minus title fights since he was second to izzy (even though he won the second fight).

    • @DADRB0B55
      @DADRB0B55 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Izzy resume isn’t that good, outside of Whittaker himself, Weidman has a superior resume than Whittaker & has more title defenses Whittaker isn’t top 3

    • @That-One-Spy-Main
      @That-One-Spy-Main Před 3 měsíci

      He did not win the second fight dude
      Y'all need to stop being biased and thinking that every close fight is a robbery
      It's so annoying

    • @pkouls23
      @pkouls23 Před 3 měsíci

      @@That-One-Spy-Main did I say the word robbery? I said he won it was imo and widely shared with online judge breakdowns.

    • @That-One-Spy-Main
      @That-One-Spy-Main Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​​@@DADRB0B55
      I mean Whittaker 2x, Yoel and Pereira > everyone on Weidman's resume
      And guys like Jared for example are also solid wins
      (His Silva wins are all nice and cool but Silva was way past his prime and one win was by Silva doing a 0 IQ emote and the other one was some once in a lifetime leg break so it don't value this that much)

    • @That-One-Spy-Main
      @That-One-Spy-Main Před 3 měsíci

      @@pkouls23
      Many people saying the same lie doesn't make it the truth dude
      You didn't say the word but by the way you said ,,he won the second fight" you basically say that it was a robbery for you,
      Right?
      And yeah as I said
      A close fight is not instantly a robbery
      There are still so many people till this day who wanna tell me that fights like Volk vs Max 2 or Volk vs Makhachev 1 were robberies

  • @culeaxel4520
    @culeaxel4520 Před 3 měsíci +5

    This is why Kevin Lee is the greatest fighter of all time

  • @jaqarious4339
    @jaqarious4339 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Love to see how much your channel been blowing up. Keep it up lucas

    • @georgivasilev8428
      @georgivasilev8428 Před 3 měsíci +2

      The French fans have been subscribing en-masse . The BSD glazing is paying off.

  • @MR_FACTSSSSSS
    @MR_FACTSSSSSS Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love your unbiased views as always...

  • @rafaelcosta2087
    @rafaelcosta2087 Před 3 měsíci

    Honestly I think all your takes made sense, great video idea

  • @nicolasm9391
    @nicolasm9391 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Takes from a guy that started watching 3 years ago

    • @jakelongstaff4102
      @jakelongstaff4102 Před 3 měsíci +3

      legit, dude will put Elkins as notable. but not bonnar, griffin, newton, Franklin. I mean marquardt was on a 4 fight streak. by Lucas's own logic he deserves to be notable same as level who was on a 5 streak same as Elkins.

    • @timurjack8773
      @timurjack8773 Před 3 měsíci

      He only become Volk fan after Makhachev decision loss 🤣 Even though people told him that could be close fight he was saying Volk has 0 chance then after close decision he suddenly become Volk fan.

  • @figrider
    @figrider Před 3 měsíci +2

    Topuria said it himself "the division sucks right now, we need some young guys to fight and claim it", he knows it himself that the division has way less talent and memorable fighters than before.

  • @jacksonjordan871
    @jacksonjordan871 Před 3 měsíci

    I’ve been a guru fan for a loooooonnggg time. He’s been my favorite mma content maker for many years. Lucas Tracy, welcome. I was hesitant at first but brotha..We love ya! This video is cool as hell love your stuff bro keep it coming Guru & LT are the only S tier mma content makers 👍🏻

  • @ayden_collazo9425
    @ayden_collazo9425 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Keep up the epic content

  • @jonathancherry8098
    @jonathancherry8098 Před 3 měsíci

    Many people seem to overlook Johnny Hendricks victory over GSP. Thank you fir getting it right,. I felt so bad for Hendricks.
    Great video! Great observations!

  • @neelpatel8538
    @neelpatel8538 Před 3 měsíci +9

    Can we get a best chin tier lists

    • @Rugbiii
      @Rugbiii Před 3 měsíci +5

      Not to overstep on your request but I think a glass canon tier list would be better. Guys like Overeem, Johnny Walker, Phil hawes. Had the skills but not the chin to be champ

    • @clovers6690
      @clovers6690 Před 3 měsíci +3

      basil hafez

    • @s66s46
      @s66s46 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@Rugbiiiovereem? Wouldnt anyone get koed by francis almost?

  • @dominick366
    @dominick366 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I like this video concept

  • @elikerr785
    @elikerr785 Před 3 měsíci

    These are all solid, but I think the fashion in which they've fought and won is important as well. Maybe not strictly speaking, but guys who are winning compared to guys who are completely styling on their opponents and finishing everyone leave a bigger mark than their records show often times. Awesome video!

  • @ilivelifeso1
    @ilivelifeso1 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think a big argument for DJ is that he was just way ahead of the competition at the time.

  • @heresthethingyouguys
    @heresthethingyouguys Před 3 měsíci +1

    Alexander 'Chin way up in the air' Volkanovski

  • @user-ge9qj2re5e
    @user-ge9qj2re5e Před 3 měsíci +1

    You should do a video on who the UFC wants to be champion in each weight class.

  • @LloydOnFights
    @LloydOnFights Před 3 měsíci

    Killer thumbnail, you got me

  • @athleteoftheyear
    @athleteoftheyear Před 3 měsíci +3

    wish we went live tonight but i got on during the day

  • @Tyler-if1zd
    @Tyler-if1zd Před 3 měsíci +2

    How do you leave Rashad Evans off of Jones’ notable wins? He was 17-1 and on a 4 fight win streak when they fought each other

  • @pandaslayer11
    @pandaslayer11 Před 3 měsíci

    LOVED the LW GOATs discussion. Definitely the most chaotic division to rank when deciding who reigns as all-time supreme. Especially when we’re currently in the middle of finding out which wins are even gona age the best.

    • @timurjack8773
      @timurjack8773 Před 3 měsíci +2

      BJ Penn > Oliveira. He says BJ Penn not top 15 great then says Oliveira can be LW Goat. Reason is BJ Penn's losses, ok how about Oliveira's 9 losses that includes unranked Felder?🤣

    • @plzineedtogowayrn6353
      @plzineedtogowayrn6353 Před 3 měsíci

      @@timurjack8773facts, his logic inconsistent asf

  • @vblegh1620
    @vblegh1620 Před 3 měsíci

    Very entertaining!

  • @saadalikhan3031
    @saadalikhan3031 Před 3 měsíci +9

    Lucas, Khabib lost 3 rounds? I Thought 2? McGregor and Gaetche. What is the third?

  • @austin1519
    @austin1519 Před 3 měsíci

    Great video by Lucas

  • @BamOn742
    @BamOn742 Před 3 měsíci +1

    A young Silva destroys all off off the MW division today

  • @abhisekbhattarai1583
    @abhisekbhattarai1583 Před 3 měsíci +4

    John dodson ,benavidez they are very good fighters

  • @MAT-wn5fr
    @MAT-wn5fr Před 3 měsíci +2

    Topuria arguably won round 1 against Volk. Clearly landed the more effective and damaging strikes.

  • @loganlehman2494
    @loganlehman2494 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love how last year Lucas was talking about cejudo being a top 6-7 mma fighter ever and now he’s “not top 15” and “overrated”

  • @lachyo8743
    @lachyo8743 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Lucas is so blinded by his hate for o’malley, how tf is an old aldo an all time win and the second best bantamweight ever isn’t

    • @lucastfitness7299
      @lucastfitness7299 Před 3 měsíci

      All time win means: a top 15 fighter ever. Do you think Aljo is a top 15 best fighter of all time ? Hell no. But Aldo is

  • @ricardouyema
    @ricardouyema Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lucas your contradicting yourself. You can't say "Aldo was 33", there is a difference between age and milage. Aldo was fighting elite competition at 21 and was World Champion by 23. Aldo had significantly more milage on his body by 30 than Max and Volk ever did. Matter of a fact, When Aldo was World Champion, Volk had not even trained MMA yet. Topuria beating a 35 year old Volk and saying he was old is looking at things in hindsight. He had literally defended his belt in dominant fashion to Yair after an incredible performance vs Islam, and made a terrible short notice decision again Islam and lost his #1 p4p status.
    The signs were there for Topuria to knock Volk out. Head kick or no head kick from Islam, Topuria could have KO'd him regardless. Volk is known for getting clipped and knocked down a few times. Someone like Topuria was always more than capable turning his lights out.

  • @yehiak8711
    @yehiak8711 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Don't wanna be a Makhachev rider but the KO wasn't a fluke, there was a video of his coach showing off him practicing the kick feints and then head kick.

  • @henriqqqqs
    @henriqqqqs Před 3 měsíci

    Great content

  • @siya2195
    @siya2195 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Matt Hughes disrespect is crazy

  • @Palaecro
    @Palaecro Před 3 měsíci

    I appreciate that you're analyzing based on quality vs quantity. Far too often the amount of wins is all people look at.

  • @-M3RL1N-
    @-M3RL1N- Před 3 měsíci

    Hey i wasn’t sure if you had does this but here’s a video idea: Best UFC fight tier list. I think it would be interesting

  • @emjon_6029
    @emjon_6029 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think there so many variables for goat talks the way people win and the pressure and hype of opposents, DJs sub win over Ray Borg for example

  • @jackraklander3966
    @jackraklander3966 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Do you think volk can get belt back? I think he should sit the next featherweight title fight out he still gets a rematch for the belt better to leave it see if it’s still topouria or not and also gives u more info on who he’s gunna fight. Thoughts?

  • @JosiahSullivan
    @JosiahSullivan Před 3 měsíci +3

    Jones would need two fights to be HW goat: Stipe, and Aspinall would definitely give him GOAT at HW. If he care this much about his Stipe fight then he would need too much to push him to one more fight for triple goat status.

    • @tbriecheese
      @tbriecheese Před 3 měsíci

      Hell no. Beating stipe at this time of his career is not a notable win sorry, he's an old man now who hasn't fought in ages and off a knockout loss. Plus being the HW goat off only 3 wins... give me a break. Stipe's career trumps over those 3 measly wins and that's assuming if he can even beat Tom (he can't, have you seen how fat he is at the moment).

  • @potatoeater8014
    @potatoeater8014 Před 3 měsíci +10

    "derek bumson" 😭😭

    • @That-One-Spy-Main
      @That-One-Spy-Main Před 3 měsíci

      One of the few good trash talk lines that Izzy had
      But that one is actually funny ngl

  • @thebestofthewest9409
    @thebestofthewest9409 Před 3 měsíci

    you've grown pretty quick i remember when you said you were starting out on tiktok

  • @OmairKhan-xs5uh
    @OmairKhan-xs5uh Před 3 měsíci +2

    wsg lucas love you videos!

    • @ItsameAlex
      @ItsameAlex Před 3 měsíci

      dude(lucas) you're coping so much about sean o'malley jesus christ, you called joe pyfer salty? you're on top of the salt mine my dude!!!

  • @passivepuppy52
    @passivepuppy52 Před 3 měsíci +5

    bryce mitchell is a notable win?

  • @russellbrosam1722
    @russellbrosam1722 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lyoto deserves your respect

    • @timurjack8773
      @timurjack8773 Před 3 měsíci

      Lyoto won the belt vs Rua 1st fight fluke decision, everyone thought Rua won

  • @raydewar4275
    @raydewar4275 Před 3 měsíci

    Shouldn’t be controversial at all. You’re bang on.

  • @lanceanthony198
    @lanceanthony198 Před 3 měsíci

    Good video

  • @twiztid571
    @twiztid571 Před 3 měsíci +1

    new nightmare fuel: Bulked up Drew Dober

  • @coreymcnulty5125
    @coreymcnulty5125 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Love the content Lucas but your Ilia O’malley video is a massive miss, if O’Malley cant beat merab he dosent deserve a champ champ fight

    • @sneak916
      @sneak916 Před 3 měsíci +8

      He mentioned that in the video

  • @saadalikhan3031
    @saadalikhan3031 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Why would you choose only one metric for goat status?

  • @randomites2212
    @randomites2212 Před 3 měsíci

    good vid

  • @davidbenatar6935
    @davidbenatar6935 Před 3 měsíci

    you're the GOAT of mma youtube

  • @MariUrameshi
    @MariUrameshi Před 3 měsíci

    If I remember correctly you didn’t even include flyweight and light heavyweight in your first video of this last year , but I like that you did this time even though it’s very unlikely

    • @ItsameAlex
      @ItsameAlex Před 3 měsíci

      dude(lucas) you're coping so much about sean o'malley jesus christ, you called joe pyfer salty? you're on top of the salt mine my dude!!!

  • @ronaldnegro11
    @ronaldnegro11 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You should do a video of worst/weakest champions in divisions history

  • @jackspedicey2747
    @jackspedicey2747 Před 2 měsíci

    Cant let another guys resume speak for your own legacy

  • @firecracker8856
    @firecracker8856 Před 3 měsíci

    Lucas suddenly became a judge and changed peoples records

  • @cgalindez06
    @cgalindez06 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Jose Aldo has 7 title Wins at Featherweight. He is still the GOAT

    • @timurjack8773
      @timurjack8773 Před 3 měsíci

      Last defense was after losing to Conor so Conor was still the champ he never won vs him.

  • @070Jun070
    @070Jun070 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lucas has become increasingly unhinged after the Volkanovski loss

  • @vaderentertainment8879
    @vaderentertainment8879 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Ryan hall a notable win for ilia too

  • @traivyn8152
    @traivyn8152 Před 3 měsíci

    Massively underrating the careers of Dan Henderson and Rich Franklin

  • @prxmk1948
    @prxmk1948 Před 3 měsíci +1

    how in the hell topuria lost round to mitchell? he dominated first 4 minutes of the round and then mitchell didn't do shit with the takedown
    also all the judges gave this round to topuria

  • @Spitfire77077
    @Spitfire77077 Před 3 měsíci

    Its always really tough when factoring beating champions and high competition like that, for perfect example: jon jones, he went on a killers run through past champions in his first title run, but those opponents needed to have the belt change every other title fight for there to be past champions to face, ya know? So GSP having no all time wins is understandable to a small degree, it wsnt his fault that the only person champion before him was Matt Hughes for the past 6 years, and BJ penn that one time. If those guys he faced changed title every fight and then he beat them, it would seem much better.