Synology DS723+ NAS Review - The Best 2-Bay NAS?
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Video Chapters
00:00 - The Start
00:19 - Understanding the Synology 2023 Series of Diskstation
01:10 - Synology DS720+ vs DS723+ NAS
02:32 - Unboxing the Synology DS723+ NAS
05:42 - Design of the Synology DS723+ NAS
15:55 - Ports and Connections of Synology DS723+ NAS
23:32 - Internal Hardware of the Synology DS723+ NAS
31:54 - Synology DSM Software on the DS723+ NAS
37:43 - I Hate Seagulls
41:30 - Synology DS723+ NAS when Idle
43:25 - Synology DS723+ NAS Noise when Active with 2x 16TB Enterprise HDDs
47:26 - Synology DS723+ NAS Review Conclusion and Verdict
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Hi Gang! Just a quick couple of notes for this video. I wanted to try out a different review style out (with sections separated with a flash screen) that would interrupt my dialogue at the exact moment I said the words (eg 'let's take a look at the..." BIG SPLASH SCREEN OF INTERNAL HARDWARE). I will continue with this for a few more reviews this week (likely presenting it better and funnier), but they seem to come across a little too abruptly in this edit. 2nd thing, the 10GbE testing of this device will be in a separate video (though it does mention 10GbE tests in text in the intro). I do show the adapter working/installed in the system+ DSM, but rest assured much more detailed 10GbE tests are coming very soon. Have a great week!
I think you should say the words you are transitioning to, and then do the screen/music.
Just seems like it will come off more "polished"
It would be cleaner if you said the word and then showed the splash screen. This way it kinda looks cut off.
These new transitions are not.. right. They don't mesh with the overall feel of the videos and the are an abrupt, disruptive element.
The ones you have that are overlays with the section "name" showing the video at the same time are much better.
Also the "hollywood" sound for the transitions in this video are also a bit over the top.
Don’t love the music of the breaks, I keep thinking I hit an Ad break
+1 for not interrupting your dialog... just say the words, then transition. Don't waste a lot of time transitioning... in fact, a chapter border with no splash screen would be perfect. I skip these whenever they happen.
You are missing an important point around 20:00 in the rant about the 10Gbe ports or the lack of these ports.
the CPU supports 2x 10Gbe out of the box, they have just decided not to use this and instead installed a separate 2x 1Gbe NIC so they can up sell you for their own 10Gbe NIC.
They literally made this product worse on purpose and paid extra for this as well and they need to be called out and shamed for this decision every single day until they change it.
Hey, thanks for your detailed video. I’m on a 220j and planning to upgrade to the 723+. One thing I’m missing in every review is the speed improvements from the UI. As I see you also tested the 220j. Could you tell me if there is a significant improvement for synology photos, drive… and for the mobile apps?
Ciao . Love all your videos , I’ve learnt a lot and I haven’t decided yet to buy a NAS but getting close to it. I can see you being a Windows fan, is the software the same on Macs? Ciao from Italy
Thanks for this video. I'm currently running a DS720+ mostly as a file server (but considering media server for music and film as current market trends for media lock in are making me unhappy) and really like it, but had been considering upgrading to the DS723+ as wanted to upgrade the networking to improve network file transfers. The proprietary networking adapter was already making me a little uncomfortable due to availability and price fluctuations, but mainly just as it is proprietary so less choice in the future. I hadn't realised about the single USB port and the lack of integrated graphics. A single usb is a complete deal breaker for me. I always use a UPS which uses one usb port, and I run regular local USB disk backups to ensure i have backup resiliency across cloud (I use Synologys own C2 backup and really rate it) and a local copy using monthly disk rotation. If you care about your data and backup plus restore, you need more than cloud! I've been a Synology customer for over 10 years and am never disappointed until now. This is starting to feel like a company that are making specification decisions based on markets and sales, rather than what customers actually need, or want.
The QNAP QNA-UC5G1T 5Gbe is supposed to work according to nascompares. Then you won't need a new machine and all the hastle of moving your stuff over cause CPU you got can push most of the 5Gbe, it also works at 2.5Gbe and Zyxel makes a very cheap 2.5Gbe switch. Maybe a usb 3 hub will work to hook it all up?
Can you not plug a USB hub into these boxes? Also, I believe every device on that network branch must be 10GB in order to have it work at the highest speed... one single thing will slow the whole thing down.
Thks & the sea-gull was nodding its head at you ;)
It seems synology's new NASes ain't fun for home & family anymore (ex: the DS?20+ NASes are much better for home & family). Also to upgrade their new Pro-sumer DS?23+ NASes cost an arm&leg. Maybe a DS223+ might resolve all these short-comings (?fingers-crossed?).
We operate a professional full-scale tech business and have my personal office in my home. We have dedicated NAS units at two separate locations for business use and an additional NAS for Plex to meet family member storage and backup tasks in the house.
I can state that we are no longer a Synology client. We are in the process of moving all our current and future business over to QNAP !!!!
QNAP provides significantly better hardware for less $$$ than Synology. Their software meets our current needs and keeps getting better with time! So to sum it all up, QNAP provides far better value for less money.
Both of the Synology DS-918+ units failed within a month of the manufacturer's warranty ending. Synology was contacted and stated that the only option now is to purchase new equipment. No recommendations or discounts were provided ... Great customer service!
Synology appears more interested in profits than performance and reliability, IMHO.
The DS 723+ has no embedded graphics in the CPU, insufficient USB ports, No 2.5 GB LAN ports, only 2GB RAM and a very high price point! I have one word to summarize all of this: "Ridiculous!"
Synology is a brand we will never look at or consider again. I am betting that we are not the only significantly disappointed former Synology client! Time will tell. Cheers to all!
Glad I bought the DS720+ for $280. I have a felling that Synology might come out with a specific media server model with an Intel chip specifically for those Plex users.
Are you planning a comparison with the QNAP TS-264? Is it really worth a comparison? For the money I'll get the QNAP TS-264 instead...hands down.
Hello, I am following your channel and I like it very much. I am faced with the dilemma of buying a ds723+, please tell me if it is possible to use HDD 3.5 drives with a speed of 7200 and which company would you recommend Seagate WD or Toshiba, because according to synology's compatibility, their drives have 7200. I need 4 Tb what would you recommend? Another request for Ram memory, I watched your tests for ds923+, please tell me if the ds723+ will suit the best performance, I need two 16gb. Many thanks in advance for all your tips.
I'm nearing the time I allow myself to replace my 718+. However given the drawbacks of the CPU and the lack of USB ports (I have a printer & backup USB drive connected) I might skip this one. Or does it support USB hubs? On the other hand it seems Synology is supporting older hardware a bit longer in terms of DSM updates, so I might stick to my 718+ a bit longer.
I am looking for my first home NAS set up....back up and reduction of pics, files and video from devices increasing memory....I'm not a home business, just a techy guy in an evolving market looking to do it for himself on a budget. I think this is the way to go when im not a pro/small business.
muy buena información. gracias y saludos desde Perú
De nada y gracias por ver mi video. ¡Ten una buena semana!
Thanks for this video!
A question: Can I have 2 DS723+, one at home and the other at work, using the same hard drives? I would take them with me, just to work local. Is it possible? Like plug and play?
You mentioned Synology only put a single USB port on the DS723+. Well another CZcams video I posted a whine that I couldn't plug in all my cool USB gadgets all at the same time on a DS723+ (ex: USB drive, UPS, printer, etc). Fortunately It would appear I was wrong :)
"Tom B Yes, my UPS and an external drive are both connected to the hub. The Synology recognizes both as if connected directly, and in fact, the UPS is set up as a UPS server to my DS220+."
I'm interested in your thoughts on the overall reliability of a single 4-bay NAS unit versus two 2-bay NAS units each synced to each other to provide full backups even if one 2-bay unit failed you have four potential backups of your data and two fully independent NAS units. I have been using this setup for a number of years as my total storage volume is not great but the I have a need for maximum reliability of data storage. One NAS unit is also mirrored to Microsoft One-Drive which of course is off-site. If with time I need to increase storage I simply increase the size of the four hard drives. Any thoughts?
I bought a 718+ years ago based on your review. I use it predominantly for photo and home video storage. Then I use DS video on my tv to stream. I want to have a dual drive redundancy. I am torn between getting a 517 expansion unit or a 920+, 923+. What can you recommend for my scenario?
Heat is probably why Asus put their M.2 drives on a riser card on the TOP of their Asustor NAS devices instead of the bottom like Synology. Of course you have to painstakenly remove the entire case cover from the Asustor to get to them whereas the Synology makes it a lot easier to get to them. And Asus doesn't do vendor lock-in with M.2 drives - they have a list of approved off-the-shelf drives you can select from and source from anywhere you like.
Right now the only issue with my Asustor4 running 32GB RAM and dual 1TB M.2 drives and 4x 4TB drives (two different RAID1 volumes) is that you can't really run a lot of Docker containers on it or Docker will crash. I've even hand-upgraded Docker and Portainer on it to the very latest versions from the developers of those two software products and it will still crash out eventually. So I've reduced the number of containers I run on it and made sure I put memory limits on each container and so far so good.
thanks for the video , will watch later
Is it hard-locked that you *have* to use Synology's DDR4, or will other ECC SODIMMs work?
I just purchased a 723+ and a pair of 12TB drives. With the processor in mind, did I make a mistake? What would you purchase instead, staying in the Synology family, DSM is the requirement. I am not going to use Plex ever, It will be mostly used for personal cloud and Synology Photos for local management of my family's photos' and videos. Would a 420+ with 4 4TB drives suit me? I plan on having this 5-8 years or more. IT comes in cheaper. But I'm staying in the $800 range.
Hello can I ask for your honest opinion about one thing in particular in regard to DS723+?
I read many opinions online that some users face very slow data transfer from their PCs to NAS storage device or even NAS transfer to another NAS.
Could you please comment on this as you used the server?
I read that the DS723+ is not supporting WD RED PRO hard drive.
Can it be the case?
I was decided with DS723+ but if it has bottleneck data transfer I would really like to know about before buying and facing technical issues.
Just to recap I read about 4 MB file transfered for 6 minutes or 1,5 GB transfered 3,5 hour.
Have a great day
Look forward to hear from you
Do you think that using one of the nvme slots to run a nvme to mini pci 2.5Gbe adaptor would work?
I think I know where Synology's head is at with this one - FAST FILE SERVING OVER A NETWORK ONLY.
That explains the lack of USB ports, lack of internal GPU, proprietary 10Gbit adapter, RAM, etc.
Big thanks for your work.
I have the opportunity to find a DS1522+ with 8go ram at 614 euros. Is it a good deal compared to a 923+ or even the 723+ ? The DS1621+ is at 939 euros with a 4 cores but 4go ram.
I have a DS211J, this box is still running well since 12 years...
But the speed of copying and reading drives me crazy today. I use it mainly to archive my video and photo works.
I also have a Promise Pegasus 32 R6 with 24To. It's not really the same use of the NAS but the speed to work on my videos and photos is crazy but the communication between it and the NAS... hell to copy my work on it or dowload an archive from my NAS...
I think that’s a decent value. The DS1522+ is $699.99 in the US. But that’s overkill for me, I don’t need 5 bays, so I went with the DS923+ instead and just add a 4gb ram for just 13 bucks.
I can't understand why they still haven't added the 1522 to the list of nas supporting the storage pool with m.2 ssds
What about putting 50 000 pdf files in this NAS, does it has a file indexing service which will go beyond the file name and also be able to index and search inside pdfs (for digitalzed text) ? In the use case of a network drive, will the client have to do that indexing, if yes, how many weeks will that take?
What is the best 2 bay nas that has 4k transcoding, upscalable and raid 1 or higher for home use. I download movies from the internet and need storage for my movies
What would be your advice for people with an older DS7xxx+ or DS9xxx+ who use Plex media server and rely on hardware transcoding?
I just bought a DS720+ and it does fine with Plex. It can transcode a 4k movie without issue. The questions is really how many streams you need transcoded at the same time.
Did you check whats the read and write speed of hdd 7200rpm over 10gbe ⁶ ?
Hi
can I use two 14tb Wd red nas drives for this synology nas model?
Honestly I just need a NAS to host plex and set a download station for a private cloud but this looks lackluster and the next upgrade for a 4 bay is way too expensive for what it offers considering proprietary network adapter and forcing to buy their nvme drives.
Synology is becoming the King Gillette of NAS except he sold his razor holders cheaply. Thinking about the Nvme drives, well a heatsink would do no good, may for the first 5 minutes take the heat out but after that the heatsink wouldnt have airflow to cool it and the drive would be hot .
Anyway, a very decent review and I am just waiting for the next Synology NAS that requires Synology Hard drives
Let say i running small business home, with 6 surveillance 12mb 360 cameras, dont you think 1gb eternal port is enough?
Is it 18 TB Per bay or 18 TB as in 9+9TB?
: So like, can you solder off the 2 1GbE ports and put 2.5s on?
Was waiting for this device to come out so that I can get it but I am disappointed of the limitations no 2.5+ GB ports no USB at the back which is necessary for me to attach to ups I guess I will stick with 720+ although I needed the ability to upgrade the ram and extra power the CPU delivers :/
Hi
Can I put the Red pro WD 16to in the Ds 723?
Thx a lot
i was just about to get 723+ but I guess 720+ is better option for me ..
Hello I have never used a NAS before nore have any server knowledge, but I do graphics with adobe illustrator or photoshop and some 3d modeling and was looking for a way to store my files easier. I currently use Dropbox but as you can guess thats slow and costs monthly, would a NAS be a easy and good alternative to that? I was looking at this model on amazon and came to this video to check it out but still wanted others opinions.
Was thinking of using this and putting 2 Western Digital 18TB WD Red Pro NAS HDDs in it.
Want to point out lots of storage b/c I have 3 other ppl in my house that could use some storage. Plus I have a habit of storing EVERYTHING as a backup so I legit already have like 4+ tbs of stuff I need to back up already on my current pc plus ill migrate my other 3 tbs on storage in 0other services like dropbox and onedrive onto it.
Maybe someone can point out a better alternative for what I need btw.
How can you conclude this is the best 2 bay? I guess for a business maybe. You point to things most people don't care about: better network upgradability. Most people don't have 10gbe though. At least not where i live. Plus it's an option, not part of the device. The option to upgrade. I'm not sure i'd consider that more valuable than transcoding ability out the gate. Better memory? Fine but that doesn't improve video playback.This can't be recommend to most people who are not a business.
In India it's cost around USD 610 which is ridiculous . I hope synology looks this comment and provide better pricing thru retailers
Thanks for this great video. Unfortunately the synology 23 line up is so disappointing. I was planning to upgrade my whole IT to 10gbe including my disk station upgrade. With proprietary memory…disks…10gbe add on costs. It has become a no-brainer … synology is off the shopping list. It’s QNAP or even a DYI freenas.
Ordinary memory and WD Red drives work fine, just get a one off warning. DS7.1 is so good it's worth the premium and rumors asre 7.2 will allow nvme storage pools with non synology nvme but even if they don't you can use any NVME as cache. The 10Gbe adaptor isn't all that pricy.
I'd like to see a faceoff with the 720 on plex transcoding...
Added this to my to-do list, but in the meantime I would recommend watching my DS920+ vs DS1522+ Plex Comparison video. They have the same general CPU+Memory+network setup and its done only using 4K media. You can find it here - czcams.com/video/edTKhqAZ6_c/video.html
It’s simple. The newer ones have no hardware transcoding capabilities. So the older is flatout better.
@@marcofontinha6296 Which is a shame. Most companies take a step forward when releasing new products.
@@marcofontinha6296 not true. The DS920+ weak gpu can’t even transcode as fast as DS923+ raw cpu power. Not that I need transcoding anyway because all my devices support direct play.
@@tama47_ If you own a plex subscription, then you can do hardware transcoding. Which the ds920+ which is based off a modern intel chip with QuickSync (in other words the holy grail for plex transcoding if you don’t want a dedicated gpu). So yeah. The ds920+ can handle probably 5-10 1080p transcodes and 2 to 3 4k ones if hardware transcoding. None of them can handle above 1080p if Software transcoding. And the ds923+ cant do hardware transcoding at all because amd doesnt add that same media encoding capabilities as intel does. Which is what we were speaking about. **hardware** transcoding.
Please dont correct other people if you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Synology's pricing is getting somewhat ludicrous. Assuming this goes for the cheapest price I can find the DS720+ for right now, and populating it with the 10GbE adapter, the maximum Synology RAM along with the smallest capacity Synology m.2 drives and HDDs to avoid all of those compatibility warnings and you're spending £1,949.91 😳
Let me get this straight, you are bothered about a warning message that comes up once when you set the system up and never see again ?
Can you connect a USB 3.0 hub to the front USB port?
I'm interested in this as well - but I'd definitely make sure it's a powered hub if you try it.
DS718+ three USB ports. DS720+ two USB ports. DS723+ one USB ports. DS72x+ zero USB ports? Even if I bought DS723+ how I backup data files for external HDD when UPS plugged into one USB port? Joke?
Ryzen says it all, why upgrade to an AMD with no video capability? Nope
No rear usb! they are having a laugh..
I was surprised. This is an incredibly small gripe on my part, but noticeable to those that need it!
How hard is it to simply bring out a new version with 10gbe and a processor that can do the jobs that people want?? 2023 and still waiting, this company does not understand what their customers want.
They will soon, trust me!
@@jasperverkroost Lets hope.
@@Reprint001 Yes.
No 2.5 gbe and no rear usb.. not buying. Not spending another $200+ for a Synology proprietary 10gbe card to get full speed from a single hard disk and clear the transfer bottleneck on a brand new system.. this is a poor system for the price!
Can’t u just aggregate 2 1gb ethernets?
@@amandao6686 if the router supports link agrregation, you can combine to get 2gbps, but a lot of routers do not support it. The TP-Link mesh systems don't support link aggregation, but the xe75pro has 2.5gbe
@@yacko00 then change the route and use a Mikrotik that will allow you link aggregation
Wow. i've waited more than a year and Synolygy released a downgrade from a Plex perspective which 99% the reason i want to buy a NAS. So i guess either the 720+ which is fricken old. So maybe i need to look at qnap and others. honestly i don't have and am not getting 10gbe so not a big deal in this consumer space. They shit the bed on the poor plex and it's by far the only reason i'd be getting this. As a home user this is a massive downgrade to me.
Synology is losing its way with its primary consumers.
This NAS has too many ‘say what’ issues and restrictions for the price versus value considerations for users to buy.
There are much better options out there.
Synology should just sell their DSM and do away with the NAS hardware, you're not getting a lot for the hardware.
too expensive and network connect is STILL 1Gbps ... go buy another nas.
Synology is trash
I can only surmise that their strategy is to sell less and make more. They seemed to find the lowest cost components to provide the absolute maximum writeup, lock you into the platform, and milk every last ounce from the their low end stuff. In one sense it is brilliant, typically you make the most of the middle to high end stuff. I could argue they make more on this low end stuff, when you add 10 gbe, 8 gb memory, and their m2.nvme you just paid a real good penny! Personally, I'm not a fan... so I'm rocking with my 453E and enjoying life, I give QNAP credit the 453E for the price is really hard to beat, they burned the midnight oil to think this one out. Reddit and facebook, etc. are pretty ticked off, lots of people frustrated, and they are talking like they have left or will leave the brand, great sales opportunity for their competitors... Time will tell if the gamble Synology took pays off, even if they come back promising xyz, they missed a huge opportunity as some will never come back to the brand, they probably considered this and are looking for the loyal customers to continue to invest in them to hit their sales goals, when everyone has to give them at least $150 USD for decent nic speeds out of the gate, maybe they do make more money in the end... If you think about it you will spend the money to add nvme, memory, and 10 gb... You can go buy a QNAP with a real pentium processor and be in an entirely new league, crazy just crazy.