Turandot Final Scene (Jonas Kaufmann and Asmik Grigorian)

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  • Jonas Kaufmann (Calaf) and Asmik Grigorian (Turandot) perform in Claus Guth's production of Turandot at the Wiener Staatsoper, conducted by Marco Armiliato.
    December 2023
    Filmed by ORF
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Komentáře • 139

  • @haraldgeiger5936
    @haraldgeiger5936 Před měsícem +10

    Asmik is a incredible!

  • @natalijaargenta959
    @natalijaargenta959 Před 3 měsíci +20

    I saw Asmik Grigorian sing the role in Palermo where they set the opera in the space age.....it was truly hideous staging except for her magnificent performance. This set is equally grotesque in a different way. I hate these modern avant-garde directors ruining the beauty by their art gallery staging. I want to see epic sets as well as hear the singers. Such a tragedy.

    • @haraldgeiger5936
      @haraldgeiger5936 Před měsícem +2

      Could not agree more.

    • @pitrescatorce16
      @pitrescatorce16 Před měsícem +1

      Lots of us are the same opinion.

    • @paoladatodi8626
      @paoladatodi8626 Před 29 dny

      @@pitrescatorce16 grottesco per esempio con quei pupazzi, ma la recitazione, la regia mimica mi pare efficace. E'in chiave psicanalitica, Vienna la patria di Freud...i gesti di lei sono quelli di chi pian piano si libera dall'inibizione. Magari l'ultimissima scena non convince: hanno fretta, più lei (una volta disinibita...) che lui di ehm ehm..., senza tante cerimonie? o addirittura rinunciano al potere e vanno a vivere da persone comuni (ciò che darebbe luogo a nuovi problemi di Stato...)?

    • @michaelacuna7252
      @michaelacuna7252 Před 19 dny

      I agree but I saw Netbreko at the Statsoper lin a space production. She was fine but her costumes worked against her. Dumb.

    • @user-vu3qv1wq7q
      @user-vu3qv1wq7q Před 12 dny +1

      I went to the Staatsoper last night & found the production convincing & Grigorian was magnificent - the audience was delighted.

  • @aliciasarramida
    @aliciasarramida Před 4 měsíci +20

    Wonderful!!! thank you for sharing ♥

  • @eugeniocattaneo2555
    @eugeniocattaneo2555 Před 4 měsíci +16

    Ascoltiamo con gli occhi chiusi...

  • @user-gl3zk1dd3z
    @user-gl3zk1dd3z Před 3 měsíci +8

    Thank you very much for sharing. I saw this twice at our beloved Staatsoper. She knocked it out of the park, if you like her. Yes, the staging and his form, but I really enjoyed it. And nice to see here. Thank you again.

  • @etienneprinsloo6799
    @etienneprinsloo6799 Před 4 měsíci +15

    We were there, it was fantastic, enjoyed every second of the performance.

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 Před 23 dny +1

    Astonishing duet !

  • @foley325405
    @foley325405 Před 5 dny

    I didn't know Ping, Pang and Pung had a cousin named Pong. Nice for him to drop in for the final scene.

  • @carinfoce9641
    @carinfoce9641 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Most enjoyable! Thanks!

  • @user-ec2wi8qd3s
    @user-ec2wi8qd3s Před 2 měsíci +7

    I do not agree. Jonas is still one of the best. He has some better days. Nothing to do with his age...he has health problems and had to cancel many concerts...

    • @evakiseleva8570
      @evakiseleva8570 Před měsícem

      !!!

    • @evakiseleva8570
      @evakiseleva8570 Před měsícem +2

      Thank you for this opinion! Totally agree! The is one of the most fantastic timbres ever and tecnically very equipped but you need to catch him in his healthy days

  • @tovehansen6613
    @tovehansen6613 Před 11 dny

    THATS A GREAT SCENE FRom TURANDOT SI WUDERFULL TENOR VOICE WOW ❤🙏🏻regard from DANMARK 🇩🇰

  • @XPRT10R
    @XPRT10R Před 4 měsíci +22

    It's quite impressive the way he manages to sound so throaty and so nasal at the same time.

    • @tg92277
      @tg92277 Před 4 měsíci

      Both qualities fall under the same heading of "hardness", as Shakespeare would put it. It's pretty common to hear one accompanied by the other

    • @jefolson6989
      @jefolson6989 Před měsícem

      Haha, he could do with some forward placement, mask vibrations, whatever to brighten his voice and produce squillo. It seems to me his technique would be damaging and unsustainable. Muscular and confined to the mechanism plus some manufactured chest resonance. I have to commend him. Singing that way would quickly make hamburger out of most tenors.

  • @09lohengrin
    @09lohengrin Před 4 měsíci +14

    Impressive!

  • @brunopicaude3092
    @brunopicaude3092 Před 4 měsíci +38

    Encore une scénographie qui va s'ajouter à la liste des horreurs qui ne cesse plus de s'allonger.

    • @marioarkus6930
      @marioarkus6930 Před 4 měsíci +5

      La scénographie et toute la conception scénique.

    • @AndreEssen
      @AndreEssen Před 4 měsíci

      @@marioarkus6930 ich kann noch die Inszenierung von Kosky in Amsterdam hinzufügen, wo ich mich wirklich geärgter habe, soviel Geld ausgegeben zu haben. Die Komplette Bühne war nur nach vorne nicht abgeschlossen, dementsprechend laut war es bei den Chören!
      Je peux aussi ajouter la production de Kosky à Amsterdam, où j'étais vraiment ennuyé d'avoir dépensé autant d'argent. La scène entière n'était pas fermée au public, donc les chœurs étaient bruyants !

  • @rosy3385
    @rosy3385 Před 4 měsíci +18

    Les voix sont belles évidemment mais quelle mise en scène minable !!! ça ne fait pas rêver une Turandot comme celle-ci dans une telle mise en scène !

    • @Culture_maven
      @Culture_maven Před 4 měsíci +5

      I was dubious and saw it live and it worked. Whole thing was fabulous.

    • @PascalBrissaud
      @PascalBrissaud Před 21 dnem

      Turandot n’a rien qui doive faire “rêver”. Cette mise en scène, d’une rare profondeur psychologique, est aussi intelligente que sensible et cohérente.

  • @SilfredoSerrano
    @SilfredoSerrano Před 4 měsíci +16

    So, this is the original Alfano ending before it was sliced up.

    • @Yves_Ka
      @Yves_Ka Před 4 měsíci +1

      yes - however there are small omissions- At the end Turandot and Calaf should sing "Ertenita". There is a complete version here on YT: czcams.com/video/Q09_thEg6AA/video.htmlsi=tii9gjlD_uPNyGQ8

    • @gonzalocuadra8657
      @gonzalocuadra8657 Před 4 měsíci +1

      No, this is not the final escene by Alfano.

    • @Yves_Ka
      @Yves_Ka Před 4 měsíci

      @@gonzalocuadra8657 OK Wiseguy - so who do you think wrote the music???

    • @oscarjupither2294
      @oscarjupither2294 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@gonzalocuadra8657 Yes, it is the one and only original Alfano ending!

  • @SilfredoSerrano
    @SilfredoSerrano Před 4 měsíci +5

    Wait, which version of the finale is this? This doesn't sound like the standard. She's singing different notes...

    • @Yves_Ka
      @Yves_Ka Před 4 měsíci +9

      This is the original Alfano ending and not the Toscaninni edited version you most pobably know

    • @furrybear57
      @furrybear57 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Yves_Ka Call them Alfano I and Alfano II.....and I'll keep Alfano II

  • @AnaLuiza-rl9ee
    @AnaLuiza-rl9ee Před 10 dny

    Público é igrato ao criticar Jonas..
    Ele já nos deu muito de si nos palcos...sem ele a ópera atual não tem sentido...

  • @ilyeserzsebet2993
    @ilyeserzsebet2993 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Egyszerűen gyönyörű! Megható! Köszönöm!

  • @Olgaalwina
    @Olgaalwina Před 4 měsíci +6

    einfach enorme ....!

  • @filosoforvgsapereaude5020
    @filosoforvgsapereaude5020 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Esta ópera de Puccini pudo ser la mejor pero no la terminó. Gran obra

  • @alessandrolombardi5339
    @alessandrolombardi5339 Před 3 měsíci +7

    ... and finally, after 100 years, the last enigma of Turandot has been solved ... finally well done!😅

    • @DucDeE
      @DucDeE Před 3 měsíci +1

      Do you mean the riddle of this cryptic production? Please tell me because I just can't solve it 😅

  • @LubovKaretnikova
    @LubovKaretnikova Před 2 měsíci +4

    What a wonder!🎉❤ bravi!!!

  • @Postinaway
    @Postinaway Před 2 dny

    Y'all haters are full of it! This is fantastic! ❤

  • @karilamminpaa8987
    @karilamminpaa8987 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Unique in every way . Gratitudine !

  • @bodiloto
    @bodiloto Před 2 měsíci +6

    Due voci poco adatte a questo repertorio, purtroppo.
    il vecchio

  • @vitanaumaviciene3175
    @vitanaumaviciene3175 Před měsícem

    Labai nedėkinga yra Turandot bet kokiai solistei. Sunki tokia neaiškios pikčiurnos rolė, o ir partitūra tik balso drąskymas. Asmik atliko nuostabiai ir tarsi pateisino Turandot tokį šaltumą ir piktumą.
    Gaila, bet pasidžiaugti operos vizualu niekaip nepavyko.

  • @sumiokuge
    @sumiokuge Před 3 měsíci

    More dramatic, less operatic. I don't know whether I am excited at it or I am enjoying it, though I am satisfied. This stage may be something similar to the New Bayreuth of 1950s.

  • @robertvandertoorn3306
    @robertvandertoorn3306 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Enczenierung sieht aus ob man in Nord Korea ist

  • @federicofielitz7673
    @federicofielitz7673 Před 4 měsíci +5

    No conocía a Asmik Grigorian. Me encantó el el rol de Turandot y Jonas también.

  • @user-pw7tn6js1x
    @user-pw7tn6js1x Před 4 měsíci +10

    Театр оперный должен не только радовать слух, заставлять переживать сюжет, но и давать определенные эмоции визуальные. В данном случае визуальные эмоции отрицательные, что накладывается и на восприятие всего остального действа. Очень жаль, что постановка вне времени, отсутствие соответствующих декораций и костюмов стали повсеместны в оперных театрах, лишая возможности погрузиться в определенную эпоху , связанную с сюжетом оперы. Этот спектакль именно такой и его не спасают даже знаменитые певцы.

  • @fauredaniel57
    @fauredaniel57 Před 3 měsíci +1

    la hicieon con el mismo decorado de West Side Story, para ahorrar unos pesitos

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 Před 23 dny

    6:44

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 Před 23 dny

    8:34

  • @delrimario
    @delrimario Před 4 měsíci +7

    Muy buenos cantantes. La produccion y la Regie una mierda.

  • @lillacacchione2429
    @lillacacchione2429 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Bravissimi 👏👏👏

  • @ibnhazm
    @ibnhazm Před 4 měsíci +19

    Creo que la pena de muerte debería establecerse temporalmente para algunos directores de escena.

    • @aci1970
      @aci1970 Před 4 měsíci

      Y yo creo que la pena de muerte es por los comentarios exagerados en CZcams. Como la hacemos?
      *Algunos commentan para no hacer otra cosa. Pena de muerte? En serio? Te parece que es algo apropiado de bromear?

    • @dianadainotto7817
      @dianadainotto7817 Před 3 měsíci

      @@aci1970es en sentido figurado ☺

    • @aci1970
      @aci1970 Před 3 měsíci

      @@dianadainotto7817 Como? No es en serio? Y yo que creía...🙄

    • @minodoraroman8864
      @minodoraroman8864 Před 2 měsíci

      😂😂😂bravissimo.

  • @dgmelvin
    @dgmelvin Před 4 měsíci +5

    Great singing and acting. I do hope that the odd stage design made more sense when seen in total. I found it quite distracting coming in at the end. But, what voices!

    • @nikashman5775
      @nikashman5775 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I was amazing. The sets and costumes gave the sense of an oppressive regime, created by Turandot who was then trapped in it. Kaufmann's not the greatest actor, but I adore him. Grigorian was spectacular. And the score, just when you think it's getting a bit cacophonous you find tears pricking your eyes.

  • @micky4fun
    @micky4fun Před měsícem +1

    Being a progressive thinking individual, I find this to be an interesting re-interpretation of the famous opera. But, sorry, but I think I will stick to the more traditional versions of Turandot. P.S.: I am a great Jonas Kaufmann fan.

  • @gerontius3
    @gerontius3 Před 4 měsíci +12

    This is pretty wonderful. Asmik's acting is absolutely Oscar worthy (as usual). Kaufmann is also quite good though of course I imagine this with Asmik and Franco Corelli...................

  • @kurtgarmaker3719
    @kurtgarmaker3719 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Both are very good. But they should not be dinging this opera.. it tears the throat out. Callas sang this role often in the beginning and she did not like it and hoped that it would not ruin her voice . That's a big red stop sign . As a matter of fact tell me one Puccini opera ( and God knows I love him) that is good for your voice .

    • @music0326
      @music0326 Před 3 měsíci

      My favourite, Manon Lescaut :)

  • @breizhmabroy
    @breizhmabroy Před 4 měsíci +2

    c pénible lui vraiment, tant à écouter que regarder. elle magnifique, effortless

    • @chantalbeckmann8022
      @chantalbeckmann8022 Před 4 měsíci

      ce n' est pas un rôle pour lui....il faut réécouter P. Domingo et dans une mise en scène autrement plus enthousiasmante ( au Met )

  • @user-lk1zn5cm4z
    @user-lk1zn5cm4z Před 4 měsíci +4

    this is NOT Turandot.

  • @user-ec2wi8qd3s
    @user-ec2wi8qd3s Před 2 měsíci +3

    She does not have the voice of a "principessa di gelo"...

  • @JamesPortoraro
    @JamesPortoraro Před 3 měsíci +1

    I forgot to say "cheap"

  • @elizabethwallace7495
    @elizabethwallace7495 Před 25 dny

    Beautiful singing--weirdest stage production every imagined1

  • @CarlosDIASPRO
    @CarlosDIASPRO Před 4 měsíci +7

    Si no fuera por la música ésta opera hubiera fracasado,no entiendo quién es el ignorante que hizo ésta puesta,creo que si hubiera estado en el teatro me levanto y pido me devuelvan el importe de mi ticket, debería haber pena de muerte para los directores de escena, escenógrafo incluido.

  • @orientaldagger6920
    @orientaldagger6920 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The music is terrible? This is Puccini? Sounds like Alban Berg.

    • @masonevans779
      @masonevans779 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Funny you mention that… Puccini was slightly influenced by the second Vienense school, which Berg was part of. You can hear this influence during the first act of the opera with the use of atonality during the scene where all the spirits of the dead princes are trying to warn Calaf. Moreover, Turandot was premiered in 1924, around the same time as Wozzeck. With that being said, this is an edited version of the original Alfano ending (because Puccini died before finishing the score as I am sure you know) which is very theatrical compared to later Toscanini approved version.

    • @orientaldagger6920
      @orientaldagger6920 Před 3 měsíci

      @@masonevans779 I suppose when you are dead no one can stop some other hack from finishing your work. It just sounds weird and doesn't follow Puccini's music. You go from Nessun Dorma to this? Come on.

  • @josecarrerastema8654
    @josecarrerastema8654 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Che regia orribile,ma perché?

  • @vickiw3335
    @vickiw3335 Před 3 měsíci +7

    What a hideous production. I love that Asmik is doing Butterfly but I think Turandot is not the right choice for her yet. She needs to protect her incredible gift. She is already adding heavier roles too soon IMHO. She is a great artist!!

  • @art7695
    @art7695 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Kaufmann is a great singer in german repertoire but in italian operas is voice doesn't match similar results. Grigorian is not Turandot (Caballé too has sung Turandot and my comment at that time was the same) but is one of the few great singers . Let's hope she doesn't destroy her voice with wrong repertoire. Grigorian, in any case, much better than Kaufmann .

  • @javierrosell7782
    @javierrosell7782 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Bien Kauffman siempre tuvo problemas técnicos con su voz pero el público oyente no apreciaba esos errores que con el tiempo le traerían problemas con su voz y en esta ópera se le nota forzado y cansado y pierde la línea melódica de esta ópera y la soprano ni que hablar para esta obra la soprano tiene que tener un poco de fuerza y color de mezzosoprano pero hasta el coro se siente desgastado esta ópera bien conocida por su famosa aria Nessun Dorma es muy fuerte esta presentación no cubren buenos comentarios una puesta en escena que es una falta de respeto a los que aprecian el arte de la lírica mis respetos a sus comentarios esta es mi opinión pero no supera a la versión de Corelli y la Nilsson

  • @elisaalvarezbeca1549
    @elisaalvarezbeca1549 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Awful production😢 good singers ,not so good for Jonas this Calaf. ❤

  • @t.alajosvarga6175
    @t.alajosvarga6175 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Blödsinn!!

  • @lz43p15
    @lz43p15 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Corelli Nilson per ora non raggiungibili specie x Kaufmann

  • @coragazmen7073
    @coragazmen7073 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Terrible production,how could they modernize a beautiful opera like this,if it is not Jonas singing,it would be a flop,even Jonas looks like he is bewildered and asmik can sing but her acting is so so.I was thinking going to see it in June but coming from Canada would not be worth it.sorry I was waiting for Jonas as calaf but this production doesn’t suit him at all. 13:18

  • @pitrescatorce16
    @pitrescatorce16 Před měsícem +1

    Puccini would be offended by such an awful setting!

  • @josepacifico-mc9pr
    @josepacifico-mc9pr Před 4 měsíci +2

    DIOS MIO, PERO QUE ESPANTO!!!!!, empezando por los "" cantantes TERROFICAMENTE ESPANTOSOS, y lo demás, bueno, SIN PALABRAS!!!!!....

  • @Shahrdad
    @Shahrdad Před 3 měsíci

    I like her, but he just bellows.

  • @ESilva-qv1uv
    @ESilva-qv1uv Před 4 měsíci +11

    Awful production and singers far from their fach. Pity Asmin has decided to sing Turandot. Not for her. Jonas is throaty, with that voce ingolata. Not good, sorry to say that. I love both singers, though.

  • @GarethRickards
    @GarethRickards Před 3 měsíci +6

    Horrible production, a soprano who should have been singing Liu, and a woeful Kaufmann, far past his sell-by date.

    • @enricoluccarini3626
      @enricoluccarini3626 Před 2 měsíci

      The Liu was Alagna's pretty little Russian wife.

    • @barbarachmielewska3233
      @barbarachmielewska3233 Před 2 měsíci

      @@enricoluccarini3626 Aleksandra Kurzak is POLISH, not Russian!!!

    • @MsCollin11
      @MsCollin11 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@barbarachmielewska3233 she is not too good either.......

  • @user-qv6sg6ku5v
    @user-qv6sg6ku5v Před 4 měsíci +40

    Pressed and strangled voice. Just a constant squeeze. If Jonas Kaufmann had made his debut in Turandot earlier, he would have been a wonderful Calaf. Now he is too old for this role because his voice no longer has the clarity and brilliance it once did. What a pity !

    • @marinacaracciolo5940
      @marinacaracciolo5940 Před 4 měsíci +12

      Eppure ha avuto un successo straordinario, un motivo ci sarà... Il suo è un Calaf maturo, la sua voce è bronzea, ancora e sempre mirabile. La sua resta una eccellente prestazione e interpretazione.

    • @minodoraroman8864
      @minodoraroman8864 Před 4 měsíci

      Il publicco e spesso snob.

    • @ghislaineaerts2330
      @ghislaineaerts2330 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Subliem

    • @ghislaineaerts2330
      @ghislaineaerts2330 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Sublime vertolking Proficiat

    • @meisterwue
      @meisterwue Před 4 měsíci +11

      You are right about Mr Kaufmann.....more than right. And Mrs Grigorian is no real principessa di morte

  • @JamesPortoraro
    @JamesPortoraro Před 3 měsíci +8

    Here we go with the stupid sets and idiotic costumes. Poor Puccini. Total lack of respect. Apparently designing awful "modern" sets guarantees success. Shame on Vienna

  • @thomasdahlen8533
    @thomasdahlen8533 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Terrible production and bad singers , Kaufmann and Grigorian are overestimated singes in these roles.Marton , Carreras and Riciarelli with Maazel were lovely to hear and see.Corelli and Nilsson , superstars between 1959 to 1973 are still best of singers in Turandot.This is Scheisse as they say i german.Who pays a lot of money for this ?

    • @ESilva-qv1uv
      @ESilva-qv1uv Před 4 měsíci +2

      You are so right. I've made a similar comment.

    • @aci1970
      @aci1970 Před 4 měsíci +2

      People who are not stuck in 20th century?

    • @kurtgarmaker3719
      @kurtgarmaker3719 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Marton burned her voice out with this role. She did not have a good high C after this opera . So don't offer her up as a better singer than this singer in this video.

  • @Porn05Mouth
    @Porn05Mouth Před 4 měsíci +5

    It absolutely SUCKS that Asmik and Jonas didn’t sing the descant at the end for the broadcast. I saw them live on 22 December where they DID sing it (as verified by house recording), and I nearly fell out of my seat because it was so thrilling. Was monumentally bummed to watch the broadcast only for them to stop singing completely after her “Il suo nome è amore.” At least audio exists I guess. Jonas was in much better voice on 22 December than on 16 December when this was broadcast, apparently.
    Asmik is a triumph in this role. Her acting is incomparable to any Turandot I’ve ever seen. Glad there’s a video (even if it’s not perfect).

  • @wuaaron808
    @wuaaron808 Před měsícem +1

    barely adequate for Liu.

  • @Jjjjjjjm
    @Jjjjjjjm Před 4 měsíci +3

    Kaufmann is too old,how the hell is he going to sing Enzo in Gioconda with this voice.

    • @kurtgarmaker3719
      @kurtgarmaker3719 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Gioconda is not Turandot. This opera should not be sung by any singer who cares about their voice

    • @theslof1
      @theslof1 Před 3 dny

      Could some one please explain the staging? A blonde, ble eyed Chinese in a mini skirt, and who are those four masked creatures?