Lifting a 80 series? What you NEED to know
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Lifting your Toyota Land Cruiser 80 series?
Whether you have a FJ80 or a FZJ80, the chassis and frame are all the same from 1991 through 1997.
The biggest question is how big you want to go, how will you be using your Land Cruiser and what your payload will be.
When going taller than 3", you start increasing your lift costs because you go down the rabbit hole of getting nee control arms, brake line extentions, bump stop extentions, panhard rod lift etc...
Under 3", you can keep it to just shocks and springs and bushings..
In my case, I went with the Icon Stage 3 suspension which was great for about a year, until I started adding ALOT od weight with a rear tire carrier, hiLift Kack, fridge, drawers, gear... so I had sag in the rear, about a1.5" drop.. Not great for the suspension either.
The problem is ICON doesn't sell any other coil springs other than their base dual rate springs.
So either I could put a spacers or put the proper weighted springs in the rear.
I wanted to keep the dual rate spring styles and found that dobinson made a Spring that can handle 600lbs extra payload over stock, and is dual rate.
Perfect!
This video shows you the transformation.
I’m a slinky guy running their Extra Heavy duty rear coils, been good for all the weight. Dobinson makes great gear.
Good call on going new coils.
For anyone looking for spring alternatives. Eibach started making 80 series springs. Their HD spring is comparable to the OME 2863, but actually smoother due to one exta coil.
Imteresting...springs only? or Shocks too?
I enjoyed all the nice LC’s and good discussion. Well done.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Lots of good info here 👌. That white 200 series is sweet. As a LX570 owner I just love the 200 series as daily drivers. Tons of power but super plush.
A 200 is definitely modern and powerful.. The last of the V8s.
Thank you Jaime for the awesome content. And thank you for answering all my questions over the phone. keep up the great work my dude!!!
You got it Bro!!
Hey just watching your vid and I put airbags in the rear springs 🇦🇺
I would love to see those LC80s in person. I have a 94 Diesel LC80 from Japan
Love the Diesels!
At 8 minutes you mention spacer can pop out...Thats BS. Spacers go on top of coils & extend free height of the coil. Only shocks that are too long to retain coils you have issues. For instance, you need a free coil height of 22" for a 28" front shock on an 80 series. If you have a 20" coil like an OME 850J you need a 26.5" shock no longet to retain the coil snug in the buckets.
Agreed
@lsvej1 OK, go wheel and get full flex, then LMK how it goes!
I would think putting air bags in the back could help, that way it stays level at all times
I didn't know you could get the Dobinson's in a color other than teal, good to know.
Yes, wanted to keep it black...
hiii!! me again!! PHH has been replaced on my 93, i checked the head gaskets like you suggested and they look good. she’s sitting on 35’s and my rpm’s DO NOT match yours, they’re SOOO much higher. i live in colorado and it has a snorkel..i wanna take her up in the mountains but im kind of scared to get on i70 with the lack of power on this thing..
oh you rich rich after I saw that turbo diesel
What are the differnces between dobinson and OME? It seems like the defacto was OME but now I see people getting dobinson instead. It seems like OME only makes springs for people with weight and so dobinsons lighter end spring are better for those without it. Excited about your next dobinson video. Still debating between dobinson stock height with yellow springs or OME.
Dobinson has a large variety for all situations. That's why I got their heavies. I will be putting their 2" base lift in a 80 series very soon.. Video coming!
Old Toyota Is Supreme
White the black powder coat aftermarket bumpers, black roof rack and black sliders. A black or dark colour like gun metal grey etc. Wheels would look a whole lot better in my opinion. I would even paint the flares black, cuz the black theme on the grey Toyota LC would really look good.
She looks great as she sits
I admire your lc 80s. I want an lx600 but ashamed there is no icon suspension options for it. Disappointed also in dissent choices. Maybe down the road there will be more options
As time goes there should be more...with Dobinson too.
@CruisingTheLand actually I just checked icon is available for lc300s so should be able to mod lx600 too?
I am getting my 93 FJ80 this week after a complete rebuild costing a fortune. What are insurance options out there? I am trying to get stated or agreed value but so far everyone points to Haggerty for classic.they only insure if the vehicle will be driven about 3000 miles a year. I never anticipated insurance would be an issue because so many are rebuilding rigs of all makes.
Haggerty just started insuring 80 series. I pushed then last year and they finally approved it. But yes, 3000 miles or less a year. and stated value. So you can say 20k or you can say 40k and pay more in insurance.
If you have armor on your vehicle, it's all about having Coverage for the other car..
Can you tell me about Otis’s headlights? And the two canisters on the rear ladder.
Head lights are Angel Eyes, Canisters are RollPax.. One is Tequila and other is Whisky
Hey man, love your videos. Got myself an 80 and just wondering if you know what the minimum lift I would need to install to be able to run 35inch muddies comfortably i.e no rub at full steering lock? Thanks
3" should do you fine.
Hey man great video and thank you for posting it. I have a newly triple locked Lexus LX 450, and reside in New Mexico. I wanted to see what you would recommend on gears as I’m planning several trips to Colorado. I’ll be putting a 3” OME 80 Series Land Cruiser with BP-51, and Cooper Discoverer MAXX ST 285/75R17. My question is what gear would you recommend? I don’t ever plan of going over the 34-35 inch tires.
So here is my experience. I run 35s and I chose not to regear. Reason is, I am mostly at sea-level in Southern California and rarely have to climb the Grapevine or El Cajon Passes.. But when I head up to the desert and high ground, I definitely feel the climb is tough and stuck between gears when heading up a grade. This is with the 1FZ-FE engine of course. With my Diesel 1HD-FT, no re gearing necessary, as the torque is plentiful to hold the gear and not kick down. The Diesel is just a different beast.
So ultimately a Diesel with 35s no problem, a FZJ with 35s in the mountain altitude and hills to climb, I would regear.
@@CruisingTheLand what gear ratio would you recommend?
Clean!
Hi mate. What bull bar are you running on Otis?
That's one made in the 🇺🇸 near me..Thicker metal than ARB or others..IMO the best high clearance bar. Would be $1350 US plus shipping.
I just acquired an 80 series and I have the icon 3 3” lift waiting to be installed. I don’t think the kit comes with the reservoir brackets. Please let me know where I can find them or what the solution is.
I just installed a Icon Stage 6 on a 200 series a.d.Icon supplied mounting brackets (it's a triangle flat metal piece, nothing elaborate. I would verify with Icon what is in your package.
@@CruisingTheLand 57801CP (QTY: 1) | 91-97 LAND CRUISER 80 0-3" FRONT 2.5 VS
RR CDCV PAIR
53007 (QTY: 1) | 91-97 LAND CRUISER FRONT SWAY BAR
RELOCATION KIT
53008 (QTY: 1) | 91-97 LAND CRUISER 4.6 DEG CASTER
CORRECTION KIT
53009 (QTY: 1) | 93-97 LAND CRUISER BRAKE LINE KIT +3"
53005 (QTY: 1) | 91-97 LAND CRUISER 3" FRONT DUAL RATE
SPRING KIT
53006 (QTY: 1) | 91-97 LAND CRUISER 3" REAR DUAL RATE
SPRING KIT
57802CP (QTY: 1) | 91-07 LAND CRUISER 80/100 0-3" REAR 2.5
VS RR CDCV PAIR
What is the best suspension upgrades for flex and plush ride? Dobinson springs, king shocks, and superior drop arms?
That would be a great combo, since King makes incredible shocks, but they don't make the springs. I would go dual rate springs. I have Kings and Icon dual rates on Black Mamba (my hdj81 Diesel JDM Land Cruiser)
What about bump stops? When doing a lift/bigger tires do you need them for all bigger than stock sizes or just 35s? Any recommendations on one you like?
Yes bump stop extensions is all you really need when lifting. There are a few companies that sell them, Slle, Delta, Witsend etc..
What about a 3 link suspension by 4 wheel underground for overlanding?
Sure, but you won't drive on streets anymore.. without issues.
I prefer to keep my 80s the way they were engineered..
Good video, Do you do any product review?
Yes I do on product that I use.
cruisingtheland@gmail.com
@@CruisingTheLand Just shot you an email 📧
what do you run for castor correction with the icons?
Yes, absolutely.
Question what model info on that dobinson i lift mine with 864x ome and i get bodyroll
No body roll on this one. Dobinson 3.5 800lb dual rate.
@@CruisingTheLand do you have model info or the box so i can order same i do not see there 3.5" anymore
What shop donyou use to go repairs need my 80 looked at
Are you in Southern California?
You can email me at cruisingtheland@gmail.com fir details
What tires are on the ome lift you showed second?
BFG K02 295/75/16 so closer to a 34" tire
Thank you
@@CruisingTheLand
How much are the handles and where do I buy them?
Agency6 Get 10% use code LC4x4
agency6.com/collections/universal-grab-handles
Also link for gear is in the description in the linktree.
Dont put this guy on the smart end of the tape measure
How so Bro? What part are you referencing?At the beginning, The camera was level with the tire, and I was looking at a top angle, so off by a 1/4"... no biggie.
Do you have a buyer for that red Land Cruiser already? Can I get your contact info if not? Or I am happy to give you my contact.. Nice Trucks btw!
The Red 80 hasn't been offered yet for sale..Awaiting a Rugged Bound Roof Rack. Will likely be put up on Thxgvg weekend.
You can reach out prior if you want.. Cruisingtheland@gmail.com
Anyone have opinions on Iron Man suspension?
first!