How Speedrunners beat Twilight Princess without Wolf Link (almost)
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Speedrunners took it upon themselves to see if they could beat Zelda: Twilight Princess without Wolf Link. This is the history of how they went from over 60 transformations, to only...
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His World Record can be found here: • Twilight Princess - Lo...
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0:00 - Intro
0:57 - Sponsor
2:07 - History
7:37 - The 16 Remaining
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Hope you enjoy the video, There are a few corrections I would like to add that slipped by in the making of this video:
1. I state the history start's in 2019, this is when the big push for the category happened, but the initial work took place in 2018 as well.
2. I said "Epona Seam Walk" for a trick in the video, the official name is "Epona Seam Clip"
3. I said multiple times "Minimum" instead of "Low Transforms" in the video, the official name is Low.
4. There ended up being misspellings at 7:30 and 10:51 with usernames. That is my fault, that should not happen and I will make sure that won't happen again in the future!
I will make sure to learn from these mistakes and make sure to double check for these kinds of errors in the future!
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Awesome video
Awesome video
Makes me wonder if adding any wolf transformations could remove others. But very interesting video.
Seeing the "staring at rupees" glitch get used was like seeing an old friend
The “Jump Strike Long Jump Attack Death Sword Skip” is a crazy name for a glitch 💀
Especially since they could have just called it the Long Jump Strike. Since, y'know, it's a Long Jump Attack that uses Jump Strike for extra height.
It's a combination of three separate things. You have Jump Strike Long Jump Attack (JSLJA), which itself is a combination of Jump Strike and another trick called Long Jump Attack (LJA). And you have Death Sword Skip (DSS). So JS + LJA + DSS. It's a better name than zuggle lol
@@ChrisisAwesome1 Well, sure, but DSS is a specific _scenario_ or application. The glitch itself is just a Long Jump Attack performed using a Jump Strike.
Edit: "Jump" no longer looks like a word.
I vote calling it Death leap
My (previous possibly, this one's pretty good) favourite speedrun tactic name is Dino Skip Skip from Mario Odyssey.
So named because there's already a trick called Dino Skip, and this is a way to skip having to do all that. It's a little bit jokey, but it comes from something... somewhat logical. Dino Skip is using a dinosaur in order to get to a later part of the level. Dino Skip Skip allows you to not have to use the dinosaur, still getting that that same part
Thanks for the video! Low Transforms is a project that I've spent many, many hours working on, discovering quite a few tricks, and the end result is a good run and an even better story.
Low Transforms is pretty complex, and there are so many different things that had to go right to get the current route. Like many speedrunning tricks/routes, lots of people's contributions led to the great story that we see. Credit especially to ChrisIsAwesome, who came up with the idea in the first place. Small and niche categories like this are really where the fun in speedrunning is, imo.
Honestly what got me interested in the speedrunning community was "Mario Odissey minimum captures" videos from SmallAnt.
I really like this type of videos ♡
i like that kind of speed running not "who ever glitches out of the map first wins" its why if i was a dev id nuke every out of bounds or level loading skip but keep interesting shit in so while you can just metroid 3 out of the game in 15 seconds if your smart enough and position the large acorn right you can d it without beating the game
There's some kind of poetic irony in the amount of time spent improving speed-runs. Hats off to the dedication.
It’s always great to see how much effort goes into each and every video you’re putting out there. Thanks so much, Lankus69!
Both casually and from a speedrunning perspective, TP is my favorite Zelda game, so I'm really glad you're covering news like this Linkus! Really great stuff as always. Keep the good stuff up my dude ❤
bro i love these speedrun explanation videos especially the twilight princess ones they’re brilliant
Always good to see some new Twilight Princess content ❤
OMG that's insane. The White Midna glitch has fascinated me since probably not all that long after the video was originally posted? Certainly back when that level of quality was the norm. IDK how I found it in the days of early CZcams, but it makes it so very gratifying to know that even if it's not any help with the barrier skip like the video originally was hoping, the community has finally found a useful place for it.
Great video, keep them coming :)
Gotta love the energy of speedruns like this. Developers being really proud of a mechanic and building a whole game around it, and gamers go "but what if we didn't use it?" XD
Reminds me of the time I decided to play Dishonored without magic or killing. And then got several achievements at once without even knowing they existed XD
Always happy to see another linkus7 video about zelda speedrun. Thanks buddy really appreciate your content!
i love your tp videos :D
This is honestly really crazy... I try to do what speed runners do but I ain't a pro gamer and I don't have a good gameer chair... Also love your content linkus.
ah yes my favourite chair of ALL TIME. the "GOOD GAMEER CHAIR"
@@rblxshortsandmore9241I AM 15 YEARS OLD and I am still so bad at spelling... ;-;
I mean, you could always attempt this run - it has 2 ~10-hour-ish rupee slides in it, so plenty of time to sleep and recover from being in a bad gamer chair.
Naming your skip "Jump Strike Long Jump Attack Death Sword Skip" is such a power move 😂
Always love me some Twilight Princess content. Thanks a bunch Linkus, Anorakkis, and everyone else who made this story so interesting!
Wooo! you need to do item sliding twice! You need to be dedicated for this run!
Glad to see more CZcams content coming out!
Yes! Some speedrun tips on Twilight Princess! I’m planning to get this game for the Wii and try out the speedrun glitches! 🐺
I will say, if you want to do LJAs, get the gamecube version! ^^ If I remember correctly, LJA isn't possible in Wii version. The gc version is playable on the Wii though so no worries on the console!
Well someone did a speed run on the Wii version: m.czcams.com/video/4zjEjrwCk3s/video.html
Problem is, I have a Wii that doesn’t support GameCube games.
@@traviscunningham7062 oh wack, is it a Wii mini?
I love all your videos. Got me into speed running and putting some of the longer speed runs on at night and I'll watch and fall asleep
Wasn't the boss skip in arbiters known forever and just too difficult to do in a run, till people figured out setups?
It was found on Christmas 2017 by Gymnast while doing a TAS. It took iirc about a year for it to be done RTA for the first time. Nowadays, it's commonly done by top runners.
Linkus mentions pickup slide
Me, a lowest percent viewer: "Oh no, oh god, not this again"
Iirc, it is possible to skip the Master Sword transformation with a glitch that transfers items to another save file. Using that glitch to have the bomb bag from the beginning of the game makes it possible to blow up a pair of rocks (the ones behind the wooden cages where the kid and the monkey are trapped) when going to the woods for the first time, allowing the player to reach the Master Sword as Human Link.
but when getting the glitched bomb bag, you have to transform, no? wouldn't the number of transformations then remain equal when you count both save files
@@-ughitssophie oh, that's right. I missed that one
I love your videos so much always so stoked when u post. One of my favorite content creators
Good video Linkus. I do hope for the community that a barrier skip is found.😊
TP videos by Linkus are a must watch
Hot take: we should allow speeding up your game and the timer to make rupee slide easier.
I love these speedrun documentary videos keep making more!
I really wish the "Wolf Mode" could be removed from Twilight Princess completely , , the wolf moments annoy me horribly , , , great video man , subject means a lot to me , , 🙏 😸👍👍
Crazy white midna glitch is now somehow relevant again 😂
Minimum Transformation Challenge (MTC) is an interesting topic. Kinda reminds me of the A Button Challenge for Super Mario 64.
If you like this kind of challenge you should watch the minimum captures in mario odyssey series from smallant. He has videos on almost the entire progression of the category
You're really sticking with MTC as the abbreviation? lol
11:49 "And after hours and hours of testing"
(Shows Link spinning in circles).
Thank you for uploading, your videos make me happy
Alternate Title:
"Twilight Princess but realistic."
because let's be honest, turning into a wolf is painful as hell, confusing as hell, and weird as hell. NO REAL PERSON WOULD WILLINGLY DO IT UNLESS FORCED TO.
Credit The Creators :0
is there any full route reference anywhere ?
here is a link to a run done by Anorakkis four months ago which is a 5 hour long video with sped up slides czcams.com/video/1I2KCzPQO74/video.html&ab_channel=Anorakkis
Congrats!!!
U spelled my name wrong PepeHands
Is this a reupload?
Well, a transformation is a transformation. You can't say it's only a half!
...hold on, wrong game
Yeah, I do not see any of the comments that were complaining anymore, guess they do get deleted
9:30 bro really just shorten "transform to a wolf" into transfur, what have you done
He didn't make that phrase; I've seen other people use it before.
@@MattTOB618 its not even correct transfur is a infection game type popularized by gmod and roblox
Early Hyrule Castle question: Is it only possible to move while holding a rupee? Could we hold a dog and do the same thing?
No, a dog doesn’t trigger that same animation where Link holds it in front of him and he stares at.
What a cool category
Uuuuuhhhhh. I understand that the sword technique can help you skip the poe boss. But How do you get the sword techniques without wolf link? Sounds like you'd add more transformations than you'd lose😕
You can do the howls during your existing wolf sections
We only need to be wolf to howl at the howling stones, and most of those are in sections where we'd be wolf anyway (Twilights, Snowpeak). There is one, though, that we have to use an extra transform for in Lanayru Twilight, because Wolf Link cannot climb ladders for some reason.
@@anorakkis but, Jump strike doesn't require all of them anyhow, only 6/7
Is he slightly whispering..?
Thanks for your videos, I find it super interesting! A question I ask myself all the time: How do speedrunners find out those things?!?
on accident 😅
so many different ways. Some of it is people spending a lot of time becoming extremely intimately familiar with how the game handles its mechanics (physics, damage calculations, items, doors, story state...) and devising plans for how to use that in unintended ways.
Some of it is just genuinely messing around and finding out. Just DO stuff that you're not supposed/expected to at this moment, see if anything interesting happens. Like for instance NOT clearing a text box for several hours.
Some if it is accidental, sometimes not even from the speedrunner community at all. Maybe somebody just stumbled across a weird game state, recorded it and uploaded that to youtube. Then when the speedrunners discover the video they set about trying to figure out how it happened and if it's any use.
It's in large part just that there's a lot of people playing the game, and a small group paying particular attention for anything that can help pick the game apart.
like your content, hope u regularly upload in the main and vod channel.
You couldn't just void out somewhere else in arbiter grounds?
The transform we're skipping with Stallord Skip is the warp away from Palace of Twilight. The Back in Time trick that we do to escape works anywhere in Arbiter's Grounds except in Stallord's arena, and we're only able to get back into the right part of the dungeon after Palace of Twilight if the Stallord fight is still active (because we skipped it).
@@anorakkis Not to mention that void shown isn't even for BiT, it's to die...
Twilight Princess makes me think of JOTWAD
The intro sounds like a kid trying to not wake their parents up in the next room while recording
all I know before watching this video is that if link can go through a wall if he stares at a rupee for 11 hours
Twilight Princess is sure full of surprises!
@Linkus7 Couldn't we death warp to the final boss room in twilight princess because Zelda's explanatory cutscene takes place within it? When you enter that cutscene in wolf form you transform back into a human, so wed enter as a human. I don't know how useful it would be because we might need the master sword to play dead man's volley with dark zelda. We could circumvent this with a bottle of course, but if I'm not mistaken the Ordon Sword does less damage than the Master Sword so even with great fairy's tears/ rare chu jelly we would not be able to two cycle dark beast Ganon. This results in the 3rd cycle needing wolf link. This is a theory, but it's a different lead than I've ever hear talked about. Based on what I just said we probably would need the master sword to be spawned in with us in the cutscene after defeating Dark Zelda.
It's a solid thought but has two big flaws: 1. You can't die into cutscenes (except for ones that initiated upon loading into a room and you die through loading zone), and 2. That cutscene takes place in a cutscene layer of that map. Even if we could warp into that layer, we'd be unable to do anything in the throne room, as there's no actors there. And it doesn't update your save location, so savewarping won't keep you in Hyrule Castle.
Wow that this category is crazy
oh boy a twilight princess video !!!! woo !!!!!
10:30 I assume the significant part there is that you get to HF with boss flag.
The significant part is having a way to escape desert without warping. It's very fortunate that Stallord room has valid BiTE data to avoid crashing when loading the file during BiT. If that wasn't the case, the route would be much different with more transforms. (reposted comment since I posted link to zeldaspeedruns site for more info and I'm guessing that auto-deleted comment, but ZSR has a page on BiTE if you want more info)
Was just watching the tas for tp
Just buy curtains linkus
I wonder if this could potentially go sub day. I haven't watched the full run, but the idea that half an hour could be shaved off of what's essentially a 4 and a half hour run (with two 10 hour intermissions) seems like a really hard ask. At least, probably not with the current route.
It absolutely could. The only finished run lost eight minutes near the beginning, and an extra six minutes in the middle. It wasn't a very optimized run, and I'm pretty sure sub 24 is doable.
Banger vid
Somebody: videogames sure are a great mean of entertainment!
Speedrunners: Death is the only way to reach peace
Speedrunning games, is a very magical thing to watch. Not only are utilizing glitches, as well as exploiting intended mechanics through unintended ways, very magical to see, but the actions done to save more time, gets new discoveries as time goes on, people discovering glitches and exploits, happens, learning more about a game's ways of breaking them regardless if the game is retro or not
EDIT: excuse me for the poor grammar of this comment, I went over it's contents, but cannot figure out how to fix the problems in this comment. I'm not smart btw
ngl those face masks look comfy
6:20 dam, Link REALLY likes that rupee
Every Zelda game has a gimmick.
Be it time travel, crunch, a boat, a floating wikipedia lady, a train, an iPad, GMod, another boat, the first level of Milky Way Wishes, time travel again, funny cutscenes, multiplayer, a singular item from the multiplayer game turned into a major mechanic, expensive multiplayer, side-scrolling, two worlds, the death of ownership alongside two worlds again, multiplayer with slightly less people, a crossbow, a crushingly existential moral dilemma, tingle, and of course, being a werewolf.
“The death of ownership” killed me 😂😂
Is it legal in a speedrun, for a trick like the rupee one, to set a timer for yourself to check back in say 9h50m then just go do other stuff while waiting for the glitch to get you in position?
twilight princess mention
You should play a totk or botw speedrun where you do all the side quests
Wait a minute, this isn't the Lowest Percent channel
Wow, that’s a LOT longer and more complex than Odyssey Minimum Captures.
I am concerned by the lack of wolf ....
_Early wrong warp gets discovered, and minimum transformations and any% become the same category_
let's get to watching
Isn't it possible to get the master sword as human link or am i confusing something?
cool story
super mario odyssey min caps vibes
I swear thats a Category ZFG would come up with.
Oi them sleep masks look good for blind folded speedruns can you use one in that category please
we need something like this for wind waker, boatless?
Hi Linus!
This feels like it should have been a Lowest Percent video.
This title reminds me of the first title of the first vid on the lowest percent channel
15:37
Midna: 😀💀
yes i love twilight princess
One day we will beat the furry accusations by beating the game without transforming
next up is furry% where you get wolf form as soon as possible and then spend as little time being human as possible
for that you would need to get out of the intro with two gate clips and go to eldin twilight to transform there into a wolf
I vote that more speedtricks be named like Dragon Ball Z special attacks
Death Sword Long Jump Skip (Wolfless Jump Strike Method)
You are welcome, community.
I just say... wow! I hope you guys get it down to zero.
Clearly Linkus isn't disappointed at all by the naming of the Jump Strike Long Jump Attack Death Sword Skip
20 hours alone spent staring at a rupee
JODSS: Jump Over Death Sword Skip
19:01 Still waitin on someone else to come across the death warp bug to the ganondorf horseback fight like I once did.
Nice
neat
what the issue with Jsl Jadss. just a perfectly normal word
Actually?
This should have been a Lowest Percent video.