Why I don't give a shit about FAANG (and you probably shouldn't either)
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- I don't work at FAANG, I was never interested in FAANG, and I don't want to work at FAANG. Here is why.
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Would you rather spend 3 weeks writing a design document on why a button should be moved left by 1 pixel, while surfing Reddit? Or would you rather code up distributed asynchronous systems after a hardcore design brainstorm?
Brainstorms all the way. I once had to produce an 8 page design/review doc for sign-off by higher uppers to change one line in a production DB stored procedure. It’s amazing that many managers at this late stage continue to preside over heavy counter-productive processes that kill efficiency and get in the way of innovation.
Miss the days when we brainstormed then quickly kicked off the proof of concept, evolving the design as we went along.
yes
Design document....😂
There's pros and cons I definitely agree with most of what you said. Working at small companies where you have a huge impact is really fulfilling and there is no / little "corporate". Its good to try both out and see what you like, as long as you keep learning.
Hey dude, your content is awesome. Surprisingly your teachings are exactly like what Jesus taught😂. Anyways awesome job. You'll hardly find such videos on the internet. You earned yourself a subscriber. Please continue being a content creator. And all the best
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Figured out about you yesterday and I'm just trying to follow a lot of your advices. Thank you for creating the channel.
You are so welcome! Happy to share!
working in faang at the start of your career will allow you to get interviews wherever you want the rest of your career
actually no
@@Decoy22x What ?! I really dont believe that.
About the impact part. I think when you factor in the scale the impact magnifies. Although for a developer it’s a small change to add a button on some page, the impact is huge for the company.
I hear your point, but I don't think that, even if the impact to the company is considered large, people cannot attribute the change to you as a developer given that you're a cog in a 100'000 developer machine.
Coding Jesus Yep. Totally with you on that.
Great video. I absolutely agree. Work at FAANG is extremely slow paced.
Yeap, you are right. FANG has done a great propaganda job in fooling people that they are the definition of tech and they set the tech culture as well. I would say that they are good for learning how to build software at scale, but definitely not long-term places for your career, except if you were employee number 500 or below, which in those cases you are probably just an investor or a VC by now. Also, culture really matters these days. If you are a capitalist or a conservative person, you really have to be very careful where you go to work. I don't think this needs much explanation.
You also don't have to do the superfluous training courses they make you do. I work at a Fortune 500 company, and they expect your 110% commitment. I admit it is getting exhausting but I'm very focused on improving my financial wellbeing to be able to work for less and still be happy. I can't yet due to debts.
Only point I somewhat disagree with is about working on cuttingedge/forefront of technology. Of course, it depends on where you work and what you're working on. I'm not as fond of the more frontend work, but hey, different strokes for different folks.
We've had new grads get to work on things like new networking protocols and application protocols, participate in IETF and IEEE meetings for design brainstorming/reviews, etc. Lots of internal C++ libraries that end up making it into the C++ standard as well.
You mentioned your team is 10 people - What percentage of HFT firms are usually in engineering?
Thanks for saying this. I came to the conclusion that I might not like working at FAANG once I heard my college buddy's schedule at Apple. I know I can't generalise, but after hearing a few stories, these places sound toxic.
You are very smart I like when you said a wise man does not concern himself with trying to look good for other people. I think that might be in the Bible to be honest because I know there is something in there that says that if you are going to do something good for someone you do not do it in front of them where they can see because if you do that then it’s like you’re showing off and I know that is in the Bible so there is a connection there and that is very smart think what you just said I really liked it
I agree with this for the most part, but I think you are overstating the lack of impact in a FAANG company. At big tech, you can leverage virtually infinite resources to your advantage, and have more impact to the outside world than a startup would. You are correct that you might not be revolutionary, but I think the scale at which faang operates gives you more absolute impact.
For example, let's say you work at Google, and you decrease the deployment time of GCP compute instances by 1% in 5 of the largest zones. The downstream impacts probably mean 10s of millions in downstream savings in time for millions of developers.
I would think of working at FAANG as getting in a giant mech suit that gives 10x more power. However, your actual task will be hyper focused and you might end up working a year on implementing the example above. I feel like the work can be engaging, and extremely impactful, but not innovative (most of the time). That being said, I still agree with you and working at a startup is much more stimulating and rewarding. I like startups because there usually is greater breadth of technical challenges, less bureaucracy and a greater sense of innovation.
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This all shouldn't be about working at FAANG. When sb acquired appropriate skills should definitely try his own web/mobile app to have multiple sources of cash flow.
When you work in corporate environment you should forget about any free time and also any time for your own projects which leads to a slavish attitude. This is the biggest issue here.
You make a good point. As I mentioned in the video, the culture at these firms pulls you in and keeps you hooked to their daily grind. You lose focus on life outside corporate.
It had to be said 🙏🏻 this was so genuine.
Speaking of TechLead, what're your thoughts on his million token?
Can i still join your discord community? The link isnt working.
What do you think about forex market compare to stock market , could you do a video ?
Loving the messy hair and bright message!
What features of C++ are most used in the finance space?
That's a good video idea :D
Coding Jesus That was the intent :)
Also, I see a lot of job opportunities around this space. So I’m interested.
Please make a list of companies which pay freshers more than Google.
Also, there are revolutionary teams within MAMANG which get things done. Small ones.
Subscribed. Now I hear Jesus is talking to me 😁
REMEMBER a case of Steve Jobs - he was not a programmer (he didn't create any line of code) but a visionary and designer and actually became an icon of IT world :)
So like there are many ways leading to Jesus there are also many ways by which sb may become successful as well as happy.
Preach, brother.
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Thanks for telling me that I don't have to work at google to be good. Currently a year 2 computer sci kid, and I Felt like I was to focused and brainwashed. It's good but I have interned in big tech (rakuten ) and the work they do is mediocre. I enjoyed my time in startups when I was not paid but I m investing so much into myself. However I am really insecure as gpa is something I have to grind real hard in and I kinda tie my gpa to my intelligence/dev. And that's why I put google on a pedestal as it's where all the all rounders go. Great video and I hope you make a video talking about gpa and strategies if your gpa isn't the first class Suma cum laude, and how we can leverage pet projects to still be successful
So mind to share which company do you work for now?
Yes I will tell you where I work. Do you want my home address too? How about my parents home address as well? Let me know
@@CodingJesus No need to overreact, thats fine if you dont want to tell.
@@TKFOO84 yea lmao
I'm not interested because they don't give me interviews
I want you to talk about what is the best way for someone who knows nothing about the stock market to be able to put their money somewhere and for it to grow the fastest way for that to happen for dummies like me. Seriously you are very smart. In my opinion I would put it in gold then maybe some silver but mostly gold and Tesla but that is just me. I honestly don’t know anything really. But that’s just my opinion let me know if I’m right and I think you should do a video to let people know how they could really grow their money the fastest with just putting their money in the smartest things and what those smart things are and maybe when to put the most money and what stocks like the timing
Just what I needed
agree, some people have only their job and thats it
Very good comment! Thnx
That's why I wanna work at Hudson River Trading
Any thoughts on Google X, IBM Research, Facebook Research etc.?
Very informative video
You are kind..Thank yoi
I’ve done startups, I’ve been successful fang is the best. Grass is not greener.
Great insight / spiel
Just clicking the comment button as requested. Cheers!
Jesus man. I am not religious but this Jesus appeals the most also confirmation bias.
I thought TechLead was just a comedian... did he really work for Google and Facebook?
Yes
I know my friend. Google is a very good company to work at. Must be a challenge getting your foot in the door :-)
You sound like you're from Toronto
I understand your points. But don't forget you are posting videos on one of their platforms. And you get subscribers because of their platform.
This video is funny, because this Companies are not in your focus area.
HOW ABOUT RIOT BLOCKCHAIN ?
It’s easy to say this when you’re unable to make it there…
lmao do you think breaking into quant is easier
@@AD-zs9ccyeah tru but he is not quant at top firm also quant job is very stressful if you can't perform good
Did u say that this is the end of rant ?!?! 😂
agreed!
Good content!!
What do you think about fintech companies like Stripe and Robinhood?
This was beautiful
Great vid
Haha you're always so quick to comment. Thank you!
@@CodingJesus Np You're nearly my favorite coding channel, also you got great potential
@@LakkOT How can I improve? And join the discord if you haven't. There is a channel for sermon suggestions.
"Career is not a sprint but a marathon" Wow!
Where do you work?
What the fk is faang?
I resonated so much with this.... sooooo so much
Keep up the good content!!
Thanks Edwin! Will do.
Hi mate. I've been following your videos even before moving to US. Now that the timing is right and I'm looking forward to intern with your firm. I'm pretty excited about the quant space and can understand since I've been doing the trades for 2 years now. - Looking for engineering intern roles. Let me know. Will send out my resume
FAANG isn’t the be all and end all. And great point about culture however that sort of culture is also in a lot of start ups and small firms and even prop trading firms, you just have to find what’s best for you. The points about impact were waffling. There’s a lot of impact you can make at FAANG. Perhaps research before minimising people’s jobs to just fixing buttons ? “Not cutting edge” really? That’s not true in any way sure there’s other great companies at the top of the field especially because many of them are specialised but FAANG does research too to stay competitive so there’s no way you can claim this as a fact. The best advice to anyone starting out is to work for a company they can learn the a lot from and that is a culture fit for you, that can definitely be at FAANG. Most people at these companies don’t brag either. This video is just bitter tbh
Yes, Google has advanced research divisions. But as a new software engineer (which is who the audience of this video is, primarily university students) you’ll have much more of an impact at a firm with 50 employees than one with 100,000.
@@CodingJesus I definitely agree with that point but it depends on what career path, someone might decide to be at the same firm for years and they’ll definitely learn a lot and grow even if it’s large scale, better and wider options available as well if they think of switching jobs .
I agree especially for retail investors I don’t think anyone should invest in any of these companies because they’re selling our personal information to each other and they are using us for marketing techniques so that was we will spend money on their products so why would we invest into something like that? I think we need to be investing into things that are actually good for us and good for the country and our environment like Tesla LOL I am all in on Tesla. I think everyone should go all in on Tesla and of course the Memes sucks I like that because if you can beat this short sellers and if you know how to do it right if everyone will just buy the asking price and hold and don’t sell you could cause a short squeeze so big that your shares could be equal to $1000 per share if you all buy and hold and you have to buy the asking price and not wait for it to go down because that just lets the short sellers fill their short positions at a lower price and that’s not what you want you want to force them to pay a higher price so you don’t want to sell if you’re going to buy the meme stocks like GME & AMC
you seem like you have a very misguided view of faang
Mom, please stop creeping my videos...
@@CodingJesus 😂😂😂😂 Legend
why you call yourself coding Jesus lol.
Insightful video tho,may not agree 100% but it's still insightful.
Maybe add some music to the videos.
Lmao
Startups > FAANG for me...
higher visibility, more responsibility, greater learning opportunities, wider impact across the entire stack, better variation in work and technologies used, far better prep as far as going down the startup entrepreneur route (in a technical capacity) versus trying to cultivate a CV that’ll keep me “relevant” to hiring managers at corporate fads for the next 20 years...
Candidate: I worked at and then at .
Recruiter: Excellent. Can you tell me what significant technical contributions you made while in these roles? You specifically I mean.
Candidate: 👁👄👁
Those companies do measure impact internalle, so if the candidate really did work at FAANG, he'd be able to recite the impact he personally had in his sleep.
@@avornamebnachname3844 good to hear as impact and responsibility are an important part of confidence and growth 👍
Assuming that people who work at FAANG don't make any significant technical contributions is the most idiotic thing I've ever read. After working at FAANG hiring managers and recruiters are obsessed with my CV and experience. Not the same story when I worked at a smaller startup. Not everyone wants to work at a small startup with bad WLB and low pay when they can work at a FAANG and make much more money and have it on their resume making it easier to interview around with different companies in order to get a higher compensation.
If a work life balance is important to you don’t work at those companies