@@Croach193 Learn to read so you don't look stupid when you're trying to make a point -- to your question, no, but that wasn't the point I made. Did people care about VADER when the Father reveal happened? Yes, a lot. Which is the point I made.
Horikoshi already confirmed in an interview that AFO has had an erectile dysfunction since he was 16. This blows the whole theory out of the water. Fact.
Maybe merging it with AFO'S quirk could cause it to start seeing quirks as physical things. Think of it like energy-bending in Avatar:The Last Airbender Not that I endorse DFO personally, but how a quirk would work as a combination of Inko's and AFO'S quirks is interesting
@@talphazero1036 plus her quirk specificaly atracts small objects, so maybe it could take quirks from distance but have a limit of how many can be taken from distance at once due to a virtual size they have
One of Deku’s defining traits are that he isn’t a chosen one, hell, OFA to its core came from two rather unimpressive abilities, none of the OFA users were anything special until it stored enough power to beat AFO through this network of heroic people with a will to do good, making him a chosen one goes completely against OFA’s nature
Giving Midoriya a father was entirely pointless. Honestly could have just written him as dead and Inko is a widow that lived off his life insurance or something
or, or, they could just... made him have a dad in the same way he has a mom. as in, he shows up every once and again, just to show that he exists before going back into irrelevancy... not every hero need to be an orphan.
You know what would be funny if Deku and His mom were regularly calling his dad off screen. I mean whenever Deku and His mom talk about his dad they aren't sad or angry. They just bring it up casually.
@@marcosdheleno nah, he's a shounen protagonist therefore he is by laws of shounen obligated to have a dead and/or absent father. It comes with the territory.
I think that to have Deku's father not be AFO but work for him abroad or something would've been more interesting than DFO. Imagine if for this war, AFO called some of his strongest men to Japan, I would've loved to see Hisashi's reaction at his son suddenly becoming the no. 1 target and if he would go through with AFO's instructions or decide to help him with the risk of being killed, since we really don't know how close he is to Deku. I still wouldn't be completely supporting of this theory either, it's just that if I were to pick between DFO and something like this, I'll choose this.
This is definitely a better theory than DFO ever will be. I actually like it thematically. To rub even more salt into Izuku's wounds would be interesting. His father helping the No. 1 Enemy, for who knows how long, but probably not doing anything that important. The best one-liner AFO could give to Izuku at this point would be, "Midoriya Izuku, I know your father." And then give a specific comment about what country or place he is at the moment.
Horikoshi not only had the "I am your father" moment between AFO and All Might regarding Tomura, but he also had the opposite "I am your son" moment with Toya and Enji
Not only did Afo already have an "I am your father" type moment like you mentioned but we've also had a more direct parallel from Dabi's dance. Just with the father and son roles being flipped.
I really hoped the DFO theory would die when he started mocking Deku’s lack of power before the vestiges stopped them from stealing OFA, it pretty clearly showed how AFO didn’t have any personal connection to Deku
I mean not to defend the DFO theory but DFO being a thing does mean he has to be nice to Deku, especially if he sees Deku's as failed experiment I mean it's implied he did care about Yochi and look how that turned out DFO really doesn't mean he can't be a dick. Again not saying that the theory is plausible but AFO mocking Deku isn't really a smoking gun against it.
The nagging thing about Midoriya's father is his complete absence from the story, aside from a small mention in the very beginning, there is nothing, not a phone call, not a hospital visit, nothing, he simply doesn't exist as a character. So where is he, he is apparently alive and working abroad, but are there no home visits, no attempt at communication with his wife and son at all? As many times as Deku has been hospitalized, he never visits or anything, what kind of father is this? His absence is inexcusable after so long unless he is either dead (which we know he isn't) or unless there is a clear good reason why he is unable to have a direct relationship with Inko and Deku. If AFO is Deku's father, it would explain his absence and why there is no relationship between them, but then it opens up a whole other can of worms. Like how and why AFO got with Inko, how much does she know, what were AFO's intentions in having a child, why abandon said child when clearly he gathers other children to use as pawns and materials for experiments, and so on. If Deku's father will be "revealed", as in a character we have already met but don't know it yet, then who would it be other than AFO? All Might? Aizawa? That would be even more ridiculous! I think Dad For One could work out if it was handled right, but the way the story has been deteriorating lately that doesn't seem likely anymore. Because if it isn't AFO, then why bother with any of this mystery at all? Why keep his father a secret for so long if it was going to be a surprise and big development on the story? At this point it would be better to just have Hisashi never show up at all and forget about him, make it a dead plot point.
@SirReepicheep Rules maybe deku's dad is just following the trend of being a japanese business man , and taking his work over sea's too seriously, that he basically has not talked deku in an while , his name is seriously means it been a long time.
@@chongwillson972 Bruh, he's son nearly died several times. It's not a real trend, it's fictional lazy trope. Any kind of father would get in contact, either out of his own interest or in concern.
@@chongwillson972 my brother in christ,deku clashing with shiggy is basically shaking the planet and determining the fate of humanity,where is my man?😂😂
I had to bump the playback to 0.75 because of the speed you were speaking, but it's admittedly a tiny nitpick compared to the rest of the video, which is fire in terms of pacing, content and editing. Glad there's a comprehensive video on this topic in particular.
Funny how I watched it at 1.25 speed😂 Been trying to blitz videos faster so I can watch more, and found out pretty quick I don't miss out on any of the content by speeding up most videos to 1.25, 1.5, 1.75 or even 2x speed. Nothing against CZcamsrs or this guy, it's just something I do for my own enjoyment
One theory i was intrigued by was Denki being the UA traitor. There was a lot of hints leading to it, mainly through denki’s quirk, electrification. And then the traitor was randomly Aoyama?
Aoyama being the traitor has had numerous hints throughout the story like when was noticeably absent from USJ attack and Dabi purposely ignoring him during the training camp. He was not actively trying to help AFO or hurt the heroes which is why is was dormant for so long after Kamino, because despite his role, he really did want to be a hero, but he was stuck in a difficult situation that he couldn't get out of. Aoyama was by no means randomly the traitor, but it was plot point that had to be addressed because it was canonically critical to the story.
the only possible hint to it being denki was, as you said, his quirk-specifically his quirks very big drawbacks. but this is also sort of confirmation bias like dfo, as its the only possible 'hint' for him being a possible traitor. the aoyama reveal was VERY hinted towards almost as much as dabi being toya. his hero name, his abscene/distance in situations like USJ etc, his entire character in the school festival arc, how he always eats alone, dabi spotting him in the training camp but very quickly dismissing him, etc. it was not random at all
My take is that either he was supposed to be his father or there was open window for such possibility during early stages of MHA. But as story took it's course, plan was either dropped or never went beyond mere possibility.
I do wonder who deku's dad is but NOTHING points to it being one for all, and it doesn't seem like an interesting development. Dabi's origin was basically known by all before the official reveal and it was fantastic, one for all being izuku's father would just be confusing.
Idk they gave us some solid points to believe he wouldn't be the father, thinking otherwise without cluse is just doing mental gymnastics, hell endever has a better chance of being revealed as his dad
It’s not that I was super hardcore on this theory, just thought it would be a bit interesting and slightly funny/shocking if it happened. However, watching you explain everything in a great way kinda made me think “wow that would actually be dogshit and ruin two insanely important characters”. Great vid! (Also Odd Future imo)
Great video ! The funny thing is, while I think Dad for One is likely to happen, I don't disagree with most of what you said. I used to really like the theory back then but now that we are in end game and there's not been all the things I thought we would get before any dad for one reveal, I agree it would be challenging for Horikoshi to make it work.
This is a phenomenal, succinct video on DFO Asa. You brought up so much info together in one spot (a lot of facets to the theory I've forgotten/never thought about) that I feel like a sudden expert on the topic lol. Great work! Can't wait for AFO to reveal he is Endeavor's dad next chapter or whatever
Theres also the fact shigaraki was meant to be the next all for one AFO directly said he wanted Shig to grow in all the ways he did in act 2 of the story myself included. He wanted him to get allies, become stronger and hate more. So even striking out he was still following the script AFO wrote for him. So why would he need deku to become the next him while he outright has shigaraki Hell the shigaraki persona WAS made by afo so again why.would.he.need.deku
afo doesn't want or need deku to become the next him tho?? he wants deku because deku has ofa which is connected to afo's younger brother, and afo believes if he has ofa, he can bring back yoichi. sooo, nothing changes in the dfo theory still
when it comes to why izuku would care if all for one was his father- it would simply be that ALL FOR ONE IS HIS FATHER, izuku's whole character is 'you can be more than you start as' and if he started as the son of the worst villain in human history he may have a moment of doubt, something that could truly turn the tide of the second war, plus image if you'd spend your while life wanting to be a hero, told by everyone you couldn't be a hero, finally prove your worth only to find out that the man you were always told was a innocent and loving man, was the worse villain, and the man you were DESTINED to fight as you inherited a power from that SAME MAN'S RIVAL!? dude it doesn't matter izuku's connection or love for his father- if everything knew about him was an f-ing lie and that the man possibly tricked his mother, or that he may never be a hero due to his heritage
What if vigilantes gave us the answer. What if it's not afo and rather it's one of the experiments 1-5. Number 6 shows us that they can look and act like normal humans. One just went rogue
1.)All for one got his head smashed. It'd be impossible for that walking patoato to jog a memory. 2.)Pretty sure Dekus dad has been gone for awhile. Depending on when he left,he likely wouldn't remember. (Not supporting the theory,just reasoning with that part)
Question: What do you think Deku's father being revealed is going to do for Deku as a character? Personally I think Deku's dad being revealed would honestly highlight or show the genesis of Deku's self destructive tendencies and low self worth, which would snap him out of it and fully embrace the help of others and emotionally open up as a character about his feelings of himself, his dad and others I highly doubt that it would ever happen, Horikoshi had multiple opportunities to introduce him prime example being the dark Deku arc but never did...I really like the idea of some random nobody having the biggest impact in the story
I definitely agree with you, even though Horikoshi is an obvious big fan of Star Wars, I still have doubts on the thought of AFO being Izuku’s father, cus Hisashi was in America…so there’s nothing that everyone else could think about lol
If afo really isn't Deku's dad then what was the point of not giving Hisashi any appearances in the story whatsoever? Making him the generic absent father adds nothing. Not trying to rag on Hori or anything, but would it really have been *that* hard to occasionally draw ONE character and give them a few appearances throughout the series? Bakugo's dad appeared a few times, and so has Ochako's. Why not Hisashi?
Sometimes making a person conspicuously absent from the story is the whole point. It makes it more realistic. If Deku truly was from a not-high class family Quirkwise (unlike the Todoroki family for example), wouldn't it be possible to also have a not-high class story for his family too? His father is simply that, an absentee father.
The closest we get to an All For Son would be Monoma. Though if that were the case, I can see why AFO abandoned him. Kendo instantly KOs Monoma. AFO: I can't believe he's blood.
monoma really is the discount afo, but that's why I love him. Side-note: Afo trying to create another him only to create a hero loving kid who's seen as villianeous because of his quirk is pretty ironic, and I'd give something for monoma to do other than be aizawa stand-in.
While I do agree with you that the theory isn’t that good, I do want to add that another important theme in My Hero Academia (at least how I see it) is legacy and passing the torch. In that regard, making AFO Deku’s dad could provide some interesting commentary on that theme, in addition to the Todoroki family. Because, whether he likes it or not, a piece of All For One, his legacy, will be carried on through Izuku by his blood. This was already touched on with the Todoroki family of course but this could be a different scenario. Also, from a narrative sense, other than Deku, this would have an interesting effect on heroes and society. What if your greatest hero was the child of the greatest villain. That would bring some further unrest to society and make some people paranoid that this is still all according to AFO’s plan. Too late in the story for that but eh… would have been somewhat interesting.
@@ProjektTaku He tried to steal erasure 15 years ago (mentioned by Garaki and shown in Vigilantes), but after failing to steal it, he completely stopped trying to get it.
@@ProjektTaku To be even more precise, the accident I'm talking about is the same accident where Oboro died, but it wouldn't make much sense for (what should be his character) him to give up after getting one quirk since he "He can't help but take quirks"
@@ProjektTaku He said himself that whenever he sees a good quirk he can't help but take it, so switching goals when he made an entire plan to steal a good quirk wouldn't make sense (if his character already made sense)
Ok, but you forget to mention that when afo is fighting all might he say "You gave the quirk to Izuku midoria right? He came to you *completely unqualified* How did he know? Hmmm....
@@luishernandezsoto he saw a powerless kid, then this same kid sudently has a power that works in a similar way to Allmight's, screams SMASH when punching something and enters in U.A in the same year that Allmight starts teaching there. I honestly can't see how he wouldn't know.
I've actually seen fan arts about this "theory", but I thought it meant as a fanfic Alternate Universe idea, not a serious one where it coincedes with the official story. Some people are crazy 💀
Actually Deku does have a combination of his parents’ quirks. The mother can attract small objects and the father can use fire. Deku attracts hot things lol
I personally like the theory that all for one is his dad but he just stole his quirk then left. I mean it would be hilarious if all for one went around and just made children like he is breeding in pokemon then steals theit quirks then just gets the hell out of there. Heck maybe the reason 20% of the people being born quirkless is because all for "daddy" just got all the bitches.
I want the next thing AFO to say in the manga to be something like "My gift to you, Midoriya Izuku, is a potato." Then Izuku appears and flies right into a potato/rock being chucked into his face.
I actually have a few candidates that might be Dekue's father. 1 Slide and Glide 2 Endeavor 3 Ereaser Head 4 Erie's father 5 Virgin convinced by an unknown power
I'm very late to the party so please forgive me. I actually made a comment on one of the Dad For One videos featured here, explaining my thoughts and ideas for the theory. I agree with you, at this late in the game doing a All For One is Deku's long lost dad is not a terrible idea that could ruin the story, but to me theories are just a fun way of doing what ifs. In regards to the theory itself and my comment, I won't go over it word for word here but my general consensus was All For One used the name "Hisashi" as an alias to hide his identity. He and Deku's mom's meet was completely coincidental, in my opinion, so no elaborate plan to breed a mini AFO, just two people who met and fell in love. Honestly if Deku was AFO's kid i would think he would have some mutant hybrid Quirk and not just an All For One variant. I suggested in my comment that AFO may have wanted to give Deku a Quirk when the news came that he was Quirkless because he's the Dark Emperor who can do anything, a living god on earth, his son must have a power of his own. So why didn't he? I doubt it was because he was a failure like the Todorokis, it could have been as simple as Deku's mom talking him out of doing it, probably knowing the secret of her husband's identity and the side effects of his Quirk. As I said in my comment, AFO is a monster who thrives on chaos and destruction, but at the end of the day and at his core he is a human being. He's just as capable of anger, love, compassion, and hatred as you or me. Ultimately, he couldn't stay with his family and had to leave them for their own good. Think of how much danger they would be in if he were to stay. I know this is a long comment and sorry about that, I just like talking about this theory from time to time. Your video made me look at the theory in a different lense so thank you!
That could happen. 1. AFO could have disguised himself as Hisashi Midoriya to hide from the cops and Pro Heroes. 2. Knowing him, he most likely has a fire breathing Quirk in his arsenal, which he mainly uses as Hisashi Midoriya to hide his true identity. 3. As you said, Horikoshi references Star Wars a LOT. This theory _could_ be possible, but again, it couldn't. Let's wait and see once the series ends.
You know I'd like to believe that Horikoshi would never do something as stupid as make AFO Midoria's Father. However, I'm reminded of Naruto and another ridiculous theory that proved true. That theory was Tobi and Obito being one and the same. There was NOTHING in the story or timeline that could remotely suggest that Obito and Tobi were one and the same. I remember people arguing how stupid that was and how that would totally undue the character of Kagashi not to mention all the gaps and questions about how he managed to recover from having one side of his body completely crushed (including his brain) having that side replaced with synthetic whatever, recovering inside of a year and a half, while somehow training in that same space to be good enough to take on Naruto's dad one on one and somehow control the 9 tails. That cockamamie theory no matter how illogical it was turned out to be correct. Us haters who rejected such a stupid theory got served. I stopped reading Naruto as soon as that plot twist was revealed...
Honestly, it's waaaay too late to pull DFO twist when nothing has set up for it unlike the "Dabi is Touya" reveal that was clearly set up since the start (how Dabi was first shown during the news of Stain's "arrest" by Endeavor, the interesting way Dabi called Shouto in the forest, the similar way Dabi and Endeavor's flames ignites, etc etc)
The only way to make Dad For One not good awful is if when Deku has Afo on the ropes, Afo lies about being Deku's dad just to get a cheap shot off and run away. Afo feels like the type of guy to just make shit up to win so it makes sense with his character. The only way to do it seriously though would be if Horikoshi was trying to do a scene like in the end of the first Raimi Spiderman movie where Peter renounces the Goblin one last time. But this still wouldn't work cause like, there's literally no reason for Deku to join Afo or side with him or even sympathize with him.
You know what? I'm still gonna write DFO. And I'm gonna write him like an immortal comic book nerd that hits a level of surprisingly good parent that is only roamed by Lucifer from Hazbeen Hotel
@@AgentNero9 it's a playlist that has some videos that cover why I think MHA's writing has gone down in quality. You replied to my comment in another video, on the season 6 trailer I think but maybe my comment isn't visible because of the link.
@@jdellabeat6245 I wouldn't blame you. At this point I just feel disappointed. The series had a lot more potential, yet it's rushing to it's end, and in such a way that it destroys many plot points and even characters.
I’d like All For One to tell Deku: “Can you really kill me, I am your father after all” when he’s on deaths door. And then Deku freezes for a second, shakes it off and just shouts, “who cares” and smashes him in the face. Because it so fantastically subverts expectations, and is in line with Deku’s more mature personality.
subverting expectations does not autometicaly makes it good, AFO knowing Deku is his kid and never trying to use it for his advantage would make him look stupid.
No it isn't. If that was the case All Might would've been able to use the previous users quirks as well. Being quirkless just allowed Deku and All Might to have a normal lifespan while holding OFA. The 4th user died at age 40 and that was with a far weaker version of OFA than Deku's. If Deku had a quirk and got OFA he probably would've been dead within a year. Deku is allowed to use the previous users quirks because the previous users believe that Deku will be the last holder so they're allowing him full access to everything.
I think the reason why Deku's dad has never shown up is the same reason why the Pokemon player character usually doesn't have a dad-some Japanese culture thing I don't understand properly
My personal theory is there a bunch of forshadowing for who izuku's dad is throughout the series that will all be exposed in the last or second to last chapters
As much as i love all for one as a villain I HATE the theory It wouldnt make me drop the series obviously but it Will put a bad taste in My mouth I Will still think mha is pretty good manga and anime but ill hate that part of the series and story that i still think is great am thankfull you made this video
Eh ive read some good stories where AFO is Izuku's father. I agree it wouldn't work in MHA especially since the Dabi plot line covers the family tragedy arc so well but they're still fun to read.
It was a fun theory during MHA first few years, what with all the Star Wars references. However the more time when on, the more it just grew less and less likely.
It doesn't mathemathically makes sense, Lets say All For One really was Midoriya's father, He left him before Midoriya could have a memory meaning it was between 0-3 years old, Now after he left him he aged a little and then found shiggy and adopted him, When he adopted shiggy shiggy was five, I say shiggy as a short to shigaraki because I don't have that much free time but anyways, If shiggy was adopted when he was five and that was after Midoriya was born that means the age gap between shiggy and Midoriya is 2 years by the theory. Now we all know that's not true, That's why the theory cannot be true. Sorry to break it to y'all but if you like dramatic twists of "I am your father" just go to star wars.
you know one of the similar reveal that works? Kenjaku`s revealed to be Yuji`s mom/dad it ties many question on why yuji is different from any normal kid. why he can contains sukuna and kenjaku even aknowledged that yuji is his son and ... so what? nothing changed
Honestly the biggest evidence for this theory is Izuku’s extra toe joint. Dr. Garaki, being the Doctor for AfO, would know his child wouldn’t have to lie about the toe joint, except for Hisashi not being a first gen Quirk user. But this immediately presents the problem of why Garaki didn’t help Izuku because he’s AfO’s son? Even the best evidence for DfO comes with issues from it being concrete.
I'm open minded but if this theory is true and dad for one isn't true I still like the idea and will probably still search for things like that because one it's not a real world so I can't hurt anyone and two because it's fun to think about and it's fun to imagine so it not being real isn't really a bad thing but if it does turn out to be real I'll be super happy also I don't really care dad for one is the best fan base / theory / alternate universe.
Also, the whole all for one gave shigaraki decay, makes no sense in the mindset of, I can kill anyone by touching them so no one can really harm. Decay is busted in the sense that it doesn't matter how powerful you are, as long as my quirk can touch you, you'll be turned too dust, insta win against all might.
I've read a few good fanfics, the best AFO is actually g randpa. But seriously, AFO is supposed to be a couple centuries old, why would he wait until now to have a child?
Wait a second at 4:37 you talk about how there’s a 4 year gap between shigiraki and deku finding out he’s quirkless. However wouldn’t all for one instantly know he’s child is quirkless upon birth because of the extra toe bone and not being able to steal the quirk. And if that’s the case it’s actually fits the timeline really well. All for one tried having his own kid to pass on his quirk but it failed so he wanted to take his anger and use it against nanas family.
Inko was just a side pice they where just casualy fucking. Now the fact that All for one is actually Tomas grandfather by managing to sleep with Nana somehow is undeniably fact and cannot be disproven.
Really enjoyed the video (and the Re:Zero ones are excellent as well)! You laid out the exact reasons why I've never liked this as a concept. It has always felt cheap and unnecessary. As for my question: how do you feel about MHA Vigilantes, if you have read? I enjoyed it quite a bit and always find it a shame that it's not discussed all that much.
AfO already had his "I am your father" moment, when he told All Might that Tomura was Nana's grandson.
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Nah, that wasn't really on the level. Can't really compare those two moments narratively. At that time, the readers barely gave af about Nana
@@philosopher9672 And we cared about who Luke’s dad was when that reveal happened?
@@Croach193 Learn to read so you don't look stupid when you're trying to make a point -- to your question, no, but that wasn't the point I made. Did people care about VADER when the Father reveal happened? Yes, a lot. Which is the point I made.
@@philosopher9672 did people care about shiggy and afo at that time? Yes, alot.
Technically Tomura is 4 years older than Izuku, he turned 20 at the USJ and Izuku turned 16 in July of the same year.
Horikoshi already confirmed in an interview that AFO has had an erectile dysfunction since he was 16. This blows the whole theory out of the water. Fact.
Source?
Ayo tell me the source
Just steal hardening 😏
It's been implied that he obtained a quirk at some point that functions as viagra
@@nothingtoseehere8771 if you have a "PP HARDENING" quirk, how would that be useful in combat?
13:16 Inko’s Quirk only works on physical objects so even that doesn’t make much sense
Maybe merging it with AFO'S quirk could cause it to start seeing quirks as physical things. Think of it like energy-bending in Avatar:The Last Airbender
Not that I endorse DFO personally, but how a quirk would work as a combination of Inko's and AFO'S quirks is interesting
@@talphazero1036 plus her quirk specificaly atracts small objects, so maybe it could take quirks from distance but have a limit of how many can be taken from distance at once due to a virtual size they have
One of Deku’s defining traits are that he isn’t a chosen one, hell, OFA to its core came from two rather unimpressive abilities, none of the OFA users were anything special until it stored enough power to beat AFO through this network of heroic people with a will to do good, making him a chosen one goes completely against OFA’s nature
yep, he isnt the chosen one, just that he was the one chosen.
Kinda I mean we know it literally anyone else got Ofa they would die from it lmao
@@invictus6176not literally anyone. It just had to be a quirkless person
@@YogoBites obviously but we’ve only ever seen 3 other quirkless people in the series one of which is All Might
That's debatable
Giving Midoriya a father was entirely pointless. Honestly could have just written him as dead and Inko is a widow that lived off his life insurance or something
or, or, they could just... made him have a dad in the same way he has a mom. as in, he shows up every once and again, just to show that he exists before going back into irrelevancy... not every hero need to be an orphan.
You know what would be funny if Deku and His mom were regularly calling his dad off screen. I mean whenever Deku and His mom talk about his dad they aren't sad or angry. They just bring it up casually.
@@marcosdheleno nah, he's a shounen protagonist therefore he is by laws of shounen obligated to have a dead and/or absent father. It comes with the territory.
@@theonewayroad3867 Sht,where's my anime story then? I'm over here with my basic as life. I feel cheated.
@@Yourfavoritemess how do you know your not the protagonist of the worlds shittiest shounen ?
I think that to have Deku's father not be AFO but work for him abroad or something would've been more interesting than DFO. Imagine if for this war, AFO called some of his strongest men to Japan, I would've loved to see Hisashi's reaction at his son suddenly becoming the no. 1 target and if he would go through with AFO's instructions or decide to help him with the risk of being killed, since we really don't know how close he is to Deku.
I still wouldn't be completely supporting of this theory either, it's just that if I were to pick between DFO and something like this, I'll choose this.
This is definitely a better theory than DFO ever will be. I actually like it thematically.
To rub even more salt into Izuku's wounds would be interesting. His father helping the No. 1 Enemy, for who knows how long, but probably not doing anything that important. The best one-liner AFO could give to Izuku at this point would be, "Midoriya Izuku, I know your father." And then give a specific comment about what country or place he is at the moment.
Horikoshi not only had the "I am your father" moment between AFO and All Might regarding Tomura, but he also had the opposite "I am your son" moment with Toya and Enji
Not only did Afo already have an "I am your father" type moment like you mentioned but we've also had a more direct parallel from Dabi's dance. Just with the father and son roles being flipped.
I really hoped the DFO theory would die when he started mocking Deku’s lack of power before the vestiges stopped them from stealing OFA, it pretty clearly showed how AFO didn’t have any personal connection to Deku
Yet he interacted now more with Izuku than Shigaraki himself because of this stupid plotline of AFO possessing Shigaraki...
I mean not to defend the DFO theory but DFO being a thing does mean he has to be nice to Deku, especially if he sees Deku's as failed experiment I mean it's implied he did care about Yochi and look how that turned out DFO really doesn't mean he can't be a dick. Again not saying that the theory is plausible but AFO mocking Deku isn't really a smoking gun against it.
The nagging thing about Midoriya's father is his complete absence from the story, aside from a small mention in the very beginning, there is nothing, not a phone call, not a hospital visit, nothing, he simply doesn't exist as a character. So where is he, he is apparently alive and working abroad, but are there no home visits, no attempt at communication with his wife and son at all? As many times as Deku has been hospitalized, he never visits or anything, what kind of father is this? His absence is inexcusable after so long unless he is either dead (which we know he isn't) or unless there is a clear good reason why he is unable to have a direct relationship with Inko and Deku.
If AFO is Deku's father, it would explain his absence and why there is no relationship between them, but then it opens up a whole other can of worms. Like how and why AFO got with Inko, how much does she know, what were AFO's intentions in having a child, why abandon said child when clearly he gathers other children to use as pawns and materials for experiments, and so on.
If Deku's father will be "revealed", as in a character we have already met but don't know it yet, then who would it be other than AFO? All Might? Aizawa? That would be even more ridiculous!
I think Dad For One could work out if it was handled right, but the way the story has been deteriorating lately that doesn't seem likely anymore. Because if it isn't AFO, then why bother with any of this mystery at all? Why keep his father a secret for so long if it was going to be a surprise and big development on the story? At this point it would be better to just have Hisashi never show up at all and forget about him, make it a dead plot point.
@SirReepicheep Rules
maybe deku's dad is just following the trend of being a japanese business man , and taking his work over sea's too seriously, that he basically has not talked deku in an while , his name is seriously means it been a long time.
@@chongwillson972 Bruh, he's son nearly died several times. It's not a real trend, it's fictional lazy trope. Any kind of father would get in contact, either out of his own interest or in concern.
@@chongwillson972 my brother in christ,deku clashing with shiggy is basically shaking the planet and determining the fate of humanity,where is my man?😂😂
@@amogus1415busy being a wage slave in his cage
7:52 that’s very funny now that we know Geten is a cousin of Rei
I had to bump the playback to 0.75 because of the speed you were speaking, but it's admittedly a tiny nitpick compared to the rest of the video, which is fire in terms of pacing, content and editing. Glad there's a comprehensive video on this topic in particular.
Funny how I watched it at 1.25 speed😂
Been trying to blitz videos faster so I can watch more, and found out pretty quick I don't miss out on any of the content by speeding up most videos to 1.25, 1.5, 1.75 or even 2x speed. Nothing against CZcamsrs or this guy, it's just something I do for my own enjoyment
If AFO is Deku’s dad, I’ll seriously be disappointed
One theory i was intrigued by was Denki being the UA traitor. There was a lot of hints leading to it, mainly through denki’s quirk, electrification. And then the traitor was randomly Aoyama?
Aoyama being the traitor has had numerous hints throughout the story like when was noticeably absent from USJ attack and Dabi purposely ignoring him during the training camp. He was not actively trying to help AFO or hurt the heroes which is why is was dormant for so long after Kamino, because despite his role, he really did want to be a hero, but he was stuck in a difficult situation that he couldn't get out of. Aoyama was by no means randomly the traitor, but it was plot point that had to be addressed because it was canonically critical to the story.
the only possible hint to it being denki was, as you said, his quirk-specifically his quirks very big drawbacks. but this is also sort of confirmation bias like dfo, as its the only possible 'hint' for him being a possible traitor. the aoyama reveal was VERY hinted towards almost as much as dabi being toya. his hero name, his abscene/distance in situations like USJ etc, his entire character in the school festival arc, how he always eats alone, dabi spotting him in the training camp but very quickly dismissing him, etc. it was not random at all
If this theory actually happens I’m gonna laugh so much on the timeline bruh
My take is that either he was supposed to be his father or there was open window for such possibility during early stages of MHA. But as story took it's course, plan was either dropped or never went beyond mere possibility.
Really great video Asa! The editing was top notch and added a lot imo.
I do wonder who deku's dad is but NOTHING points to it being one for all, and it doesn't seem like an interesting development.
Dabi's origin was basically known by all before the official reveal and it was fantastic, one for all being izuku's father would just be confusing.
I personally enjoy the DFO theory alot I dont think it'd harm the story much, but this video has a lot of good points tho.nice vid Asa 👌🏿
Idk they gave us some solid points to believe he wouldn't be the father, thinking otherwise without cluse is just doing mental gymnastics, hell endever has a better chance of being revealed as his dad
@@dream6562 it’s still fun to speculate, I’m not betting money on it, I’m just saying “what if”
It’s not that I was super hardcore on this theory, just thought it would be a bit interesting and slightly funny/shocking if it happened. However, watching you explain everything in a great way kinda made me think “wow that would actually be dogshit and ruin two insanely important characters”. Great vid! (Also Odd Future imo)
Great video ! The funny thing is, while I think Dad for One is likely to happen, I don't disagree with most of what you said. I used to really like the theory back then but now that we are in end game and there's not been all the things I thought we would get before any dad for one reveal, I agree it would be challenging for Horikoshi to make it work.
Imagine All for one being Deku's Father and when asked why he says smiling, "I just wanted to clap".
Not English native, what does clap mean in this context ?
@@aikotitilai3820 To have intercourse. Sex.
@@aikotitilai3820 sex
@aikotitilai3820 "I just wanted to clap" = "I just wanted to have sex with your mother", tf2 spy type shit
Glad someone finally said it, this theory is so abysmal
It’s really not abysmal…it actually make sense.
@@mae4life527 lmao 🤣 😂 😆 💀
@@samuelG009 ?
@@mae4life527 💀💀💀💀
This is a phenomenal, succinct video on DFO Asa. You brought up so much info together in one spot (a lot of facets to the theory I've forgotten/never thought about) that I feel like a sudden expert on the topic lol. Great work! Can't wait for AFO to reveal he is Endeavor's dad next chapter or whatever
This is a really good and well-thought video!! I enjoyed watching
Theres also the fact shigaraki was meant to be the next all for one
AFO directly said he wanted Shig to grow in all the ways he did in act 2 of the story myself included. He wanted him to get allies, become stronger and hate more. So even striking out he was still following the script AFO wrote for him. So why would he need deku to become the next him while he outright has shigaraki
Hell the shigaraki persona WAS made by afo so again why.would.he.need.deku
afo doesn't want or need deku to become the next him tho?? he wants deku because deku has ofa which is connected to afo's younger brother, and afo believes if he has ofa, he can bring back yoichi. sooo, nothing changes in the dfo theory still
7:52 this one aged like milk I guess?
i was still right tho
@@AsarathaHSYT yeah
when it comes to why izuku would care if all for one was his father- it would simply be that ALL FOR ONE IS HIS FATHER, izuku's whole character is 'you can be more than you start as' and if he started as the son of the worst villain in human history he may have a moment of doubt, something that could truly turn the tide of the second war, plus image if you'd spend your while life wanting to be a hero, told by everyone you couldn't be a hero, finally prove your worth only to find out that the man you were always told was a innocent and loving man, was the worse villain, and the man you were DESTINED to fight as you inherited a power from that SAME MAN'S RIVAL!? dude it doesn't matter izuku's connection or love for his father- if everything knew about him was an f-ing lie and that the man possibly tricked his mother, or that he may never be a hero due to his heritage
What if vigilantes gave us the answer. What if it's not afo and rather it's one of the experiments 1-5. Number 6 shows us that they can look and act like normal humans. One just went rogue
Also because I'm pretty sure Midoriya knows what his own father looks like, lol.
1.)All for one got his head smashed. It'd be impossible for that walking patoato to jog a memory. 2.)Pretty sure Dekus dad has been gone for awhile. Depending on when he left,he likely wouldn't remember. (Not supporting the theory,just reasoning with that part)
Question: What do you think Deku's father being revealed is going to do for Deku as a character?
Personally I think Deku's dad being revealed would honestly highlight or show the genesis of Deku's self destructive tendencies and low self worth, which would snap him out of it and fully embrace the help of others and emotionally open up as a character about his feelings of himself, his dad and others
I highly doubt that it would ever happen, Horikoshi had multiple opportunities to introduce him prime example being the dark Deku arc but never did...I really like the idea of some random nobody having the biggest impact in the story
Awesome as always. Keep up the good work
1:34 “just it being a troll seems to shallow”
1:42 “created six nine…”
I don’t know… it might be just an epic troll.
MHA was never a literary masterpiece, but the latest manga arc makes me think that the DfO is creeping ever closer.
The pineapple clone with the real pineapple voice over it took me out 🤣, well done burrito dog 🤝🏾
I definitely agree with you, even though Horikoshi is an obvious big fan of Star Wars, I still have doubts on the thought of AFO being Izuku’s father, cus Hisashi was in America…so there’s nothing that everyone else could think about lol
Now that we know what afo looks like
He looks more like muscular mixed with all might body
Basically nothing like deku
If afo really isn't Deku's dad then what was the point of not giving Hisashi any appearances in the story whatsoever? Making him the generic absent father adds nothing.
Not trying to rag on Hori or anything, but would it really have been *that* hard to occasionally draw ONE character and give them a few appearances throughout the series?
Bakugo's dad appeared a few times, and so has Ochako's.
Why not Hisashi?
Sometimes making a person conspicuously absent from the story is the whole point. It makes it more realistic. If Deku truly was from a not-high class family Quirkwise (unlike the Todoroki family for example), wouldn't it be possible to also have a not-high class story for his family too? His father is simply that, an absentee father.
The closest we get to an All For Son would be Monoma. Though if that were the case, I can see why AFO abandoned him.
Kendo instantly KOs Monoma.
AFO: I can't believe he's blood.
monoma really is the discount afo, but that's why I love him.
Side-note: Afo trying to create another him only to create a hero loving kid who's seen as villianeous because of his quirk is pretty ironic, and I'd give something for monoma to do other than be aizawa stand-in.
While I do agree with you that the theory isn’t that good, I do want to add that another important theme in My Hero Academia (at least how I see it) is legacy and passing the torch.
In that regard, making AFO Deku’s dad could provide some interesting commentary on that theme, in addition to the Todoroki family. Because, whether he likes it or not, a piece of All For One, his legacy, will be carried on through Izuku by his blood. This was already touched on with the Todoroki family of course but this could be a different scenario.
Also, from a narrative sense, other than Deku, this would have an interesting effect on heroes and society. What if your greatest hero was the child of the greatest villain. That would bring some further unrest to society and make some people paranoid that this is still all according to AFO’s plan. Too late in the story for that but eh… would have been somewhat interesting.
13:26 but.... He did the same thing with Aizawa's quirk :/
He tried to get it once but never tried ever again after the first plan failed
when?
@@ProjektTaku He tried to steal erasure 15 years ago (mentioned by Garaki and shown in Vigilantes), but after failing to steal it, he completely stopped trying to get it.
@@ProjektTaku To be even more precise, the accident I'm talking about is the same accident where Oboro died, but it wouldn't make much sense for (what should be his character) him to give up after getting one quirk since he "He can't help but take quirks"
@@justcallmetheguywhocomments yes, but how do you know he gave up? Up his goal could've switched.
@@ProjektTaku He said himself that whenever he sees a good quirk he can't help but take it, so switching goals when he made an entire plan to steal a good quirk wouldn't make sense (if his character already made sense)
Ok, but you forget to mention that when afo is fighting all might he say "You gave the quirk to Izuku midoria right? He came to you *completely unqualified*
How did he know? Hmmm....
maybe the doctor told him
@@coca_0146 Then how would the Doctor know about Deku having One For All.
@@luishernandezsoto he saw a powerless kid, then this same kid sudently has a power that works in a similar way to Allmight's, screams SMASH when punching something and enters in U.A in the same year that Allmight starts teaching there. I honestly can't see how he wouldn't know.
@@coca_0146 I see your point.
@@luishernandezsoto thanks, i see your point too, it can happen but i don't think it will.
I've actually seen fan arts about this "theory", but I thought it meant as a fanfic Alternate Universe idea, not a serious one where it coincedes with the official story. Some people are crazy 💀
Come on, that's pretty tame for the MHA fandom
7:53- dude,you totally called it
Actually Deku does have a combination of his parents’ quirks. The mother can attract small objects and the father can use fire. Deku attracts hot things lol
People really saw that locations had star wars references in the names and decided the entire plot would be the same
I personally like the theory that all for one is his dad but he just stole his quirk then left. I mean it would be hilarious if all for one went around and just made children like he is breeding in pokemon then steals theit quirks then just gets the hell out of there. Heck maybe the reason 20% of the people being born quirkless is because all for "daddy" just got all the bitches.
I want this theory to be true just so I could see everyone's reaction.
Well me who hates that theory, and some one who really loved mha until the third act, my reaction would be to burst out laughing so fucking hard.
I want the next thing AFO to say in the manga to be something like "My gift to you, Midoriya Izuku, is a potato." Then Izuku appears and flies right into a potato/rock being chucked into his face.
I actually have a few candidates that might be Dekue's father.
1 Slide and Glide
2 Endeavor
3 Ereaser Head
4 Erie's father
5 Virgin convinced by an unknown power
I'm very late to the party so please forgive me. I actually made a comment on one of the Dad For One videos featured here, explaining my thoughts and ideas for the theory. I agree with you, at this late in the game doing a All For One is Deku's long lost dad is not a terrible idea that could ruin the story, but to me theories are just a fun way of doing what ifs. In regards to the theory itself and my comment, I won't go over it word for word here but my general consensus was All For One used the name "Hisashi" as an alias to hide his identity. He and Deku's mom's meet was completely coincidental, in my opinion, so no elaborate plan to breed a mini AFO, just two people who met and fell in love. Honestly if Deku was AFO's kid i would think he would have some mutant hybrid Quirk and not just an All For One variant. I suggested in my comment that AFO may have wanted to give Deku a Quirk when the news came that he was Quirkless because he's the Dark Emperor who can do anything, a living god on earth, his son must have a power of his own. So why didn't he? I doubt it was because he was a failure like the Todorokis, it could have been as simple as Deku's mom talking him out of doing it, probably knowing the secret of her husband's identity and the side effects of his Quirk. As I said in my comment, AFO is a monster who thrives on chaos and destruction, but at the end of the day and at his core he is a human being. He's just as capable of anger, love, compassion, and hatred as you or me. Ultimately, he couldn't stay with his family and had to leave them for their own good. Think of how much danger they would be in if he were to stay. I know this is a long comment and sorry about that, I just like talking about this theory from time to time. Your video made me look at the theory in a different lense so thank you!
it would be interesting if he was a failed experiment to create a strong telekinesis quirk
That could happen.
1. AFO could have disguised himself as Hisashi Midoriya to hide from the cops and Pro Heroes.
2. Knowing him, he most likely has a fire breathing Quirk in his arsenal, which he mainly uses as Hisashi Midoriya to hide his true identity.
3. As you said, Horikoshi references Star Wars a LOT.
This theory _could_ be possible, but again, it couldn't. Let's wait and see once the series ends.
Thank fucking you
I think this'll be my go-to video each time I dread DFO is coming a bit too much
You know I'd like to believe that Horikoshi would never do something as stupid as make AFO Midoria's Father. However, I'm reminded of Naruto and another ridiculous theory that proved true. That theory was Tobi and Obito being one and the same. There was NOTHING in the story or timeline that could remotely suggest that Obito and Tobi were one and the same. I remember people arguing how stupid that was and how that would totally undue the character of Kagashi not to mention all the gaps and questions about how he managed to recover from having one side of his body completely crushed (including his brain) having that side replaced with synthetic whatever, recovering inside of a year and a half, while somehow training in that same space to be good enough to take on Naruto's dad one on one and somehow control the 9 tails. That cockamamie theory no matter how illogical it was turned out to be correct. Us haters who rejected such a stupid theory got served. I stopped reading Naruto as soon as that plot twist was revealed...
After ch 423
It was sweet how his son made Afo realize that his brother was who he cared about and got to spend his last moments together
Honestly, it's waaaay too late to pull DFO twist when nothing has set up for it unlike the "Dabi is Touya" reveal that was clearly set up since the start (how Dabi was first shown during the news of Stain's "arrest" by Endeavor, the interesting way Dabi called Shouto in the forest, the similar way Dabi and Endeavor's flames ignites, etc etc)
The only way to make Dad For One not good awful is if when Deku has Afo on the ropes, Afo lies about being Deku's dad just to get a cheap shot off and run away. Afo feels like the type of guy to just make shit up to win so it makes sense with his character.
The only way to do it seriously though would be if Horikoshi was trying to do a scene like in the end of the first Raimi Spiderman movie where Peter renounces the Goblin one last time. But this still wouldn't work cause like, there's literally no reason for Deku to join Afo or side with him or even sympathize with him.
Idk what I love more, the theory itself or how mad it makes people.
You know what? I'm still gonna write DFO. And I'm gonna write him like an immortal comic book nerd that hits a level of surprisingly good parent that is only roamed by Lucifer from Hazbeen Hotel
The best theory you mean 😈
No
@@AgentNero9 Nero! My friend, did you watch the playlist?
@@rizaadon weirdchamp
@@rizaadon what playlist?
@@AgentNero9 it's a playlist that has some videos that cover why I think MHA's writing has gone down in quality. You replied to my comment in another video, on the season 6 trailer I think but maybe my comment isn't visible because of the link.
The moment I dread if this is going to happen lol.
Just imagine the community reaction 🤣
@@rizaadon
Just imagine my love of the series being dropped if Dad for One gets revealed. That one moment will actually be my reason to drop it.
@@jdellabeat6245 I wouldn't blame you. At this point I just feel disappointed. The series had a lot more potential, yet it's rushing to it's end, and in such a way that it destroys many plot points and even characters.
The thumbnail is gold 😭
how about AFO is All Mights dad
plot twist
I’d like All For One to tell Deku: “Can you really kill me, I am your father after all” when he’s on deaths door.
And then Deku freezes for a second, shakes it off and just shouts, “who cares” and smashes him in the face.
Because it so fantastically subverts expectations, and is in line with Deku’s more mature personality.
subverting expectations does not autometicaly makes it good, AFO knowing Deku is his kid and never trying to use it for his advantage would make him look stupid.
@@coca_0146 maybe he’s saving it for a moment when he really needs it.
I don’t even see why people want this theory to be true. After Dabi/Endeavor and Shigaraki/Nana, do we really need another family tree reveal?
"deku, I am your father"
"lol OK"
he is unique the fact he was quirkless is why he could use all 6 quirks
No it isn't. If that was the case All Might would've been able to use the previous users quirks as well. Being quirkless just allowed Deku and All Might to have a normal lifespan while holding OFA. The 4th user died at age 40 and that was with a far weaker version of OFA than Deku's. If Deku had a quirk and got OFA he probably would've been dead within a year. Deku is allowed to use the previous users quirks because the previous users believe that Deku will be the last holder so they're allowing him full access to everything.
I think the reason why Deku's dad has never shown up is the same reason why the Pokemon player character usually doesn't have a dad-some Japanese culture thing I don't understand properly
My personal theory is there a bunch of forshadowing for who izuku's dad is throughout the series that will all be exposed in the last or second to last chapters
As much as i love all for one as a villain
I HATE the theory
It wouldnt make me drop the series obviously but it Will put a bad taste in My mouth
I Will still think mha is pretty good manga and anime but ill hate that part of the series and story that i still think is great
am thankfull you made this video
Eh ive read some good stories where AFO is Izuku's father. I agree it wouldn't work in MHA especially since the Dabi plot line covers the family tragedy arc so well but they're still fun to read.
0:12 Dabi literally is Touya confirmed
it was sarcasm. dabi being touya is considered to be one of the most obvious plot twists/reveals in mha so it was sarcasm
Totally a surprised Pikachu moment 😆 🤣 😂
It was a fun theory during MHA first few years, what with all the Star Wars references. However the more time when on, the more it just grew less and less likely.
The thumbnail is my favorite HAHA
why did they kill shigiraki? WHYYYY
Inko would never
I truly do think that Hisashi is just a regular ass guy
but dabi is touya
thats the joke
It doesn't mathemathically makes sense, Lets say All For One really was Midoriya's father, He left him before Midoriya could have a memory meaning it was between 0-3 years old, Now after he left him he aged a little and then found shiggy and adopted him, When he adopted shiggy shiggy was five, I say shiggy as a short to shigaraki because I don't have that much free time but anyways, If shiggy was adopted when he was five and that was after Midoriya was born that means the age gap between shiggy and Midoriya is 2 years by the theory. Now we all know that's not true, That's why the theory cannot be true. Sorry to break it to y'all but if you like dramatic twists of "I am your father" just go to star wars.
My mha related question is when is the catboy cosplay
Aired g
Oh, I know the comment section on this video gonna go crazy if Hori does confirm it. With AFO heading to UA soon, we will find out soon enough
you know one of the similar reveal that works?
Kenjaku`s revealed to be Yuji`s mom/dad
it ties many question on why yuji is different from any normal kid.
why he can contains sukuna
and kenjaku even aknowledged that yuji is his son and ... so what? nothing changed
The pic at the end is so real
Honestly the biggest evidence for this theory is Izuku’s extra toe joint. Dr. Garaki, being the Doctor for AfO, would know his child wouldn’t have to lie about the toe joint, except for Hisashi not being a first gen Quirk user. But this immediately presents the problem of why Garaki didn’t help Izuku because he’s AfO’s son? Even the best evidence for DfO comes with issues from it being concrete.
GOOOOO ASA!!!
I wonder how important his dad will be if he's showing up so late in the series
I'm open minded but if this theory is true and dad for one isn't true I still like the idea and will probably still search for things like that because one it's not a real world so I can't hurt anyone and two because it's fun to think about and it's fun to imagine so it not being real isn't really a bad thing but if it does turn out to be real I'll be super happy also I don't really care dad for one is the best fan base / theory / alternate universe.
Also, the whole all for one gave shigaraki decay, makes no sense in the mindset of, I can kill anyone by touching them so no one can really harm. Decay is busted in the sense that it doesn't matter how powerful you are, as long as my quirk can touch you, you'll be turned too dust, insta win against all might.
1:30 "To simply sow the seeds of chaos." That's one way of phrasing it...
Only connection theory between AFO and Midoriya I fw, is that Deku is quirkless because AFO stole it.
I've read a few good fanfics, the best AFO is actually g randpa. But seriously, AFO is supposed to be a couple centuries old, why would he wait until now to have a child?
arguments for dad for one: it would be pretty sick tho
To be fair, I still believe the dabi is touya theory was more insane.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was revealed that AFO created quirks at this point.
Why is MHA better than Demon Slayer? And MHA > DS is a fact.
Wait a second at 4:37 you talk about how there’s a 4 year gap between shigiraki and deku finding out he’s quirkless. However wouldn’t all for one instantly know he’s child is quirkless upon birth because of the extra toe bone and not being able to steal the quirk. And if that’s the case it’s actually fits the timeline really well. All for one tried having his own kid to pass on his quirk but it failed so he wanted to take his anger and use it against nanas family.
Inko was just a side pice they where just casualy fucking.
Now the fact that All for one is actually Tomas grandfather by managing to sleep with Nana somehow is undeniably fact and cannot be disproven.
Really enjoyed the video (and the Re:Zero ones are excellent as well)! You laid out the exact reasons why I've never liked this as a concept. It has always felt cheap and unnecessary.
As for my question: how do you feel about MHA Vigilantes, if you have read? I enjoyed it quite a bit and always find it a shame that it's not discussed all that much.