Why are New Series Daleks bronze?
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Have you ever wondered why bronze was chosen as the primary colour for the Daleks in the New Series?
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I don’t think it needs an overhaul, all it needs is a few more variants to keep things interesting. Alternate color schemes for important individuals, different arm attachments like the Chibnall Daleks, more of that sort of thing.
Definitely, I always think that say alternate color schemes are a good idea but not too many, not like rainbowy. Black, Red, Blue are fine with me.
Agreed. They should just change up the color schemes like they did with the classic props over the years.
It’s funny how the permanent Daleks designs changed pretty much every episode in the classic era, but the bronze ones have been almost unchanged since 2005.
I think the negative reaction to the paradigm daleks spooked them into not taking many risks, which is a shame because I always thought the paradigm daleks were underrated.
I was gutted that The Paradigm Daleks never properly got their chance. I still await their return!
Agreed. I always thought that the Paradigm Daleks could've been an overarching antagonist group, with a couple at a time being encountered in their own story, driving the plot of that episode to further a plan that the Supreme Paradigm Dalek had in place to rebuild the Dalek Empire. The Red Drone and Blue Strategist encountered together on a planet, the yellow Eternal and orange Scientist on another, with the White Supreme being the one behind the scenes orchestrating the creation of the Dalek Parliament.
Something like that, to have a Strategist, a Drone, an Eternal, (whatever that would've been) and Scientist Dalek be at the head of their own contingent of Bronze Soldier Daleks, I dunno if that sounds stupid, but I would've liked to see that if it was done right.
@@darkarpatron That sounds like a great idea. The Dalek animated series from Time Lord Victorious did something similar with their Daleks, each one had a distinct personality and motivation
you're gonna be waiting for a while, 'cause according to the lore, they're all *dead.*
@@christopherbravo1813 you forget about the Eternal. the yellow one.
@@trackmastertheman7801 I think he's dead too.
As much as I love the New Series Daleks, I’m starting to get fed up with the same design over and over again
I love the bronze. It has such a heavy metal look to it and somehow makes them look timeless, I can't explain it. I'd argue the bronze design is the best, just based on how hard of a time people have trying to improve on it. It just works so well. And who's gonna say they look dated? They're clearly battle hearned mini tanks with a gear of evil within. It's perfect.
The Time War design and bronze colour scheme are fantastic, and the blue eye compliments them well, I'd be more than happy for RTD to continue using them.
The Dalek design hardly changed in Classic Who, only the colour, so that's all that would need to change now to be fresh.
The daleks in classic who changed every episode.
@@JRHainsworth Apart from the base in Invasion of Earth and getting slats in The Chase, the design never changed, only the colour.
@@10thdoctor15 And the fender, gun, eyestak and domelights. Voices too.
@@JRHainsworth They are hardly the main design. The Paradigm Daleks and Defense Drones were completely different, almost unrecognisable.
Honestly I kinda love the idea of Variants being explored more
I’m always and forever a massive fan of the bronze design! I’ll also be accepting of design changes. But whatever they do, I need them to NOT do what they did with the bronze daleks, which is insert them into previous eras of the past when the Daleks had older styles of casings without clearly explaining why, like Prisoner of the Daleks, etc. It’s pretty easy to put together that the bronze casing was scattered into the past by the time war and the past Daleks retrofitted it, but. If there’s going to be a new design, the Doctor should still be encountering the occasional bronze Daleks when they travel back in time to an era in Dalek history when they used the bronze casings. I don’t think my heart can handle a complete aesthetic timeline re-write😅
I think the imperial daleks faction should make a return, if the doctor goes back to that era or the imperial daleks come to the future, i think thatd be really cool if the imperials came back
A race as advanced as the Daleks should always be upgrading there casing, and a time traveler like the doctor would be more likely to encounter there primitive looks. The time war daleks are infamous but we’re more than ready fora new standard for the species!
There’s a miryiad of direction they can make said changes, but I think a sense of versatility in there abilities and more hints of their organic nature would be a cool route personally!
Personally, I would like to see a new look for the Daleks, I think that the bronze design has been around long enough and it would be nice to see something new
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I do prefer The bronze Daleks over The Grey Daleks, it's more appealing to the eyes, in the classic series it was more like 50 shades of grey until the Necros and Imperial Daleks came alone.
17 years of bronze Daleks that's quite an achievements for any Dalek colour scheme to date.
We've gotta change the colours, it's very bland and boring now plus the weathering doesn't get added now
@@theentity5201 I miss the weathering they look less realistic without it
The issue with changing the design, is that they'll likely mess it up again. So it's probably better to retain this style and maybe make slight deviation such as Time Controllers, Overseers, Time Strategists, Praetorians, Kill Squads, Supreme and so on moving forward. Like maybe a revamped Heavy Weapons Dalek.
I don't know about it being the final form of the Daleks but for me it is the apex design of the Daleks. Maybe do a classic colouring on this design for an episode?
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1.36K subscribers As much as I really really really enjoy seeing the Bronze Daleks appearing, however I think there needs to be more than just Bronze colored Soldier Daleks in my opinion. I really want to see Daleks in different variety of color schemes to indicate ranks as for example with the Paradigm Daleks [who all have very nice color schemes and design styles in my opinion] and Supreme Daleks, who all come in various color schemes [usually in Black, sometimes Gold, and even sometimes Red, but rarely do we see them come in a nice and beautiful White color scheme too].
I would love a redesign of the imperial daleks from remembrance to appear. Like the current design but with fewer, smoother slats and disclights instead of domes or lamps. The green POV shots need to come back as well!
Havin seen the Time War Daleks painted in classic Dalek colours they look great. I'd love to see these in a series.
The Power Of The Daleks fanfilm had 00s Daleks in the 60s colour scheme
Would like to see this design in classic grey colours but commanders and special units standing out. With the dalek bumps and trims in colour rank.
I adore the Bronze Dalek design so much, I genuinely think it's one of the best redesigns of all time, however I do also really want to see some new designs or variations, probably not replacing the Bronze Daleks as I don't really see how it can be topped, but existing aloneside them, similar to the Paradigm Daleks in Asylum of the Daleks, or the reconnaissance Dalek and Security Drones
In the amount of time we've had the Time War design, classic who went from the Dead Planet daleks to Destiny of the Daleks, 8 changes in design.
Wouldn’t mind some new colour schemes for individuals. The death squad and executioner Daleks should have had unique colouring
I would love an update, I love the bronze Daleks and I think bronze lends itself well on screen to looking like genuine metal rather than plastic which was the biggest problem I had with the chonky lads but with the new budget I feel like they could create some really great looking modern designs that bring back alternative colour schemes and fresh design ideas
I think a new color scheme would be really nice, if not a totally new design. I loved the "Defense Drone" style Daleks, just because they were something new. I love the bronze Daleks, it was a bold choice and it's become absolutely iconic. But, as time goes on I think it's become a bit stale. The Daleks are overdue for a facelift. I think something based upon either the silver Daleks of the 60s or the gunmetal grey Daleks of the 70s and 80s would be nice. I also think there needs to be more variety. Dalek leaders are usually distinct, but haven't been lately. It doesn't have to be as overt as the Paradigm Daleks, but a clear visual hierarchy would be nice. Black has always worked for leader Daleks, maybe that could return in some way.
I think they should be able to make their lens smaller, for added emotion. I feel like I remember in a very old episode seeing Daleks that could change the size of the open lens for added dramatic effect when speaking. Just imagine a Daleks approaches you, looking you up and down and then giving a squint. I'd be terrified.
Edit:
Saw one of your other videos which confirmed my memory was somewhat accurate. I didn't know the new design could change their pupil, but it never seemed obvious at least to me.
I like the gold and bronze daleks and would hate for them to change them!
Please ask Russell T Davies to keep them!
I for one feel they look fine, design wise I'm happy with it. I feel it's a bit better then the constant change in prop design throughout the Classic Era, not that, that was anything bad of course as it was always interesting to see. Maybe just a change in colour scheme is what is needed, adding variations.
Like new attachments, colour schemes like say the Axis Squad Daleks design which looks really, really good in my opinion. Otherwise I feel the design works fine for the Daleks right now.
It bugs me that the Daleks POV during 13th's era is no longer blue, like it is in series 1, despite the eye still being blue...
I think if the daleks get a recolor/redesign, I would be down for the headpiece of the paradigm daleks mounted the bronze base and painted grey
I personally think that the daleks could do with an update with a few changes and even slight pallet change if not utilize parts of the community such as fam art for inspiration and to flush out or widen the dalek design, utilize several or more unique or specialized daleks like a dalek controller where it replaces the gun stick for a claw or plunder to have multiple access to different components or computers, or even things like non combat daleks like dalek engineers or dalek scientists, as well as say a anti personal dalek equipped with flamethrowers and one where it’s replaces the massive cannon for a massive chest mounted mini gun and so on, even making use of some of the more antiquated or older dalek models such as the skaro degradation such as the gliders or crawlers, whilst daleks are ruthless and fun to watch, they’ve lost their teeth so to speak, they’re just your typical bad guy with a scheme rather than say gun down a bunch of people or being individually smart and whilst they are pro dominantly a hive mind so creativity is surely lacking, but that doesn’t mean that individual daleks whilst emotionless can’t have say individual personalities as well as individual intelligence, and again it’s sad that we’re so use to the daleks what again they are fantastic and my personal favorites but again they’ve lost their ruthlessness streak as well as their character where outside of victory of the daleks and stolen earth are the two times oh and daleks in manhattan were the only times daleks were truly aw inspiring and utterly ruthless, parting of ways was good, but much like the daleks in manhattan they weren’t actual daleks so to speak but were a more intelligent form, plus I’d love to see them do more destruction on a planetary scale
Yes I believe its time for a change. This armor was created by davros for the time war and though it makes the daleks very powerful I feel like it's getting a bit boring seeing this design over and over, even more so because as this prop is used for high ranking daleks aswell. I'd love to see the blue and silver daleks return or a new version of a bronze dalek! Just something different.
I like the idea of having the Paradigm Daleks as high ranking members among the bronze Daleks.
Maybe Drone Daleks lead squads of bronze Daleks, a Strategist Dalek or two command bronze Daleks to strategize attacks, Scientist Daleks lead scientific operations including technological and genetic research, the Eternal Dalek is in command of time travel missions and conquests, with the Supreme Dalek being the leader.
I never saw the New Paradigm as replacement designs but high ranking Daleks given unique designs. I didn’t even know that they were supposed to become the main design.
I like the more fleshy looking eyestalk, the neck piece, and the rest of the eyestalk design.
As much as I like the bronze, I would admittedly like to see the Daleks in a new colour skim.
Take a bronze Dalek. give it the eyestalk, vents, and midsection of a Paradigm Dalek (perhaps with some of that rough metal mesh you see on early Dalek inside the midsection cutaway), and then take the front right and front left panels of the base and replace them with two slats like what the Paradigm had on their back where alternate weapons and manipulators can be stowed, or include a smaller slat on the back of the midsection and take advantage of the Dalek being able to rotate it's midsection around to access different tools, the Swiss army Dalek.
Then give it silver paint job with blue details on the bumps but with a good eye light with the horizontal slit like the Paradigm did, a really sinister voice like the Time Strategist, and the personality of the 7th doctor at his most Machiavellian wile maintaining the arrogant hatred that is the core of all Dalek.
Better yet, have it deride the Time War survivors as degenerates, the New Dalek Empire as apocalypticists, and the New Paradigm as cowards. Have this new Dalek be a conqueror who wants to do more than just exterminate everything, but be the supreme form of life in the universe, and for that they need lessers to subjugate and torment
It actually does flow on from the Imperial Dalek scheme, and so you can imagine these are the descendents of that faction.
I always thought that the Paradigm Daleks could've been an overarching antagonist group, with a couple at a time being encountered in their own story, driving the plot of that episode to further a plan that the Supreme Paradigm Dalek had in place to rebuild the Dalek Empire. The Red Drone and Blue Strategist encountered together on a planet, the Yellow Eternal and Orange Scientist on another, with the White Supreme being the one behind the scenes orchestrating the creation of the Dalek Parliament.
Something like that, to have a Strategist, a Drone, an Eternal, (whatever that would've been) and Scientist Dalek be at the head of their own contingent of Bronze Soldier Daleks, I dunno if that sounds stupid, but I would've liked to see that if it was done right.
Call me a madman or whatever, but I wouldn't mind a sort of hybrid combination Classic Who, New Who and Paradigm Dalek designs. The image I have in my head will lead too a long ass comment of explaining the visuals of this idea of mine but in very broad strokes; the height and arm rail of the Paradigm Daleks, the bronze and gold color of the New Who Daleks for standard infantry Daleks only, and the colorful designs and more calm voice of Classic Who Daleks.
in the novel Killing Ground there were cyborgs called Bronze Knights created using captured Cyberman technology
This I think is the final look to the main force of the daleks, maybe a few tweaks are required but only really in relation to different coloured domes for higher dalek ranks, I think the paradigm should come back the way they appeared in asylum, as an advanced dalek force only summoned for high priority assignments like the dalek asylum, the flux would've been another good place for such a force... I don't think there should be a complete overhaul, I'd rather new daleks came to be treated how I imagine the paradigms return should be or how the recon daleks were treated, I'd also like to see a recon special unit in the dalek ranks
I love the bronze I would say because they were in the time war
This design is the best just leave em
We need to make Sec’s black casing the standard for Dalek officers and not just a one-time distinction.
I like the skinny Drone Daleks or the Defence Drone Dalek.
To me the fact that it's become definitive means that it needs to change, nothing in doctor who should stay the same, which is my issue with the return of David Tennant, it's staying still or even going backwards and refusing to change.
Saying that the bronze design has never been my favourite, they're fine but they've never really clicked.
I have always loved the original sixties design but can’t find anywhere to watch the og Dalek episode from the 1st Doctor’s era
I'd say that the definitive Dalek design was either the original from 1963, or the refurbished Daleks from the 1980s. The bronze Daleks are interesting and nice to look at, but not definitive, IMHO.
Yeah. I think what made the original Daleks so iconic and recognisable were their simple and not overcomplicated design, but also having a wide variety in colour design.
While I grew up with the Bronze Design and loved them, I think it's time for them to revert back to their older and more simple looking design, like a new colour varaint of the 80s daleks, although obviously not identical. That's just me though.
I would love to see the Daleks become metallic blue and silver
No leave the bronze-gold Daleks in dr who it’s the best design
This design of the Daleks is indeed my favourite, as it truly shows that these are indeed mutated creatures filled with extreme hatred for other life in war machines. And furthermore, it's actually earned it's long-running use and doesn't need a real change.
Keep the bronze Dalek body design, make them a bit bigger and add certain features of the Paradigm including the new slanted neck piece, change the plunger into a claw, and make them metallic dark red with a voice similar to Dalek Sec. Also, reintroduce the Special Weapons Dalek both as a (weaker) standard Dalek attachment, as well as a dedicated proper hard-hitting super variant.
In my opinion, they should keep the proportions of these Daleks, maybe scale them up to be taller and threatening, but without the Paradigm's... Significant posterior, shall we say? At the very least, change the colour scheme, if it's going back to the classic gunmetal colour, or even the Imperial design, then have distinct props for the Dalek leadership. The fan edit of the Death Squad Daleks was a great idea, normal Time War design for Drones, and a Paradigm Dalek in not power ranger colours as the commander
I don't think they should change the actual casing of the Daleks. Personally, I really can't imagine how anyone could improve the overall design. That being said, I'm getting a little tired of the color. Yes they don't like individuality and are a heavily militant race, but I think they need a new color scheme. Not to the extent of the Paradigm, but maybe something a little darker and matte. Or maybe have the Bronze Daleks be soldiers and give other Daleks different colors for ranks and specialities.
But that's just my opinion.
I think we need to devolve the design or at least merge classic and modern design’s to create a new Dalek that stands out.
Absolutely needs to change. No more rivets. There is a way to make them look war-fit without making them too earthlike, and that would be a heavy emphasis on flat non-metallic gray-blue color schemes, possibly even matte finish, with a dome more reminiscent of the German WW2 stalhelm helmets, midsection being more refined without the 'box' shaped housings for the weaponry. Also really tired of the square housing for the eyestalk and the 'insignia' bit beneath that...
If anything, the cybermen need a downgrade. Should be more body horror with exposed fabrics and flesh. They're augmented humans with their emotions removed, so if they looked more crude and unsanitary, it would be nice.
I think someone had a surplus of Bronze metallic paint to hand. For the period; it's a good look; But a change is definitely due for the standard Dalek... As for the New Paradigm... metallic colours would have helped alleviate the "Plasticky" look. and a pearlescent white for the Supreme with Black chrome hemispheres would look really smart. That said:; I liked the design and colour choice of the Pseudo Dalek Security units.; but then again, I'm plain weird when it comes to colour schemes. I would like to see an inverted colour scheme of the Necros and Imperial Daleks. Gold with white/ cream rather that white/cream with gold.. Not a fan of the rivets much either.
I think the design should stay although it could change slightly, but id like to see some different colour schemes every once in a while, if youve seen the dr who anime youll know the imperial colour scheme goes beautifully with the new design
Something significant is going to need to take place for a true Dalek redesign, and not just fiddling with their guns, plungers or making variations that are only going to be around for a bit before the true Daleks blast them.
The Cybermen it is almost expected that they keep upgrading and evolving but it is kinda appropriate that the Daleks as adverse to change and deviation as they are stay the same as long as possible, because in their way, Daleks don't change.
Anyway this form was strong enough to defeat the Time lords so unless a new power rises to challenge them they have no reason to change.
And for more IRL reasons the BBC knows this design works, they have worked with it for ages so they are as familiar with it as the Tardis phone box and have making this version down to a fine art (you would hope at least by this point), they got plenty in storage and they are going to be extra apposed to trying a new design given how much folks hated the last attempt.
I’m happy with how they are but more variations like the supreme, the Dalek time controller and other small variations in draughty to indicate rank would be nice, would love to see an emperor dalek like in big finish adapted to new who
I'm dissapointed there havent been more colour scheme variations int hese Daleks, particularly in recent stories
Hard to pin them down in time especially adding a few time wars. The Daleks have gone from brains with clawed hands to blobs to a strange thing looking like a lung with disconnected organs to a blob again to impure versions made out of heads to pure cyborgs to a one eyed octopus.
I think keep the design, but change the color, maybe to the imperial white and gold
Bronze was a good addition.
Consider this. Silver and Blue Time War Daleks.
I prefer the bronze daleks, their colour makes them like supreme masters of earth.
I think the daleks should be like army green
To be honest old who was no different with the gun/mat grey becoming the definitive design baring some special ones to fit the plot, the only changes seen their were mostly due to damage to the prop. So if their wasnt issue with old who keeponf a consistant dalek design i see nothing wrong with new who being like that
If I'm honest, I am very bored with the Time War designs. I was never terribly big on the rivet effect they added on, or all the noises they make when moving.
Design wise, I felt it was a shame they quickly did away with the Paradigms rather then trying a few tweaks to compromise the more controversial aspects. The more subdued colour change was a step in the right direction.
And maybe perhaps get a few new voice actors rather then it just being Briggs all the time.
The Paradine Daleks were an absolute joke. they changed too much. They gave them shoulders! They changed the basic structure too much. Proportionally the bronze Daleks we’re proportionally in the correct design. There are plenty of fan designs in videos and animations on CZcams which I would love to see. I can’t see them really varying that much but I do like the black version of the bronze Daleks. Just avoid the Power Ranger look
Yes, change it. We need green daleks
The Cybermen are hardly the Dalek's rivals. After all, they are superior in only one regard - they are better at dying.
I designed a spy dalek
Hated the Paradigm Daleks! They were just not believable . Always reminded me of the ad for opel/ vauxhall cars
They need to figure out how to write good dalek stories again before they redesign them.
Worst daleks ever