Two Ways to El Presidente - Training Tip from Springfield Armory
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- čas přidán 8. 01. 2017
- Training Tips, Sponsored by Springfield Armory: Jason Burton and Rob Leatham run through two different variations of the popular "El Presidente" drill.
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It’s truly amazing how he makes a 4.83 look effortless. Robbie is the 🐐
Nice variation. I do a drill that is similar, and adds an element of needing to assess and respond during the drill. ... Thanks for the video!
Good stuff. Really liked the close up slo mo of Rob's grip and trigger movement. I was kinda surprised that it looks like his finger comes all the way off the trigger.
That was fun to watch. Yes most upper level shooters do slap the trigger when squeezing for more speed. It can be difficult to do though at longer distance targets and not disturb sight alignment.
you always train to fully come off the trigger. if your pull is disturbing sights you gotta practice more
Rob teaches that slowly releasing the trigger tp reset IS SLOW. Get off the trigger fast and slap it without moving the gun
I entered Rob's score into PractiScore and his hit factor was 11.5942, and assuming single stack (which is Major factor only), his percentage still came to 100.
So Burton combined the Mozambique and EL Prez drill
Jason working for Springfield? Great drills and vid.
The band-aids are a cute touch, like it will help shots
rob makes it look so damn easy.
@Bill Randall Rob put in the work which you would never consider.
I don't agree with not going for time on self defense stuff. Timer induces stress and will make you want to try harder to get it done and more likely to bobble things as well as providing meaningful data he can work to improve on.
If he can make all of those shots clean without stress from a timer I don't see the point in not using a timer.
This s where the old saying "slow is smooth, smooth is fast" comes into play. In a self defense situation the first person to put rounds on target wins not the first person to fire. Train for technique and speed will come naturally, this is true for just about anything not just shooting.
I'm going to be candid and I'm not being aggressive with you but purely with the idea that "smooth is fast" silliness. Smooth is just smooth. Smooth can be slow, and smooth can be fast. Most fast guys will be smooth, but fast can not be smooth sometimes. Developing speed comes from pushing speed, making the wheels come off, forcing your body to process information faster and forcing you to understand where the hiccups in your technique are coming from then addressing them. Speed doesn't necessarily come naturally, in my own training I've had to force it in a lot of instances. Kind of like how most shooters coming from IDPA to USPSA are often significantly slower. They've never forced themselves to be fast.
Speed is fine. Accuracy is final.
A lot of good that's going to do if you could hit someone in between the eyes if they out draw you and put one in your gut and one in a lung. It's not a mutually exclusive relationship, you can have rock solid fundamentals of accuracy AND be fast. Most guys who are legitimately fast - not just having spasms for instagram can do both.
If the object is to be fast and accurate must train with the timer. And whoever said smooth is just smooth not fast is wrong. You must be smooth to be fast.
Smooth purposeful economical movement and accurate shooting will garner you a good time in competitive shooting and if it was a real-world situation best off executing similarly.
I'd love to spend some time on the range just to get pointers from him!
NO PROBLEM!
$500.00 for 30 minutes. IF you happen to catch him at the range, just killing time. Interupting his practice, FORGET IT!
He seems like a really nice guy, but he is a professional earning a living.
What distance? How many yards?
30 feet.
Rob Latham IS 7 time WORLD CHAMPION! And people are on here disputing what he is trying to teach.
OMG, idiots really are taking over!
hi rob .. what's the ideal distance to the target in an el presidente drill? .. thanks
30 ft.
@@trottheblackdog *15
Anyone know what holster Jason is using?
toddjsn 5 shot leather
Yes, we just watched what a Grand Master shooter can do at will.
does every one who shoot 1911 broks the grip for doing a reload ? cause i see that every time , not very good for me
Did I just see him slap the trigger?
Yes. Pro shooters take their fingers off of the trigger to reset them. It is how all great shooters shoot fast. I know how weird it sounds, but it’s the best way to shoot. The key is in the squeeze, but if you ride the reset out that trigger while shooting that fast, you are gonna throw shots. The key to good trigger pull is not “slow stready squeeze” as much as it is pull consistently. John Lovell has a great video on it over in warrior poet society. But I am a sponsored shooter, and I had to learn this technique, and it is what works.
@@xFrontSightPostx pro shooters have multiple levels of trigger control depending on the accuracy requirement of the particular shot. Lovell could never shoot like Rob because he has no clue what trigger control is.
To @@xFrontSightPostx
You are SOOO wrong on SOOO many points. Only thing correct is that "most" top shooters do not ride the trigger to reset.
Before you broadcast your "knowledge", get some.
Second shooter didn't start from the el presidente position though
Is he using his underpowered competition loads?
He said 9mm. And it has to make power factor for USPSA. Most commercial ammo makes power factor.
No.
@Bill Randall No. Please do some research.
I don't agree with loading less than what your magazine allows. Train how you fight, and if you train yourself to reload after six when your gun holds eight...you lose a round. More importantly you lose a second or two.
Thatoneguy overthere this is competition shooting. Thats why theyre talking about points. So they ARE training how theyll shoot.
Dellacondan not the second round where he states that he will be doing the same drill but from a concealed carry point of view. My point is if you train that way then your muscle memory will be wrong when it counts.
Sorry to necro, but I'm pretty sure the reload after 6 is a simulation of malfunction during the drill.
It's also an opportunity to train on your reloads. Also the El Presidente was created back in the revolver days, so that's why 6 reload 6. It's still a staple in the competition world today.
It's a skill builder. Transitions and multiple shots with reload. Don't assume this is the only drill they ever practice.
It's ok to be trained as a shooter, meaning to be fast and accurate...but you can not simulate a real life gun fight if there isn't a live skilled shooter on the other side, against you...
I agree with shooting targets but that is only basic of shooters knowledge and skill...
Sory if i had typing errors in text!
Shoot to slide lock, instead of 6 then a reload. If you still have immediate threats your not going to reload with Ammo in the gun are you. I mean no disrespect. Just asking. Thanks for the video.
Slide lock reloads are always slower. Sometimes you need to come to a new position with a gun that's filled to the brim.
Sonny Gunz
It's a drill you nerd
The self defense guy will probably be dead with his style of reload and less focus on time.....