Best Compact Circular Saw in 2024?
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- čas přidán 8. 12. 2022
- The DeWalt Xtreme DCS512, Milwaukee M12 Fuel 2530-20 Ryobi P505, Ryobi PCL500, and Skil PWRCore 12 5-1/2" and 5-3/8" circular saws battle to see who is best! Do any of these compact circular saws have a place in your toolbox?
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SPECS: Sorry for the editing fail at 1:21 - here are the missing saw weights: Skil 4.78 LBS / Ryobi P505 Old 6.18 LBS / Ryobi PCL500 New 4.19LBS
Wow! Huge difference between the new and old Ryobi! Too bad I bleed Red...
As someone who used to absolutely loathe DeWalt... Man, they're killin' it, lately.
DeWALT is on top right now bro, I forgot the name of that red brand....o well, not important....
@@Lee-lb9qh ohhhhh shitttt 😂😂😂😂
It's not even the same brand anymore. It's crazy the turnaround
Why loathe dewalt it's the American brand of these 4
I do low voltage work and I use the Skil 12 line up because I always know I’m the only one at the site that has it so my batteries don’t get “borrowed “ and they don’t grow legs like the m12, dewalt or makita stuff
Nice video, Jim. Thanks for doing all that work. You’ve saved me getting the wrong saw and I really appreciate that! Good production, too. Video and audio quality are good.
Been using the DEWALT extreme 12 v for 4 years now. Absolutely love it for medium duty work.
Glad to see you posting again!
Good work Jim! I've been impressed with the Skil 12v stuff from everything I've seen so far. A real underdog in my mind.
I work in a police dept and I was remodeling dispatch center. Lot's of built in cabinets that my work saw was just too big so I brought my skil 12v saw. Tore through cabinets easily and battery life was great. I used it recently to build a chicken coop and I don't think I have ever enjoyed using a $99 tool (battery and charger included) than with that one. Great video!
I have the Milwaukee and dewalt 12v. I’m a diy homeowner, and I use those 2 for most little quick cuts I’ve needed the past few projects. I picked up the 36v Metabo HPT saws this year, but haven’t had to pull either out yet. I love 12v tools!!!
I really like the Metabo HPT 36V sidewinder.
I just bought the Skil 12v tested here ($99 with 4.ah and fast charger), to go with the Skil 12v 5 tool set I got for $120. This review confirms what I had hoped. A quality 12v line that punches above its price point for a home DIYer like me. Better than Ryobi, and within striking distance of the much more expensive M12 line.
I have the Milwaukee. I use it mostly for cutting up pallets to use the wood to build planter boxes. I find it works great, for small projects. Lots of people love to hate of these size of tools with out looking at what they are designed for. They are not for contractors for most uses.
Kim I got the soil but really need the bigger battery to cut good thou. Thank for the video Caribbean viewer locked on!
Thanks for the great video. I’m a DIY’r, I don’t have any 12V cordless tools. I have two DeWalt 18V 5 1/2” circular saws that were gifts they still work. One battery is still good, I bought an adapter 18V to 20v battery I like the saw when I need to make one or two cuts, instead of getting out my corded Skilsaw circular saw. I was going to get the Ryobi, but after watching your video I going to get the 12v Skill instead I need/want another cordless one that size 🙂🙂. I hear good things about you from Rob & Sarah from Belts & Boxes
I still use my very old DeWalt 14.4v (5-3/8”) but modified an adapter to run 18v lithium batteries. It just won’t die!
Also, I'd love to see 6.5"ers tested, especially to see how the Flex in-line stacks up.
You just may get your wish 😉
@Philly Fixed I'd like to see the 2nd Gen new Kobalt 24v circular saw too! Great vids
Thanks for the review. Was considering the M12 saw, but now likely to wait for Gen2 or a great sale!
You want mine?
@@dangrimes5078 For free?
@@DownloaderVideo I'm joking, it's just that I don't really use it and now I just bought another Milwaukee 18 volt.
I actually just bought some bigger batteries for the M12 to see if it helps. They aren't real Milwaukee batteries they're Waitley. From what I've seen it's not going to help.
@@dangrimes5078 I’m imagined but if you change your mind and start hating it I’ll be here. 😂
@@DownloaderVideo ok, you never know but my advice would be not to buy one. I got my DeWalt 20v and Milwaukee 18v for $100 or less. They aren't top of the line tools but not bad.
Milwaukee is due for an updated circular saw to really perfect their m12 lineup of tools. Loving their newest drill and impact drivers and they have the best 12v multi tool out there. Couple of tools they fall short on and this older circular saw is definitely one of them.
They could also use an updated m18 circular saw. The 6 1/2” one is ancient now.
For sure an updated circular saw and Fuel models of the compact blower and rotary tools! Give us an updated circ saw and I’ll go buy it again!
@@ToolsInAction4ulooks like your wish came true!
@@norzoloco1 at first I thought you meant an updated m12 circular saw and I was even more excited
Jim, we need you buddy. The CZcams tool testing market is wide open brother. I may not be keeping up with the times but from what I’m seeing…. We need you back full swing. I’m loving the saw testing and you know I’ve been a fan since day one. The head to heads, the classic It’s Always Busted In Philadelphia/ Philly Fixed. Life gets in the way along with work and family so it’s hard man. I know all about it. I just miss it man that’s all. You along with a couple other people were my main inspiration to start my social media account’s. Always been a fan. Always will be brother. All the best to you and your family
The branding on the M12 looks like it's quite a few years in, But I have no idea
ToolGuyd did an article in 2018 asking "When will the M12 Fuel circular saw be updated?" -- so it's getting pretty long in the tooth! I believe it was released around January of 2015.
@@PhillyFixed If you are ever unsure of how old any tool sold at Home Depot is just look at its reviews and then sort by oldest. Whenever HD gets a new tool they do the "seed program reviews" right when the tool is available. Looks like the oldest review is February 2015
I picked up the $199 Ryobi 6 piece kit that included that 5.5 inch saw and it stalled every 2 second and would not cut the 2 by wood. Good to see someone pointing it out. That saw eventually went up in smoke. Unacceptable.
I don't know if it's me or my poor hearing but that Milwaukee seemed to bind and that motor seemed really stressed to make the cut. Never stalled but it really seemed like it had to try harder than skil and the DeWalt
It's not your hearing, it definitely struggled and sounded worse than the Skil.
The M12 saw is now over 8 years old I believe...definitely could do with an update, the dimensions could easily be reduced as I use mine in tight spots and the handle etc is definitely needlessly big.
The SKIL is in my tool collection. My favorite for around the house. 🙂✌️❤️
Definitely the best bang for your buck!
I love that dewalt. It's normally what I grab for small jobs. I only use the 60v for big jobs.
Cool. I just bought a Dewalt yesterday because of a sale package that included a battery, charger and a bag. I have been buying Ridgit, but felt they abandoned their lines. I felt jealous seeing what the other brand were releasing. I saw a drill test and Dewalt had one of the best torque out of all the brand, and I since had my eye on switching to Dewalt, and finally jump at it.
I'm invested in the M12 line and wanted the 2530-20 Fuel circular saw but for some reason I never got it. And I'm glad I did. It's not a bad saw and I liked its build quality but it is a bit underwhelming and pricey for what it is.
Since I also own Bosch tools, I ended up getting a brushed 18V 6 1/2" circular saw for less money and it's quite good despite being an old-ish brushed model.
Hugh? This is confusing.
@@dangrimes5078 why?
@@engineer_alv You said you never got it and your glad you did. At first I thought you must mean you're glad you didn't. However, you go on to describe your experience with the saw so I guess that means you did get the saw? Anyway, my point is not to be critical but rather to understand why I'm having trouble.
@@dangrimes5078 I meant I didn't. Bit of a typo right there.
What I meant by underwhelming performance was based on several video reviews I saw, this being one of them
@@engineer_alv I think that clears it up. I thought you were describing your experience with the saw and that was confusing. I have the saw and I really don't use it much. It's just too weak. I bought a DeWalt saw that I've been using. I wish I hadn't kept the Milwaukee.
I’d go for the m12 simply because I have the batts, but the Dewalt is 💪. Still trying to figure out the m12 HO batts.
I'm really eyeing that SKIL 12v platform. Their 12v batteries have the usb port as well as their 20v platform, correct?
Yes, they do. I have 12V in all 3 platforms, and I much prefer the DeWalt and Skil 12V platform over the M12. The M12 circ saw is just... anemic for what it should do. Once the M12 circ saw gets back to me, I'm going to sell it. I have a couple of Pwrcore12 tools (drill and oscillating multi tool) and can see adding a ratchet and some others. Both Pwrcore12 and 20 lines are a great value/performance ratio for a DIY person.
@@l00nybin Thanks for the info. My 5.5 inch old blue Ryobi circ saw still works just fine. 4200 rpm and I only use it around the house to demo a pallet or 2. Still haven't had to replace the brushes after 20 years. And, yes, it COMPLETELY cuts through any 2x4 or 2x6. I don't get what's going on with the alien green saws. 🤷♂️ But yeah, the performance, recent reputation-building and usb ports of the SKIL platform has me at the threshold of pulling the trigger. I should share this video with the Mrs being the holidays are upon us. 😉👍
Glad to see the results! Fortunately, I have the DeWalt 12V also, so I haven't missed that M12 at all... 😅😅
It's good to see that the Skil keeps up with the M12. DIYers can get similar power without the extra price. I've been impressed with my Pwrcore12 tools so far, and look forward to adding more.
I own the dewalt brushed screw/drill brushless for year and a half. for light duty screws and small holes. lately I've notice its not driving to the torque settings and drilling 5/16" drilling in 20gage sheet metal isnt as quick (new bit, battery too). So I've gone to M12 gen3, buying the screw/drill/hammer + impactas a kit $219, huge difference in power.
M12! I am a field electrician turned boss. I downsize to all m12's and don't miss the m18's often. But I carry everything needed in one big packout bag vs 2.5 packout rollers. That makes it worth it.
Great comparison, what kind of table are you using?
It's a DeWalt folding work table. I love it!
I've had the Ryobi for over a decade. Never been impressed overall, but it does halfway decent panel cuts with a 100 tooth blade on it. Always random issues trying to make it through 2x4 2x6 etc.
wow, 100 teeth on a 6 1/2 inch blade? that alone is incredible
I had the m12 saw for a bit but was very unimpressed with it.
The m18 fuel 6 1/2" though I love.
I’m curious how the ryobi 6 1/2” compact brushless (One+ HP) saw would compare versus this group
This is about the only tool I don't own that hasnt still got a wire attached . Going with the amount I use it when I do get it out battery could never be enough . Just my opinion based on my useage !
There's definitely still a place on the jobsite for corded tools!
Amazon Denali 20v tools are battery compatible with Skil 20v tools. Which means both made by Chervon. So if you have small DIY tasks why not go Denali as their prices look good. Chervon also makes Flex and Kobalt cordless tools.
The m12 Fuel Gen 2 is here. Would you be comparing?
No plans at the moment but I'll put it on the to-do list! It looks like a huge improvement over the old one.
Milwaukee should do a gen 2 for all it's sidewinder saws. I was hoping they would do a fuel gen 2 m18 6 1/2" this year.
I did a test on the rear handle, which is only 2-3 years old and it was towards the bottom of the pack as well. Kinda weird that they struggle with the category.
I’ll say one thing that m12 saw feels super well made. But I agree the power just isn’t there unless your cutting 2x2 or 1/4 plywood. It’s just not that useable
I bet a few chips Milwaukee has a gen 2 they're just waiting for springtime to release it.
If you ever do construction, you will know it sometimes can be dangerous. So I'll take milwaukee over skil just for the fact the blade stops faster, but I'm impressed with dewalt. But I'm curious, how long long the battery last compared to the milwaukee?
what is the most powerfull drill from metabo hpt?
The 36V DV36DAQ4 is their flagship hammer drill.
@@PhillyFixed thank you so much and have a grate christmas!
Milwaukee Gen 2 is what you have there. The newest model number starts with a 25...older one strangely starts with a 27
Interesting, didn't know they had one before this model -- thanks!
Incorrect, Milwaukee never had an M12 circular saw before this one. 2730 Is the M18 Fuel 6 1/2”.
Dewalt are great on saws in general. I'm investing in M18 Milwaukee and 12v extreme Dewalt. And I think Dewalt has better ergonomics than the M12 fat grip.
Then again M12 line is HUGE.
The Best Compact Circular Saw on the Market is the DeWalt 20v DCS571 4 3/8" Blade Left saw its Awesome..... But if your already on the DeWalt 12v Platform that is a nice , well made saw , just know it's limitations......👍🖖
The m12 does stall quite a bit. It does double as an excellent door stop tho
That hurts since I wasted my money on one of these.
The dewalt was pretty impressive and the skil was damn good too, as a Milwaukee fan I wouldn’t consider it
BTW
36V Metabo HPT router on sale at Lowe's online
$179
Lowest price I've ever seen
Used cryobi, for many years light duty construction, using the 2 ah battery kinda sad, use the 3 or 4 ah better choice the milfu(kie 12 volt not been the best saw i ever used, but using the dewalt 20 volt brushless 6.5 seems better like that one can sic a vacume hose on the back is great, personally there is a tit on the bittom of the Ryobi u can knock down n improve clearance a couple mm off makes it better, both dewalt n milwakue do not like the depth setting hard to read much prefer some of the early model ryobi, the blue model specifically,
DeWalt circular saws FTW (also Metabo HPT).
Those 5.5in ryobis really need a 4AH lol
That's what I was thinking
I’m on the M12 line and bought the M12 saw. After a few uses I returned it, I was not impressed with the performance. Build quality was great as always just no power. I’m gonna wait to see if Milwaukee comes out with a Gen 2 model before I consider another M12 circ saw again. I will say that the Ridgid and Ryobi HP 6 1/2” saws are becoming very tempting options.
The flex shouldve been in here that inline is the nuts.
The advertisement that popped up during this video was for Hercules power tools 🤣 clearly CZcams doesn't know their audience
Hey, the new Hercules brushless stuff is actually decent believe it or not!
I have an old ryobi 5 1/2" p505 (with a laser) that is my favorite saw because it's so light even with the 6 amp high output battery. I think running it on anything less than 4.0 is not ideal. Ryobi batteries are so light weight anyways. I'd never try to use it with a 2.0!
Ryobi is getting ready for the inflation driven decision to reduce stud thickness to 1.25" 😁
😎🛠️😎🛠️😎
I've really been enjoying makita blades. Problem is you have to get them online because stores only carry diablo blades.
Me thinks that the _only_ reason that people still like diablo blades is because their stores give them NO CHOICE by only stocking those blades. In my region, you can only get different brands online or at a small storefront hardware place. 🤔
5-1/2" and 5-3/8" blades are even harder than usual to find. On top of that, the Milwaukee wouldn't accept any of the bushings that came with the 20mm arbor Diablo blade because of the way it's designed and I had to order ones with a 10mm arbor on Amazon -- not in stores anywhere.
Lately I've been using Spyder blades, however I think Makita blades did very well on Project Farm not too long ago.
My 5.5" ryobi(same 'POS505') performed identically to both of these saws in the comparison. Considering all the other competitors were of the 12v variety, this is shameful. RYOBI may be okay in some applications where the DIY'rs only cutting 1/4" dry material, definitely not pressure treated decking boards, as mine died cutting dry, untreated decking boards😡.
Sangat suka dengan dewalt extreme 12v, maukah anda menghadiahkannya untukku ?
You can see that with the Skil closer he slowed it down, maybe he likes DeWalt.
Throw the Ryobi ones in the trash please. Thanks.
errr... don't cut 2by wood with 12V, stick to 18/20V at least. For circular saws I use Metabo 36V, even though I have batteries for DeWalt 20V & 60V, and Milwaukee M18 & M12. And Ryobi. And Ridgid. And Makita 12V.
i would go with skil cause price for home use, but dewalt if i was using it for work. milwaukee is overpriced for mediocre products, their impacts are decent but so is dewalt or skil, even ryobi, its not worth the money imo, dewalt or skil is the winner, ryobi is definitly an option depending on what tool you need, even then im sure dewalt or skil has the same tool.
Ryobi is design for 5 1/2 in blade not 5 3/8
Pretty disappointed in Milwaukee here; you can just hear it struggling! The DeWalt was excellent; only gripe I noticed is that the dust exhausts backwards, where Skil and Milwaukee exhaust straight down, keeping a lot of that sawdust from getting ingrained in your clothes.
The DeWalt has an attachment for a dust vacuum, so that's why it shoots back. As a lefty, I'm glad it shoots back instead of to the right. Even the M12 shooting "down" gets dust all over you unless you stand far back. But let's be honest: when we're using those, we're right up next to the boards stabilizing them, so the sawdust will get on you.
Patrick is probably annoyed you kept it so long it became obsolete lol.
😅
That shirt would so go over 99.999 percent of the population’s heads if you wore it, just doing your errands. Maybe that one handyman in the hardware store would get it.
I realized once that I was wearing my "feels good in the hand" shirt at the grocery store. Didn't look up, didn't want to know 😅
The high output definitely less power
I just don’t like dewalt 12v battery size..it’s bigger compared to milwaukee m12
If we're talking the CP1.5/2.0/3.0 M12 batteries that are 3 cells sitting in the handle/stem, sure. The XC 3.0/4.0/6.0, the square base is negligibly smaller than the DeWalt 12V packs, in my opinion. Of course the 5aH DeWalt is a bit taller than the 2 or 3.
I think the ryobi would of benefited from a 4ah battery. Ryobi uses the exact same cells in their 2ah and 4ah hp and non hp batteries. The hp just has extra cooling and extra electronicson it to communicate with certain tools, but that communication is no longer needed outside of those few 2019-2020 tools. The 4ah still is a 2p and therefore has double the current capcity. A regular 4ah battery hits the brushless hammer drill harder than a 2ah hp. That saw would of likely ran better with a 4ah, probably would of beat the milwaukee and skil
Now the 6ah uses sony cells instead of chinese eve cells, and the 8 and 12 use samsung 21700s
I just purchased the Stanley V20 kit,comes with 2ah batts. The saw was gay! untill you confirmed my suspicions and went and brought a 4ah batt,what a difference! Happy to be down on the ground after 4hrs cutting purlins up on the trusses. Thks.
I can't stand the grips on the skill just feel bad on the hands
Somewhat disappointed at Milwaukee
Ha ha!
The product of my favorite multi billion dollar company, bested the product of your favorite multi billion dollar company!
That means I’m a better human being than you!!
Hi. The price/ weight comparison was a bit of a fail.
Otherwise, keep it up!
Yeah, editing mistake 🤦♂️
I really don't see the point of small underpowered circular saws
The Dewalt and Milwaukee saws are meant for the Electrician, Plumber, etc for cutting blocking. We aren't building houses but still have to lug alot of tools up flights of stairs. Every bit helps