Ecoboost Mustang Drag Strip EC Phase 1 Tune
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Drag strip results from the first trip with the EC Phase 1 tune.
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Good numbers from the Ecobeastie. Came for the WWII aircraft, work interest lead me to this. Nothing wrong with giving a daily driver a little "factory plus" treatment. Thank you for your quality content!
Greg I’m not into mustangs but I love your approach to developing a performance aftermarket for this car. The Internet is full of add the biggest turbo and widest tires and you’ll have an 8 sec car. You really take it step x step with tuning and power adders I hope you have great success with your efforts!
I know it's off topic but... can't wait for your next DCS video!
I legit daily drive my 626 horse S197 Coyote car.....even in the snow, lol! Great work, enjoying this series! DR as well, solid 11.50 car on stock suspension, bars, torque converter.
That's impressive. 11.50 is really fast.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Done it on bald all season radials and the 121 mph trap indicates this 4000 pound car has a low 11 in it, ideally. I think the tight stock torque converter is holding things back a little. This 2014 geezer has beat a Hellcat, Corvette C7 ZO6 and my buddy's GTR :)
As a part-time Crash Test Dummy,
I'm impressed with how smoothly this went.
a 105 mph trap speed is enough to get a car into the high 12s, so I agree with you.
I think so too.
Just got one of these Mustangs, the Ecoboost Premium with the Performance Package is impressive for what it is.
I agree, it's superior in performance to most everything in its price range. Plus it's comfy and economical. I really like it.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles let me know if you need a 2024 ecoboost test mule, I am in San Angelo TX. Have plenty of tuning experience, Forscan and FDRS experience/software, and I am not afraid to flash an ECU. My Google mail address is the same as my username here.
Thanks, I'll keep you in mind. At this point we don't have anything ready for testing on the 2024. We do have an intake going into production, it's much like what you saw in this video, but a 2024 version. However it's not in stock yet. We are also working on tuing solutions, but it's far from ready.
I've had my EB Mustang for 7 years, and I love it. So do the chix. ;)
Nice, Greg. Solid run.
Man I have only recently begun watching David Vizard a few months ago. I stumbled upon his channel doing research for my car, specifically cam selection, and I have been very impressed. To find out you two are working together is exciting! I am glad I didn't pull the trigger on a cam much earlier because I got a lot of useful information that will help me get better performance.
I took my car to the strip a while back. I'll have to find the slips but I ran similar numbers (was in the 13s with about 104ish trap speed). Of course, this is in a 5.7L Challenger not an ecoboost Mustang. I think your numbers are very believable and the 60' times do play a huge role in overall E/T. If I had been able to better control wheel spin I may have had identical numbers to yours, but doing that with street tires and little to no practice is difficult.
Can't wait to see how this turns out!
I watch David Vizard utube also . To learn from . I remember he bought a Mustang a while back when i watched a video on your Mustang i thought then David is also doing some development on his Mustang.. . I always appreciate your videos..i recommend them also . Thanks for what you do
How about a video detailing the Jeep, from WWII to Vietnam and how the design changed until it was replaced?
That's not a bad idea, and I do have access to a couple of them.
I'm noticing a narrative change in why gasoline was leaded. Them saying it was greedy companies instead of a necessary evil or lack of a reasonable substitute. Could you maybe talk about it a little?
I think I have talked about a little bit here: czcams.com/video/NJP7iouMwsE/video.htmlfeature=shared . The short version is that lead increases the fuel's octane rating. That's the reason they used it. The down side was that it would foul the spark plugs faster. The reason leaded fuel was eliminated for use in cars from 1975 and on was because that's when they added catalytic converters, and leaded gas is not compatible with them. It's now said that leaded fuel is bad for the environment. That's probably true, but I don't know that it's that bad. For example 100 Low Lead used at airports has 10 times the lead of leaded auto gasoline, yet nature thrives at airports to the point that it's a problem and they have programs to kill animals and birds to deal with it.
I've noticed the same thing. Something like there was an alternative to lead but the companies didn't want to spend the money. Kind of like the narrative that electric cars were always great, but it was a conspiracy that stopped them instead of poor battery tech.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
While you can’t deny what you said is true, the way lead accumulation shows itself in animal populations/nature is in food chain tops, so birds of prey or ducks or fish in the airport environment if there is water. You usually see high lead accumulation in these populations, while the animals the reproduce less aren’t great markers.
Do you have anything for my 2018 Focus ST ?
I own a '21 eco boost stang. I've only had one car that was faster than it. That was a '70 ss chevelle with with a 454 ls6 crate motor,m22 rock crusher and 3.73 gears
Thanks for the hat-tip to David Vizzard. When I was racing a 2-liter Capri in the 90's, I practically slept with his '2.0 Pinto' book under my pillow. Good to see he's still kickin'.
Anyway, any clue as to the longevity of the Ecoboost when stressed like this? I know that some of the "Ecoboost" engine have had problems of one sort or another...
It holds up just fine.
Greg, are you familiar with Matt Happel of the Sloppy Mechanics Garage in Pennsylvania? He’s the master at making cars go fast with stock engine components on pump gasoline. He might have some tricks you might not yet know. He mainly specializes in LS’s though. He’s the reason why Ford Fairmont prices rose globally, and why people automatically assume they’re fast, whenever a Fairmont shows up at the drag strip or Car show.
I assume a Fairmont is fast because there is literally no reason to own one except that it's the lowest priced vehicle that you can easily put a V8 into. They are so cheap that they leave a lot of money for the engine. My Grandfather had a V8 Fairmont back in the late 70s with a factory 302. It was quick for the time.
The Chateau Impney Hillclimb is one of my favorite events and the Mustang would probably do quite well on that kind of course .. We need a good hillclimb course here in NASCAR country ..
I like that idea. I would love see a well set up Ecoboost Mustang at a hill climb.
Off Topic: I recently saw a video, in russian, of an aircraft crash find. The exact location isnt given, just that the aircraft was a BF-109F/4, lost on the eastern front, werk number 10128. Im trying to learn more about it, who the pilot was, his fate, the unit he flew with, circumstances of the crash but having trouble finding information.
Ive often thought that unless some car has a particularly bad intake system that aftermarket intake systems on stock turbo cars probably dont do much. Having air a few degrees cooler that still enters a hot turbo, is compressed and put through an intercooler i wouldn't think it amounts to much.
It doesn't amount to much, but performance is often a game of cumulative incremental improvements.
It is time for Gregs Automoniles aggain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greg- other than the decidedly "old school tech" on the older Block- what are the physical differences between this I-4 and the SVO 2.3L engine from the mid 1980s? If memory serves, this SVO Mustang was competitive in its day, not unlike this 2.3L block from today.
As an aside, Love your work on this Channel from a former USAF Jet Mechanic and longtime Gearhead perspective. I always learn something from your endeavors.
Covering the changes in the block would require a video, plus I don't have them both here to show that.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Thank you for your reply.
I bring up that block because of Ford's proclivities towards that particular I-4 displacement going back. In that regard, as far as the current Ford I-4 Turbo "Family "goes- what are the differences/commonalities between the engine/ECU tuning in your Mustang, and the Focus RS?
And, another reason I bring up the SVO- I saw a street race between a "tweaked" SVO and a Merkur XR4Ti (remember those??). I saw this unfold from behind, so not sure who won, but, I just remember how quick those, and, the then Brand-new Taurus SHO 5 speed were.
A friend has the V6 version of this engine. His cam phasers went crazy. The Ford dealership cannot fix it. They do not have properly trained technicians. Soon after the warranty expires, all these cars will go to the bone yard. The lifetime carbon footprint of ICE cars could have been much smaller if they were not so complicated. A V-8 mustang from 10 years ago with 15-10 mpg has smaller carbon footprint than this.
That's a pretty cool challenge!
You have very nice 2018 Performance Pack Mustang (mine is a 2018 base model w/ 3.15 gearing), plus I think we are using the same tuning format.
I'm currently modifying my factory stock long block to run high 11s, using ethanol and an aftermarket turbocharger.
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Thanks, hopefully someone takes up the challenge. I'm not sure what tuning you are using, but the EC tune is via the Tuner link system and it's not a clone of another tune. Toby at EC makes these tunes one at a time for each customer.
My current tune is on the .hpt format, as opposed to my old tunes being on the .ptm format
You should be able to download and read my current tune, using your hardware/software.
It is possible, you may be able to read my old tunes, even though they are on a .ptm format, using a tune translator, however it is difficult and time consuming.
The advantage to your system is the hand held device w/ interface, where I use a laptop w/ interface.
Greg, has old school tuning, different cams, polished heads and ports etc gone out of the window, and is everythig now achieved by tweaking the ECU, or is it a combination of both?
The old time stuff still maters. You can get pretty far with tuning. In the case of this car you can get another 50whp out of it with tuning and still be quite safe. However beyond that and you really start to need actual hardware, and there are EcoBoosts running 500hp and more, those usually have very serious internal engine mods, including head work and cams.
Hey Mr. Greg! Where you at??
Morbach, working on the next video.
Have any plans of coming to the "Big Showdown" on April 13th in Ennis, Texas, at Texas Motorplex? Would be cool to meet you and run some cars. I want to bring both cars but the wife (fresh from Thailand), isn't comfortable racing yet. Will bring the 1,100hp C6 Grand Sport, and a relatively stock 2020 Mustang GT Premium Performance Pack 1 @ 500 hp. You are welcome to run in that if you'd like. They also have roll racing as well, usually starting from 40 mph.
Do you use HP Tuners at all? I use that mainly on the Vette, but with the power the Vette is making, airflow, hp and torque calculations max out. Looking to twin turbo the Mustang GT when the wallet permits. Should be fun to see if it can beat the Vette, considering it is as light as it is.
I'm not doing that, but I will be at Hallett in May and my people will probably run both Mustangs and some other stuff.
Nice one Greg....👌
I would do an update on the rules, Greg.
When you say "Intercooling: you can do whatever you want.", that opens the door to get the intake charge down to very low temperatures and corresponding high densities, completely within the rules, as stated.
Evaporative cooling via spraying pre-chilled mixtures containing alcohols would be just one way to do it.
A liquid-to-air intercooler running the liquid mentioned above would be another way to tackle it.
I don't know if that would produce the desired times, but I would definitely try it, as perhaps others will, or are already doing it.
You make good points. I'm not too worried about someone running liquid to air because it's more work than one of the many air to air units on the market right now, it's more expensive and would only offer a very small advantage. It's much the same with an intercooler sprayer. Someone could rig up an intercooler sprayer for the stock intercooler, but that won't be as effective as a better intercooler.
I once attempted to rig up an intercooler sprayer on my 2.0T optima the night before a little airport drag event deal just for fun. Was going to be very hot that day. I didn't expect any actual gains from it other than hoping to mitigate some of the heat soaking issues. I just used a washer pump/reservoir assembly I had laying around from a 80s Toyota pickup, vacuum line and a small mister type sprinkler head deal. I simply ziptied the sprinkler to the inside of the grill in front of the intercooler and ran it off a toggle switch. Kind of worked, but i didn't put much effort into it and didn't do any sort or verification of temps.
@@chickenfishhybrid44 Multiple injection points would be ideal. Water/alcohol mixture. Placing the sprayers not too far from the heat exchanger in order to take full advantage of evaporative cooling, but far enough so that they cover a reasonable area.
A lot of variables go into it from my theoretical knowledge which I have yet to put into practice.
From your experience, what would you say were the temperatures of the intercooler face, without sprayers, at the beginning and at the end of a run?
$1000 bounty, cool.
Someone should be able to pull that off quickly. The mph is there, so it’s just a matter of 60’ time. It needs to be a 1.95 or so. A well prepped track, good air, tire pressure set right and it’s a done deal…
I think so too. Hopefully someone does it.
Greg: my 12 year old grandson has shown some interest in a flight sim. I think that DCS would be too hard core. Any idea about IL2 or Rise of Flight?
Even IL2 is pretty hard core for a 12 year old. I think maybe War Thunder is a good entry level, then after that IL2 or Rise of Flight. I don't know of anyone under about 14 who plays DCS, maybe there are some, but probably very few.
I'd also have added one more condition that it's done in compliance with all applicable LAWS. lol
That's why we do this stuff at a drag strip. These modern cars are just too fast to test on the street.
Love a modded car that can work in a track day and for daily use
Love it when Greg puts up offers! Hey Greg has the Ford spyware & excessive safety software driven you nuts yet? My father-in-law has a 2024 Silverado and he's already had maybe 10 updates done via the internet and you can't drive the truck for 10 minutes or so while it updates. So he was stuck at the gas station for about 10 minutes while his truck updated cuz it doesn't let you start. I would be so pissed if my truck did that. He also have bird poop on a sensor on the windshield up by the rear view mirror that because it was bird poop on it his truck wouldn't go over 40 because it said there was an impact detected 😂. I love technology I got smart stuff everywhere but I do not want my car to have any of these computers in it. I like my backup camera that's his fancy as I want to get in my truck. I definitely don't like where Ford's going and Congress is going with this automatic shutdown if they think you're driving recklessly or if they sent alcohol in the vehicle yeah they want to put sensors in and they'll shut down the vehicle if it senses alcohol which is going to be so wrong all the time because I'm eating candy and drinking a Red Bull right now so the sugar coming off my breath is going to trick the sensor into thinking I'm drunk as hell. I hope our logical thinking senators and congressmen squash this insane auto bill they're trying to pass or have passed I don't even remember what the status is. Definite orwellian shenanigans going on.
mad lad
Is that a GTV in the background?
No, that's Alexander's GTV6. He works at EC. He also has some GTVs.
Been wanting to throw a tune on mine for a while now but got side tracked shaking out my new 68. Completely stock setup except for a CVFab street intercooler. 2400’ elevation and California 91 octane has given me consistent 13.5@105
I think you would easily get into the 12s with this tune if you're already that quick. Have you run that time at an actual drag strip?
Yes - Willow Springs in Rosamond, CA. That sounds like a good Christmas gift for myself!
How many In-Hugs does it make?
Greg, does pump fuel include E85? ;)
I'm afraid not. I specially specified "pump gasoline" for this challenge. Plus EC Phase 1 is a pump gasoline tune.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles technicality, but most pump gas has ethanol in it. I do hope to see you do a E30 and E85 tune - I suspect that you can unlock a bunch of horsepower on E30 and E85 (actually, I am rather sure of it).
play on the overlord ww2 server way more people on there
Does it have the Dora with MW-50? Does it have external views? Does it have bases for all the planes close enough to the action so that I don't have to spend 20-30 mins just getting to the fight? I'm asking because I don't know, but a lack of any of those things is a deal breaker for me. Also, why are you posting this here? This is a Ford Mustang video.
Greg are you done with WII videos ?
No, absolutely not. I will probably never be "done" with them. I have a few more in production at this moment and if I live another 30 years I won't be able to make all the ones I'm thinking about making.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles That makes me happy! You are a WWII EXPERT.
What if it’s supper gutted will they still win the 1000
Fair question. I suppose it will depend on how gutted it is. I don't care if someone removes the back seat or does other typical track day stuff, but the car should have AC, windows and stuff like that. In other words, a legit street drivable car.
is these a photoshop ? during this....test
No, certainly not. What makes you say that?
I think my 2004 Toyota Caldina GtFour is just as fast as this mustang and it is a auto... 2.0 16v turbo 4wd
Great, post of video of it showing the times.
13s is just as fast as a gt with a meh driver
Thanks, yes that's about right. Of course a lot depends on just what year GT we are talking about, but historically low 13's is fast even for a V8 model.
Man I'm a mechanic. Ecoboosts and GDIs are absolute garbage.
The 2.3 Ecoboost is a good engine.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Yeah, if you keep em clean. Which as we all know, most people don't. Valves gunk up and they end up burning the crap out of their oil.
So, the engine isn't garbage, the end users' maintenance (or lack of) is the problem. Can't blame the engine for that.
@@mikesimon9446 No it's still the engine. DOHCs don't burn 1qt of oil per 1k miles (avg) with gunked up valves. Its very much a design choice by Ford so it fails and you buy another car.