How to Play Against Hard Hitting BANGERS

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 30. 06. 2024
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Komentáƙe • 156

  • @PickleballJourney
    @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety +8

    Do you play a lot of bangers or are you the banger?

    • @jimackerman6343
      @jimackerman6343 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I hate playing against bangers!!! I am definitely not a banger. I mix it up between dinking and power. I don’t lob either. Lol.

    • @JV220
      @JV220 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@jimackerman6343 is lobbing no good?

    • @jimackerman6343
      @jimackerman6343 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@JV220 I don’t practice lobbing, so I’m not too good at it. I noticed the pros don’t lob too much. It seems like they get into a dinking duel until someone makes a mistake.

    • @coachfezz1137
      @coachfezz1137 Pƙed rokem +1

      banger here and topspin lobber thx for videos for the commonman !

    • @MaruMaruMaruMaruMaruMaru
      @MaruMaruMaruMaruMaruMaru Pƙed rokem

      I bang hard

  • @bkmason57
    @bkmason57 Pƙed 2 lety +19

    "Shoulder high, let it fly."

  • @deakemarschall2992
    @deakemarschall2992 Pƙed 2 lety +20

    Great simple, clear instructions. Thanks gents. "Paddle out front" is my new mantra.

  • @gustavoparra947
    @gustavoparra947 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Thank you very much guys I learned a lot with you.

  • @ahmedelawadly7210
    @ahmedelawadly7210 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thanks guys, clear, straightforward to the point. Really useful 👍 and helpful tips

  • @deannabarnes3771
    @deannabarnes3771 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Thanks, good tips and quarter zips

  • @patrickperkins5316
    @patrickperkins5316 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    Thanks learned a lot from this video
. I’m a 3.0 so most of the people I play are banging it at me
. My problem is keeping the ball down, and not giving them the chance to bang. Also would these tips be beneficial to a singles player, I mean I know they would but what is the ideal position for a singles player while playing a banger?

  • @howardchoi8045
    @howardchoi8045 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Wow! Great video. Thank you for your wonderful tip lesson. I'd like to be there.
    Thank you again.

  • @wm6869
    @wm6869 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Excellent tips! And I like how you are to the point and demonstrate. Thanks!

  • @HunterNONstop316
    @HunterNONstop316 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Them quarter zips are sickkkk. Definitely buying one asap

  • @reginacutwright244
    @reginacutwright244 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    love you guys,,,, use this all time

  • @davidj7516
    @davidj7516 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Thank you very much. So many bangers out there, even when you get into 4.0's. Thanks again.

    • @LearnMusclescom
      @LearnMusclescom Pƙed 2 lety +6

      There are also bangers in the pros. Banging/driving is fine as a weapon, and I believe should be in our arsenal, as long as we also can drop/dink.

    • @sunsioux444
      @sunsioux444 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Yes need a variety of shots. I know a lot of bankers who can’t even begin to adopt a soft game

  • @garyjones3585
    @garyjones3585 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Thanks for good ideas

  • @wesbravo8251
    @wesbravo8251 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    Keep it up guys. I appreciate the tips and tricks.

  • @Starry737
    @Starry737 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Love this.

  • @kristinek2916
    @kristinek2916 Pƙed rokem

    Thanks! Great tips 👍

  • @patticooney3649
    @patticooney3649 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Love the 3/4 Zips !!!

  • @michaelstetzer3144
    @michaelstetzer3144 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Good instruction!

  • @gracenmotion2402
    @gracenmotion2402 Pƙed rokem

    Great tut. Thank you guys. I face a lot of bangers so this tut was excellent


  • @bretts5571
    @bretts5571 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Great advice!

  • @pjpj2639
    @pjpj2639 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    They are understated great players
 good 4.0s 
kidding much higher
.instruction is solid
. Like it

  • @michaelpesile4606
    @michaelpesile4606 Pƙed 2 lety +11

    You guys do a good job of showing the various shots and strategies.

  • @acundo123
    @acundo123 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    The quarter zips are fire đŸ”„

  • @ghost3952
    @ghost3952 Pƙed rokem +1

    Awesome videos !

  • @LaserRanger15
    @LaserRanger15 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    I was a competitive tennis player butt a rotator cuff injury has pretty much ended that. This sport looks fun and it seems like it might be easier on the shoulder. Never have played, but am going to look into it.

    • @mimihalligan4141
      @mimihalligan4141 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      It’s so fun. Give it a shot. My friends and I played soccer for last 20 years. Finally retired and needed to find another fun thing to do. It’s so great, we play 2x a week. Lots of 70 and even older people play and they’re great. We hope to play into our 80’s!

    • @AJCsr
      @AJCsr Pƙed 2 lety +2

      You will not look back...

    • @15packman
      @15packman Pƙed rokem

      Much easier on the shoulder

  • @AJCsr
    @AJCsr Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Grandpa just subscribed, you young whipper-snappers !

  • @coachfezz1137
    @coachfezz1137 Pƙed rokem +1

    will you have a video on how best that bangers can beat dinkers when learning besides drills of dink? just strategies or such ? its a big learning curve with drops and stuff .

  • @F.X.Techniq
    @F.X.Techniq Pƙed rokem +1

    Great tips!

  • @abdelgonzalez8430
    @abdelgonzalez8430 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Love the shirts and the design

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety

      Thanks! These quarter zips are on limited supply. Email us at pickleball221@gmail.com if you want one 👍

  • @TutuSainz
    @TutuSainz Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Excellent

  • @lisadahlquist8332
    @lisadahlquist8332 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Hey guys, I am curious to know whether you guys have tennis backgrounds, because your low-to-high follow through looks like a tennis forehand groundstroke. Are you basically using fundamental tennis groundstroke and volley techniques for pickleball? Is the technique the same as tennis? Thanks!

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Hey Lisa, we both have tennis backgrounds. Elisha is also PPR certified in pickleball. Some of the fundamentals transfer from tennis, but there is a decent amount of technique that differs in pickleball. 👍

    • @jeanpauljeanpaul2530
      @jeanpauljeanpaul2530 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      OVI!

  • @zachcarmichael699
    @zachcarmichael699 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Hi, do you guys typically put lead tape on your paddles? If so, how much and where?

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety +2

      We currently don’t, but considering adding some for more control.

  • @darrell1374
    @darrell1374 Pƙed rokem

    Nice video!

  • @infomercialguy
    @infomercialguy Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Solid video

  • @richardderfler7729
    @richardderfler7729 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    The problem I have on third shot drop is high enough on the bounce they power over a top spin right into me from maybe 10 feet from me.

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      We have that challenge as well!

    • @pjpj2639
      @pjpj2639 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Less arc on your drops 
 the ball will bounce less on the other side

    • @casperthegm741
      @casperthegm741 Pƙed rokem

      Same problem here. I think the third shot drop is the hardest shot by far- too short and you're in the net- too long or high and the bangers can tee off on it. What I've seen some people do is hit their third shot a little firmer (but not bang it), so that it doesn't have as much arc or high bounce, forcing your opponent to hit it back from below the top of the net. They'll have a tougher time hitting it hard, or if they do, they'll risk hitting it out of bounds due to the upward trajectory when they bang it from below the top of the net.
      Either way, this kind of firmer 3rd shot drop still gives you time to move up after you hit it and then when you're hitting your 5th shot from closer to the kitchen line you should be better able to dink it over, as you're now closer to where you want to be and your opponent's shot shouldn't be a big drive (hopefully). Much easier to write it than to pull it off, but something to consider :-)

  • @shawnthompson2303
    @shawnthompson2303 Pƙed rokem +1

    My Father in Law says I play a power game so I think I'm the banger. Lol. Fun game, glad we've discovered it. Really easy to pick up.

  • @maggiezhang9695
    @maggiezhang9695 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    Wow....I didn't realize those banger ones are soooo easy to be out. Now I know, and I won't try so hard to defense. LOL

  • @gillespellerin4442
    @gillespellerin4442 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    The 1/4 zip looks great.

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety

      Thanks!

    • @gillespellerin4442
      @gillespellerin4442 Pƙed 2 lety

      When and where will they be available for purchase? Will we be able to get them in Canada? Thanks

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety

      If you are a small or medium we can send you one now. The rest of sizes will be in within the next month. Email us at pickleball221@gmail.com.

  • @ianradford502
    @ianradford502 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    1/4 zips look nice

  • @streetglidesteve
    @streetglidesteve Pƙed 2 lety

    You made that look so easy

  • @josepinchero
    @josepinchero Pƙed rokem

    what about the person at the NVL (the defender) dropping the ball short w/ a slice punch drop? i would think that would be a great neutralizer to a banger standing on the back line.

  • @selectshelley
    @selectshelley Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Jackets look good.

  • @dwainsmith448
    @dwainsmith448 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    How do you differentiate between bangers and drivers?

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Pretty similar. I’d say bangers are hitting hard a bit more frequently, and it’s less controlled than a drive. The drive may be hit slightly softer and with some spin.

  • @kento1957
    @kento1957 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    I've heard both approaches against bangers: keep them back and force them into a soft game at the net. Which is correct?

    • @LearnMusclescom
      @LearnMusclescom Pƙed 2 lety +4

      Can’t both be good options??

    • @mmacaine
      @mmacaine Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Both are used in the game.

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Both are needed! It’s good to mix it up if you can 👍

    • @SpicyCurryProd
      @SpicyCurryProd Pƙed 2 lety +4

      Lot of 4.5+ tennis players coming into the game and don’t have the soft game, so they like to stay back and rip them. They are the ones I like to hit the drop (or cut) volley so that it bounces twice in the kitchen
then the banger has to lunge and dash forward, either messing up or popping it up. Hitting deep to this type of player is what a coach once said, “You’re feeding the beast.”

  • @bigbluemarble5
    @bigbluemarble5 Pƙed 2 lety

    Good drill

  • @jimandkellykemble9983
    @jimandkellykemble9983 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Hi Justin, we used your Engage discount code a few months ago and wonder if you have any other discount codes now. A friend wants to buy an Engage Pursuit and I said I’d try to get her your discount code.

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety

      Hey Jim and Kelly - try 20Ancona
      Let me know if that doesn’t work for them.

  • @kathysheeran6589
    @kathysheeran6589 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Nice quarter zips

  • @pongucla
    @pongucla Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Which paddle are you each playing with in this video?

    • @sammyleepickleball
      @sammyleepickleball Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Looks to me like the Engage Pursuit EX and the paddletek tempest wave

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Engage pursuit EX 6.0 for Justin. Paddletek tempest wave for Elisha.

  • @YTGerry1
    @YTGerry1 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I play a lot of bangers who bang on the kitchen line when all four players are at the kitchen lines at the same time. Any tips on this ?

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety

      The best thing you can do is to be ready for it and try to hit dinks that sit up high and prevent them from attacking.

  • @jimackerman6343
    @jimackerman6343 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Chest high, let it fly!!!

  • @drcpilotflyer
    @drcpilotflyer Pƙed 2 lety +1

    What paddle are you guys using?

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety

      Justin is using the engage pursuit ex 6.0.
      Elisha is using paddletek tempest wave pro

  • @loricody4956
    @loricody4956 Pƙed rokem

    Shoulder height varies, dependant on the player. What height would you say, (in general) should a person be, for this to apply? (Shoulder high, let it fly). I’m 5’3, so my shoulders are a little low.

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed rokem

      Depends on how hard the ball is hit. In general, I’d say 5’4-5’9

    • @loricody4956
      @loricody4956 Pƙed rokem

      @@PickleballJourney thanks. Instead of shoulder high let it fly, maybe for shorties it should be “at my ear, go have a beer?”

    • @janeta3509
      @janeta3509 Pƙed rokem +1

      Lori, heard this one today...above the titty no hitty!đŸ€Ł

  • @cathygraham8005
    @cathygraham8005 Pƙed 2 lety

    When I play a guy that does some banging I see his windup and I'm like AGHHH!!!! (internally) Gotten hit pretty bad too. Ouch. I'm getting better at keeping that paddle up.

    • @JV220
      @JV220 Pƙed 2 lety

      Does everyone hate bangers! Lol

  • @SlamMasterPickleball
    @SlamMasterPickleball Pƙed 2 lety +1

    YOU want FAST HANDS? Check out the Slam Master Pickleball Practice/Training Paddle. BEAT BANGERS!
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  • @drcpilotflyer
    @drcpilotflyer Pƙed 2 lety +1

    What paddle are y’all using

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Elisha is using Paddletek tempest wave.
      Justin is using engage pursuit ex 6.0

  • @jimackerman6343
    @jimackerman6343 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Are you guys playing at the US Open tournament in Florida?

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety

      I wish! We both have trouble taking time off with our busy work schedules. Are you playing?

    • @jimackerman6343
      @jimackerman6343 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@PickleballJourney unfortunately no. I’m working as well and it’s only a few hours away from where I live, The Villages!!! Pickleball is amazing here!

  • @infomercialguy
    @infomercialguy Pƙed 2 lety +1

    TOTES ADORBS THE QUARTER ZIPS.

  • @jimr9266
    @jimr9266 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    So no loose grips soft returns

  • @lymedog3176
    @lymedog3176 Pƙed rokem +1

    I always tell my son anything higher than your underarms, that is hit hard, will normally go out. When you are on the kitchen line
 anything that height farther back just avoid
it’s definitely out!

  • @frank88ster
    @frank88ster Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    My returns would start with down to transition zone down the middle of court. Why? 75% it will land to no man's land and confuse them and this will be considered an 'attack' to their back hands and may result in a pop up.

  • @zacherymayes9948
    @zacherymayes9948 Pƙed 2 lety

    It would be nice if you had a real banger in there that can bang and keep it in
 which is to say keep it low. I’ve never seen with my own eyes someone competitive that’s banging the ball consistently high and far. Top spin can be brutal.

  • @dickybyrd6865
    @dickybyrd6865 Pƙed rokem

    You’re moving along to slowly. Thanks for the tips.

  • @soonlee9302
    @soonlee9302 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Sounds really wick, put up the volum please.

  • @mariliacosta1169
    @mariliacosta1169 Pƙed 2 lety

    A banger is someone that was sent a ball asking to be banged!!!

  • @HisLilyPrincess
    @HisLilyPrincess Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    All of my friends and i came from tennis. All the guys like to bang too much and these are the tricks I can use to slow the game down.

  • @ScottLive1
    @ScottLive1 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    My new go to channel for tips!

  • @frank88ster
    @frank88ster Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    My first advice playing against bangers,.. wear a goggle. Lol!

  • @robertadams7751
    @robertadams7751 Pƙed rokem +1

    What's a banger? Never heard that term before #1.5rating

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed rokem

      We refer to bangers as players that hit drives extremely fast. Generally with not a lot of control. These players tend to be more comfortable back hitting drives instead of moving forward. Hope this helps, thanks!

  • @MrSaltlick
    @MrSaltlick Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I’m on the fence which way is best, keep them back or block it so they run forward. I know your inviting them to kitchen if you block which is not what you want to do, but honestly I get so tired of playing bangers if all your doing is keeping them back you become a banger too. I’d rather just get everyone to the net where we can start the game. Bangers bore me.

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety

      Check out our most recent video where we discuss this 👍

    • @JV220
      @JV220 Pƙed 2 lety

      Do you beat the bangers? Singles? Doubles?

    • @MrSaltlick
      @MrSaltlick Pƙed 2 lety

      @@JV220 if I can get them to the net then it’s a win win situation for me at least. They aren’t comfortable at net and I can usually beat them, if I try to keep them back I’m playing their game and I want them to be in a place where they aren’t comfortable. Bangers only bang if it works, as soon as they see it’s not working they’ll target your partner, if they know how to block too you just took all their power away.

  • @kimleith1378
    @kimleith1378 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    What ball is that?

  • @paulremick4291
    @paulremick4291 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Shoulder high......Let it fly! Thats my saying

  • @BVSkiCoach
    @BVSkiCoach Pƙed 2 lety

    What about a kitchen line banger

  • @mikesebal
    @mikesebal Pƙed 2 lety

    Stopping a slice

  • @bakervinci163
    @bakervinci163 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Funny intro. I can’t help but think it’s grandad’s sport. I take table tennis lessons from a guy. The guy I take from has played pickle ball 10 times and is better than anyone in the club that plays next to us.
    The fundamentals and foot work are the same for both sports.

  • @davejentsch824
    @davejentsch824 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Shoulder high, let it fly..

  • @crownator
    @crownator Pƙed 2 lety

    “Racquet”??

  • @cathleenblood6627
    @cathleenblood6627 Pƙed 2 lety

    Grampa, grandson? Yo guys, u are young! You must know that women play pickleball too!

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety

      Grandmas, granddaughters, wives, we don’t discriminate! 😊

  • @KendallGjevre
    @KendallGjevre Pƙed 2 lety

    Racket? You mean Paddle.

  • @tyrone-tydavis5858
    @tyrone-tydavis5858 Pƙed 2 lety

    Pickle ball bangers
    đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł
    Sounds like a 1980s porn title.

  • @AJCsr
    @AJCsr Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Shoulder high ?
    Let it fly...

  • @infomercialguy
    @infomercialguy Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Why do you want your weight on the front of your feet?

    • @PickleballJourney
      @PickleballJourney  Pƙed 2 lety

      It gets your weight shifting forward which prevents you from moving or falling back. And you tend to react quicker if on your toes vs heals

  • @adamwal4591
    @adamwal4591 Pƙed rokem

    Easy: do what most cowards do and hit it to their partner and avoid them.

  • @shirleyshanks3819
    @shirleyshanks3819 Pƙed 2 lety

    Hey knock it off with the ageism comments
lol
my grandson does even know how to play Pickelball

    I am just joking
 kindoff

  • @williamdwyer4727
    @williamdwyer4727 Pƙed 2 lety

    Bull

  • @15packman
    @15packman Pƙed rokem

    I don’t know, I like playing singles, and I like everyone to play to win
..you want to run to the kitchen immediately everytime, fine, but it’s within the rules to bang--no tears. Same with the guy that’s too fat to move ( did I say that?) he shuffles his way immediately to the kitchen and I lob one deep over his head
.and that’s cheating too
..seems to be lots of cry babies associated with Pickleball! Love the sport, can’t stand the crying.

    • @chrishennon8504
      @chrishennon8504 Pƙed rokem

      Yes, I’ve noticed a lot of whining about bangers - almost always from players that aren’t capable of hitting hard and/or have little success against them. If I’m banging and winning, I’m not going to play soft just to conform to the “right way to play”

  • @kenruppert8825
    @kenruppert8825 Pƙed rokem

    Bangers need to play tennis, not pickleball.

  • @murrayfarguson2013
    @murrayfarguson2013 Pƙed rokem

    Keep your shot low, period. It’s not rocket science.