The Inversion of Our True Myths with Betty Kovacs
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- Betty J. Kovacs, PhD, taught symbolic/mythic language for twenty-five years. She has served as Chair of the Board of Directors of the Jung Society of Claremont, California, and sits on the Academic Advisory Board of Forever Family Foundation. Dr. Kovacs is author of Merchants of Light: The Consciousness That Is Changing the World, winner of The Scientific and Medical Network 2019 Book Prize and a Nautilus Silver Award. She has also written The Miracle of Death: There Is Nothing But Life. Her website is www.kamlak.com.
Here she maintains that, throughout the world, original myths describe our connection with an invisible world in which we partake of immortality. This is expressed in ancient cave cultures and shamanistic traditions. It can be found is esoteric culture worldwide. In particular she focuses on myths concerning the Tree of Life. She suggests that this myth was inverted by the Deuteronomists around 620 BCE and that this inversion has shaped Western culture, and caused much suffering.
New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in "parapsychology" ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980).
(Recorded on May 11, 2020)
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Betty Kovacs, The Miracle of Death: There is Nothing But Life - amzn.to/3cwv7NM
Margaret Barker, The Great Angel: A Study of Israel's Second God - amzn.to/3cqL5Jc
Jean Clottes & David Lewis-Williams, The Shamans of Prehistory - amzn.to/2Lncdgq
Bradford Keeney, The Bushman Way of Tracking God - amzn.to/2zxj1FF
Goethe, Faust - amzn.to/2YZSjQw
Studies in the Hegelian Dialectic - amzn.to/3dHw71F
Karl Kerényi, En El Laberinto - amzn.to/3dG6L4j
Frances Yates, The Rosicrucian Enlightenment - amzn.to/3bq3V1H
Frances Yates, Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition - amzn.to/2T20EQ0
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Listening to this interview just made my whole body feel alive. Dr Betty Kovacs has transformed her suffering to make so much meaning for the rest of us who are ready to take these teachings and make something of it in our lives. I feel a sense of hope for the earth.
I feel lucky to have met and become friends with Betty years ago. She was no less enthusiastic about Life itself then than she is now. It's especially touching to hear her speak in these times when so many other teachers have faded into a sort of quiet despair. Thanks for this offering! Wonderful to learn about your programs, too, Dr. Mishlove!
"If we do not know who we are, we can be controlled" Dr. Betty Kovacs states so simply in this most inspiring talk with Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove. Almost every sentence she spoke resonated so deeply with me, and I kept exclaiming 'Yes, Yes, Yes!" as I took in today's new interview. Several times I needed to pause in order to digest the rich 'nougats of knowledge' in which Dr. Kovacs synthesized deep and ancient understandings of the mysteries of life and death. She spoke of how the unseen world that is all around us can help us to create meaning and a sense of order, even/ especially in the times of great chaos and suffering (such as the times we are living in now). What an aptly timed release of this interview! Thank you to all who made it possible, and brought it from the unseen realm (of thought and inspiration) into the realm of form, from which we can see and hear, and be nourished by, just as the Goddess nourishes us by reminding us of who we truly are.
Betty Kovack is a gentile scholar. She presents her understanding thoughtfully with quiet enthusiasm. She is a delightful scholar.
I am not a scholar; I am an Intuitive Learner, therefore, I have deep respect for those who have adopted that style of learning and understanding.
What a wonderful interview, thank you. As is often the case, I was impressed by how much Jeffrey Mishlove's wide-ranging knowledge contributes to broadening the discussion and bringing out the guest.
Yes (o: Very well-said!
Jeffrey's expansive knowledge and incredible memory are awesome to witness, interview after interview. I agree!
I'm just blown away. What a great interview Jeffrey and thank you Betty Kovacs for sharing your knowledge, candor, and gracious manner
This was fantastic and what privilege to listen to such an astute intelligent women, she has so much to offer. I can't wait to hear her again, such an enrichment, much appreciated.
Excellent interview you find the most insightful guests and the synchronicities your show creates in my world are incredible. Thanks Jeffrey
@stephen miller Looks like I might not be allowed in this thread. Please excuse me.
This is a gem of a conversation. Betty is a pleasure to listen to and both she and Jeffrey have really good energy together here as an exploration team.
That was an amazing interview, so deep and insightful. Would love to hear Betty again. Thank you Dr. Mishlove.
Excellent interview Jeffrey. Thank you both so much.
This comment by Betty Kovacs: To have God tell us that "from dust you will return to dust." It seems like a horrific thing to say to someone, but it certainly was to try to get us too know we are nothing.. I immediately purchased her book. I've always felt that with my upbringing in the churches and felt a loss of my spirit like it wasn't mine anymore. I've long sence been away from most all religions and I'm not atheist, I'm just "Me" with my own Spirit swiming in a river of knowledge. Thank you Jeffrey Mishlove another great guest interview
This is so wonderful, thank you both so much!!!!!
A very nourishing conversation, thank you !!
Thank you for helping put the pieces together ❤
Brilliant. Thank you.
Such clarity. Such beautiful minds. Such a gift. 🙏
Wonderful interview. She is such a fascinating thinker.
Love this interview, also both of you . Thank you
How enjoyable is this interview!
Just found your channel. Amazing! What a great introduction with this interview. Although our world is crazy, consciousness is starting to become part of the "norm." Hopefully during lockdown people take advantage of this time and see how wonderful they are, when we go deep within ourselves. Thank you.
Great interview. Dr Kovacs knows her stuff. Myth is a poorly understood topic and is usually equated with the word "lie." But the purpose of all myth is to lead one back to oneself, which, ironically, is in the direction of the ultimate Truth.
My favorite interview! Thank you for sharing the Truth, and mentioning Margaret Barker's fantastic work.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent presentation. Many thanks.
I love this woman, amazing
I loved this interview. Thank you for conducting and sharing it.
We are moving upward toward Light. The parisidical nature will fall away I believe.Oh I most CERTAINLY enjoy your shows .
wonderful! thank you, betty. thank you, jeffrey! 🤍
Excellent program, yet again!!! A million gracias and a mega ton of gratitude. Cheers
Excellent interview. I wonder if Betty sees the ultimate source of the Bible as being from the mythology of the Vedas? I'll be buying her book. Thank you Jeffrey Mishlove and Betty Kovacs.
Insightful lady indeed. Thank you!
great interview, Thank you so much!
Love this interview ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️🙏🙏🙏
This was a very wonderful interview. Thank you both so much. Much love. :)
Important message for today!
Thank you!
Im glad i watched until the end.
Luria introduces first hierarchical step, to which Kulish adds the throughout universal rule of hierarchical resemblance(what above is below as the simplest format)
The concept of hitlabshut ("enclothement") implies a radical shift of focus in considering the nature of Creation. According to this perspective, the chief dynamic of Creation is not evolutionary, but rather interactional. Higher strata of reality are constantly enclothing themselves within lower strata, like the soul within a body, thereby infusing every element of Creation with an inner force that transcends its own position within the universal hierarchy. Hitlabshut is very much a "biological" dynamic, accounting for the life-force which resides within Creation; hishtalshelut, on the other hand, is a "physical" one, concerned with the condensed-energy of "matter" (spiritual vessels) rather than the life-force of the soul.[7]
Due to this deeper, more internal paradigm, the new doctrines Luria introduced explain Kabbalistic teachings and passages in the Zohar that remained superficially understood and externally described before.
This was so good,
Brilliant, as always. Thank you.
Thank you for posting!!
Wonderful.
We are ONE
Great discussion, thank you and the best wishes to all 😊😊😊
Loved it
"Manage all your actions, words, and thoughts accordingly, since you can at any moment quit life."
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"I harvest the wisdom of my free will."
Thanks Jeffrey for yet Another turn on,,,to Bradford Keeney!
So long overdue SUPERB BRILLIANCE at still my favorite channel: this recording is pure gold. If Jeff allows I will respond with a longer comment.
Thank you for this
Yewwww another great one, thanks.
so moving to hear about the san. Those of your guests who have worked with tribal and traditional cultures ae the ones who were genuinely and seriously involved with them. Not like the post modernists nihilists who simply use the existence of alternate beliefs and cultures for convenience, just to deny the existence of all meaning. To destroy rather than to build.
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The Keeney story is awesome. Far out!
How the heck is your comment 1 week old when this video was uploaded to CZcams 3 days ago?!
Excellent comment about hide-and-seek in the trickster nature of our being
I would love to hear more about how Judaism took a wrong turn with Moses!!
Charming storyteller, with a somewhat distorted image about Time and history, as she seems to believe that the Egyptian's records of the Tree of life and immortality is older than the Sumerian's (although she has never been to Egypt, according to herself) and she is surprised to hear from Jeffery that there are older stories out there, before the Jewish and Egyptian versions! It's a good thing though, that she likes the possibility of the older stories existing and the idea of going back to them, when we are lost.
From what I understand there are 3 consequent fundamental phases of Kabbalah within the mains stream understanding of it: Zokhar, Luriea and a very recent Kulish theological physics. for some reason at some point won sympathy of some elements of US science and technology establishment. This theological physics is based on a sort of morphological model that is postulated as a universal , fundamental law of physics throughout Universe- the model would be a Tree of Life . Dr Kulish managed to create very sophisticated mathematics for this model and applied in some very interesting area as in lasers and it worked as what we know free electron laser. IN USSR they had their own internal patent to that tech to mr Kulish name from what i heard. Mind that Puthoff and Targ both were in lasers
They've recreated all these forms in the laboratory at Los Alamos high energy experiments using plasma . I don't understand how nobody has heard about the Thunderbolts group and their study of comparative mythology and it's correlation to high-energy plasma experiments also known as the electric universe or plasma cosmology
Just saw a thing on the thunderbolts group and their work
@Miss Information your on the right track going down the rabbit hole and I'll give you some clues inorganic beings, witiko, the Anthony Larsen don't let his Mormonism dissuade you from his thesis
@Miss Information the E T s are us the are extra terrestrial AKA more than apes and from the terrestrial realm another hint is ancient man was much more advanced neanderthals were the original and their bloodline and the Cro-Magnon bloodline are in a war symbolized by eagle and serpent also our history is a lie . Thanks for responding I love the interaction I wouldn't have this world any other way than it accepting the present moment is security
Always excellent but how do we get to the centre... Ayuaska,mushrooms...how
We must rebuild the life in the soil! The forcing of annual plants, particularly *grain,* out of it has diminished it. Also got people thinking that “God” is male and somewhere up in heaven. See the connection, folks?
She is talking about the sabbatean frankists connection with rabbi Faulk in London which also was the mentor of Swedenborg.
Wonderful interview. I look forward to reading her book.
The inversion of the myth of the Tree of Life happens actually in two ways: on is the Biblical which suppresses the female elements and the other is modern Feminism that suppresses the male element.
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What about the tree of life though??! Unless I tuned-out briefly and missed it, Jeffrey skipped past that initially and never got back to it..
I am just wondering about the sward of the angel protecting the garden, could we assume that swards in the sky in ancient times represent a comet? there are few of them coming back over the ages, thank you.
31:30 Astute. L'chaim ;)
at 25:28 is she talking about the Winter king and Bohemia? Edit 33:10
The planets were Saturn Venus and Mars which connected to Earth's birkeland current which currently is in dark mode with the exception of the northern lights but these current connect all the planets poles and they connect to the poles
interesting
Shaman, mystic, scientist. Sounds like Depak.
If you look into the work of David Talbot who you should have as a guest and the work of Anthony Perattyou will come to see that the tree of life was written all over the world on petroglyphs well before any religion or civilization or culture had it as a symbol. And that is because it was originally a column of plasma that connected a polar configuration of planets scene in Earth's north pole
Not to take away from the spiritual significance and how they were interpreted by mankind as above so below
can we please change 'mankind' to 'humankind'? for so long men have been talking about other men as representing the whole of humankind, without even realizing that they were implicitly or explicitly excluding women with their language, systems and structures. Its time now for us all to find ways of consciously embracing the wholeness of who we are- masculine and feminine, in all we say and do. ..as Dr. Kovacs so beautifully reminds us in this conversation.
Yes, this unthinking distortion in our language is definitely one of the decayed things that needs to be reconsidered at this point.
Fredrick the Elector Pallatine. The Winter King
Psychadialectical Immaterialism
Man/woman is the tree.
You're talkin about the exact same thing coming to the same conclusions as the Thunderbolts group
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😳!
Dark is dark you can't find nothing in it, but problem is the light because light cast the shadows. Be aware of making no more shadows than already is, because sometimes you can be blinded by light. Light are emotions. Don't cover it with shadow of superficial meanings. Every meaning has root in emotion. That is why are archetypes so triggering. Don't make meaning from the shadows, that is just path of light distortion.
What if Moses was Pharaoh
How unattached to anything significant
Elaborate is the same as the swastika from looking at it from above and the same as the whirlpool and it is also a toroid field Aura vortexthis symbol was seen in the sky's kind of like Saturn's hexagon vortex storm that's been raging for years not to mention comets create a whirlpool vortex
I would love to hear this interview, but I am getting a commercial every 3 minutes. Sigjh.... tooo much
Thanks for letting me know. I have now eliminated commercials in the middle of this video.
31:40 characteristic of depressed (ie bipolar) thinking. The deployment of polarity by the ruling class is nothing new. Perhaps for King Josiah it still was.
king josiah was killed by egyptians
@@weepingprophet411 cuz that's related to his deployment of propaganda!
@@DC-wg1cr Nope, it means wisdom matters most than blind faith
Betty I have a story for you I must tell. Aloha. "purple people" yes them in the hills of Lafayette. borzou =1iMan
You'll have 20k more subscribers a year from posting this vid!
So many commercials!!!!
Hard to stay interested
Many channels I cannot watch because of the theft of my data by commercials. How could anyone truly take in this material with such horrible distractions as these commercials? I hope they pay off for your channel. Every 2 minutes is truly ridiculous
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Betty!!! Your dog is barking!!!
Darwin evolutionary theory has any place in this new thinking .
See czcams.com/video/TL-sqPSkp9I/video.html
Also czcams.com/video/nJwLmqpZ3w0/video.html
Always strange hearing new-agers talking about "Kundalini energy" outside of the Yogic context. It's become a buzzword that is overused and cheapened. Talk about cultural appropriation (here it was used to describe the energy of an Egyptian goddess I think). Stopped watching at that point.
If it's a real phenomenon, don't you think other cultures would also be aware of it? Kundalini may be the vedic word for something, but the thing itself belongs to everyone, wouldn't you say?
No one should ever try to understand the stories of the bible without referencing old Sumerican accounts of creation .... Otherwise you risk of seeing everything as symbol and allgeory when instead those stories were meant to be taken literraly, as historic facts ... and I cringe when the word "god" is used as if we all agreed on its meaning ... the bible, by the way, does not speak of "god", as the unique, transcendental, omnipotent etc being that we imagine ... not there at all ...
She has no idea what she’s taking about in regards to the “stories” in the Torah. Classic literal misinterpretation. Maybe she should open up the Zohar or the Eitz Chaim and learn about what “the garden” was really about. Classic “academic” arrogance when approaching a Living tradition. The Torah is so beyond a book of stories or myths, it’s laughable to see people treat it as such. It’s like looking at Tarot cards and thinking they are meant to play card games. Really wish people would actually study the living traditions before they pontificate about how they are “inverted.”
“She has no idea what she’s talking about” “learn about what the garden was “really” about”...perfect illustration of emotional arrogance. I feel it to be true, therefore it has to be. She is wrong, I am right.