3 Reasons Why Delilah isn't a Distraction | Guilty Gear -Strive-
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- Delilah is not a distraction and here are 3 reasons why she is genius game design
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You downloaded the Delilahless mod because you thought she was obstructing gameplay.
I downloaded the Delilahless mod because I want to keep her out of harms way.
we are not the same
Respect
To the backyard you go delilah
Real
You fucking genius. Thought it was gonna be a "she's cute so leave her in" kinda video. But this actually helps a lot. Thanks bro. Time to uninstall that no delilah mod
I mean... Theres also that reason.
Delilah's visual noise in the foreground can also be useful to obscure some of your decisions, or some of 6H's animation for example.
Yeah, but instead of reacting to the 6H animation, I'll react to Delilah standing and block high, it's kind of weird looking at 2 characters but if it helps in the match up (like for instance when there's an offline tournament and there's no mods) I'll "try my best" to take advantage
It funnily enough like Xrd bedman with his sigils in how they can clutter the screen.
I just like Delilah cause I think it’s really funny watching her just casually walk around while I’m beating the shit out of/getting the shit beat out of me by Bedman
Also- She’s just adorable, so-
dunno what a guilty gear is but i liked this video
Someone in replies are gonna teach you the whole lore get ready
sol badguy is the guilty gear™. thats the lore
@@Artemi22 thanks u
@@ralfian0234 you poor fool, it's so much more complicated than that, but I'll let you remain ignorant, for now, and in the meantime, find peace in it
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Delilah? I think you mean Bedma'am
I haven't heard that one before, that's genius😂😂😂
ppl have been eating error 6e hits I haven't set up at all lately and I'm choosing to believe the mod is why lol. maybe the blocking part is true, too, but I'm not really tuned in enough to notice it
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ishmael,,,
"When you're doing something right, people wont be able to tell if you've done anything at all".
Seriously, I look at Delilah and it's such a genius idea for a gimmick, to create a separate character for clarity that otherwise wouldnt be there
Doesnt add clarity though. harder to keep track of BM and Delilah together than it would be to just keep track of BM if he was on his own.
delilah to me is clearly intentionally a visual noise factor (like how xrd bedman had plenty of visual noise in his kit, as well as strive bedman having a bunch of ambiguous animations), and i think the argument that she gives you an extra thing to focus on convinces me of that more hahaha
Actually useful, thanks!
Glad I could help
Tbh the sound cue is the best way to tell error 6e BC it also gives timing info
NGL, having weird body language should be a Pro to playing a non human character, and having something, not only spell it out for you but also annoy the crap out of the controlling player at the same time, is a very weird choice by ArcSys. All of the points you mentioned are already shown by Bedman? itself, you don't need a cute girl to point it out for you.
You can get all the same tells from Bedman already, but when a non humanoid body is obscured by explosions and other debris, it could be hard to tell what they are doing when the morph a lot.
People who are used to it can tell, but Delilah will probably help a lot of people who aren't used to that get used to it a lot smoother
@@ozi-g-be Don't think anyone's considered players that in general have a hard time concentrating on the game when a non-playable character element is moving around. They ban stages in certain tournaments with many fighting games for this element alone, and not even just for the people that are super susceptible to it. Ravstar up there has a point that all of these things have a tell on the Bed itself if you're paying attention. Delilah's animations really aren't any better about being a tell since all of them are a variation of her cowering. Everything you said here in the video would be fine to me, if Delilah was at all consistent about where she stands on the screen. She seems to wander aimlessly from behind to in front of the Bed (which is the worst possible place for her to be for visual clarity) at seemingly random times.
And as an aside to anyone claiming its intentional to mask animations (ala Faust Bombs or something like that), I don't think that was actually intentional on a design front.
@@jaycehawthorne9541 Stages with moving parts *that affect gameplay* are banned. Delilah is completely cosmetic.
floor 9 bedman, never had an issue with her on screen tbh and my friends dont comment on it either, i dont ser the big deal
ok but we can also just look at bedman in order to know exactly what he's doing, and it's easier
only benefit in my book is that win animation is very cute
You could, imo Delilah is there in case someone isn't used to non humanoid character as a guide until they eventually get used to it
You're telling me it's hard for you to look at Bedman the whole time?
@@pancakes7483 what?
Dividing your attention to 2 different characters can do more harm than good
Paying attention to the position of 2 different entities will add to your mental stack significantly as Delilah does not always stay near bedman
I really don't think paying attention to delilah will make it any easier to defend against bedman
Seriously especially since you automatically enter 6e after certain moves so really you should always know it's coming well in advance
I don't get it Honestly, it isn't hard to ignore her tbh
:/
I think especially for people with attention problems, adding a whole 'nother moving part that does actions that can be more dramatic than the thing you're fighting initiates that 'new stimulant' response and makes you instinctively focus on her instead, which can be a big issue.
I see the mod more as an ADHD handicap than anything else
@@D1CKMASTER it's just a thing on the screen that covers bedmans animations sometimes and makes him harder to read
Interesting, I didn't notice that. This makes me appreciate arcsys even more for their attention to detail.
Even though there is a few times I hilariously forget Delilah isn't the character i'm fighting, I never considered it to be an issue. Being distracted by her sounds more like a personal problem, personally I think she adds more life to the wackiness of the game. Thanks for the guide though, I didn't even know her movements were indicators.
everytime im in the corner i cant tell whats going on when shes squished in there with me and i start looking at her instead of bedman without realizing and wonder why im not moving
Really well made video!
I’ve literally had delilah blocking what’s happening on the screen when I’m trying to block. Didn’t know there was a mod to remove her but I’m adding that shit.
Omg, the video had the opposite effect
That's actually hilarious 🤣
@@ozi-g-be same for me. The tells don't help when she is off screen for about half the game.
All it means is not only do i have to learn to read what bedman is doing on his own, i also have to learn what the small child means when she blocks my view.
And then 90% of the time she won't even be giving you the tells bc of error 6e.
Ye she needs to go.
@@gman1515 well to that I'd say that's the thing that makes Bedman a good character to use, cuz when you are in error 6e and you're able to retain it (cus it goes away on block or hit) bedman's reward is his mixup being obscured,(he is kinda slow so this helps him)
Just think of it as Chipp's "find me" special move in the previous GG games, it's use is to make Chipp hard to see and the MF is already fast af, this isn't so bad compared to that,
Definitely not as obnoxious as not being able to safe jump Baiken in strive at all because of parry.
_"Mission Failed, we'll get 'em next time-"_
@@gman1515 but like that's literally cheating if ur playing against someone else using bedman, it's taking away a advantage or a attribute of character because u don't like dealing with it.
Voice reveal let's gooooo
Enjoyed this.
Good call, we should replace delilah with a giant white square to hide even more
Literally just another mattress lol
Delilah being a distraction??? *Laughs in Ferra/Torr
People will complain and remove her regardless, it's their choice if they find the Delilah tells more helpful or more annoying.
Good Kid Outro, what a great choice.
Their music is so great, they jumped top my top 2 bands after I discovered them last year.
This was made in good faith but, even while watching the video there were times where Delilah mad my eyes flicker to more then one place. I’m not against fighting the character but my brain can’t help but notice and occasionally be distracted by her, especially if she’s too close to me as the opposing character.
Thats a real problem actually, especially when you actively try to ignore her
That's why I thought to recognize her and her tells as part of things from the character I can react to during gameplay
Rather than ignore her,
Cus if I ignore her she doesn't go away and now becomes visual noise.
But if I see her as a reaction tool rather than a distraction (although harder) it's probably better than getting distracted
Don't know how effective this approach is but I hope it helps
Edit: spelling and grammar
@@ozi-g-be that's definitely a good idea, though that might be more useful if the person she accompanied was human.
Because his movements and attacks are also unorthodox, the jumble of it all can become a cluttered mess. Idk if that's how it is for anyone else, but I know this is definitely something that can mess up me specifically.
Similar issues happen in another game I play called bbtag. Sometimes the insane amount of effects and back and forth between switching characters also adds to visual clutter lol
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Thanks for a 100 subs
So is Bedman's intro just him falling from the sky for no reason?
I wouldn't let my lil sis fight Pot, sol or anyone from GG on her own😂
Then why does she walk away from the bed? What if I dont want to see delilah when im up against them
Reason 9: I just think she's neat
also why would you remove her shes just vibing and i really love how it looks
I actually thought this a while back but was like whatever not gonna bother looking into it, to think it was real, props man subbed
Delilah is precious, she must be protected! D:
and why the F do you want to get rid of her anyways?! xD
keep your eyes on the Opponent not on her during combat! xD
I really think a comprise wouldn't be that hard just move her to the mid-ground and she's less visual noise while still being there
IS THAT GOOD KID IN THE END????
I FUCKING LOVE GOOD KID
YES IT IS,
Their Music is soo good(pun intended), especially the EP 3
Good content. Yeah sometimes mods aren't the way to go
Bedman? Can oneshot Chipp!!
So can 50% of the roster
🥲
Us Chipp mains live in hard times
But I guess if it's in one hit, it only Ram and Bedman?
Or I could just look at the bed
That works too😀
He's crouching or standing, can see that on him just by looking.
his overheads you can see the animation wind up so much easier if delilah wasnt there
6e? really? ppl cant tell off of looking at him that he's in 6e?
because 😭😭😭
BROOO I CAN BLOCK HIM NOW OMG LOL
id rather just learn his animations because she often blocks what happens on the screen and paying attention to 2 different entities just to know his animations sounds ass
I mean learning to play around every guilty gear character gameplay gimmicks is ass to begin with😂, so this is really nothing.
But jokes aside yes, you should try and learn Bedman?'s animations first, but can use Delilah as a complimentary telegraph of the character's actions and not the main thing you pay attention to.
Those are some incredibly unreliable reasons to keep her in game. Crouch animation that's delayed from Bed's actual crouch input. 5S and 5H showing Delilah in a crouch-like animation, which can look like 2S. "Can easily be obscured by Gameplay Debris". Is off screen a lot of the time if bedman is rushing you down from corner to corner or doing beyblade > 6e Followup.
The worst thing is she pops in and out of background and foreground in some circumstances which means she just phases between planes sometimes.
I honestly barely notice her at all while playing. I never realized so many people were so easily distractable.
@@itsaUSBline I have adhd. Thats why she’s gone
The time between me starting to look for a no Delilah mod and the mod releasing was delightfully short
They should really just put her off to the side, that way people who want to look at her can, and people who want to look at the actual character also can
The problem is that she does obscure way too much
Why is delilah on the foreground instead of in the background
Who made that decision
Imma download no bedman
why are people removing the silly little goober are they insane
Sorry I tried watching the video but Delilah was in front of it so I couldn't see it
All of this is right ofc, but what about people who can read Bedman? (or any non-human character) perfectly without extra hints? I mean, she IS kinda distracting. At least when I'm not focused on the game much, like, i'm being tired or chill as hell.
It just shouldn't be allowed period. Visual clutter is part of the character, learning to deal with it both as and against bedman, so removing an aspect of that is cheating.
cute and funny !! 😭😭😭
You will have to answer for this at the pearly gates
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cope
I actually dislike mods, i wont even watch uploaded replays if there are mods enabled.
They really should have just locked her to the background.
I get that she's a tell but my friends got adhd
Great now I know it's 100% not worth it to have Delilah in the game, not worth it to have to take my eyes off the actually dangerous part of the character.
Fair, but the annoyance factor vs the tiny tells she gives isn’t wourth in my opinion. There’s just too much shit on the screen with her there.
Yeah that's true, I guess I got used to her being on screen especially when she doesn't cover what the opponent is doing when using Bedman?
with delilah on the screen it's literally just a 1.1v1 it's not that bad lmfao
Faust, Jacko, and Zato exist there is no excuse as to how Delilah is more distracting when they do worst lol
@@pancakes7483
You mean you don’t have to pay attention to Eddie, minions and Faust’s stuff?
@@raywing00 faust is rng so I can't control what comes out and some of the items I don't have to pay attention to because they don't affect me or even if I or someone else has it then it doesn't matter unless it's the shitty trumpet. Zato doesn't have to care about Eddie because he always comes back and fast than you think. Jacko does have to pay attention to her servants but even then so that's just her but her xrd version they were also distracting but no one said anything though. The point was that it doesn't make sense to get pissy over Delilah in the match when she also fix the whole bedman concept. Bedman is a character that wants you to put shit on screen. He's been like this since they first came out in xrd. Removing his sister will make it easier for people who are fighting Bedman to see what's going on because Delilah is not there along with the explosions.
"My gimmick main is actually balanced" type cope.
I don't even main this character 😂...yet,
And I know my other character's gimmicks are not balanced cuz Chipp is cracked regardless of health
(Ok that might be cope)
idk why fighting game players can't admit the developers fked up on this one
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Bruh, she’s 12 go touch grass
@@breadaholic6445?
Literally how?
@@mikeas0216 wym what, look up the word he said
Dumb reasons. You claim she's "Not a distraction" then immediately say "watch her actions to see what Bedman might be doing." How about no? How about you look at the actual character you're facing? The fact the mod exists at all is evidence enough the design decisions were poor. Gameplay should always come first especially in a technical fighting game where you have to watch your opponent closely. Not every fantasy idea can translate and still fit well in readability and gameplay. Nothing should clutter or obfuscate the view of the gameplay elements you need to keep track of. Pokemon trainer did it right. Way in the background, barely involved in the actual ring. I love GG, I love the DESIGN of Bedman, but it was dumb to implement it this way, full stop.
Pretty sure the mod existing is more evidence that people will do literally anything to not adapt anything slightly different from their usual playstyle.
A lot of people also thought Potemkin was top tier, because they kept getting thrown for dumb mistakes. Fighting game hot takes plus a dollar are worth 99 cents.
What is she distracting you from if she conveys the same thing as Bedman? ?(the times she's even onscreen btw),
If there's a clear & easy method to overcome these "distractions" then why not use it?
she's even more of a detriment to the Bedman player than to the opponent, cus she actually telegraphs all of bedman's attacks faster than Bedman performs it.
@@ozi-g-be Its a disconnect from the primary target your focus should be on. Having a secondary target that can telegraph some things just complicates.
Even doing that, its hard to see what's happening when Bedman is sparking, rolling, contorting with limbs that are not natural or easy to track.
I will admit I did not know she could telegraph some of these things, but Id still push back and say why not just have all that conveyed by the primary target in the first place?
It really just simply boils down to function should always come before form, at least in a highly competitive, fast paced fighting game where tracking and focusing on actions is essential. Just my 2 cents not saying its objectively right, just that a mod existing for removing her and some of these points make sense when you look at it this way.
Bad take. It's a design aspect of the character, so you have to learn to play against it. Removing it is cheating.
@@Nico-zt5jl Badder take. Its putting form over function which is extremely stupid in a competitive video game. The fact the mod exists at all is evidence its stupid. Arc Sys Works is far FAR from perfect.
she ruins the game, this mod is a lifesaver. Crouch/stand diff is completely useless and looking at Delilah for flinch/error is more of a disadvantage than not. She’s just clutter