Room Correction: Why even bother? (Audyssey, "Dynamic EQ", PB-4000)
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To be certain, this video was not meant to be shot at Denon. I enjoy their AVR's and hope to get my hands on some new models at some point.
Some people buy these higher performing AVR's without realizing everything they can do. I still don't know all of the tricks myself, but I know that running Audyssey is time well spent, especially if you're sure to follow the directions.
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Dynamic EQ certainly brings a lot to the table. If you never run Audyssey, at least with my AVR, Dynamic EQ is not an option.
Got the PB-4000's set up and running, now I just need to run room correction!
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I stopped buying warranties 25yrs ago and I did the math. If I bought warranties for every product I own over $500 it would have cost me over 35k and in that time I would have claimed about 4k in repairs or replacements. They want you to buy the warranty for a reason.
I hated Audyssey when I first got my Denon X3400H but that is because I ran it wrong. I decided to buy a real tripod and run it again 2 weeks ago and its AMAZING! It transformed my HT like nothing else. I cannot believe what I was missing out on. Run it right and it will do wonders for your HT.
Great point, done wrong it makes more of a mess than it fixes!
Importantly, you don't want to take samples too far apart. Audyssey recommends no further than 2 feet from the first sample.
Check out my Bass Hack video series. Changing crossover, gain settings and subwoofer distance values can further improve the overall sound.
What are your audyssey configurations ? I have a 2400H and will buy a tripod too ^^
When I had lower quality front speakers, Audyssey made a huge improvement when listening in stereo. When I upgraded to audiophile speakers ($5K/pair) it barely sounded any different after room correction. In surround mode, the center speaker blends much more smoothly after calibration though. It also allows you to use different brands of center/rear and still sound cohesive. I would never buy an AV receiver that doesn't have top notch room correction these days.
Finally pulled the trigger on a PB1000. Got to say the difference is huge between this and any sub I have owned before. It makes everything sound realistic, more cinematic.Made me realise how boomy my old subs were. My old subs got down to 30hz so I always thought was it really worth going down to 20hz but now realise it’s not just going down to 20hz that makes these subs special its everything they do up to the cross over point that is head and shoulders above what I had before. Effortless power, realistic sound, even seems to make the mids better on the main speakers, I guess because it’s not swamping the sound will bloated bass. My advise to anyone on the side lines, just buy them, it’s the best upgrade I have ever made to my home theatre
Can’t wait to hear your review and impressions of the pb-4000
THAT SUB MAGICALLY MOVED OUT OF ITS BOX.
I just received my Spear and munsil disc today and I got it calibrated and it made a major difference on my display it looks like I went out and bought a brand new TV. the colors really pop.thank you so much for recommending this wonderful disc. I should have definitely bought this disc a lot sooner. It's absolutely amazing how much different the picture looks when you get the contrast and the black level right and the color . I am absolutely amazed. Great video on microphone calibration. I always use the microphone on the calibration to get the levels and distance is right. You are absolutely right on that video called Sarah on a hammock this is a perfect way to set up the motion smoothing you are able to see how to set it up. I definitely recommend this spear & munsil this to anyone that needs your TV to look better.
Definitely agree with using a 2 foot measuring space (from your main listening position) when moving your Audyssey mic while doing your room correction. After I tried it I found I had much better imaging between speakers. Great advice !!!!!!!
Huge help. Always had Dynamic EQ off and the sub trim +8 from what Audyssey said
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Glad you got the pb-4000's, been waiting for you to get those to hear the review.
Is that the new Great pyrenese sub"woofer" in the middle?
Rare white/cream Tibetan Mastiff.
Good thoughts on room EQ. It has a big role in making it work with a rooms issues.
I really like D&M products. I was a Pioneer Elite guy for 30 years and I feel that Audyssey is a step up these days.
I have seen your point about the level of room EQ on the equipment. I have a Marantz 5010 and it does a great job with the room it is in. I also recently picked up a Marantz 7704 Pre/Pro and the level of options and fine tuning on it is awesome. Love my room now.
Can’t wait to see your review of the PB4000’s.
I have Decided to upgrade my dual PC 2000’s with PC 4000’s.
Sadly we have been waiting for them because of US customs has delayed them.
I’m sure they’ll be worth the wait.
Dyn EQ is nice, but if you have Surround Speakers then it turns them up too high and ruins the clarity of your Surround
Roland Rohde I like the sound of dynamic eq , even with multi channel music, love it
The bad room correction sounds better than no correction because most rooms have similar issues. I've got a huge spike at 800-1000hz and I've seen it in a lot of other peoples results too.
Shhh. Don't wake the doggie.
I understand this is out of topic a bit....But will connecting a DSP to my subwoofers ( like a miniDSP) Make the sound better in quality?. Will it make the bass less boomy and more flattened out with potentially a deeper punch?.
My center dialog can sometimes be hard to hear. I have denon x4400 .I ran audessey then used spl and made center 2db hotter. All c/o on 80. Any advice or is this based on source. Notice it more with blu Ray's. Dynamic eq on. Dynamic volume off
The Epic Savage , I have a Denon AVR and after running Audyssey MultEQ and turning on Dynamic EQ, I decided to turn up my center channel by +1.5 db. Before that, I felt that movie dialogues were a bit lacking in volume compared to the rest of the sound effects. I think it's ok to tweak a bit and not rely 100% on room correction.
Turn off dyn EQ and center get clear again
Recommend you put a cooling fan ontop of your avr. Heat plus electronics = failure of elec parts
I like the idea of added cooling, I just need one well under 30dB so that I can't here it. The refrigerator in the kitchen is too loud for my liking. It's not terrible, but it's enough to notice. Any recommendations?
@@Subwoofer101 I use a laptop cooling fan www.ebay.com.au/itm/USB-Cooling-Big-Fan-Blue-LED-Light-Cooler-Pad-Stand-for-15-Laptop-PC-Notebook/273996586296?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 plug it in USB port behind avr.
You probably can get one of these cheaper on US ebay.
This thing is whisper quiet and it keeps my Marantz Av8805 cool,as a cucumber.
It sits over the vents of the AVP and extracts heat extremely well.
My mate also uses one on his Denon 3808 AVR and loves how it keeps his unit cool.
Can't wait to see the reviews for the pb4000
AudioReviewChannel I was just about to ask for a PB4000 review, I have dual pb12-nsd and thinking about upgrading. I am wondering if it's worth the huge price difference for dual pb4000.
Rj in a week or so I will get them also to test and see and I will give you some feedback if the review will not be released till then. But without test them I m sure the difference will be huge in terms of power, low frequency output and control via the app. Would be a great upgrade.
Thanks for the video. I've used room correction for a few years or so now. Starting with the bog-standard Audyssey Mult-EQ on my Onkyo TX-NR626, and now since my upgrade to the Denon x6300H, Audyssey's flagship Mult-EQ XT32 with Dual SubEQ. I like Audyssey, and whilst XT32 is world's apart in superior room correction over the basic Mult-EQ, both are beneficial and better than not using them. I once used Dynamic Volume for some time with my Onkyo, but since changing rooms, along with changing to the Denon AVR, Dynamic Volume has always been deactivated.
Anyways, as for Audyssey DynamicEQ, I agree with you. Personally, it's absolutely necessary for any content mixed at reference levels (so movies), and I've used it also for numerous big budget modern-day TV dramas I bought on Blu-Ray and again it sounds awesome. Personally I don't see why it's such a controversial issue with audio enthusiasts, since Audyssey clearly did their homework on this one and without DynamicEQ activated almost everything sounds lifeless. However, for non-reference level mixed content (so for example computer/video games - it must be deactivated for my PS4), its a big "No-no", but then DynamicEQ isn't designed, nor indeed, intended for use with non-reference level mixed content, and even Audyssey would advise it being deactivated for such content.
I've read many times on different audiophile forums and threads that some people use the room correction settings for delays etc. but then spurn DynamicEQ (even for reference level content), instead opting to make their own adjustments manually. Whilst there will always be a facet of subjectivity involved as we tend to hear and like things differently to one another, I wonder what makes these people think they can better and more accurately replace DynamicEQ and its capable, complex algorithms (designed purposefully to objectively maintain octave-to-octave balance in the sound-field when reference level content is replayed back at a volume below reference level) by making their own adjustments based on their own hearing?
In summary, the moral of this long-winded post is, just use Audyssey DynamicEQ (for reference mixed content), it's knows what it's doing and it sounds bloody awesome.
That's funny in a perverse way! Sitting here listening to audiophile quality jazz internet channel. Adjusted my 3200 ,heresy,paradigm sub based on you and svs. Funny part is it helps st the writhing in pain from fibro!!!almost missed your comment. Thanks for all the help! Unfortunately here in Canada no such thing as deal on svs like you got fifty percent off!!oh well still rocking on learning and coping!!!
+Len Ward Music is very therapeutic!
You might look into laser therapy. LLLT, or low level laser therapy has made a huge difference for me. No pain pills for 2 years now. It's expensive, and you would need a home unit (office visits would be way too expensive, I treat myself daily) but it has reduced the pain dramatically.
Still have the brain fog, flare ups, etc...but I have a way to dial back the intensity of the pain to a mild discomfort, as opposed to the usual panic inducing "blackness". It's straight up sci fi medical treatment.
Subwoofer 101 very cool thanks will check out!music and old radio detective shows are a morphine parallel.
+Len Ward Look for a 5 hertz frequency, super pulsed laser, class 1 is safe and less expensive. I've tried numerous frequencies (the parallel with audio is striking BTW) and 5 hertz seems to address the fibromyalgia pain the best. Frequency sweeps are good too. 5-250 hertz and 5-1000 hertz are good too, but for me 5 hertz has to be involved.
Super pulsed fire the laser on the order of nanoseconds, so high power, incredibly short duration. Safer, and penetrates the tissue the deepest. When I finally treated my hips, it was a striking improvement. Didn't feel so "rusty".
You need to run audyssey over and over trying different positions until you are happy with the effects. I've found doing 4 sets stationary and then 4 sets moving the mic around the listening space gives me the best results.
Thank you for another helpful video! If I'm forced to put a couple of my speakers against the wall or in a corner will audyssey help with that?
subwoofer 101 have you ever tried turning off the audyssey and listening to pure sound without equalization? what do you think ?
Hi. have important question. Im found out that the normal room meseuring ist absolute crap because of the Lack of prcessorpower of the denon avr. Just the multieq app can handle those mesure data. When i add the dynamiceq Future in the app and send this Settings to the avr the Sound ist absolutely nice!. The Problem ist that denon do not enough to Tell that this is important for this lovely Sound. Why is that.? They put a product in the Market that could be a ferarri but its only a Ford...... with the regular mesurement. Do You have similar experiance with that?
Have an older house with wooden floors just like yours. My plugs were not properly grounded. Components died ALL THE TIME. Took my main plug, ran its own ground into an 8 foot copper rod outside. Have not lost a component yet. May want to consider that power could be killing you in this area.
No ground? Scary!
does Dynamic EQ limit overall volume output? I believe that's in the night o clock, they not getting reference level.
1.08 dog helps get sub out box :D btw, is that a Great Pyrenese/Pyrenean Mountain Dog?
White one is a Tibetan Mastiff, she was born blue, then turned white. She's always mistaken for a Great Pyrenees because she's female (less of a main) and the nomadic type (Do-Khyi), rather than the more chunky type that look like huge Chows (Tsang-Khyi). I know her breeder, and her mother, father, and sister have the more traditional coloring.
Her attitude and temperament is 100% Tibetan Mastiff. Impressive dog, but definitely not a starter dog, she tries to play Jedi mind tricks on me, but I'm wise to her shenanigans. Very old soul, with a penchant for mischief.
The black one is a Newfoundland with a little bit of Great Pyrenees. He's a loveable clown, but not nearly as complex and intelligent as the Tibetan. Goofy Newfy absolutely applies. Both are pretty amazing.
Is this an apartment?
Audyessy needs updating badly, it’s being left way behind badly by ARC and Dirac
Subwoofer 101 - Awesome videos. I have the Marantz Slimline 1607 Receiver, Boston Acoustic A260 floor standers and about to pull the trigger on SVS SB12-NSD. Great subwoofer for $399. I wish I could find one with Piano Black. No more available. I plan to use the room correction on the 1607 to achieve optimum sound. We will see how it goes.
Any plans on reviewing Monolith THX series subwoofers?
To answer your question, I purchased a Sunfire Cinema Grand 5-channel power amp hometheaterhifi.com/volume_3_3/v3n3f.html in March 1999. I've never had a moments issue with it and am still using it 7-days a week. I used to use preamps, but for the last 14 years, I've been buying higher-end receivers (preouts for each channel) when there were upgrades I was interesting in adding to my system. Much quicker and more economical upgrade path than preamps. Currently using a Marantz SR6009 with the Sunfire. It is getting harder to get a reasonably priced receiver w/preouts.
Hi. My question isn't really related specifically to this video (it is a subwoofer question though!), but it seems like you reply to a lot of comments and I think you might be able to help me out.
I've got a fairly modest hifi setup (Cambridge Audio stereo amp and some Mission bookshelf speakers) and I recently got a very good deal on a second hand Paradigm PDR-10 subwoofer (I think its about 10 years old but only cost £35). I have it connected to my amp using the sub's "speaker level input" connection in parallel with my speakers.
I want to check that the phase is correct. I have it wired in phase with my speakers (+ & - going to the correct terminals on both speakers and sub). The sub doesn't have a phase switch and the vague "all models covered" manual just says "if you don't think the phase is correct then simply reverse the speaker wire connections". But how do I know if its correct or not? Should it be in phase or out of phase with my speakers? I'm struggling to tell the difference between either of them. What would be the default option in this situation?
Sorry for my vague and rambling question. But you seem like the man to talk to about this!
+Dan Xepha With that setup, you are pretty limited. I'm not picking on you or your setup, but if you don't have a dedicated subwoofer output, the tricks I employ are probably not available. I use distance to alter phase, rather than the phase switch or phase dial on the sub.
You're going to want to try it both ways and trust your ears. Go with whichever polarity sounds the "fullest", so long as you don't have any ear pressure issues.
If it sounds fuller, but it kind of hurts your ears, go with the more comfortable polarity. You can also physically alter the distance between the speakers and the sub.
By moving the sub closer than the speakers, you're changing the relative timing, in theory the same way I do by changing the distance in the AVR.
Try making the sub 4 feet closer than the speakers with the standard polarity. Then try 4 feet further away than the speakers (maybe by bringing the speakers forward and leaving the sub against the wall?). Play around with it and see what works best.
I understand that the layout may not be viable long term, but it should be informative. Reversed polarity might do the trick, and maybe do a foot or two distance change to find the right position. I don't have a simpler suggestion, it's a lot of trial and error.
I do all of these timing changes using the AVR, you just have to do it physically. Unless you have a sub output and all of the distance options, that would change the game.
The right timing will sound the fullest while not causing discomfort.
Ironically this video could be seen as making a solid case to not even bother with room correction. Works better run in the wrong room? Has to run every time you change anything in the room?
But love your videos overall. Turned me on to SVS subs. Thanks.
Hi I just purchased an SPL meter and I was wondering how to use it. What do I set my volume at when testing my Yamaha 3030 receiver set the volume to zero when I run the mic do I set it to 0 or my normal listening volume. Also this would be a pretty good topic for a video. Any tips would be helpful keep up the good work.
What is the best way to run a ypao mic i put my mic on the back of the coach and i run 2 positions right next to eachother. Am i correct any tips would be much appreciated.
I'm typically not a fan of the built in room EQs. I find that on my current amp (sony str dn1020) and on my friends receiver is horrendous. I do realize I need a better amp but even with that said our audio sounded more alive and present. I feel like room eqs put a harsh filter on the sound
Hows the PB4000 compared to the PB16 ? I have an SB16 Im thinking about going ported, I feel as have I'm missing certain dynamics in my movie experience by having a sealed subwoofer.
+Trinimack Ported subs do have an advantage as they are more efficient. Check out my gain hack video if you haven't already. With a sealed sub, increased gain is even more important. You can also adjust the PEQ's to add a little more output under 30 hertz, or take a little off above 60 hertz.
The gain hack should help if you haven't already done it. -8 on the SB-16 and lower on the AVR subwoofer level to taste. You could even try -4 to -7 on the SB-16 I'm not sure about much more though. Almost never a good idea to run full tilt on audio gear.
Whichever path you take, duals will make a substantial difference. I preferred dual PB-2000's to a single PB-16 Ultra, which is awesomeness incarnate. Duals have that much of an impact.
As for the comparison, stay tuned.
Have you tried the audyssey app ?
Cut it bro. First 6 minutes talk on warranty; make another video on warranty. Respect our time. Haha.
Your time is in your own hands. Don't blame the length of a video or a book for your decision to engage it. You must be under 25 years of age. SMH
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt He's giving feedback. Title should reflect the content.
@@JJTeam-yr6tb No. Stating the first 6 minutes is on warranty is an outright lie. You defending his "feedback" is the kind of B.S. we don't need.
Definitely skipped a lot and realized how much I had to skip to actually talk about the audyssey
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt And how old are you, Sir? Certainly sound retired. If 6 is a "lie", is "5 and a half" truth? Its for the benefit of the channel owner to receive feedback in good stride. It can help the channel grow. The point being - I rarely returned to the channel after watching this video. We all want efficient information.
Denon AVR 3805 1st with auto eq. I have never plugged the mic in.Just use an SPL. meter and a tape measure. X2000 in bedroom ran auto eq after 2 years, Only one position. Will you test all four subs at once in Your room? Just for fun.
+Toby Hines Plug that microphone in and get what you paid for, Haha! Use all of the "positions", the more "information" you give Audyssey, the better. Do you have the "Dynamic EQ" option available on the 3805?
I won't be running the 4 subs together, I already sent the PB-16 Ultras back. Way too heavy to try it, when I already had the boxes taking up space for almost 2 weeks.
My wife had dealt with my shenanigans long enough by the time I got them boxed up. She would have been cool about it, but she shouldn't have to be THAT cool. We had "Mount SVS" in here during the transition, 4 giant boxes in the living room, lol.
I've run mismatched subs before with not much success, so it was a question I have already addressed. I did intend to get measurements of the PB-16 and PB 4000 together, but I ran out of gas. Surely a missed opportunity.
i kind if have a love hate relationship with dynamic volume. sometimes, it can really increase clarity for dialogues and stuff but if you want to watch movies, and you watch them kind of loud anyways, dynamic volume basicly rapes my ears. you usually set volume based on the highest point for example explosions. but if dynamic volume is on, EVERYTHING becomes loud as hell. people literally screaming at me because the lowest point with dialogues are TOO loud now. its a really weird setting.
Exactly. It's just a little wonky. The consistency isn't there.
Love my SB-4000.
How far do you toe in your speakers?
Im making my third floor to a hometheather room. Should i use hardwood floor or carpet floor? Its a big room.
Sorry I missed this! Carpet. Probably done with it now, sorry for the late reply!! If you put down hardwood already, a throw rug is a good idea.
I just added rear surrounds. Do I have to re run audessey for the whole set up or can it just be ran to eq the new speakers only?
Re-run. Whole thing, sad to say. I run room correction more than the average bear, so I get the desire to skip some of it if you can. Kind of a hassle, but it's worth it.
on my 2308, the auto room correction is no good...btw WAYYY too complicated these amps are, you gotta be an audio engineer to figure all this out, ive had my system for years and am still learning things lol
I totally get you, I'm still learning new features myself, so don't feel bad. XT32 is really good, better than regular XT.
An X3500 or better would be my choice these days. The X4500 is a really good overall AVR, and the X6500 and X8500 are awesome too, particularly for running a LOT of speakers. X4500 would be my best value/do it all pick, but you would notice a big difference even with the X3500.
Putting words on the screen while you're talking is very distracting. The result is that I don't hear what you're saying and I can't read the sentence because you're talking! Lol... Why don't you write out your main points on paper, then read it, then fill in any after thoughts prior to starting your video. That way you will be more organized and will have covered all your points verbally! ... I'm sorry but I find it hard to follow you when you keep filling in the gaps with words constantly flashing up on the screen.
You've mentioned that. When I watch a video with words on the screen, sometimes I'll pause it or go back a little if I get lost.
Some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time
Can't chew gum and walk at the same time is what you are saying. All joke aside, I paused the video to read the comments and continued. Don't encourage this channel to talk more than it already does. All helpful info nonetheless.
just wondering why you don't like dynamic volume? just curious if I should turn mine off?thanks for any info subwoofer101... awesome videos btw!!!
It just has an artificial sound to me. Dynamic EQ is a great setting, it seems to add richness without any penalty. In contrast, Dynamic Volume seems to make it louder at lower volumes, which I believe was the intended effect, but it comes at an expense that I can't really articulate.
Dynamic volume = compression, removes dynamic range (or difference between quiet and loud parts), useful for late night movie watching where you would be jumping for the remote and turn down a loud action sequence. Dynamic EQ = a sort of "loud" mode (or bass and treble boost) the lower the volume the more boost it applies. We hear lows and highs worse at lower levels. Useful for background music played at very low volumes. MultiEQ = room and speaker correction, is the one you want ON all the time :)
Again dynamic EQ is a sort of "equal loudness" setting. For the actual theory behind this see "Fletcher-Munson curves"
Please do a review on PB 4000 are they worth the upgrade. I have my two pb12-nsd and I have till Thanksgiving to upgrade. Im thinking about going for the dual pb4000
I'll do a review in a few weeks most likely. I'm more interested in getting the review right than getting it out quickly. That said, I think you would enjoy dual PB-4000's. Powerful realism.
Subwoofer 101 thanks, I don't know if I can afford two pb 4000s might just get one to replace my two pb12-nsd. I'm slowly working on putting together my theatre room for the return of Daenerys Targaryen.
+Rj Don't go from 2 to 1. You'd be much better off with dual PB-12 Plus. Going from 2 subwoofers to a single has been a repeated disappointment for me and other viewers, it doesn't matter how awesome the subwoofer is.
I preferred dual PB-2000's over a single PB-16 Ultra. All day long. The PB-16 Ultra is easily the superior subwoofer, but duals are THAT important.
If you haven't seen my gain hack video, turning up the subwoofer gain to 2-3 o'clock and turning the AVR subwoofer level down to compensate can really open up your subs.
Subwoofer 101 thanks for the advice. I will look into it
I know this is quite an old video, but I was wondering what setting do you use with the Dynamic EQ on: 0db, 5db, 10db etc. ?
Never really messed with it, honestly. I keep it at 0.
Subwoofer 101 I will try it at 0 to see how it sounds. :))
At 0db the sound boost is bigger, and at 15 the difference is smaller.. I was playing with this setting for the past week and still have not found the ideal position. Currently, sound is better with DEQ turned off...
razvanmel I like 5db for some reason, and I don’t see many, if any that use 5 dB, but I really like the way it balances out the sound of my system
Subwoofer 101 who owned the two ultra 16 SVS subwoofers I also have dual subwoofers as Ultra sixteens what happens if we run rears the pb4000 is it a bad idea or is it a good idea please get back to me or maybe you're about to do that let me know if it's a good idea also I'm not running them Wireless I'm going to plug then directly from the receiver
i had a denon avr 1910, i had the exact same problem. Constantly going into protection mode. so yeah never again will I buy a denon. I do miss the audessy though
Any complex product, like cars and electronics, will fail at some point, it's just a matter of numbers. I like Denon and Marantz a lot, especially Denon's X Series.
As you point out the Audyssey is a great function, especially XT32. Failures aren't that common, but they do occur, across ALL brands. I wouldn't personally swear off Denon. My X2000 has been 100% trouble free.
My X6200 was a refurbished unit, so the initial problem might have been missed. You kind of have to expect that a refurbished unit might still have issues.
I bought my Denon 1610 in 2011, and it still works today. I find that "luck of the draw" plays a large part in electronics, regardless of brand. Sometimes you end up with one of the small % that doesn't last reasonably long.
Love the dog 🐕
Thanks, me too!
Bear "purrs" at the end of this video: czcams.com/video/mm8tia_WSCI/video.html
11:55 Who is “CHU”? You said you couldn’t do it without “Chu”.
Can i put surround rears up 7 feet high on a wall.
you can but make sure you have the speaker aimed towards the listening position. But 7 feet high? I would use them as rear height atmos speakers
Dynamic eq at 10db is best for me at night.
The stuffed dog is cool.
Basically, when you kill your dog with the subwoofer, you're good to go. :D
No Dynamic EQ without room correction on Onkyo either
Audysey is a waste of time. I can measure spkr distance and se5 my own crossovers, and don’t like dyna eq. Beyond this audysey don’t do anything. Not sure if it addresses smoothing of frequency response levels.
I've still got my denon x4000 going strong from 2012
That's a big woofer.
(Puppy)
your dog is dreaming about hows pb 4000 gonna sound haha
That's what I thought, but I couldn't be sure, lol
haha
Hi ! I'm using a sound meter to set levels of each speaker on my manual setup for a Marantz avr sr6013 but not sure where I should set master volume to start test ? should I bring the master volume to 75 db and then adjust each speaker? Thanks!
When I ran YPAO on my old Yamaha RX-A610, the parametric EQ could not be used. Room correction adjusts all three aspects of each frequency band according to the standard the manufacturer set.
I had adjusted the PEQ while listening info to The Police in stereo, it sounded GREAT, until I played some other music lol!
YPAO on that AVR is crap compared to Audysseeyyyyy (ugh) XT32 with Sub EQ on my x7200. When playing music, if I use “bypass L/R”, my Paradigms sound horrible. I have a very bad room for audio, 7 foot ceiling, stairs off to the side, 50’ish x 15, laundry room without a door, and other odd things. I’m impressed with what Audyseey has done.
+Dave B. Great feedback! I imagine more current versions of YPAO probably do a better job, but yes Audyssey is very nice! Certainly, the higher versions of Audyssey are noticeably better.
Subwoofer 101 I went from the A610 to a Denom AVR-X4520ci new old stock. After s few months and two trips to ABT in Chicago to avoid shipping fees, it turned out to be a lemon. After a good week of negotiations with Denon, they replaced a Flagship with a Flagship. The 4520 had XT32 with no SubEQ. That did a really good job. But not as good as the x7200 does having SubEQ.
The addition of SubEQ makes a huge difference for those of use with extremely minimal on-sub adjustments like two or three phase settings, volume and frequency pass (which the AVR takes control of anyway when using the LFE RCA jack). With the subs you’ve been using, they have a ridiculous amount of on-board adjustments. That is when using REW and the mic are extremely beneficial!
May I suggest doing a video using the mic and REW for the PB4000s?
A friend of mine recently added another PB2000, he’s considering getting REW and buying the mic. With those minimal adjustments, I don’t think he will benefit at all, as he uses Audyssey on his Denon x4200.
Why didn't you remove the sleeping dog, before you've made this video. It was really a distraction.
More of a cat person I take it?
I try to use audyssey but I can not, the equalization made by it bothers my ears
+Juliano Hamed Sounds like Dynamic Volume. Dynamic EQ with the "Flat" setting might be more agreeable. I'd make sure Dynamic Volume is off.
Is ur dog dead???
HI use yamaha 781 i did not use room correction for 1st week they when plug in did sound mush better and then before bass just right work fine for me using room correction
What the hell is he talking about if I'm spending $1,000 on a receiver that damn thing better work just fine for years! Without paying for a warranty you already get a manufacturer warranty for free
I just got my AVR back from the shop for the second time since January. My other AVR has been fine, just dumb luck. I've also had two TV's replaced on aftermarket warranty.
TV's and AVR's, I'll always get the longest warranty available. Big ticket items that if they fail it's an expensive hit. All three occurred after factory warranty expired.
I agree that if you pay that much, you "should" have no problems. Failures happen to even the best equipment, and the more complicated, the more likely to get a failure.
I'm not saying that you "must" get an aftermarket warranty. I'm just saying it's saved me close to $4,000 in the last few years. So far it's been a pretty safe bet.
I turn audyessy off for music
Hey, it's kinda hard to pay attention to what you're saying when you keep flashing paragraphs up on the screen... Perhaps better planning prior to filming would eliminate the need to add afterthoughts which serve only to distract the viewer and weaken your message.
I know, you've mentioned it several times over the years! 😂 I do it to pack more information into the same time frame.
I film with the intent to fill in relevant information, so I don't have to stop and explain everything so much during filming that the overall message gets lost. I get FAR more complaints about the videos being too long, so I can't win either way.
It is actually planned. My watch time has increased since I started doing it. I'm sure we'll talk about again next year! 😆 I always know it's you when I get this complaint!
I'm really not trying to be mean, I appreciate you comments on the channel.
Not a fan of subtitles I would imagine?
I joke with nothin' but love!
@@Subwoofer101 Sorry, I was having a moment I guess, lol... I love your channel and really wish you the best.
Don't think twice about it! I absolutely have the same thing from time to time, it's a pretty human thing. We all have little things that bother us, it's completely normal. I'm glad to have you around, and I appreciate your support!
...I think your dog might be dead. 😂🤣😂