Stock was badass, FBO even better, FBO + bigger turbo changed my life, and tomorrow I’ll be dropping her off to get my motor built. For those Mazdaspeed3/MPS owners: keep to it because it only gets funner.
Running mine full stock. just replaced vvt as a whole kit with new timing chain,gears and guides just to play it safe. vvt was maxed out when opened up.Timing chain ticking made my ear say time to do some preventative work... purrs like brand new now. Listen to your motor!
Excellent video, really stepping up your content! Interesting video concept and well executed. Also minor thing from an armchair casual video editor, maybe add a de-crecendo or like a volume gradient to the music when you are jumping to a different scene for a smoother transition.
the best combinaision is stock in celestial blue with the gen 2 wheels, mods: grill changes to get rid of the smile and custom exhaust, interior wise i would try to make it feels less cheap. wraping some part in sued could be an option
Just got a bone stock one with 30k miles on it (All Black 2012 MS3 touring edition with Bose audio) and i already put nearly 14k on it just this summer. Im not ever driving it in winter here in CNY either. You know better than most what salt does to a beauty, being just across lake Ontario over there! Im in Oswego literally on the lake fishing as im typing this lol
Woah what are the odds. The only place I''ve been to in NY is Osweego (by way of syracuse). It was the first "long" trip I took in my 12 speed about 4 years ago. 60k miles later, thing still runs like a dream.
I have a 2013 mazdaspeed3 with 215k km, I've had it for 2 months. 1st owner had it tuned but it's all bone stock now. I was wondering what upgrades you would suggest to start with? I'd also be curious to hear your opinion on if tuning it again will be risky because it was tuned prior. Let me know your thoughts. Love the vids
@@jjms3 If i finance one i’ll be able to afford one, after owning my base model 3 for 2 months i realized i want something faster that’ll be worth putting money into and another thing is i’ve been spending too much on repairs and i still have more things to repair on it
So i got 2 speeds, gen1 tuned by previous owner and stock gen2. Gen1 - 335hp Gen2 - 260hp Both on the same dyno. Gen1 - runs on pilot sports 4 - lets say i need to replace them next season Gen2 - runs on dunlop maxx - brand new this season I done some tests with draggy, done some streetracing and a lot, a lot of track days. Gen1 is faster 100-200kmh - 4 to 5 seconds but those are not the condition i drive em. 0-60mph Gen2 is faster 0.5sec avarage but sometimes even more then 1 second as gen1 fights for traction a lot :) Now i got the limiter taken off in gen1 for 1st and 2ng gear which is for me personally a fail. When it comes to track days, with that limiter off i need to operate the gas pedal with prescision which i dont like. As if i push it too hard, the car start burning the tires and big understeer. In Gen2 i can WOT at every corner and still have control over the car. Its hard to explain but i dont like driving the tuned speed3. I got some struts, coils, its full exhaust, brakes, mounts, bigger IC, bpv, fuel pump, bigger turbo and a safe program to run on. As a daily its too hard, too loud and in traffic cannot do WOT's as car is so loud and burns rubber :) As a drag car its too slow for nowadays, it was never a good sprinter due to fwd but at higher speeds its still slow compared to tuned 2.0tsi from VAG, which are all runing 400hp with fast DSG. No point in trying to match em. Also its an FWD car there is no point for more power, its getting wasted (unless u go above 60mph) On a track day... i mean not only its has this understeer tendency but also always something fails after hardcore driving. Something leaks, some plastic things fall off, some sensor dies etc. Always something with this car. So its sits mostly in the garage and i plan to return it to stock one day. That leaves me to the conclusion that : Mazdaspeed3 stock is better then tuned one. What i have done to GEN2 in terms of modifying it is : - bigger IC - engine mounts - strut bars - sport brakes - catback exhaust So basically a stock car, it runs on stock program. Its a good daily, it sounds good but is not loud. Whole city dosnt have to know im coming :) Its idiot proof very fun car to drive, you can always save yourself if your know what ur doing. I got stock turbo and i tell you this, its better. Now when i see bigger turbo plus fmic i can only feel how shity this car has to be. The lag on it must be crazy, im already complaining on bigger turbo lag and i got just upgraded tmic in the gen1. Cannot even imagine putting fmic on this one and going to my track which is very technical, not so many long runs, mostly fast corners 2nd/3rd gear. I did a full trackday with GEN2 in big heat, just changed the fluids and tires and its good to go cannot say that about the tuned one, always something. Also keep in mind that tuning is a waste of money, you will only decrease the value of the car. I cannot imagine buying your car with the front bumper cut in half for some cheap fake carbon chinesee BS that dosnt work for any purpose but "good looks" i mean if you dont like the car that your turning it into modern Civic typerR with all those spoilers on top of spoilers, why not get the Typer in the first place? :D Keep it stock
btw. this sunday track day i was sluaghtered by toyota yaris GR and Honda TypeR the previous one with some minor addons The moment you switch from MS3 to one of those, you can feel that MS3 is a compromise. Its a daily car with some front wheel power and eazy to drive (when you install strut bar engine mount etc in MS3 it starts to oversteer at higher speeds during cornering - very easy to control by the gas pedal alone) But when you switch you can sense that Toyota and Honda are sports car, more refined no metter how much tuning you do it will never by a sports car. Honda is undrivable for me as a daily its too hard Toyota is undrivable for me as a daily its too small If id be into tuning i would pick a better car with potential : RWD or AWD, in FWD is just a waste of cash. You will grown into this at the moment you switch cars to something with RWD or AWD.
When timing my MS3 gen1 and gen2 on the track i got better time in the GEN2 as i have driven it so long its like part of me on the track. Now with the Gen1 which is tuned, i drive it and when i feel like i feel it now to do the timeattack, it fookin does fail on me. Last time the power steering fluid just died on me. So i dont have a good time for gen1 on the track, but from driving it i dont like it :) Too laggy too much power going to waste :) Cheers got some free time killing it on ur videos thumbs up
Question for people owning speed3’s for extended periods of time, would buying one with 295k KM be worth it at all? What kind of wear and tear do these cars get over time? It’s a bone stock 2011
Wont be much help because I've only had mine for 2 months. I purchased with 209k which I thought was really risky. So far I've had no issues besides buying and installing the stock OEM sway bar, because first owner had an aftermarket one that didnt fit properly and wore out bushings (overall $300 fix). I absolutely love it and have no regrets buying it. But I'll say be super careful to do the research on the condition & prior owners. Mine was only 1 owner who kept it garage kept and basically babied it. (That said he did have it tuned and reverted back to stock before selling. But even with the prior mods I have had no issues as a result). 300k is really high, I would only suggest if it was kept immaculate and you intend on keeping every piece of maintenance up to date. Even still you may run into larger repairs/replacements like clutch or turbo replacement. I'd say hold off until you can find one closer to 200k or below. But they're super rare so I wish you luck!
Do u have forged internals ? Stock speed 3/6 can not handle all the torque. This is the main problem with 2.3 Disi. Only roll race and no mods. I did 8 or 10 launches in my and connecting rod went flying. This is a good engine but needs a lot of love. Forge internals, Hpfp, oil changes after 4k miles or your timing chain will start knocking and vvt actuator can go bad.
@@jjms3 its all bolt on obv but not everything that could be bolt on is bolt on lol prolly what he is saying. Mines all bolt on to but I'm in need of a couple goodies.
@@jjms3 i own an 08 speed 3 and know what stock and fbo is .. just saying you're not fully bolted. Stock manifolds even if it's "ported" and I'm positive it's not even single runner ported. Your car looks good and you're heading in the right direction but it's not full bolt on
Stock was badass, FBO even better, FBO + bigger turbo changed my life, and tomorrow I’ll be dropping her off to get my motor built. For those Mazdaspeed3/MPS owners: keep to it because it only gets funner.
Agreed!
I would if it were legal. 🥲
I wish I had money for my money pit lol
Running mine full stock. just replaced vvt as a whole kit with new timing chain,gears and guides just to play it safe. vvt was maxed out when opened up.Timing chain ticking made my ear say time to do some preventative work... purrs like brand new now. Listen to your motor!
Excellent video, really stepping up your content! Interesting video concept and well executed.
Also minor thing from an armchair casual video editor, maybe add a de-crecendo or like a volume gradient to the music when you are jumping to a different scene for a smoother transition.
Thanks man! And will do man, still getting better at editing lol
I prefer the stock sleeper look. Just subtle details. But to each their own. Not ragging on yours or anything.
Stock was great, but I don't think I can go back to not hearing the turbo, so I would at least do an intake.
Agreed
the best combinaision is stock in celestial blue with the gen 2 wheels, mods: grill changes to get rid of the smile and custom exhaust, interior wise i would try to make it feels less cheap. wraping some part in sued could be an option
Got a BK (2006) MPS 2 days ago. Planning to mod this up slowly
Just got a stock 08 speed3 can’t wait to modify it with bolt ons!!
dont modify it becuase you need to spend the 1200$ necessary upgrades to do ANYTHING on it ANYTHING, itd the hight fuel pressure system
stock is better but with the intercooler not on top the engine.
Loving your vids bro. Keeping me entertained for when I pick my MPS up in a couple of weeks :)
Thanks man and that’s awesome!
Just got a bone stock one with 30k miles on it (All Black 2012 MS3 touring edition with Bose audio) and i already put nearly 14k on it just this summer. Im not ever driving it in winter here in CNY either. You know better than most what salt does to a beauty, being just across lake Ontario over there! Im in Oswego literally on the lake fishing as im typing this lol
Woah what are the odds.
The only place I''ve been to in NY is Osweego (by way of syracuse). It was the first "long" trip I took in my 12 speed about 4 years ago. 60k miles later, thing still runs like a dream.
Let’s see some runs bro that would be cool
One day
Just bought my fourth one this one is 100% stock and every single way
I have a 2013 mazdaspeed3 with 215k km, I've had it for 2 months. 1st owner had it tuned but it's all bone stock now. I was wondering what upgrades you would suggest to start with? I'd also be curious to hear your opinion on if tuning it again will be risky because it was tuned prior. Let me know your thoughts. Love the vids
Thank you and Watch my mod guide video
Down pipe night and day
Stock one looks the best. Best one for a daily
hoping to get a speed 3 for my first car, have loved this car since i first saw it lmao
man that ms3 looks great, but you need to rip off the gaudy headlight platstic adhesive trim.
were did u get the hood dampers for your mazda speed3 i would like to get some??
Don't know the channel totally random here but yes mod your speed. Do it right, listen to the sounds. Be happy. Shit breaks, enjoy your car.
Where did you get the plate mount for the front end? I can't find one that will work with the JV style grill.
I'm so confused are you pointing at the exhaust manifold and calling it an intake?
Life’s too short to stay stock
Do these come with Sunroofs
This a good video topic
Make a video on what to do for forged internals
im not too familiar with that, so i couldn't unfortunately
So basically I'm for sure going FBO now
Hey man how much did your shop quote for the roof wrap ? Mine is around 300 :/
I get 27.3 mpg avg because i dont spool the turbo unless i need to lol
tempting me to upgrade to a speed 3
It’s worth it if you have the money imo bro!
@@jjms3 If i finance one i’ll be able to afford one, after owning my base model 3 for 2 months i realized i want something faster that’ll be worth putting money into and another thing is i’ve been spending too much on repairs and i still have more things to repair on it
@@ThatBoyDezi so just sell it, cut your losses and buy something that’s worth putting money into!!
@@jjms3 damn looks like you’ll be seeing me in a speed 3 in the near future
Love the look of your car looks mean
So stock vs basic bolt on
did you do this vid by the wimpys and the carwash??
So i got 2 speeds, gen1 tuned by previous owner and stock gen2.
Gen1 - 335hp
Gen2 - 260hp
Both on the same dyno.
Gen1 - runs on pilot sports 4 - lets say i need to replace them next season
Gen2 - runs on dunlop maxx - brand new this season
I done some tests with draggy, done some streetracing and a lot, a lot of track days.
Gen1 is faster 100-200kmh - 4 to 5 seconds but those are not the condition i drive em.
0-60mph Gen2 is faster 0.5sec avarage but sometimes even more then 1 second as gen1 fights for traction a lot :)
Now i got the limiter taken off in gen1 for 1st and 2ng gear which is for me personally a fail.
When it comes to track days, with that limiter off i need to operate the gas pedal with prescision which i dont like.
As if i push it too hard, the car start burning the tires and big understeer.
In Gen2 i can WOT at every corner and still have control over the car. Its hard to explain but i dont like driving the tuned speed3.
I got some struts, coils, its full exhaust, brakes, mounts, bigger IC, bpv, fuel pump, bigger turbo and a safe program to run on.
As a daily its too hard, too loud and in traffic cannot do WOT's as car is so loud and burns rubber :)
As a drag car its too slow for nowadays, it was never a good sprinter due to fwd but at higher speeds its still slow compared to tuned 2.0tsi from VAG, which are all runing 400hp with fast DSG. No point in trying to match em. Also its an FWD car there is no point for more power, its getting wasted (unless u go above 60mph)
On a track day... i mean not only its has this understeer tendency but also always something fails after hardcore driving.
Something leaks, some plastic things fall off, some sensor dies etc. Always something with this car.
So its sits mostly in the garage and i plan to return it to stock one day.
That leaves me to the conclusion that : Mazdaspeed3 stock is better then tuned one.
What i have done to GEN2 in terms of modifying it is :
- bigger IC
- engine mounts
- strut bars
- sport brakes
- catback exhaust
So basically a stock car, it runs on stock program.
Its a good daily, it sounds good but is not loud. Whole city dosnt have to know im coming :)
Its idiot proof very fun car to drive, you can always save yourself if your know what ur doing. I got stock turbo and i tell you this, its better. Now when i see bigger turbo plus fmic i can only feel how shity this car has to be. The lag on it must be crazy, im already complaining on bigger turbo lag and i got just upgraded tmic in the gen1. Cannot even imagine putting fmic on this one and going to my track which is very technical, not so many long runs, mostly fast corners 2nd/3rd gear.
I did a full trackday with GEN2 in big heat, just changed the fluids and tires and its good to go cannot say that about the tuned one, always something.
Also keep in mind that tuning is a waste of money, you will only decrease the value of the car.
I cannot imagine buying your car with the front bumper cut in half for some cheap fake carbon chinesee BS that dosnt work for any purpose but "good looks" i mean if you dont like the car that your turning it into modern Civic typerR with all those spoilers on top of spoilers, why not get the Typer in the first place? :D
Keep it stock
btw. this sunday track day i was sluaghtered by toyota yaris GR and Honda TypeR the previous one with some minor addons
The moment you switch from MS3 to one of those, you can feel that MS3 is a compromise. Its a daily car with some front wheel power and eazy to drive (when you install strut bar engine mount etc in MS3 it starts to oversteer at higher speeds during cornering - very easy to control by the gas pedal alone)
But when you switch you can sense that Toyota and Honda are sports car, more refined no metter how much tuning you do it will never by a sports car.
Honda is undrivable for me as a daily its too hard
Toyota is undrivable for me as a daily its too small
If id be into tuning i would pick a better car with potential : RWD or AWD, in FWD is just a waste of cash.
You will grown into this at the moment you switch cars to something with RWD or AWD.
When timing my MS3 gen1 and gen2 on the track i got better time in the GEN2 as i have driven it so long its like part of me on the track.
Now with the Gen1 which is tuned, i drive it and when i feel like i feel it now to do the timeattack, it fookin does fail on me.
Last time the power steering fluid just died on me. So i dont have a good time for gen1 on the track, but from driving it i dont like it :)
Too laggy too much power going to waste :)
Cheers got some free time killing it on ur videos thumbs up
Did anyone else come here to watch them run it and leave really dissapointed?
I prefer stock
MS3s are pretty fun, especially when you get the COBB Accessport and do some little upgrades
Whats the brand of your hood damper?
I could never go back to stock turbo😅
Wait you got 3.5” intake with stock battery box? How is the install and fitment?
Yes, very tight fit will have to relocate ecu
Get some evo10 replica wheels bro itll look oem+
Nahh i like my wheels
Bruhh wut.. evo x stock wheels are boring af
@@kyab153 better than the oem speed 3 wheels
Question for people owning speed3’s for extended periods of time, would buying one with 295k KM be worth it at all? What kind of wear and tear do these cars get over time? It’s a bone stock 2011
Wont be much help because I've only had mine for 2 months. I purchased with 209k which I thought was really risky. So far I've had no issues besides buying and installing the stock OEM sway bar, because first owner had an aftermarket one that didnt fit properly and wore out bushings (overall $300 fix). I absolutely love it and have no regrets buying it. But I'll say be super careful to do the research on the condition & prior owners. Mine was only 1 owner who kept it garage kept and basically babied it. (That said he did have it tuned and reverted back to stock before selling. But even with the prior mods I have had no issues as a result). 300k is really high, I would only suggest if it was kept immaculate and you intend on keeping every piece of maintenance up to date. Even still you may run into larger repairs/replacements like clutch or turbo replacement. I'd say hold off until you can find one closer to 200k or below. But they're super rare so I wish you luck!
I boght mine at 100k miles, now at 160. Not a single problem that I did not cause myself. I am so impressed with mazda with these vehicles.
No runs?
Its stock😂
I love you videos the gray
What are your plans when you ms3 hit over 200k miles
Keep on driving her!
Where did you get the hood dampeners?
I believe they are redline i got em used
@@jjms3 yeah, redline is no more. I tried to order from them numerous times and it always gets cancelled. Sucks man.
Do u have egr delete on ur modded speed?
Yes!
I bought his 50/50 blow off valve lol
Small world man lol. I’m hosting a meet this Saturday if your local man, you should come out!
Mps 3 vs 6
If you want to tune and wind up boost on a force inducted vehicle and your worried about fuel economy.
Don't bother even looking into it.
Well said😂
Do u have forged internals ? Stock speed 3/6 can not handle all the torque. This is the main problem with 2.3 Disi. Only roll race and no mods. I did 8 or 10 launches in my and connecting rod went flying. This is a good engine but needs a lot of love. Forge internals, Hpfp, oil changes after 4k miles or your timing chain will start knocking and vvt actuator can go bad.
Motor is all stock, i never launch the car.
@@jjms3 ok that's good, but kinda lame, stock 260 hp 4 cyl turbo and no launches : /
Get yourself a bnr s4
When i find a good deal yes
YOU ARE NOT FBO BROO stop saying that damn
How tho lol
@@jjms3 its all bolt on obv but not everything that could be bolt on is bolt on lol prolly what he is saying. Mines all bolt on to but I'm in need of a couple goodies.
@@FlyLikeRedBull that’s fair. Its good for CZcams titles tho
cabin air filter Bhahahaha
Both pretty stock to me lol and fbo includes manifolds
The red one with the eyelids is actually slower than stock
@@jjms3 i own an 08 speed 3 and know what stock and fbo is .. just saying you're not fully bolted. Stock manifolds even if it's "ported" and I'm positive it's not even single runner ported. Your car looks good and you're heading in the right direction but it's not full bolt on
@@Wasntplanned thats a fair point man, but for youtube title sake, its what draws traction
@@jjms3 how is a bolt on speed slower than a stock speed?
@@jb6574 it was a Joke