Sent a tweet to this young lady. I said in great faith "I take it you won the million dollars?" I got blocked by her. No further questions your honour.
Watching Leigh Catherine for the whole video is absolutely hilarious. The steely held eye contact, the body language, the deliberate confusing of salient points made by Zenon early on to trying to muddy the argument and throw the interviewers off the scent, she is literally unbelievable.
I cannot work out which side Leigh Catherine is on, firstly she's adamant that psychics are real and genuine but as soon as Paul Zenon shows how easy it is to fake a reading she's suddenly more on the skeptical side. Well done Paul!!!!!!!
Funny how the psychics will never demonstrate on the spot isn't it? "I'm not a trick pony" and yet they do it for a living. I'm a PC repairman, and if someone asks me to look at their PC I don't have any problem doing it without preparation!
Paul Zenon is brilliant such a great magician,entertainer. She is yet another psychic who could prove nothing except she could only speak to the dead when booked,ha ha fantastic,says it all really.Go Paul keep fighting the good fight against the fraudulent mediums.
@mrpayne123 And just to clarify; you're correct in doubting that Paul Zenon ever said 'all psychics are con artists' - that was a caption written by the TV production team.
Oh, and since that inteview LC turned down the opportunity to do the JREF challenge (what a surprise), and has also apparently stopped doing personal readings. Maybe another opportunity to appear on TV cropped up...
They put a caption under Paul saying "Says all psychics are con artists." I doubt he said that. That's a common straw man people force on skeptics, probably from people who don't understand the depths of self delusion. But they are so good at special pleading it makes them sound like con artists, she said she doesn't do readings in public because she doesn't know what will come out. He should have said I don't care what personal things the spirit said to corner her a bit more.
Why did she agree to go on, she is clearly a fraud. She is a joke, I bet you she preys on the vulnerable and makes money from there grief. Horrendous . All so called psychics should be ashamed of themselves, people will believe more when they are clinging on to hope of contacting a loved one. I feel sorry for people who part with there hard earned money to pay these con artists
So she wasn't rude or aggressive?! She even describes herself as a 'fierce fashionista'! Why do you believers always use the 'what are you scared of' line? He's obviously not scared of anything, including legal action - he's speaking out against bullshit - it's believers who are scared, of the idea that there is nothing after death.What science does is accept profoundity while trying to find out what's there which doesn't meet the eye, unlike mysticism which blindly accepts any old bollocks.
@Houdini2323 Is that so? Well in that case this is somewhat more incriminating. It'll be worth watching to see if the earpiece is still there at her next show. Also taking a scanner into the hall would be a good idea to try and hack the signal.
@benthejrporter Sally Morgan lied about wearing an earpiece on stage - she denied it until Zenon uncovered video footage of her wearing one, then she backtracked, saying that she sometimes wore one 'but only for stage directions'. Only musical performers ever use an earpiece on a theatre stage, there is no reason to wear one otherwise.
@britishangel03 Isn't it amazing that having a belief in horseshit seems to go hand in hand with absolutely no understanding of grammar? So out of the 'millions of evidence' (?!), how come no one has seen ANY whatsoever, bearing in mind that it would change the course of history?
30th January 2012 - 'Psychic' Sally is taking legal action against the Daily Mail over Paul Zenon's article written immediately prior to this interview in September 2011.
What beautiful blonde woman was saying was, "... evident of survival after physically passing away. If you were 70 years of age, and I said, Oh, I've got your grandfather in spirit, hello, at 70 years of age, then grand dad has obviously gone to the other side of spirit..." translates to "I dont know wxtxf I'm saying, and wisdom grows with days, therfore a 70 y/o will not believe me, so given that, i can not communicate w/ their passed away relatives, aka, I am pretty, yet super fake."
It is odd. On one hand, one can feel a sense of sadness for those who long for those whom they have loved and who are now deceased. And on the other hand, it is best to let go of the attachment to those who have died and to celebrate the memories of those love ones. Leigh Catherine may not know that she is in fact a moderate charlatan. This moderateness presses those who are mourning to possess a greater credulity to Leigh's charlatanism.
It can, but sometimes the truth needs stating with directness too, and Zenon has enough TV experience to know that unless you state your case on a live programme then you will be ridden over. Leigh Catherine described herself as a 'fierce fashionista' psychic prior to this interview and is hardly the model of politeness herself.
@MrJohnnyrace The outrage is there, but they weren't featured in the news that particular week. They also have a more general target audience rather than the bereaved people that 'mediums' prey upon.
Sorry to piss on your chips Einstein but that's exactly what he was asked to demonstrate! Did you maybe think that he was actually just a bad psychic there to keep the other one company?!
@benthejrporter - She has done several dozen shows since September and seems to wear and not wear the earpiece in about equal measure. As I said, there is no reason for her to wear one other than to be fed information, unless she is so bored that she likes to listen to Spotify while she impersonates dead toddlers.
Er, you're not aware of the libel case that Sally Morgan took against the Mail over Paul Zenon's article after this programme was broadcast then? It's been going on for a year and due to go to the High Court in June 2013. And before you say that she'll have to prove that she's psychic; she won't, the Claimant doesn't have to demonstrate anything - that's one of the many problems with the UK libel laws.
And no; that isn't conclusive proof that she was fed information on a specific date, but you'd be foolish to assume otherwise; it would be like saying that because someone is wearing a plaster cast on their leg, it doesn't prove that they have an injured leg. No it doesn't, but....And where is any kind of evidence that Sally Morgan has any 'psychic' powers anyway? There is none whatsoever. Surely the onus should be on her to prove her ridiculous and damaging claims?
@thedolphinway Really? At what, exactly?! She certainly hasn't been excellent at following up on her assurance that she would take the $1 million challenge.
I'm more of a believer but always keep a healthy amount of skepticism. An open mind. But he's so rude/controlling and passive aggressive to Leigh Catherine. What's he so scared about and why does he want to take mediumship down? His book? hmm. What ever is real, we're here and there's a lot more to this existence that meets the eye. It's profound that we're here to start with so why is the idea of an afterlife so to speak be any more amazing!
@newcoyote I agree, but let me clarify my main point. Even if a skeptic thinks that psychic powers don't exist, they should never say that all psychics are con artists. They should realize that humans are able to delude themselves into thinking they actually have some psychic powers. I don't think some of the general public realizes how deep self delusion goes, so they often think psychics are either a con artists or real.Thus they think that skeptics think that all psychics are con artists.
Please note that if you do believe in an afterlife, and that dead friends and relatives are watching over you, then remember that they are also watching you going to the toilet, undressing and masturbating. Possibly all at the same time.
Er...YOU said that you were 'more of a believer'! And ah, yes, 'sensing' rather than reading and interpreting, and the fear thing again - what of? Something that doesn't exist? It's nothing to do with thinking that 'anyones' ideas are bullshit or bollocks, it's about discerning which are and which are not, using logic and evidence. Feel free to believe anything you like, but don't claim that you are open minded or that non-believers are closed minded - in my experience it's usually the opposite.
Leigh Catherine i totally believe in what you do cause im the same way as in giving a message i always tell them give me no info and i never meet or hear from a clint ahead of time so i have no name etc until the day of
Wow - Leigh's face at 9:02! :) Paul came well prepared for this interview, but he could have been a little more gracious, ie. not talking over other people. Politeness can be powerful in debate.
The thing is that the people outside passing information secretly to Psychic Sally only comes from a rumour. If it was the other way round and Skeptics were in the defensive position they'd say that this is "anecdotal". So there's a bit of a double standard here! If Sally had been actually caught red-handed like James Randi did to Peter Popoff then it would be a different matter. But she wasn't.
Yes he did! And..NO she didn't. They usually never do, and when the DO...they fail. Please check out James Randi's website... (root): randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html
What do you mean you've tried to? I don't think you actually have, have you? It's not called 'james test' and it's open to anyone at all. Maybe you tried to search on the Internet but your grammar and (lack of) punctuation let you down? This interview probably said nothing new about what you do because what you do (or rather say you do) is actually bullshit, and that's been around for a long time, with people saying as much.
Why is it that all you people who claim to have an other-worldly extra 'gift' don't even have the ability to spell? You don't even have the ability to predict the end of your own sentence.
Long Island Medium?! Are you serious? Do a bit of research. There's an incredible arrogance in assuming that just because you don't know how it's done then it has to be 'supernatural'. No it's not - it's just that you and a whole load of other suckers haven't worked it out. NONE of them have any sort of gift other than being able to part people from their money. Yet again, do we have to mention that there's a $million waiting for anyone with proof of even the slightest 'paranormal' ability?
i dont know who this paul zenon is..but how RUDE is he!! this lady allowed him to say his side but he was butting in and not allowing her to finish what she is/was saying...yeh he has an opinion but let others speak for christ sake!
Sorry; would love to talk more but your post doesn't make any sense whatsoever; the first sentence in particular demonstrates stupidity beyond belief. There have been NO 'scientific' studies proving any kind of 'psychic' abilities. Ever. Not one. Otherwise it would have changed the course of history for ever. Now go win the lottery.
Sent a tweet to this young lady. I said in great faith "I take it you won the million dollars?" I got blocked by her.
No further questions your honour.
I love when people who claim supernatural powers are humiliated
Watching Leigh Catherine for the whole video is absolutely hilarious. The steely held eye contact, the body language, the deliberate confusing of salient points made by Zenon early on to trying to muddy the argument and throw the interviewers off the scent, she is literally unbelievable.
Have you noticed Leigh Catherine never actually answers any question put to her?
+Steve Kemp
yes, she was totally incoherent. it looks like she had hard time string a sentence together. she spoke very slowly.
Her body language at 14:05. Leg going up and down....
Owned.
No one has yet won Randi's $1 million bet to prove these talent....says it all
I cannot work out which side Leigh Catherine is on, firstly she's adamant that psychics are real and genuine but as soon as Paul Zenon shows how easy it is to fake a reading she's suddenly more on the skeptical side. Well done Paul!!!!!!!
Funny how the psychics will never demonstrate on the spot isn't it? "I'm not a trick pony" and yet they do it for a living. I'm a PC repairman, and if someone asks me to look at their PC I don't have any problem doing it without preparation!
12:17 "...this has all been a scam to launch my career as a genuine psychic" LOLOL!!!
Sally is on the money - she certainly is on the money =) Paul Zenon, I salute you
She looked very uncomfortable throughout the whole interveiw.
No psychic gift needed to read Ms Catherine's mind.
@TheRationalizer
Silvia Browne also told James Randi personally that she'd take his test, she never did. I think this women will do the same.
Paul Zenon is brilliant such a great magician,entertainer. She is yet another psychic who could prove nothing except she could only speak to the dead when booked,ha ha fantastic,says it all really.Go Paul keep fighting the good fight against the fraudulent mediums.
@mrpayne123 And just to clarify; you're correct in doubting that Paul Zenon ever said 'all psychics are con artists' - that was a caption written by the TV production team.
he still did more than the 'actual psychic'
Oh, and since that inteview LC turned down the opportunity to do the JREF challenge (what a surprise), and has also apparently stopped doing personal readings. Maybe another opportunity to appear on TV cropped up...
Paul tied her in knots, anyone know if she actually took up the challenge??????
The sad thing is that this is even a discussion, as if it's a controversial opinion to believe that there's no such thing as psychics.
They put a caption under Paul saying "Says all psychics are con artists." I doubt he said that. That's a common straw man people force on skeptics, probably from people who don't understand the depths of self delusion.
But they are so good at special pleading it makes them sound like con artists, she said she doesn't do readings in public because she doesn't know what will come out. He should have said I don't care what personal things the spirit said to corner her a bit more.
That cold reading he did totally related to me :P
That comment shows that you have missed the concept completely. Maybe have another think.
Why did she agree to go on, she is clearly a fraud. She is a joke, I bet you she preys on the vulnerable and makes money from there grief. Horrendous . All so called psychics should be ashamed of themselves, people will believe more when they are clinging on to hope of contacting a loved one. I feel sorry for people who part with there hard earned money to pay these con artists
So she wasn't rude or aggressive?! She even describes herself as a 'fierce fashionista'! Why do you believers always use the 'what are you scared of' line? He's obviously not scared of anything, including legal action - he's speaking out against bullshit - it's believers who are scared, of the idea that there is nothing after death.What science does is accept profoundity while trying to find out what's there which doesn't meet the eye, unlike mysticism which blindly accepts any old bollocks.
@Houdini2323 Is that so? Well in that case this is somewhat more incriminating. It'll be worth watching to see if the earpiece is still there at her next show. Also taking a scanner into the hall would be a good idea to try and hack the signal.
@benthejrporter Sally Morgan lied about wearing an earpiece on stage - she denied it until Zenon uncovered video footage of her wearing one, then she backtracked, saying that she sometimes wore one 'but only for stage directions'. Only musical performers ever use an earpiece on a theatre stage, there is no reason to wear one otherwise.
Great answer.
@britishangel03 Isn't it amazing that having a belief in horseshit seems to go hand in hand with absolutely no understanding of grammar? So out of the 'millions of evidence' (?!), how come no one has seen ANY whatsoever, bearing in mind that it would change the course of history?
30th January 2012 - 'Psychic' Sally is taking legal action against the Daily Mail over Paul Zenon's article written immediately prior to this interview in September 2011.
omg, shes my mums friend.
What beautiful blonde woman was saying was, "... evident of survival after physically passing away. If you were 70 years of age, and I said, Oh, I've got your grandfather in spirit, hello, at 70 years of age, then grand dad has obviously gone to the other side of spirit..." translates to "I dont know wxtxf I'm saying, and wisdom grows with days, therfore a 70 y/o will not believe me, so given that, i can not communicate w/ their passed away relatives, aka, I am pretty, yet super fake."
Did she take the Randi challenge?
I doubt it.
It is odd. On one hand, one can feel a sense of sadness for those who long for those whom they have loved and who are now deceased. And on the other hand, it is best to let go of the attachment to those who have died and to celebrate the memories of those love ones. Leigh Catherine may not know that she is in fact a moderate charlatan. This moderateness presses those who are mourning to possess a greater credulity to Leigh's charlatanism.
Skeptics cash? How does that work?
It can, but sometimes the truth needs stating with directness too, and Zenon has enough TV experience to know that unless you state your case on a live programme then you will be ridden over. Leigh Catherine described herself as a 'fierce fashionista' psychic prior to this interview and is hardly the model of politeness herself.
PauI, Derren & Randi will f@#k them up.
Indeed - he did not say that.
@sb1127 yeah I noticed that too.
@MrJohnnyrace The outrage is there, but they weren't featured in the news that particular week. They also have a more general target audience rather than the bereaved people that 'mediums' prey upon.
Sorry to piss on your chips Einstein but that's exactly what he was asked to demonstrate! Did you maybe think that he was actually just a bad psychic there to keep the other one company?!
@benthejrporter - She has done several dozen shows since September and seems to wear and not wear the earpiece in about equal measure. As I said, there is no reason for her to wear one other than to be fed information, unless she is so bored that she likes to listen to Spotify while she impersonates dead toddlers.
This guy Paul Zenon is smart.
Leigh, how strange.
@thedolphinway sarcasm?
Er, you're not aware of the libel case that Sally Morgan took against the Mail over Paul Zenon's article after this programme was broadcast then? It's been going on for a year and due to go to the High Court in June 2013. And before you say that she'll have to prove that she's psychic; she won't, the Claimant doesn't have to demonstrate anything - that's one of the many problems with the UK libel laws.
heeheehee he's good he just did a cold reading lol that shut her up
And no; that isn't conclusive proof that she was fed information on a specific date, but you'd be foolish to assume otherwise; it would be like saying that because someone is wearing a plaster cast on their leg, it doesn't prove that they have an injured leg. No it doesn't, but....And where is any kind of evidence that Sally Morgan has any 'psychic' powers anyway? There is none whatsoever. Surely the onus should be on her to prove her ridiculous and damaging claims?
@thedolphinway Really? At what, exactly?! She certainly hasn't been excellent at following up on her assurance that she would take the $1 million challenge.
Ha ha ha this "Psychic" is for real .....lol, all because you hot you now have the answers....what bollocks, Paul you rock !!!
Clip that Paul refers to... czcams.com/video/NPrIKuY9L2I/video.html
She looks very uncomfortable and shifty #fake
I'm more of a believer but always keep a healthy amount of skepticism. An open mind. But he's so rude/controlling and passive aggressive to Leigh Catherine. What's he so scared about and why does he want to take mediumship down? His book? hmm. What ever is real, we're here and there's a lot more to this existence that meets the eye. It's profound that we're here to start with so why is the idea of an afterlife so to speak be any more amazing!
@newcoyote I agree, but let me clarify my main point. Even if a skeptic thinks that psychic powers don't exist, they should never say that all psychics are con artists. They should realize that humans are able to delude themselves into thinking they actually have some psychic powers. I don't think some of the general public realizes how deep self delusion goes, so they often think psychics are either a con artists or real.Thus they think that skeptics think that all psychics are con artists.
Please note that if you do believe in an afterlife, and that dead friends and relatives are watching over you, then remember that they are also watching you going to the toilet, undressing and masturbating. Possibly all at the same time.
She's so full of it that you can see her eyes getting browner by the second.
I gues somebody said it before but... BOOM Totally pwned!
Er...YOU said that you were 'more of a believer'! And ah, yes, 'sensing' rather than reading and interpreting, and the fear thing again - what of? Something that doesn't exist? It's nothing to do with thinking that 'anyones' ideas are bullshit or bollocks, it's about discerning which are and which are not, using logic and evidence. Feel free to believe anything you like, but don't claim that you are open minded or that non-believers are closed minded - in my experience it's usually the opposite.
Leigh Catherine i totally believe in what you do cause im the same way as in giving a message i always tell them give me no info and i never meet or hear from a clint ahead of time so i have no name etc until the day of
paul is a epic street magician recomend his book on street magic :)
Wow - Leigh's face at 9:02! :)
Paul came well prepared for this interview, but he could have been a little more gracious, ie. not talking over other people. Politeness can be powerful in debate.
That guy was pathetic! Text book cold readng.
The thing is that the people outside passing information secretly to Psychic Sally only comes from a rumour. If it was the other way round and Skeptics were in the defensive position they'd say that this is "anecdotal". So there's a bit of a double standard here! If Sally had been actually caught red-handed like James Randi did to Peter Popoff then it would be a different matter. But she wasn't.
Yes he did! And..NO she didn't. They usually never do, and when the DO...they fail. Please check out James Randi's website...
(root): randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html
What do you mean you've tried to? I don't think you actually have, have you? It's not called 'james test' and it's open to anyone at all. Maybe you tried to search on the Internet but your grammar and (lack of) punctuation let you down? This interview probably said nothing new about what you do because what you do (or rather say you do) is actually bullshit, and that's been around for a long time, with people saying as much.
F-R-A-U-D!
Why is it that all you people who claim to have an other-worldly extra 'gift' don't even have the ability to spell? You don't even have the ability to predict the end of your own sentence.
Who cares? more than 50% of viewers did and that's good enough. Psychic Sally isn't as god as he is. At least he admits that it's garbage.
@ThePantychrist Apologies accepted.
And no need to have been an arrogant yet daft twat in the first place.
Long Island Medium?! Are you serious? Do a bit of research. There's an incredible arrogance in assuming that just because you don't know how it's done then it has to be 'supernatural'. No it's not - it's just that you and a whole load of other suckers haven't worked it out. NONE of them have any sort of gift other than being able to part people from their money. Yet again, do we have to mention that there's a $million waiting for anyone with proof of even the slightest 'paranormal' ability?
i dont know who this paul zenon is..but how RUDE is he!! this lady allowed him to say his side but he was butting in and not allowing her to finish what she is/was saying...yeh he has an opinion but let others speak for christ sake!
Sorry; would love to talk more but your post doesn't make any sense whatsoever; the first sentence in particular demonstrates stupidity beyond belief. There have been NO 'scientific' studies proving any kind of 'psychic' abilities. Ever. Not one. Otherwise it would have changed the course of history for ever. Now go win the lottery.
Lee Catherine was excellent in this interview