Hello CP & HENRY: Thank you for another great & educational tool video. When I first started buying tools all I could afford was Crapsman & SK. Using both of these tool companies devices have failed & caused me injuries. When I went to get them replaced under their BS lifetime warranty they said no. OK, I vote with my dollars & all I've purchased is Snap On & only had 2 failures in 50 + years of which were taken care of NO QUESTIONS ASKED. Only a yes sir. As a mater of fact the first 3/8 drive Snap On ratchet was replaced because of a terrible grinding noise inside & a very high backdrag + it was over 58 years old & replaced with a new one no questions asked. Since I've been a sub of your channel CP you have broaddened my scope of many tool manufacturers & all have been terrific sir. Yes I still have sockets & wrenches etc that date back 62 + years but the bottom line is that there is a massive difference, you can feel in your hand, between a 62 + year old Crapsman open end wrench & a Snap On flank drive plus open end wrench or for that matter a Snap On socket. Many of you think I'm nuts but next year I'll be working on vehicles for 63 years & love the feel, control, & engagement between the wrench / socket onto a nut or fastener. Any moron with a power tool can rip & trear fasteners + sheer everything off, it doesn’t take any brains to do that. When you work on very high end vehicles that cost $$ 200,000.00 + dollars on up, the customer not only expects but demands the best you can give & I have every right to charge according & I do. You work on that Kia and Hyundai garbage all you need is a hammer & roll of duck tape. One thing you must take care of your tools cause not only does your life depend on it but so does your future income. I detest mechanics that jerry rig crap because they don't have the correct tools thereby breaking an expense component on a cystomers car & now me the shop owner it's my responsibility to replace it out of my pocket. Thanks again Chad & my best to Henry. TMP from N.J.
Sadly, the US has gone from a manufacturing nation, to a consumer nation. The price of doing business in the US has skyrocketed with safety regulations, pollution regulations, corporate taxes and labor expenses. The major "Tool Truck" brands have gone to overseas production with their secondary brands in order to compete in today's market. They are able to still offer a lifetime guaranty on these tools. Looking at the tool truck flyer videos I've noticed the increase in price of US manufactured tools. They have become borderline ridiculous for certain items. I can't justify spending almost $200 for a 3/8 drive ratchet at this stage in my life as I only make occasional repairs. I try to buy as little of Chinese tools as I can. I don't mind Taiwanese tools as they are pretty sturdy and have served me well. Even though a tool may be made in the US it is made with "Globally Sourced Materials". The manufacturer is going to cut corners somewhere which is evident with the Tekton pry bar handles. I would choose the Lisle over the Tekton. One thing is for certain. The pocket clip would inevitably break off for sure during my use.
pretty much how it is.. i can't justify the price of branded tools my cheap tools do everything i ask of them. it's all redneckery in the driveway or back yard though. not a day in day out thing and a lot of times, it's a china made part or hardware i'm using. don't like it but bills don't care if you can make it to work or not and what tool you used to fix the junker in the driveway.
This has been going on for Decades. Companies have one thing as a priority - Money/Profits. Nothing else. They don't care about workers, jobs, anything, just short term gains. So ship the manufacturing overseas and get a bigger profit margin. Quality of the product doesn't even enter these CEOs mind.
@@marcelcovaci9922not really cheap just cheaply made. Ex.. look at the china craftsman stuff. Cheap garbage but, the price tag went up… Husky, Kobolt, Master Force, Stanley all where once USA made; now there all made overseas. But, now the quality on all of them suck ass and the prices are all higher too. So, I guess what I’m trying to say is, not everyone is looking for a “deal”. I’d gladly grab a set of old stock screwdrivers from craftsman over the garage they have now.
When a business is beholden to shareholder profits, nothing else matters. THAT is capitalism in the U.S. and it affects all of the goods we make and sell. Unfortunately it's always at the expense of the worker who is ALSO a consumer. We need to look at countries like Germany. How and Why do they produce many superior products, yet keep the prices competitive? It's a rhetorical question, but one we must examine honestly. I have a pair of those Lisle mini pry bars too and I LOVE them!
I ordered the Lisle as soon as I saw it on your video. I have had them all SO, Matco, Mac, this lisle is by far and wide better than any other. Thanks for the recommendation! 👍🏻
Tools reflect the people that make them, that's why you see the US tool making going down hill. The US is in decay in multiple ways, the tools reflect it. Don't hate on 3rd world countries who try to get in the game, they'd love to up their game and I believe they will.
Something to remember about that old GM, back then, almost every fastener and bolt on the truck would have been made in the same factory that it was installed at. That is a crazy thought in today's world of specialized manufacturing, When I buy tools I look for two things, how good of a tool can I afford, and how close can I spend my money. I try to buy things made as locally as possible, and when that isn't feasible, I will buy something made further away from someone who is local. If my money has to go to a factory in Europe, I'm ok with that, as long as the markup goes to a retailer down the road from me. Harbor freight and Amazon aren't going to sponsor any little league teams, let alone my kids, so I prefer to buy from the Proto rack at the local hardware store or off the Mac or Snapon truck.
CP I appreciate everything you bring to us. Still makes me sad when I think of what corporate greed has done to the American working person. They continue to get rich of the working man. I think of what the large mergers of the Danaher group and the Cooper group into the Apex tool group. With the sale of that we lost so many great American brands, Armstrong, Allen, Plumb, Crescent, H.K. Porter, Weller etc. Some where discontinued and the ones that remained are no longer made in this country. Of course the loss of Sears and the American made Craftsman line is another huge blow. I can remember going to Sears with my Dad and just going thru the huge tool section. Still have some great U.S.A. brands Klein, Proto, Vaughan, and Snap on. Because of you though I have tried Tekton and Capri and found those to be pretty good. Thanks for letting me reminisce.
Sk used to be my favorite brand, I recently bought their x -frame ratchet wrenches, they said USA made on the website, when I got them 2 were made in china!! Sent them back, not paying top $ for china!! I'm done with sk!!! Sad, but that's what its come down to!!! Thanks cp, for another great video!!
It kills me as someone who was born down the street from the EASCO plant and grew up in an area where craftsmen were proud of their USA Made tools, that the new generation of mechanics and tradesmen have decided to buy cheap tools. I was raised on the saying “don’t buy cheap tools or cheap guns”. I understand that not everyone can afford Snap-On; I get that and there WAS always alternatives that were still quality affordable USA made eg S-K, Armstrong etc. but these younger guys chose Blue-Point/Blue Power and now ICON because they just want the cheapest option with a warranty that gets the job done, even if it breaks 10x they don’t care as long as it’s warrantied. No pride in their country or foresight to hand their tools down to their sons or grandsons. I honestly still use a 100 year old Ballpeen hammer that was my grandfather’s (I put a new hickory handle on it years ago). You think anyone is going to be using an Icon hammer in 100years?!?!
One day it will be there job. When I buy a cheap tool which is hardly never if I only need it once I start to feel like I let my brothers and sisters down. I am proud to spend extra money on tools to put food on the table for other brothers and sisters. Karma is a b****
If you have a business that produces widgets and want to make them here, then you will hire an American worker at say $25 an hr and then another $25 an hr for benefits, then try selling your stock to folks. Those folks want a return on their investment. Now if you move production off shore (you dont have to meet OSHA, DOL, and the EPA), you can hire child labor for say $1 an hr, and no benefits. You can sell way more stock and provide dividends. You make way more money. Thats how it is. Sell more products, sell more stock, and pay dividends. American workers dont count
or just pocket billions like Eric Smidt at least publicly traded companies you as the little guy can own shares in. Put some of retirement savings in fund with SNA, SBD etc and when you and your colleagues all buy real tools vs Hazardous Fraud you're also helping grow your IRA....
I get the impression, at times, that Apex and other overseas tool manufacturers don't have to force leftover American tool manufacturers out of business; they can simply wait them out as most will give it up at some point. As noted by you and others, American tool quality is hardly on an upswing. Most know that American tool makers won't be the last one standing, so what would be the point to try to win something that won't happen? Short term survival and middling tool quality is likely all anyone will see. Channelock and Wilde won't hang around forever, and Klein and Ideal are realists that know the end is not that far off. However, Snap On will probably exist as long as it chooses to do so. The Chinese need someone to provide tool designs for them to copy.
I have to agree with you, CP, that the quality of some USA tools is declining? Look at the Tekton round stock mini pry bars? Only square stock is considered a pry bar in my mind?
WILDE currently makes their 8 inch ( overall length )handle pry bars with a 1/4" square shank and not too long ago made their model S85 8×3/8 flat blade driver with a 5/16" thick square shank. GRACE USA currently uses a 1/4" square shank on their N2 N3 & N4 gunsmithing screwdrivers. Some of their smaller drivers are 3/16 which is probably about the perfect stock for this. Maybe Lisle wasn't in a position to make it happen and that's understandable, but a manufacturer like WILDE who's already equipped to make similar tools can make it happen. They're already making a pry bar with the shank we want , if they decide to do it I believe they could make THE pocket pry bar to get if a person really demands American made. I'm not trying to argue or anything and whether it's going to happen is antibodies guess, but I do think it's possible.
@@CPthetooladdict I know that's not a pocket pry bar, I'm just pointing out that they use a ton of the square stock were talking about for pry bars screwdrivers and gasket scrapers among other tools all the time. Are they going to make a pocket pry bar , probably not because I've been wanting them to for years and I'm not that lucky. I think at best we'll probably see another not so pocketable size like the MAYHEW or TEKTON if anything, but they'd be fools not to get in on this and they have the means to do it right if they did.
I love it when internet cowboys have all the answers. I spent two years with what you could have done in 2 minutes. Show me how it's so easy . I won't hold my breath. This is basically how manufacturers have been failing everyone talks and have the answers but won't do the work. Guys like me are all that's left being told how to do things it's quite ironic.
I appreciate your tenacity. I certainly appreciate your patriotism, but unfortunately, you need to get involved to understand. I don't think you realize the scope of the situation.
I've been using my usa-made wrenches pliers sockets from Crescent Channellock Craftsman Klein SK I even still have my u.s.a. made Husky tools which I believe were made by New Britain a over 20 years definitely could say built to last still trying to pick up more usa-made tools before it's all over just passed down to the kid
@@TheHackingWeasel I'm there. I bought an import flare nut wrench for a job I figured there'd be the risk of destroying the ones I have. Have my next 2 Carhartt coats stored away I bought 10 years ago when I saw they were going down that road.
And with this economic crunch up here in the great white north. People are buying the cheapest of everything as it’s all they can afford. Hard to justify snappy tool when you can barely afford gas and groceries.
I try to buy Wright, channellock, and other USA made stuff especially from companies that are still owned by the families that started them. I always look for USA, Japan, or Europe options first usually in that order. I have plenty of tools from Taiwan that work great but it seems you have to be careful when choosing tools from china and Taiwan looking at you gearwrench. In today’s market it’s more about the company itself and there standards then the country of manufacturing.
The biggest problem with US made tools is they are always on the most extreme spectrums of the market. Low cost and crappy (lisle) , or high quality and overpriced. Sorry to say it, but look at channel locks, they are in every way inferior to german made pliers... but they are cheaper, but they don't even feel better than made in taiwan pliers. Then on the flip side, you have snap on, but the price of their tools is so grossly over inflated its not worth it for the average man. Tell me why Japanese and German manufacturers like Knipex, NWS, Koken, ETC can provide high quality tools that are fairly priced, but US tool companies cannot. In Germany and Japan the cost of manufacturer is just as high if not higher... how is that?
It's not greed. It's simple economics, labor is much more expensive here. That's the majority of the cost that you're paying for. So it's a double-edged sword you either pay people nothing and get two products, are you have slaves make them in China
Look at who holds the most stock in the tool companies. Black Rock Vangaurd They fighting over scraps of our country. Everyone wants the cheapest shit they can find. Im sick of seeing tool box tours with ALL garbage, must have everything before a year in field and claim it holds up. Never thought i would see this
People want to cry about wanting higher wages, and they don't even see everything around them becoming more expensive as a result. It comes at a massive cost.
No, sir, that literally was after I used it once on the ground, pulling a trans severely disappointed. If this stuff is expensive, it's a waste of money.
I always thought strength was no concern but recently somebody brought up the issue of rolling...etc and I get it. I never tried any with a round shank so I didn't know what was wrong with them other than not following tradition, I suspect I'd notice the difference in short order if I had one with a round shank.
I have been saying this for years. The “made in the USA” sticker is not something that I care for anymore. I’ve seen the work ethic from our current workforce and I do not believe USA manufacturing is better than Taiwan. And Japan is for sure a better manufacturing nation than the US. It’s a shame.
The biggest issue for USA made tools today is that the competition has grown exponentially, over the last decade or so many overseas tool manufacturers have benefited from the growth in machine technology, it used to be that only a handful of tool manufacturers had the latest and greatest tooling capabilities therefore their products were always a cut above everyone else’s ability to machine a high precision tool but this isn’t the case anymore, high precision machines such as cnc and computers are a dime a dozen and even some of the very low end machines are very precise, like 10 years ago I could say that for the most part what ever tool you had in your hand snap on makes it better but that’s simply not the case anymore, just look how they struggle to keep up in the power tools department, it’s just getting harder and harder to justify the tool truck prices these days
See finally I agree. I never said snap on was a bad tool they’re one of the best for some tools. But a lot of stuff they over charge on. Like I’ve seen several different tools that share the same part number from wright and snap on but the wright version is like $200 cheaper. I know people hate icon but hopefully when more people start putting icon on their carts it tells the people at snap on something
You might think SO over charges BUT they also have the highest resale value! I have seen SOME snap on tools from the 90s that guys are selling for around the same price they were in the catalog back then. Think about that you buy something and use it to MAKE MONEY for 30 years and then sell it for what you paid! I sold some VV Craftsmen for more than I paid! Sure that isn’t true for every tool in the catalog but it’s true for many. Even at 50% of retail it’s a damn good deal. You think Icon tools will be worth anything more than scrap value in 30 years?
With things more accessible makes sense, I’ve been buying and building a tool box with tools and I can get Koken easier now than I probably could back in the day but I’m to young to know back than but my dad is a mechanic and ask
Idk bout cheap. But to me doesn't too much matter about looks. Never lost going with Lisle. Always a great product. How many manufacturers can you say that about honestly??
I'm glad I bought my USA Sk 1/4 universal set and 3/8 and 1/4 impact set. But I'm sad that if something ever happens to them with ones made in the US. I also have a pair of dikes that they made and I use those all the time. Even the name and color make me feel warm and fuzzy inside.... Damn shame
I would prefer not to support China made products. Now koken tools I think thats Japan I dont mind. Dont want to support china's Military we better watch out lol there getting pretty big
Hello CP & HENRY: Thank you for another great & educational tool video. When I first started buying tools all I could afford was Crapsman & SK. Using both of these tool companies devices have failed & caused me injuries. When I went to get them replaced under their BS lifetime warranty they said no. OK, I vote with my dollars & all I've purchased is Snap On & only had 2 failures in 50 + years of which were taken care of NO QUESTIONS ASKED. Only a yes sir. As a mater of fact the first 3/8 drive Snap On ratchet was replaced because of a terrible grinding noise inside & a very high backdrag + it was over 58 years old &
replaced with a new one no questions asked. Since I've been a sub of your channel CP you have broaddened my scope of many tool manufacturers & all have been terrific sir. Yes I still have sockets & wrenches etc that date back 62 + years but the bottom line is that there is a massive difference, you can feel in your hand, between a 62 + year old Crapsman open end wrench & a Snap On flank drive plus open end wrench or for that matter a Snap On socket. Many of you think I'm nuts but next year I'll be working on vehicles for 63 years & love the feel, control, & engagement between the wrench / socket onto a nut or fastener. Any moron with a power tool can rip & trear fasteners + sheer everything off, it doesn’t take any brains to do that. When you work on very high end vehicles that cost $$ 200,000.00 + dollars on up, the customer not only expects but demands the best you can give & I have every right to charge according & I do. You work on that Kia and Hyundai garbage all you need is a hammer & roll of duck tape. One thing you must take care of your tools cause not only does your life depend on it but so does your future income. I detest mechanics that jerry rig crap because they don't have the correct tools thereby breaking an expense component on a cystomers car & now me the shop owner it's my responsibility to replace it out of my pocket. Thanks again Chad & my best to Henry. TMP from N.J.
The lisle doesn't look cheap...just slippery.
Sad truth...still hanging on for the pride of 🇺🇸 still fighting with you Buddy..💪..but our group is dwindling..😟
Sadly, the US has gone from a manufacturing nation, to a consumer nation. The price of doing business in the US has skyrocketed with safety regulations, pollution regulations, corporate taxes and labor expenses. The major "Tool Truck" brands have gone to overseas production with their secondary brands in order to compete in today's market. They are able to still offer a lifetime guaranty on these tools. Looking at the tool truck flyer videos I've noticed the increase in price of US manufactured tools. They have become borderline ridiculous for certain items. I can't justify spending almost $200 for a 3/8 drive ratchet at this stage in my life as I only make occasional repairs. I try to buy as little of Chinese tools as I can. I don't mind Taiwanese tools as they are pretty sturdy and have served me well. Even though a tool may be made in the US it is made with "Globally Sourced Materials". The manufacturer is going to cut corners somewhere which is evident with the Tekton pry bar handles. I would choose the Lisle over the Tekton. One thing is for certain. The pocket clip would inevitably break off for sure during my use.
Completely agree with this
pretty much how it is.. i can't justify the price of branded tools my cheap tools do everything i ask of them. it's all redneckery in the driveway or back yard though. not a day in day out thing and a lot of times, it's a china made part or hardware i'm using. don't like it but bills don't care if you can make it to work or not and what tool you used to fix the junker in the driveway.
This has been going on for Decades. Companies have one thing as a priority - Money/Profits. Nothing else. They don't care about workers, jobs, anything, just short term gains. So ship the manufacturing overseas and get a bigger profit margin. Quality of the product doesn't even enter these CEOs mind.
Totally agree. But also, the consumers want cheap stuff. I’m too poor for cheap stuff
@@marcelcovaci9922 I agree. Too many Americans believe their jobs are safe. The higher-ups would send all the jobs overseas if they could.
@@marcelcovaci9922not really cheap just cheaply made. Ex.. look at the china craftsman stuff. Cheap garbage but, the price tag went up… Husky, Kobolt, Master Force, Stanley all where once USA made; now there all made overseas. But, now the quality on all of them suck ass and the prices are all higher too. So, I guess what I’m trying to say is, not everyone is looking for a “deal”. I’d gladly grab a set of old stock screwdrivers from craftsman over the garage they have now.
When a business is beholden to shareholder profits, nothing else matters. THAT is capitalism in the U.S. and it affects all of the goods we make and sell. Unfortunately it's always at the expense of the worker who is ALSO a consumer. We need to look at countries like Germany. How and Why do they produce many superior products, yet keep the prices competitive? It's a rhetorical question, but one we must examine honestly. I have a pair of those Lisle mini pry bars too and I LOVE them!
I don’t mind opening my wallet a little bit wider to get a better product made in USA. Assuming it’s better.
I very pro USA but own other stuff from Taiwan Japan and Europe but the rule of thumb is that you get what you pay for
I ordered the Lisle as soon as I saw it on your video. I have had them all SO, Matco, Mac, this lisle is by far and wide better than any other. Thanks for the recommendation! 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing!
Tools reflect the people that make them, that's why you see the US tool making going down hill. The US is in decay in multiple ways, the tools reflect it. Don't hate on 3rd world countries who try to get in the game, they'd love to up their game and I believe they will.
Something to remember about that old GM, back then, almost every fastener and bolt on the truck would have been made in the same factory that it was installed at. That is a crazy thought in today's world of specialized manufacturing,
When I buy tools I look for two things, how good of a tool can I afford, and how close can I spend my money. I try to buy things made as locally as possible, and when that isn't feasible, I will buy something made further away from someone who is local. If my money has to go to a factory in Europe, I'm ok with that, as long as the markup goes to a retailer down the road from me. Harbor freight and Amazon aren't going to sponsor any little league teams, let alone my kids, so I prefer to buy from the Proto rack at the local hardware store or off the Mac or Snapon truck.
CP I appreciate everything you bring to us. Still makes me sad when I think of what corporate greed has done to the American working person. They continue to get rich of the working man. I think of what the large mergers of the Danaher group and the Cooper group into the Apex tool group. With the sale of that we lost so many great American brands, Armstrong, Allen, Plumb, Crescent, H.K. Porter, Weller etc. Some where discontinued and the ones that remained are no longer made in this country. Of course the loss of Sears and the American made Craftsman line is another huge blow. I can remember going to Sears with my Dad and just going thru the huge tool section. Still have some great U.S.A. brands Klein, Proto, Vaughan, and Snap on. Because of you though I have tried Tekton and Capri and found those to be pretty good. Thanks for letting me reminisce.
Given there are fewer “Americans” today than yesterday it stands to reason that those Americans interested in America tools are fewer everyday.
100 million more than 40 years ago… but unfortunately the amount of Liberals is vastly higher than 40 years ago
Love the pocket prybar and as a former furniture and textile worker i have seen our jobs going away for years
Sk used to be my favorite brand, I recently bought their x -frame ratchet wrenches, they said USA made on the website, when I got them 2 were made in china!! Sent them back, not paying top $ for china!! I'm done with sk!!! Sad, but that's what its come down to!!! Thanks cp, for another great video!!
That’s sad. Those X frames were the best ratcheting wrenches.
It kills me as someone who was born down the street from the EASCO plant and grew up in an area where craftsmen were proud of their USA Made tools, that the new generation of mechanics and tradesmen have decided to buy cheap tools. I was raised on the saying “don’t buy cheap tools or cheap guns”. I understand that not everyone can afford Snap-On; I get that and there WAS always alternatives that were still quality affordable USA made eg S-K, Armstrong etc. but these younger guys chose Blue-Point/Blue Power and now ICON because they just want the cheapest option with a warranty that gets the job done, even if it breaks 10x they don’t care as long as it’s warrantied. No pride in their country or foresight to hand their tools down to their sons or grandsons. I honestly still use a 100 year old Ballpeen hammer that was my grandfather’s (I put a new hickory handle on it years ago). You think anyone is going to be using an Icon hammer in 100years?!?!
One day it will be there job. When I buy a cheap tool which is hardly never if I only need it once I start to feel like I let my brothers and sisters down. I am proud to spend extra money on tools to put food on the table for other brothers and sisters. Karma is a b****
I accidentally bought cornwell a blue power brand thinking it was American made because I’m just starting out in the trade about to go to school.
If you have a business that produces widgets and want to make them here, then you will hire an American worker at say $25 an hr and then another $25 an hr for benefits, then try selling your stock to folks. Those folks want a return on their investment. Now if you move production off shore (you dont have to meet OSHA, DOL, and the EPA), you can hire child labor for say $1 an hr, and no benefits. You can sell way more stock and provide dividends. You make way more money. Thats how it is. Sell more products, sell more stock, and pay dividends. American workers dont count
Bingo you get it
or just pocket billions like Eric Smidt at least publicly traded companies you as the little guy can own shares in. Put some of retirement savings in fund with SNA, SBD etc and when you and your colleagues all buy real tools vs Hazardous Fraud you're also helping grow your IRA....
I get the impression, at times, that Apex and other overseas tool manufacturers don't have to force leftover American tool manufacturers out of business; they can simply wait them out as most will give it up at some point. As noted by you and others, American tool quality is hardly on an upswing.
Most know that American tool makers won't be the last one standing, so what would be the point to try to win something that won't happen? Short term survival and middling tool quality is likely all anyone will see.
Channelock and Wilde won't hang around forever, and Klein and Ideal are realists that know the end is not that far off. However, Snap On will probably exist as long as it chooses to do so. The Chinese need someone to provide tool designs for them to copy.
I have to agree with you, CP, that the quality of some USA tools is declining? Look at the Tekton round stock mini pry bars? Only square stock is considered a pry bar in my mind?
Most people don't care. They shop on price only so you know what that means.
WILDE currently makes their 8 inch ( overall length )handle pry bars with a 1/4" square shank and not too long ago made their model S85 8×3/8 flat blade driver with a 5/16" thick square shank.
GRACE USA currently uses a 1/4" square shank on their N2 N3 & N4 gunsmithing screwdrivers.
Some of their smaller drivers are 3/16 which is probably about the perfect stock for this.
Maybe Lisle wasn't in a position to make it happen and that's understandable, but a manufacturer like WILDE who's already equipped to make similar tools can make it happen.
They're already making a pry bar with the shank we want , if they decide to do it I believe they could make THE pocket pry bar to get if a person really demands American made.
I'm not trying to argue or anything and whether it's going to happen is antibodies guess, but I do think it's possible.
8 inches that is not a pocket tool it's a hand tool
@@CPthetooladdict I know that's not a pocket pry bar, I'm just pointing out that they use a ton of the square stock were talking about for pry bars screwdrivers and gasket scrapers among other tools all the time.
Are they going to make a pocket pry bar , probably not because I've been wanting them to for years and I'm not that lucky.
I think at best we'll probably see another not so pocketable size like the MAYHEW or TEKTON if anything, but they'd be fools not to get in on this and they have the means to do it right if they did.
I love it when internet cowboys have all the answers. I spent two years with what you could have done in 2 minutes. Show me how it's so easy . I won't hold my breath. This is basically how manufacturers have been failing everyone talks and have the answers but won't do the work. Guys like me are all that's left being told how to do things it's quite ironic.
I appreciate your tenacity. I certainly appreciate your patriotism, but unfortunately, you need to get involved to understand. I don't think you realize the scope of the situation.
The new snap on cordless tools are made in china I still buy them I have lots of tools not made in USA It’s what’s out there nowadays
Not all of them are
I saw where the train was going years ago. I got my core stuff and got off.
I've Def been buying all I can also lol
I've been using my usa-made wrenches pliers sockets from Crescent Channellock Craftsman Klein SK I even still have my u.s.a. made Husky tools which I believe were made by New Britain a over 20 years definitely could say built to last still trying to pick up more usa-made tools before it's all over just passed down to the kid
@@TheHackingWeasel I'm there. I bought an import flare nut wrench for a job I figured there'd be the risk of destroying the ones I have. Have my next 2 Carhartt coats stored away I bought 10 years ago when I saw they were going down that road.
CP I guess I forgot Williams and Wright they are still around.
I need that lisle pry bar in my life. Thanks so much CP for having a positive influence!
I love it!
Check engine light on in the Chevy .. with all those scanners .. cmon CP!
Knock sensor mechanics don't fix there own stuff now I'm never fixing it just because you complained.
And with this economic crunch up here in the great white north. People are buying the cheapest of everything as it’s all they can afford. Hard to justify snappy tool when you can barely afford gas and groceries.
Everyone wants to make 20 to 30 dollars wage but don't want to pay the price of what it cost to pay people that. People don't use there head.
Yes it will continue to decline with a lot of manufacturers 🙁
Agreed 👍
I try to buy Wright, channellock, and other USA made stuff especially from companies that are still owned by the families that started them. I always look for USA, Japan, or Europe options first usually in that order. I have plenty of tools from Taiwan that work great but it seems you have to be careful when choosing tools from china and Taiwan looking at you gearwrench. In today’s market it’s more about the company itself and there standards then the country of manufacturing.
Thanks for sharing
You’re spot on here! 😃👍
Thanks! 👍
The biggest problem with US made tools is they are always on the most extreme spectrums of the market. Low cost and crappy (lisle) , or high quality and overpriced. Sorry to say it, but look at channel locks, they are in every way inferior to german made pliers... but they are cheaper, but they don't even feel better than made in taiwan pliers. Then on the flip side, you have snap on, but the price of their tools is so grossly over inflated its not worth it for the average man. Tell me why Japanese and German manufacturers like Knipex, NWS, Koken, ETC can provide high quality tools that are fairly priced, but US tool companies cannot. In Germany and Japan the cost of manufacturer is just as high if not higher... how is that?
You have a valid point. Even though I can't afford everything snap on. For the most part, they're the best.
It's not greed. It's simple economics, labor is much more expensive here. That's the majority of the cost that you're paying for. So it's a double-edged sword you either pay people nothing and get two products, are you have slaves make them in China
Awesome video brother. Happy Labor Day. Keep the content coming. Hope you have an incredible night. Much love and RESPECT
Thanks! You too!
Sk refusing to stand behind anything is probably the biggest reason
Spot on manufacturing comments! Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
Good points
Not at Tekton. We are growing US manufacturing here. Right in our own building. If you want to know about what we're doing, ask me!
overpriced now
Look at who holds the most stock in the tool companies.
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They fighting over scraps of our country. Everyone wants the cheapest shit they can find. Im sick of seeing tool box tours with ALL garbage, must have everything before a year in field and claim it holds up. Never thought i would see this
Amen to that how much garbage can you fit into a US genital lmao
The market is hungry for it so you would think if companies wanted to be competitive they'd bring it back, smart ones never left
Exactly 💯
I got to get myself one of them pocket prybars with that striking cap 👍🛠🇨🇦🔧😁
People want to cry about wanting higher wages, and they don't even see everything around them becoming more expensive as a result. It comes at a massive cost.
Good job. Cp you are right on the money again.
Wow, absolutely professional introduction. Like your videos~
Glad you like them!
Those Tekton handles are 40% glass fiber reinforced nylon, it's called Akulon (not cheap). Did you grab the Tekton handle with a pair of pliers?
No, sir, that literally was after I used it once on the ground, pulling a trans severely disappointed. If this stuff is expensive, it's a waste of money.
Wondering, the square vs. round bar stock, does it make a difference when it is being used as a picket prybar? What are people's thoughts on it?
The square is much easier to leverage against something. Round slips around all the time.
I always thought strength was no concern but recently somebody brought up the issue of rolling...etc and I get it.
I never tried any with a round shank so I didn't know what was wrong with them other than not following tradition, I suspect I'd notice the difference in short order if I had one with a round shank.
Square stock spreads out the force on the area being forced on and also against the prying surface, spreading out and lessening impact areas.
I have been saying this for years. The “made in the USA” sticker is not something that I care for anymore. I’ve seen the work ethic from our current workforce and I do not believe USA manufacturing is better than Taiwan. And Japan is for sure a better manufacturing nation than the US. It’s a shame.
The biggest issue for USA made tools today is that the competition has grown exponentially, over the last decade or so many overseas tool manufacturers have benefited from the growth in machine technology, it used to be that only a handful of tool manufacturers had the latest and greatest tooling capabilities therefore their products were always a cut above everyone else’s ability to machine a high precision tool but this isn’t the case anymore, high precision machines such as cnc and computers are a dime a dozen and even some of the very low end machines are very precise, like 10 years ago I could say that for the most part what ever tool you had in your hand snap on makes it better but that’s simply not the case anymore, just look how they struggle to keep up in the power tools department, it’s just getting harder and harder to justify the tool truck prices these days
Sk went to wilde flush fasteners after the change up are they still going that route or are they duratech now
See finally I agree. I never said snap on was a bad tool they’re one of the best for some tools. But a lot of stuff they over charge on. Like I’ve seen several different tools that share the same part number from wright and snap on but the wright version is like $200 cheaper. I know people hate icon but hopefully when more people start putting icon on their carts it tells the people at snap on something
You might think SO over charges BUT they also have the highest resale value! I have seen SOME snap on tools from the 90s that guys are selling for around the same price they were in the catalog back then. Think about that you buy something and use it to MAKE MONEY for 30 years and then sell it for what you paid! I sold some VV Craftsmen for more than I paid! Sure that isn’t true for every tool in the catalog but it’s true for many. Even at 50% of retail it’s a damn good deal. You think Icon tools will be worth anything more than scrap value in 30 years?
@@OldBeaterGarage cool
They couldn't make up something to roll round wire to square before it's cut
Love your videos keep it up. Good video
Glad you like them!
With things more accessible makes sense, I’ve been buying and building a tool box with tools and I can get Koken easier now than I probably could back in the day but I’m to young to know back than but my dad is a mechanic and ask
My snap-on box is 95% snap-on I don't really feel that bad no more lol
Happy Labor Day, CP.
Same to you!
I had such high hopes for the new Craftsman USA line. Way to crush my inner child's dreams, SBD
Idk bout cheap. But to me doesn't too much matter about looks. Never lost going with Lisle. Always a great product. How many manufacturers can you say that about honestly??
Would you reccomend the new Tekton mini pry bars?
Yes
Snap on uses virgin alloy steel and made in usa
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Lisle definitely looks better!
Thanks
No problem
Great video 🪛🔧🔩
Glad you enjoyed
I'm glad I bought my USA Sk 1/4 universal set and 3/8 and 1/4 impact set. But I'm sad that if something ever happens to them with ones made in the US. I also have a pair of dikes that they made and I use those all the time. Even the name and color make me feel warm and fuzzy inside.... Damn shame
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dang I thought the tektons were gonna be dope lol
you should try the mayhew mini pry bar
To long not impressive enough for me to even want to buy
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Make it for $20 in USA and put a real clip that doesn’t loosen and break off after 1 second.
I would prefer not to support China made products. Now koken tools I think thats Japan I dont mind. Dont want to support china's Military we better watch out lol there getting pretty big