SM7B vs SM58 Mic SHOWDOWN

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  • čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
  • Updated version of video now available looking at how to physically change an SM58 to an SM7B! - • Turn Your SM58 Into an...
    Timestamps
    00:00 Intro
    2:04 Technical differences with Dylan Lalonde
    9:22 Sound comparisons with Aiden
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    The SM7B and the SM58 are known as two of the best mics for their jobs...respectively.
    But generally the SM7B is considered the better mic, despite having almost exactly the same guts.
    So which is better?
    Are they that much different?
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  • @DarkCornerStudios
    @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety +16

    Check out the latest video where I actually CHANGE an SM58 INTO an SM7B!!!
    czcams.com/video/rXPHGrR_JA8/video.html

  • @ryansecor
    @ryansecor Před 4 lety +389

    I think this video just convinced me to stick with my sm58 and spend $400 on something else. Thanks!

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety +14

      Glad I can help!!...
      Thanks for watching!!!

    • @darnellcaballes
      @darnellcaballes Před 4 lety +9

      ditto. I was gonna go the 2i2+cl+sm7b... but this vid convinced me to go 4i4+sm58, and save a $300. thx for the vid.

    • @pasoundman
      @pasoundman Před 3 lety +5

      Have you considered a brand other than Shure ? It makes a difference you know. If you like the '58 a lot, can I also suggest the '48. It too drops the transformer, looks like a '58, has a smoother response like the '7B and costs less than either. There are some wicked finds to be found in some less expensive microphones made by the usual suspects. There's no advantage you see in them making a bad capsule just to fit in their less expensive offerings, so you may find a gem using a capsule used in the better mikes in a different package. AKG has or had plenty of examples of this.

    • @rvs8465
      @rvs8465 Před 3 lety +1

      I'm sort of sad to say I'm with ya

    • @tomorrowsendpodcast7228
      @tomorrowsendpodcast7228 Před 3 lety +5

      From my studio change from garbage china copies of SM58's to more "expensive mics" (I was dumb and went to condensers, the worst mic type for small room podcasting) I'm going back to the SM58's they just sound better, they also reject room noise and reflections better, at way lower cost. (Mine were $19 each new and sound identical to the real SM58's I own)

  • @ForestOfSleep
    @ForestOfSleep Před 4 lety +285

    The SM7B seems like massive overkill for what a lot of people use it for.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety +41

      Yeah...there is a LOT of status involved with the mic.
      That being said...there is a reason it has been used as the main mic on pop songs for years.
      It is a great mic.
      Perhaps just not necessary for everyone

    • @dylanlalondemusic
      @dylanlalondemusic Před 4 lety +13

      Absolutely. It’s a gorgeous mic but if you know how to use a mic properly, many less costly options will also suffice just fine.

    • @abnormallynormal8823
      @abnormallynormal8823 Před 3 lety +7

      Dylan Lalonde an sm57 with an a81 windscreen and a fethead will do almost the same thing as an sm7b. Throw the a55 shock mount on it for good measure.

    • @Zarabozo
      @Zarabozo Před 3 lety +3

      @@DarkCornerStudios Dude, it has *not* been used as the main mic on pop songs. Not even close. It's heavily used for rap and some times used for other genres where it suits the singer's voice, but the main choice in recording studios for singers has been a condenser microphone like the AKG C12 or the Neumann U87 for many, many decades. Now, the SM7B it has been one of the most used microphones for everything voice-over related (commercials, radio, etc.), and yes, there's a good reason for that.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety +21

      @@Zarabozo Dude...it is well documented.
      Google is easy...
      Thanks for watching though......

  • @CrustaceousB
    @CrustaceousB Před 4 lety +84

    I haven't gotten 2 minutes through the video and I desperately feel the need to compliment your voice. Holy shit it's perfect! Not too deep or gnarly but not nasely or high. Just a nice balance. Sorry for that, I'm weird and appreciate smooth voices alot. Lol

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety +15

      That is the sweetest compliment I have ever gotten.
      Thanks for that and thank you for listening!

  • @tahirsanli
    @tahirsanli Před 3 lety +1

    super interesting video. thanks for this. was thinking of getting an SM58 and you helped me consolidate my opinion.

  • @HippySpeedballPodcast
    @HippySpeedballPodcast Před 2 lety +14

    Yes! I use SM58 mics on my podcast and it works amazing. I wish I could use condensers but I don't have a treated room at the moment. But the SM58 is great for a podcast with the proximity effect it has as well as it's ability to both pick up quiet voices and not be blown out when people laugh, get loud, etc. And they're amazing for travel if you take your podcast to other locations. Great video, man!

  • @crooker2
    @crooker2 Před 4 lety +46

    I would love for you to do that same test with pop filtering on the 58. The 58 surprised me.

  • @siewkimng1085
    @siewkimng1085 Před 3 lety +4

    Sticking with my SM58 too lol. Thanks for the video!

  • @jimdown9061
    @jimdown9061 Před 4 lety +33

    In my experience the SM7B picks up less unwanted background noise than the SM58. That’s why it’s such a popular choice for podcasts and radio. I use it for vocals in my home studio because my apartment walls are thin and I sometimes get some background street noise. The SM7B does a great job not picking those sounds up and gives me cleaner and clearer results off the bat, so less need for editing and eq. The SM58 is a great rugged mic for using live, you can drop it, accidentally hit it with a drumstick if you’re mic’ing your snare, and it keeps on chugging. Those extra background frequencies are less of worry when you’re playing in a club and there’s tons of spill on all the mics. They’re both fantastic and legendary mics, but it’s all about knowing how they respond in different situations, and using the right mic for the right job.

  • @suckmyduck7029
    @suckmyduck7029 Před 2 lety +17

    I think it would have been far, far harder to tell if you used a pop filer in the sm58 as the pre-built pop filter in the 7B gave away which was which pretty quickly

  • @Greg-tj8rg
    @Greg-tj8rg Před 2 lety +3

    I guessed B was the sm7b at first listen just because of the volume difference. I would love to see a rematch where you have the sm7b and sm58 mic element at a similar ~2" distance and a pop filter in front of the sm58. Thank you for the great video. Liked and subscribed

  • @jlebreton
    @jlebreton Před 3 lety +1

    Wow, I never thought these 2 mics had the same capsule. They sound the same except for the popping on the 58, and for good reasons. Thank you for this demonstration!

  • @BizantyjskiBorsuk
    @BizantyjskiBorsuk Před 4 lety +1

    Nice one I was thinking to have dynamic mic and was looking at SM58 before man what a great vid!

  • @jonathanvenegas7543
    @jonathanvenegas7543 Před 2 lety +46

    I could tell A was the 58 before I even heard the 7b. The low end is much smoother and resonant on the 7b, and the 58 has tons of plosives, and a sharper presence at 6k. It’s also grainier because of the transformer. I use these mics professionally, and if you’re doing some serious studio work, it’s a no brained to always grab the 7b over the 58.

    • @urbnctrl
      @urbnctrl Před 2 lety +1

      Impressive you can hear 6k off the top! Just kidding ofcourse you are right, for the highest production quality the 7b is the clear winner. But I wouldn't say 300€ worth more for most use cases. That being said there is a difference for a reason and each use case needs different solutions.

    • @jonathanvenegas7543
      @jonathanvenegas7543 Před 2 lety +2

      @@urbnctrl agreed. It depends how often you’re going to use it. If you’re using the mics everyday, 300 isn’t much when you consider the many years of potential use you’ll get from it.

  • @stestetsonmusic
    @stestetsonmusic Před rokem +6

    SM58 or 57 with a pop filter are great for vocal production especially at home studios because there is usually noise around a home or from neighbours which a condensor would pic up. Dynamic mics will still pick things up but not nearly as much so if your making music at home then this could be a great tool

  • @RavenWednesday
    @RavenWednesday Před 3 lety +2

    This is an Excellent video , can’t wait to purchase the SM58

  • @elginfans
    @elginfans Před rokem

    great commentary my friend, very informative! thank you.

  • @peterk5124
    @peterk5124 Před 3 lety +33

    Only audible difference on mic B was less plosives (SM7B). Difference in tone between the two mics is hardly discernible. Get a standard studio pop filter ($15) and use the SM58.

    • @chokzholics
      @chokzholics Před rokem +2

      no

    • @grimecube
      @grimecube Před rokem +2

      When I got my SM58 some 5 years ago, I was a bit bothered by the pops, so I just pulled a sock over it while I'd look for a filter. I still haven't bought one lol.

    • @3Vizo
      @3Vizo Před rokem +4

      @@grimecube link me the sock😅

  • @siramcoalter8175
    @siramcoalter8175 Před 4 lety +5

    Thanks to this and other similarly helpful videos I saved 300 on the mic and got a better audio mixer. Don't feel like I'll be sacrificing quality either. Thanks!

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety +1

      Amazing!
      The interface is rather important.
      Thanks for watching!!

  • @mauriciozani4655
    @mauriciozani4655 Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing comparison!

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety

      Thanks!
      I have the second part coming up Monday...Showing how to mechanically turn an SM58 into an SM7B
      Gonna be cool!

  • @sdhynes
    @sdhynes Před 3 lety

    Lovely video. Very entertaining and well done!

  • @farmaseutti
    @farmaseutti Před 4 lety +4

    I love my SM7B and I didn't test any others but the sound comes from there is just beautiful and I love it , no regrets

  • @thane_snipes
    @thane_snipes Před 4 lety +28

    Could tell them apart even without the 58's heightened plosives, but they weren't all that different. The 58 was a little sharper in the high mids/treble region, but to my ears they both sounded a bit woolly/muddy on your voice. I understand why the SM7B is so popular, but I think a lot of people (mainly streamers on twitch) choose it for its looks rather than an evaluation of what sounds best for the money. If you wanted a nice audio setup for streaming on a budget, a 57 with the A81 WS windscreen might be all you ever need. Other than that, I think multi-pattern condenser mics are underrated. If you know how to place the mic, the figure of 8 pattern is a godsend for rejecting unwanted noises. Cheers and thanks for the video!

  • @mryechkin
    @mryechkin Před 3 lety

    That was super informative and a great comparison! Had no idea they are so close in sound quality (at least, given the price difference). I feel like with a pop filter the difference in sound quality to an average listener would be almost indistinguishable

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety +1

      Check out the latest video I did on them...its even closer!

  • @jeffreyduncan989
    @jeffreyduncan989 Před 2 lety +2

    I love them both. the built in pop filter is really nice for being on stage and the feedback rejection is a little better with the sm7b.

  • @tomvice
    @tomvice Před 3 lety +43

    SM58 is A, you could hear the proximity effect (more low end) when you got closer

    • @juteparadisechillmusic345
      @juteparadisechillmusic345 Před 3 lety

      You could hear it and I liked it. I didn’t like the popping but the low end was noice

    • @openofficeguru287
      @openofficeguru287 Před 2 lety

      I wish he had tested them with the capsules at the same distance from his face. I could totally tell when it was the 58 because of sibilance but I'm wondering if just making sure the capsule of the 58 is the same distance as the 7b guard provides will give you a similar sound.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 2 lety

      Stay tuned...an updated video to follow.
      Btw the differential in capsules is about an inch...

  • @MaitreduMal
    @MaitreduMal Před 3 lety +3

    thx for the infos, I'll take the NT2A you are using instead ^^

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah...I love this mic...
      Pretty decent display for the difference between condenser and dynamics
      Cheers and thanks for watching.

  • @OfficeofthePacific
    @OfficeofthePacific Před 2 lety +2

    Great video! I owned an SM7B but upgraded to an outstanding tube mic the Vanguard V13 (insanely good!) and sold the SM7B. Recently I bought an SM58 for Music video stuff and I happened upon your video. I was debating about the SM7B or RE20 for double-tracking lead vocals or changing up mics for background vocals. After watching this, it is super clear that I will just use the SM58. Thank you again! Great job! You just saved me $559 because I'd have to get a cloud lifter too! Hahahahaha

  • @marshpw
    @marshpw Před 2 lety

    Both are great. To me it was very obvious which was which. But fun to see a comparison and a great explination. Thanks!

  • @ccc369
    @ccc369 Před 4 lety +12

    My listeners prefer the SM58 over all my other mics so I now use it almost exclusively - I use the A58WS foam windscreen on the mic and there are no plosives. Basically it sounds almost like the SM7B before EQ and you can make it sound the same with a bit of EQ.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety +3

      There is a reason the sm58 is considered one of the most reliable mics

  • @JamieClark
    @JamieClark Před 4 lety +4

    Never mind pop filter, you had the tip of the wind screens lined up, but that brings the element of the 58 about 2” closer - maybe if the elements were lined up, there would be even less difference? Maybe that’s the magic, add some extra gain and stay out of the proximity boom-space? Wish I had an sm7b at home to test like that...

    • @dylanlalondemusic
      @dylanlalondemusic Před 4 lety +2

      The element of the SM7B is significantly further away from the business end of the housing which really helps to eliminate the proximity boom even when you’re right on it eating the mic. So yeah if that was accounted for on the AB test by moving the 58 back by a bit, it likely would have helped shift the 58’s tone a bit more realistically for the experiment.

  • @stevelunavich4257
    @stevelunavich4257 Před 4 lety +2

    Great vid mate! Funny, I’ve performed for years on stage with the SM58 and SM57 and never really stopped to find out what makes them tick. You guys certainly showed that here. The SM58 is my favourite mic ever because it’s so reliable. It’s rugged, no nonsense, and affordable. It just turns up everyday and gets the job done with quality results. So whilst I’ve been pondering the idea of getting more expensive mics for podcasts and so forth, you’ve really shown I don’t have to. Thanks heaps! Peace ✌🏽

  • @joelaber6979
    @joelaber6979 Před 4 lety +1

    Very well-done and informative vid!! I use an SM58 for my vids and a KSM27 for my radio show and commercial recordings. I have also used the SM7B in many radio studios and I love it!! It's my DREAM mic!! :)

  • @ollie-d
    @ollie-d Před 3 lety +4

    I love the SM58 due to its versatility. It's my go to mic for vocal recordings and I also use it as my snareside mic with the filter off (although an SM57 is better for this). My bandmates swear by the SM7B and we used it as our vocal mic for recording and gigging primarily, but when we've forgotten it the SM58 always works and sounds great

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for watching!

    • @jlgonthebeat3080
      @jlgonthebeat3080 Před 2 lety

      I can agree on this. I have been looking for a good microphone that can handle louder vocals and I just can’t bring myself to spend $400 when the sm57 and sm58 are barely any different. Stick a pop filter on them and you basically have the same microphone. I will most likely end up getting the sm58

  • @ScottWinters
    @ScottWinters Před 4 lety +3

    Great comparison. I have seen so many reviews about the holy grail SM7B. For me i think the 58 would be my go to based solely on price point. i do like the look of the 7B, but the price is outta range for most people, like me starting out. I still use my XM8500's and just recently purchased the podmic, i use both with great results. I would definitely go with the 58 and and use the rest of my money for other equipment. Also, had you used a foam screen on the 58 the giveaway would not have been as obvious because they are very similar audio characteristics. Cool video my friend have a great day.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety

      Thanks Scott.
      I couldnt find the foam for the video...kinda gave it away...but yeah.
      It is tough to tell, and in a podcast environment, it would be literally impossible to tell.
      Thanks for watching!!

  • @dyonight
    @dyonight Před rokem +1

    Also, the capsule was closer to your mouth with the SM58 than with the SM7b, which is deeper in the housing. Backing off the SM58 could have made them even more similar! Great comparison thanks a lot!

  • @MrAvaraa
    @MrAvaraa Před 3 lety

    Much love. This was a super excellent video. Going with my Shure beta 58a which I understand is just a slightly evolved and broader mic compared to its older sibling.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety +1

      Beautiful...glad we could help.
      Cheers and thanks for watching!

  • @raydandy4899
    @raydandy4899 Před 3 lety +11

    Excellent video. I have several SM 58 mics and one SM57 and I do see the SM7B in use a lot and had no idea they had the same capsule. The slight advantage of the SM7B mics physical packaging doesn't make it worth $300 more than a good old SM58. I have played pro and semi pro doing weekly gigs since the mid 70's and still have the same SM58 that I bought used around 1975. It's been beaten and abused (not on purpose) and has survived numerous extended road trips over the years. I have changed the ball head on it several times but other than that I can't say anything negative about the SM58. It's reputation as the worlds best on stage vocal mic is still in tact. The SM7B looks great but too much of a difference in price for the same sound in a prettier package. Get an SM58 and a pop screen and you are good to go. Spent that extra $300 on upgrading other equipment.

  • @3158mit
    @3158mit Před 4 lety +11

    Yup, sticking with my ol' SM58. Peace

  • @MichaelWilliams-lo3ix
    @MichaelWilliams-lo3ix Před 2 lety

    Great review

  • @jlwagner79
    @jlwagner79 Před 4 lety

    This is a most excellent explanation!

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety +1

      This is my favourite response.
      We need to start saying most excellent more often!!
      Thanks for watching

  • @mikal
    @mikal Před 3 lety +5

    The major giveaway was the plosives. I knew that would be the 58.

  • @Musiquedecor
    @Musiquedecor Před 3 lety +3

    I have the SM58 from my band days, and I still use it for streaming

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety +1

      That mic is a beast!
      Thanks for watching!

    • @ray.deathray
      @ray.deathray Před 3 lety

      Same here. My SM58 got a lot of use in my musician days a decade ago. It holds up with no issues whatsoever for teleconferencing now. Even the grill is the same as the one I started out with. Just needed to hammer the dents out.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety

      They are all a tad dented no?

    • @ray.deathray
      @ray.deathray Před 3 lety

      @@DarkCornerStudios Whenever I came across one in a live show, the grill always seemed to be at least a little bit smooshed. We played punk, so I took it as a sign of quality performances. I was about to buy a replacement grill when I brought it back out, but found that I was able to reshape it to looking like new.

  • @joeloesch1219
    @joeloesch1219 Před rokem

    Excellent detail in your teaching. Thanks much

  • @aydoganrm3295
    @aydoganrm3295 Před rokem

    Very handy video. I’m a regular podcaster and I was thinking of investing in a SM7B. I own a SM58 but never used it for podcasting, just live recording. Given me huge food for thought

  • @odomodometer
    @odomodometer Před 2 lety +4

    I've had my sm58 since the mid nineties and it still works flawlessly.

    • @happydeath1575
      @happydeath1575 Před 2 lety

      Hey which xlr do u use with sm58

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 2 lety

      Do you mean which cable?
      Cables dont matter...they have zero impact on the sound

    • @happydeath1575
      @happydeath1575 Před 2 lety

      @@DarkCornerStudios still can you suggest me one

    • @happydeath1575
      @happydeath1575 Před 2 lety

      @@DarkCornerStudiossome xlr cables produce static noise... So just wondering about xlr cable which we need to connect to audio interface... And sm58 comes with no cable

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 2 lety

      Anything around a buck a foot is fine...I like the Neutrik connectors...so make sure it has them

  • @KingFredrickVI
    @KingFredrickVI Před 3 lety +15

    I have an SM58 for my setup and I think it's great!
    I could tell purely because the SM58 didn't have a popfilter lol

  • @privaesea6046
    @privaesea6046 Před rokem

    That was great, thank you so much.

  • @feuras
    @feuras Před 3 lety +1

    Sm58 owner shopping for a Sm7. Awesome video, very useful, thanks!

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety +1

      Check out the updated version of it...where I actually turn an sm58 INTO an SM7B

  • @JoeMama-jf3zd
    @JoeMama-jf3zd Před 4 lety +24

    why the hell does he not have millions of subscribers?

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety +5

      That is a sweet sentiment.
      Growth is there...slowly marching forward.
      Thanks for your support!

    • @dylanlalondemusic
      @dylanlalondemusic Před 4 lety +3

      I ask myself that every time he posts a video. Stellar content.

  • @Olav529
    @Olav529 Před 4 lety +6

    it is actually really easy to hear the difference between the microphones because if you listen the sm58 has much more plosives

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety

      Yeah...a good lesson on monitoring your audio...heh

    • @StanTheBland
      @StanTheBland Před 4 lety

      If that's it then sm7b isn't worth it

    • @Olav529
      @Olav529 Před 4 lety +1

      Stan The Bland but if you have the money and want a real good microphone for podcast or streaming etc. it would be a good choice. But it is really expensive

  • @ChitranjanBaghiofficial

    You sir have saved me a lot of money, may you live long and prosper. 🖖

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety +1

      Cheers!
      Extra points for the Star Trek reference!
      Thanks for watching!!

  • @kelwinkwel
    @kelwinkwel Před 3 měsíci

    Thankx this help get my first xlr mic m58 and eventually get the sm7b.

  • @DavidPennybaker
    @DavidPennybaker Před 4 lety +3

    Very easy for me to tell the difference, just from the "plosives" in the SM58.
    Would've been interesting to put a standard pop filter on the SM58 and then repeat the test.
    That being said, I just used an SM7B (for the first time) in a studio for a song I've written. I was impressed.
    An advantage of the SM58, I think, in the hands of a singer who knows what he's doing, is the ability to use the "proximity effect" (along with volume control of the voice) to really change up how the singer sounds during a performance. "Mic control", done properly by an expert, is amazing to see/hear.

  • @pklosterman73
    @pklosterman73 Před 3 lety

    EXCELLENT video. Thank you.

  • @lawrencerasmus
    @lawrencerasmus Před 3 lety

    Great information

  • @speakoid
    @speakoid Před 3 lety +4

    For the price of one SM7B you can get a full podcast setup of multiple SM58 mics with pop filters and even a couple of FetHeads thrown in for some clean gain boost. Plus you can then use the mics for any live stage podcasts or music performances too. As an ex-touring musician, I'll never stray from the SM58.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety

      The thing is a workhorse.
      I have a video coming up showing how to actually turn an sm58 INTO an SM7B.
      Just a lil bit of surgery...its amazing how close they are mechanically...

    • @speakoid
      @speakoid Před 3 lety

      @@DarkCornerStudios Well I'm looking forward to that one then!

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety

      @@speakoid Coming in the new year...gonna be a lot of work...looking forward to it though

  • @metaldefender49
    @metaldefender49 Před 3 lety +3

    Great video with that said I own both and the the Sm7B is well worth the price IF YOU HAVE a CLOUD LIFTER as it's meant to be used with according to most pros. I've tried both on my podcast and for my voice the 7B smokes it on the lows. Again it all depends on the source.

  • @PhotoShap
    @PhotoShap Před 3 lety +1

    Just the video I was looking for so thank you very much. I’d love to see a follow up with a sunscreen on the sm58 to test with plosive control.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety

      Yeah...I have another video coming up soon...stay tuned for that

  • @jimmyhudzgarage
    @jimmyhudzgarage Před rokem

    My cousin Jamie used to sing with an SM57, it was like a tank and he used it for everything. I was considering one for voice over work with a filter. I think that you can't go wrong with one and it's so versatile. The price point is excellent. I just can't afford an RE20 or other high dollar mic right now but I hope to in the future. Great video by the way guys.

  • @jordanmichaelhamlin
    @jordanmichaelhamlin Před 3 lety +3

    Great video!! They should sell a case for the SM58 to make it look like a SM7B. I would pay $30 bucks for that lol!

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety

      Lol...so many small youtubers would buy it...
      Thanks for watching!

    • @Jxm26
      @Jxm26 Před rokem

      To anybody that sees this a year later for future reference, there are downloadable 3d print files to essentially replicate the body for the sm58 to fit into if the aesthetics are a concern for you

  • @Cubebass
    @Cubebass Před 3 lety +4

    while guessing i was like "that proximity effect thoooooooooooo"

  • @RockYourBestVocals
    @RockYourBestVocals Před 3 lety

    Thanks for doing this - GREAT video! You really should have a lot more followers with this great content and smooth silky voice! I'm sticking with my old standby Beta 58A (for now) and will spend the money on some other toys! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼

  • @moedemama
    @moedemama Před rokem +1

    Whats noticable is that the sm7b is really level volume wise, while you can hear glimpses of the proximity effect on the sm58. If you would put them side by side and align their capsules instead of the outside grills, they would sound even more alike, plus a pop filter and they would be indistinguishable. Cool video, thanks

  • @DarkCornerStudios
    @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety +30

    So which one are you going for?
    The sexy or the serviceable?

    • @ScottWinters
      @ScottWinters Před 4 lety +4

      For the sake longevity would be the serviceable.

    • @ReeWebster
      @ReeWebster Před 4 lety +10

      My 58’s and 57’s have seen things that would make the 7B cry. Longevity, makes for better history.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety +4

      @@ReeWebster I am curious and also cautious at the same time...lol.
      Thanks for watching!!

    • @ulfrinn8783
      @ulfrinn8783 Před 3 lety +1

      I use a Samson Q2U which many will say sound better than an SM58. So if the SM58 is pretty much an SM7B without a built in shock mount and pop filter, that's saying a lot for the $60 I paid for it.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety +6

      @@HentaiHappy nice!
      Lol.
      I have both too...but don't tell my wife

  • @SpecialAbonnent
    @SpecialAbonnent Před 4 lety +30

    yeah your breath really gave it away :D I heard it in the first 2 seconds

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety +5

      It's all the hot air.
      The stuff just rushes out of me...heh

    • @SpecialAbonnent
      @SpecialAbonnent Před 4 lety +2

      @@DarkCornerStudios but nice comparison, they really sound very similar

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety +1

      @@SpecialAbonnent thanks for watching!!

    • @stoqpotz
      @stoqpotz Před 4 lety

      yep, pretty much...but the sm58 sounds great

    • @mikalfatale8329
      @mikalfatale8329 Před 3 lety

      I think if he had an a popper to the 58 you won’t be able to tell the difference at all

  • @matthiasbernold2075
    @matthiasbernold2075 Před 4 lety +1

    nice video. very well explained. thanks a lot.

  • @Philminator
    @Philminator Před 4 lety

    Great review. I'm still debating between Sm7b and RE27. That's what I've narrowed my search down to, though I am happy with my 55SH Series II, I feel tempted to at least compare it to one other mic at least, before I make a final decision.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety

      If you can find a place that does rentals...its a huge help.
      Here in Canada its Long and McQuade...not sure what you got in your neck of the woods

  • @citadelasoundproduction9412

    The difference between them is huge. Also, comparing processed signals is absurd. The 58 is way more present, and less detailed, more output. The SM7 is more detalied, sounds overall bigger, and fatter, and darker. It's very good with dealing with those harsh frequencies when it comes to recording loud screaming, singing, brass, hi hats, stuff like that. The 58 even boosts those, which does make it more applicable in live situations where the sound needs to cut through a mix. Yes, of course you can record great sounding speech with an SM58, but the SM7b still outperforms it in a studio environment.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety +2

      Of course there are reasons to choose the SM7B over the SM58...but not really the point of the video.
      The point was the processed signals and the similarities between them.
      Yes they have very different uses and yeah...the SM7 is legendary...but when doing spoken word...its amazing how quickly people pass over the 58

    • @citadelasoundproduction9412
      @citadelasoundproduction9412 Před 3 lety

      @daveporter32043 As a professional, you are 100% right, and I find it really sad... But, in an utopian environment where money is not the issue, and you're recording for your own ears (eg. recording your own album, recording an audiobook to listen to later, or something), I'd still go for the SM7, and give it my best. :)

    • @citadelasoundproduction9412
      @citadelasoundproduction9412 Před 3 lety

      @Mister Problematic Well, that depends on how you look at it. It's not as big as if it were a Shure Beta 52a, but when I think of the SM58, i think "a bit harsh, cuts through the mix", when I think SM7, i think "smooth, sits well in the back of the mix" kind of voice. It's a question of resolution. :)

  • @abnormallynormal8823
    @abnormallynormal8823 Před 3 lety +6

    SM57 with an A81 windscreen and an a55 shock mount will do the same thing as an sm7b for half the price

  • @jeffreyhackmedia
    @jeffreyhackmedia Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this video! I own and use the SM58. I could definitely tell the different between the two mics because the SM7b is a lot warmer in tone where the SM58 sounds brighter but is more sensitive to airflow.

    • @iam-music
      @iam-music Před 2 lety +1

      Hehe...Id like to hear them without the foam/high ball and with an external pop shield at identical distance to capsule...level the playing field

  • @misobeno
    @misobeno Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for putting this together, this just made my choice easy for my first non-trash mic.

  • @HopplyYT
    @HopplyYT Před 3 lety +4

    Daredevil out here telling me about mics, i think i'm In :D

  • @xmontovanillix
    @xmontovanillix Před rokem +4

    I actually like the sound of the sm58 more, it just REALLY needs a good filter for plosives lol The sm7b kills it in that department.
    Both are amazing Mics!

  • @earlteigrob9211
    @earlteigrob9211 Před 3 lety +2

    Wow, thank you for this video!!! I was just about to get a sm7b to replace my 58 for studio recording but with the pop filter I just got I'm not sure it will really make any difference.

  • @andyjames6664
    @andyjames6664 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for your honesty and I think you could've just save me a lot of money. I have a Beta 58A and it always sounds great in the PA system. Looks like there's no need to even worry about getting an SM7B for recording.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety

      Cheers.
      If it sounds good on ya and it works for you...why bother upgrading until you can do so without sweating the money.
      Thanks for watching!!

  • @MichaelW.1980
    @MichaelW.1980 Před 4 lety +4

    Well, the missing pop filter on the SM58?made it kinda obvious. But... to be frank, the plosives were the only thing that struck me as a difference. Everything else was very subtle. It’s just... well you said it: The SM58 is just not sexy. Having to use a kinda big pop filter would be a hassle in front of a camera. So even tho I know about how similar those microphones are, I cam not Shure, which one to pick.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 4 lety

      Nyuk nyuk.
      Yeah...one of the problema with not monitoring the audio while shooting.
      Thanks for watching!!

    • @MichaelW.1980
      @MichaelW.1980 Před rokem

      After quite some time, I ended up deciding against both microphones. And the story might be interesting. So, i was interested in the kind of performance I can get out of a really cheap microphone. Back then I used the RØDE Procaster, so I had a decent microphone to compare it to. So I got myself the Behringer BA85A. And since I knew from other reviews, that The Procaster is actually superior in ambiance noise rejection, I was shocked, when I got the BA85A. It positively destroyed the Procaster and in extent the SM7B in ambiance noise rejection. It was easily 6dB quieter. Too bad it had RFI interference problems. But I decided to give the Shure Beta 58A a go, which had a similar pickup pattern. And this is what I stuck with. The SM7B would be a step back indeed. And for what? More bass response? Heck, the Beta 58A is barely low enough for my use. And on top of that, the SM7Bs self noise by design is higher. I love the looks of the SM7B, yes, but I won’t buy a microphone based on looks alone.

  • @JeremyLeech
    @JeremyLeech Před 3 lety +6

    Podcastage said it best. The SM7B has become the blue yeti. The mic everyone thinks they need. You don’t need to spend that much. There’s plenty of cheaper mics that will get you what you need

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety +1

      Its so true...
      There are some fantastic ways you can eq a mic to make it sound really good.

  • @miegraungaard2681
    @miegraungaard2681 Před 3 lety +1

    I have a SM58 with a popfiltre and use it for my first homestudio. I am really happy with it. I was thinking about upgrading to a SM7B but this video made me change my mind. Thank you :D

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Před 3 lety

      Cheers and thanks for watching.
      Check out the latest in this series...posted last week if you really want the push your sm58 to the limit

    • @miegraungaard2681
      @miegraungaard2681 Před 3 lety

      @@DarkCornerStudios I will! Thank you!

  • @mojavisanz597
    @mojavisanz597 Před 3 lety

    Great video comparison

  • @HellaJ
    @HellaJ Před 4 lety +3

    Sm7b for aggressive vocals all day.

  • @basarat
    @basarat Před 4 lety +6

    Other than the pop filter. Pretty close ❤️🌹

  • @koyamoro3595
    @koyamoro3595 Před 3 lety

    I see a lot of studio guys using the 58. I'm glad I found this video.

  • @ReeWebster
    @ReeWebster Před 4 lety +2

    Breathe 100% gave it away. I was thinking that, but I wasn't sure until you flashed the text lol.

  • @biggusdiccus6969
    @biggusdiccus6969 Před 2 lety

    Great video

  • @TRXST.ISSUES
    @TRXST.ISSUES Před 4 lety

    Great video 👌

  • @MrMoviePhoneEx
    @MrMoviePhoneEx Před 4 lety +1

    easy to hear the differences, but I've spent a fair amount of time researching mics lately. you can absolutely hear the highs and boosted feel of the sm58 in your demo whereas the 7b was darker and felt more natural to your voice. your condenser had a similar flavor of boost on it as well - very clear, but missing the lower end that makes the voice feel more natural.

  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the video. I can see why the SM7B is so popular - it's very smooth. The SM58 sounds rather harsh in comparison. I guess in hindsight, it might have been advisable to use a pop filter on the SM58 for the demo as the breath noise was very distracting. However, if I were recommending a first microphone for a home studio, it would be the SM57, as it will always be useful for something - guitar amp, snare, toms, etc.

  • @ProdbyTrehnt
    @ProdbyTrehnt Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks man!!!!

  • @RAndrewNeal
    @RAndrewNeal Před 2 lety +2

    I didn't know they were _THAT_ close. I could tell the difference because of the high-end drop-off of the SM7B, and the popping in the 58. But very close; throw in an EQ, and you could make them sound identical.

  • @gamrkidd
    @gamrkidd Před rokem

    So I’m in the process of transitioning into doing voiceover work as my career. I am completely new to this, as I’ve been a truck driver for about 5 years now. I’m getting all my gear ready and I was given a Shure SM58 mic for free from my brother In law. I’m hoping it works well for this! Thanks for this video it’s been helpful 👍🏼

  • @sadmanfuad5410
    @sadmanfuad5410 Před 3 lety +1

    thanks for the video

  • @christianrexmiroy5934
    @christianrexmiroy5934 Před 3 lety +1

    Great review! I can barely hear the difference between the two, which makes the SM58 a great purchase. Probably just include a pop filter which still costs waaayyy less than purchasing an SM7B.

  • @aidanbrydenmusic
    @aidanbrydenmusic Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for this super helpful video, I have a Beta57A that's great for vocals and acoustic guitar (gives a nice solid recording of acoustic guitar). I was thinking about getting an SM7B for vocals but having seen your video, I don't think there would be much of a difference so I'm saving my cash. Might try an SM86 condenser for a different sound.

  • @mikebottiaux5850
    @mikebottiaux5850 Před 2 lety

    Amazing, I had no idea.

  • @fretsnreeds
    @fretsnreeds Před 3 lety

    Good Video well done!

  • @davidjaikaran4132
    @davidjaikaran4132 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the info. Can you please share with us the Mike you are using in front of you, other than the two you are reviewing.

  • @ovationcelebrations
    @ovationcelebrations Před 2 lety

    For my years obvious difference was the popping effect between mic's even before you revealed which was which I knew right away from the popping which was the 58 BUT of course it's a very simple fix with a Pop Filter on the SM58 and I'm guessing you truly would not have been able to tell the difference! would love to have seen the comparison with a filter on the SM58 maybe more accurate comparison! I actually use the 58 with a cloud Lifter and pop filter on my recordings and saved a bunch of money, but Excellent revealing informative Video!!

  • @mikeywisniewski
    @mikeywisniewski Před 3 lety

    And the result of this video - you convinced me to get the Shure Beta 57a ...

  • @johnsawin8193
    @johnsawin8193 Před 2 lety

    You just saved me over 200 bucks! Thank you!!!